#2ndaryELA Archive

#2ndaryELA is a group of middle and high school English Language Arts teachers looking to share ideas and best practices. We chat every Tuesday night at 8 pm EST using #2ndaryELA. We'd love for you to join us!

Tuesday September 12, 2017
8:00 PM EDT

2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:00 PM EDT

Welcome to tonight’s chat! Please introduce yourself. Tell what & where you teach. Share your blog link if you have one. #2ndaryELA
participatechat Sep 12 @ 8:00 PM EDT

Participate in the upcoming #2ndaryELA by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/7JVSn6BeQg
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Hi! Josh from Blacksburg, VA. 9, 12, and 12 dual enrollment (Brit Lit survey). Excited for the chat tonight! #2ndaryela
literarymaven - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:01 PM EDT

I'm Brynn Allison, chat co-host. 9 yrs teaching HS English & reading interventions in Philly. Blog: https://t.co/cyx1WlfdS8 #2ndaryELA
nouvelle_ela Sep 12 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Intros: Hi, y’all! I’m Danielle and I teach 8/9 ELA. I blog at https://t.co/bPniF2r57U. Glad to be here! #2ndaryELA
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:02 PM EDT

Hey Everyone, Kristy, co-host. Just started my 11th year of teaching Grades 7 & 8. I blog at www. https://t.co/mGFSLRhfCF #2ndaryELA
tryingteacher Sep 12 @ 8:02 PM EDT

Hello! I am Michael and I teach 12th grade English in Rhode Island! #2ndaryela
tryingteacher Sep 12 @ 8:04 PM EDT

Intro: Hello, I am Michael and I have been teaching 11-12 ELA for 14 years. I blog at https://t.co/EICbFiTAgg #2ndaryela
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:05 PM EDT

8:05 Q1: What student work is graded in your classroom? What isn’t? #2ndaryELA
nouvelle_ela Sep 12 @ 8:05 PM EDT

A1: Ss receive grades for major projects, speeches, and tests. Drafts & HW are graded for completion. #2ndaryELA
mr_meighen Sep 12 @ 8:05 PM EDT

Checkin in from PA! I teach 9th, 11, and 12th grade English. Check out my first blog post here 👉🏽 https://t.co/AOB2ec2q7k #2ndaryELA
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:06 PM EDT

A1: Summative, of course. But also important to grade formative ones as well. Where's the balance between feedback & grades, tho? #2ndaryela
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:06 PM EDT

A1: Only "good" copies are formally graded. Lots of diagnostic and formative assessment to guide instruction. #2ndaryELA
mr_meighen Sep 12 @ 8:06 PM EDT

A1: I mainly assign grades to summative projects/assessments with a few other smaller, formative checks throughout. #2ndaryELA
mamawolfeto2 Sep 12 @ 8:06 PM EDT

Hi! Jennifer from CA - I teach 8/9 Ela and AVID and write @ http://jennifer https://t.co/IzrBV3vv3P #2ndaryELA
tryingteacher Sep 12 @ 8:07 PM EDT

A1 - I offer feedback and credit on all student work but high mark grades are on formal writing pieces and larger projects. #2ndaryela
mamawolfeto2 Sep 12 @ 8:08 PM EDT

Hi! Jennifer from CA - I teach 8/9 ELA and AVID and write at https://t.co/gPzZEqwbyq #2ndaryELA
eMeLClemente Sep 12 @ 8:08 PM EDT

#2ndaryELA intro: Megan Clement, teaching world lit (10th ELA) in North Carolina
mamawolfeto2 Sep 12 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1 We do lots of pRactice that may only be graded for completion- assessment is graded after practice #2ndaryELA
eMeLClemente Sep 12 @ 8:09 PM EDT

#2ndaryELA A1: I'm open to grade anything but ONLY if it evaluates or demonstrates content knowledge or skill. No work ethic grades.
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:10 PM EDT

8:10 Q2: How do you hold students accountable for implementing feedback? Do students do any revisions/reflections after grading? #2ndaryELA
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nouvelle_ela Sep 12 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A2: Honestly, I'm still working on implementing more revision opportunities in my classroom. Here to learn! #2ndaryELA
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A2: Self-assessment after projs always happens. It's a graded assignment. As far as revisions, I highly encourage Ss to do so. #2ndaryela
MrsMcLoudRI Sep 12 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1: 9th and 10th grade ELA in Providence ! #2ndaryELA
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A2: When I provide feedback on rough drafts I look through the good copy to ensure corrections have been made. #2ndaryELA
mamawolfeto2 Sep 12 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A2 I give minimal feedback on paper - use tech tools or ask kids to meet. They CAN rewrite for a new grade-only 10% usually do #2ndaryela
eMeLClemente Sep 12 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#2ndaryELA A2: A lot of revision/editing in my class comes before anything is graded, so the grade reflects implementation of suggestions
MrsMcLoudRI Sep 12 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A2: Homework, most classwork, essays. #2ndaryELA
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:12 PM EDT

A2: I also look to see if feedback has been utilized. Overall, I want to see growth over the unit. #2ndaryELA
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:12 PM EDT

Google Docs makes providing feedback and revision easy! #2ndaryela @GoogleForEdu
In reply to @nouvelle_ela, @GoogleForEdu
tryingteacher Sep 12 @ 8:13 PM EDT

On our senior paper, we grade he drafts together and they help me determine their grade. They take ownership of their own effort! #2ndaryela
MrsMcLoudRI Sep 12 @ 8:13 PM EDT

A3: SS revise after large essays. I hold them accountable by regrading all revisions. #2ndaryELA
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:14 PM EDT

We discuss the importance of learning from mistakes. Anything to make the benefits of revision palpable! #2ndaryela
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:15 PM EDT

Q3: Schools are moving towards standard based grading. Thoughts? Experiences? #2ndaryela
GailaSanders Sep 12 @ 8:16 PM EDT

A2: grade final drafts but clear expectations for the target skill 🎯 that includes a lesson, peer editing, and feedback first! #2ndaryELA
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:16 PM EDT

A3: Standard-based grading encourages student growth & success. Writing instruction lends itself to it w focus on revision #2ndaryela
mr_meighen Sep 12 @ 8:17 PM EDT

A3: Like the idea, but the amount of work involved on the grading side seems like a drawback...dont want focus to shift to grades #2ndaryELA
eMeLClemente Sep 12 @ 8:17 PM EDT

#2ndaryELA I'm all about standards-based grading (& rubrics)! Ss should clearly know & understand assessment criteria to demonstrate it.
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:17 PM EDT

A3: We have been using success criteria and rubrics almost my entire teaching career. We are not encouraged to mark using points. #2ndaryELA
GailaSanders Sep 12 @ 8:17 PM EDT

A3: standards based is more clear & effective, set goals know what you're working towards, and COMMUNICATE w/examples @FreshGrade #2ndaryELA
mr_meighen Sep 12 @ 8:19 PM EDT

I use rubrics a ton because I think they help to make grading less subjective. #2ndaryELA
In reply to @2peasandadog
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:20 PM EDT

Q4: Some schools are moving toward students grading themselves. Thoughts? Experiences? #2ndaryELA
nouvelle_ela Sep 12 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A4: I have Ss self grade on small-group pres. and portfolios. They're much more critical than I am! #2ndaryELA https://t.co/bajxCXXcSF
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A4: Here is an example of having students self-assess https://t.co/IKmJ5K3mtj #2ndaryELA
tryingteacher Sep 12 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A3 My district has built its own standards based rubrics that we have all had he opportunity to influence and shape. Works well! #2ndaryela
JoriKrulder Sep 12 @ 8:20 PM EDT

Hello #2ndaryela! Sorry to be missing a chat with you brilliant people, but I look forward to looking back over your posts!
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A4 Ss should always reflect on their learning. Self-assessment empowers Ss. But T input shouldn't be erased. Trust professionals! #2ndaryela
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A4: Self-assessment is always encouraged, but students cannot just select their own grades. #2ndaryELA
mr_meighen Sep 12 @ 8:22 PM EDT

A4: We've implemented something similar as a part of our formal teacher observation. It'd be cool to score Ss and compare w/ them #2ndaryELA
GailaSanders Sep 12 @ 8:22 PM EDT

A4: Self grading leads to OWNERSHIP and EMPOWERMENT, set guidelines, model, and support w/rubrics & examples 👩‍⚖️👨‍⚖️ #2ndaryELA
tryingteacher Sep 12 @ 8:23 PM EDT

A4 I have involved Ss in the grading process & giving that responsibility &I trust empowers them to rise to their own standards #2ndaryela
eMeLClemente Sep 12 @ 8:24 PM EDT

#2ndaryELA A4 Def value Ss self-assess, but not necessarily as final grade. Rubrics before completing work offer opp for desired grade.
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:25 PM EDT

Q5: What tricks have you learned to help manage the marking load? #2ndaryELA
nouvelle_ela Sep 12 @ 8:25 PM EDT

A5: Rubrics are a life saver! I use them for *everything*! Here are other tricks I've learned. https://t.co/s9zoHBWdmr #2ndaryELA
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:25 PM EDT

A5: I have written several blog posts about reducing the marking load. https://t.co/DJZIoN9PUO #2ndaryELA
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:26 PM EDT

A5: Not everything needs to be graded. Conferences allow for quick, focused feedback. Sometimes when Ss work, you also work. #2ndaryela
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:26 PM EDT

A5: Gradebook hacks https://t.co/TlWGfNBCGK #2ndaryELA
mr_meighen Sep 12 @ 8:26 PM EDT

Agreed! Ts input is still powerful, too. I think most of the value would come from the conversation between teacher and student. #2ndaryELA
In reply to @jthompedu
mamawolfeto2 Sep 12 @ 8:26 PM EDT

A4 I love having Ss reflections and eval. Usually, I agree with their assessments! #2ndaryela
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:26 PM EDT

A5: I use this method for formative assessments. https://t.co/5gqu8FLrMg #2ndaryELA
tryingteacher Sep 12 @ 8:27 PM EDT

A5 staying at a school an extra hour daily and 1 night a week at Panera with a salad, sandwich, lemonade, and a stack of work! #2ndaryela
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:30 PM EDT

Thanks for chatting with us tonight. Here’s a sneak peek at next week’s chat #2ndaryELA
GailaSanders Sep 12 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A5: Conf helps familiar w/work, req feedback & reflection helps grade on growth, @FreshGrade saves taking home huge paper stacks #2ndaryELA
2peasandadog - Moderator Sep 12 @ 8:31 PM EDT

And don't forget #2ndaryELA You can join us on FB to continue the conversation all week long https://t.co/5Vm1htM31S
mamawolfeto2 Sep 12 @ 8:31 PM EDT

A5 Only assign what I can assess within 1 wk. Digital gradebooks. Hyperdocs to package learning & make it easy to assess as one. #2ndaryela
In reply to @2peasandadog
jthompedu Sep 12 @ 8:36 PM EDT

Thank you for an awesome #2ndaryela chat tonight!
mamawolfeto2 Sep 12 @ 8:40 PM EDT

I use hyperdocs to 'package' or contain/share/illustrate the learning objectives - #2ndaryela
In reply to @2peasandadog