#hogfbchat Archive
Monday June 5, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Coaches it's time for the Monday Night
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coachruffbc
Jun 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Jacob Ruff co OL Coach Brookfield Central, Brookfield, WI.
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mt_stjohn
Jun 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Todd St. John OL coach Nacaogdoches HS.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
We are the
#hogfbchat
! The best hour on twitter OL coaches from all over the world collaborating with other OL Coaches!
Warhogs56
Jun 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Kyle Murphy, HB, CA. Love being an OL all day, everyday.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
If this is your first time on
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We encourage you to get involved! Reading through is great, but answering is so much better!
Coach_Allison43
Jun 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Mike Allison TE's Alma College
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Drillstack
Jun 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
It feels like its been forever! Finally it's back
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CoachCrabel
Jun 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Ryan Crabel Millikin University - Decatur, IL Played OL at Coe College I have coached DB's and WR's so far in my career
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
We will follow a Q&A format...the more you answer, the more you engage others, the more you get out of
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AugieCoachBEAR
Jun 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Matthew "Bear" Bacoulis Offensive line coach @ THE Augustana University Sioux Falls, South Dakota
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CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Clete Knippa, Denver City high school, Denver City Texas
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Elmand
Jun 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Derrick Elman, Iowa Falls-Alden HS. Oline coach
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CoachMillerOL
Jun 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
David Miller OL/Run Game Coordinator/S&C at St. James School Hagerstown, MD!
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coachmac_
Jun 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Cody McDaniel Beggs OK, OC & O-Line
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Please be sure to use the
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in all interaction, also please RT all questions to reach all corners of the twitterverse!
dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
See ya in 2:00
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CoachSmithKHS
Jun 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Matt Smith, Kaneland HS, IL, RB/OL/DL, other stuff
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
The
#hogfbchat
is a great way to expand your Professional Learning Network! Be sure to follow your fellow coaches!
CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Clete Knippa, Denver City high school, Denver City,Texas
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CoachMckieJr
Jun 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
We are live coaches:
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Let's talk Hal Mumme's Mesh Concept
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CoachBjelke
Jun 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Dave Bjelke, Tampa, FL - TE coach Hillsborough HS
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Just think of
#hogfbchat
as your Monday Night clinic session!
CoachLisaLimper
Jun 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Lisa Limper, free agent/ QB coach, Nashville TN
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#goPreds
#PenguinsSuck
fundraisercards
Jun 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@CoachBDud
Thanks for the follow!
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wiglaf75
Jun 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Derek Tuttle, OL/Co-OC, Andover Central HS, Andover, KS
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CoachBlacha
Jun 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Aloha amigos (culturally diverse) Phillip Blacha OL
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Let's get going with check-ins...follow some coaches and follow back to keep growing our Network! Bring your gif game!
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CoachMBounds
Jun 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Matthew Bounds OC/OL Atholton HS Columbia MD. Ready to get back at it.
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DraftOrtiz
Jun 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Robert Ortiz, OL coach Mount Miguel HS in sunny San Diego, CA! Party doesn't start til I step in
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DHonerlaw
Jun 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@CoachDingus
Dave Honerlaw O-line coach, Cincinnati Sycamore Aviators
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ds1214
Jun 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Del Scales. OL coach at Marcus HS, TX
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Robert Stough. Offensive Line. Kearney High School. Kearney, Missouri.
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Evening gents. We've missed you so much in our vacation sabbatical. Tony Shiffman. CoHost. Fort Madison HC.
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OLCoachBWill
Jun 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Bryan Williams OL South Houston HS
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Cody Gardner Park City, UT DC/LB/RB Get back coach done good.
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Drillstack
Jun 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Coaches who want to set up a lineman challenge. Drillstack can do that for you.
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Coach Sabo! Owner/operator of the best damn line company in IL!
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#FISTfootball
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Jun 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
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thecoachvogt
Jun 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Phil. Palm Bay high. Fl.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Jack Dingus, Defensive Coordinator, Crooked Oak HS, Oklahoma City, OK! Co-Host and Co-Founder of the
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FearTheWing
Jun 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Jeremy Haymore Offensive Coordinator Staunton River High School Moneta, VA
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CoachDobbinsSE
Jun 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
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HC/DC at Southeast High School Wichita, KS
LCGrizzlyFB
Jun 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Sean Price, HC, Labette County Kansas
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Sorry I missed you guys last week.
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11across
Jun 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Scott McLane, HC, Belmont HS Sentinels, DTLA, CA
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CoryRuhlen
Jun 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Cory Ruhlen, Hardin Northern High School, Ohio. I do not coach OL but am here to interact and collaborate.
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CoachRmcD60
Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Ryan Mcdonald OL Mooresville IN
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CoachBradyWalz
Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
B Walz, Ball Coach, Ankeny HS, Ankeny, Heaven
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@BallCoachAca
@TAttackAcademy
Coach_Marrs
Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
DJ Marrs. HC Quitman, Arkansas
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
My thoughts when I see the gif game tonight
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Kevin Loadman, OL Coach for the
@DelawarePacers
in Delaware, OH. SOMEWHAT paying attention to the hockey game tonight
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CoachLA73
Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Arthur Ray Owner/Head Trainer for my O-Line training Academy, Varsity OL coach at De La Salle(Chicago) happy to be on board
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DraftOrtiz
Jun 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Figured I'd try this weird "baseball" stuff out.
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Coach_Kav
Jun 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
John Kavanaugh, Offensive Coordinator and AD at North Caddo High in Vivian, La
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CoachLemn
Jun 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Scott Lemn - OL Bridgewater College (VA)
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CaddytotheLama
Jun 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@BigDuke50
hey Duke, have you ever participated in the
#hogfbchat
that happens on Monday nights?
CoachH_Evans
Jun 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Hunter Evans. WR Coach. Creekside High School. Jacksonville, FL
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mt_stjohn
Jun 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
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mt_stjohn
Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I got started early so I'll try again
CoachRmcD60
Jun 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
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CoachHood82
Jun 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Hugh Hood; OL Coach at West Ashley HS (SC)
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Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Oliver Monaghan, OL, Northumbria University, England
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CoachCliman
Jun 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
What today's HSer looks like on equipment handout day
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@MottCoach
the
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is on
Coach_Ram8
Jun 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
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CoryRuhlen
Jun 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
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In reply to @FISTFootball
RyanKeeton1
Jun 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Ryan Keeton HC, Nanih Waiya, MS
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I have my Jamocha SHAKE from
@Arbys
and let's get the
#hogfbchat
going! Question 1 is coming up!
Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
It's 02:14 AM. I should be asleep. I just finished watching Boise State v Oklohoma 2007 Fiesta Bowl instead
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Wow...gonna have a skinny latte next week Jack?
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:-)
CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I have my Jamocha SHAKE from
@Arbys
and let's get the
#hogfbchat
going! Question 1 is coming up!
Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I teach my high school Oline to only block at 60% in games because we don't want anyone getting hurt out there
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CoachColeJr
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Anthony Cole OC Grass Lake High School in Michigan. Watching hockey, talkin ball.
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
60% of the time it works every time?
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In reply to @Jackuars
HSSocialMedia
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Join HS and College Coaches from 3 countries and 24 states on
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#Football
Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Oliver Monaghan, OL, Northumbria University, England
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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coach_whitaker
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Brenton Whitaker OC/OL Ranchview HS, Irving, TX
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CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
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Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
technique and footwork ain't important for young linemen to learn, i just get them to lift as much weights as they can, it works
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coachruffbc
Jun 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: Don't run either
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CoachMBounds
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
No. When we did run it it was just one concept. Don't run it anymore.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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CoachRmcD60
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1 OZ stretch WZ bang bend Bounce
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CoachCliman
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1 we ran inside zone and buck last year. Looking to implement stretch/wide zone this year. To me...its the same play.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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CoachDobbinsSE
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: to me, Zone is Zone, when you try to differentiate the two I think you can confuse not just the athletes but your staff
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
That doesn't even make sense. But I like it!
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In reply to @dhhs_oline, @Jackuars
CoachSmithKHS
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: never have run "wide zone" but for our purposes I would say no
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
a1: nope. Wouldn't change anything for the line or the back
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RecruitLook_sm
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
HSSocialMedia : Join HS and College Coaches from 3 countries and 24 states on
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Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Oliver Monaghan, OL, Northumbria University, England
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RecruitLook_sm
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
HSSocialMedia : RT CoachDingus: Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Coach Welcome from the U.K. Isn't it 2am there?!?
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In reply to @Moggy0303
Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
moving a player from left tackle to center is the easiest position swap in football, don't let anyone tell you otherwise
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CoachHood82
Jun 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: Zone talk...
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thecoachvogt
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Some people call OZ a true full reach get to edge. My OZ is the Gibbs widezone! Gods way
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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Coach_Ram8
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: We've only differentiated between OZ and a toss zone outside. Reach and run on the toss. Usual OZ steps on OZ.
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In reply to @CoachDingus
CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: have differentiated between it but not at the same school. One place it was like sweep, the other like stretch
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DraftOrtiz
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: Nope, although we rarely run OZ
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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CoachColeJr
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1 No. Outside is wide, wide is outside. Finkel is Einhorn, Einhorn is Finkel.
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CoachWellman
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Tyler Wellman Co-OC/Oline Coach at Lakeland University
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Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
the best oline guys are nice and passive with their blocking, i want nice mannerly guys out there, not thugs!
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Elmand
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: we ran both with the same scheme upfront
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chrisvIQtory
Jun 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Little late to the party! Chris Haddad Bellingham High School- Bellingham MA
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#LetsGooooo
Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
It is indeed! I stumbled across the chat a few weeks ago avoiding uni work. This week I've stayed up to learn!
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In reply to @CoachDingus
DHonerlaw
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
We do differentiate between the two.
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In reply to @CoachDingus
FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: definitely. Different footwork. Our OZ changes the aiming point of the back, but not footwork. WZ changes the footwork of OL.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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mt_stjohn
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I've always used stretch and OZ interchangeably.
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
jpoth744
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Jarry Poth ball coach in Texas. Little wet but I'm ready!
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AugieCoachBEAR
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: We run a Pin Pull Scheme and complement it with a wide zone..
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CoachSmithKHS
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1 contd but we used to call our sweep play "OZ"...now our Outside zone is actually outside zone
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RyanKeeton1
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: Different concepts. But we don't run wide zone.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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coach_whitaker
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: What we call it Outside Zone but it's more of the Wide Zone idea.
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wiglaf75
Jun 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: No. Listening/reading.
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coach_schmitty
Jun 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Joe Schmitt HFC Bureau Valley Storm
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#BoltUp
CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1: Our Zone is Outside Zone. We are on a 45° track. I do like
@coachcodutti
Widezone concept.
#HogFBChat
CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
We are glad you are here!
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In reply to @Moggy0303
Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
3 rules for my oline: don't block too hard, be respectful always and don't play through the whistle EVER
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CoachBlacha
Jun 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1: we don't. It's the same for us ultimately. Difference really is the kid running the ball. They go their own way
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CoachLemn
Jun 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1. Don't change teaching for OL but teach TB how edge could change depending on # of blockers
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
#HogFBChat
jpoth744
Jun 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1: Yes. One is pin pull sweep other is true OZ with post.
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Mr_Stadem
Jun 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1- WZ with tags for different blocking angles, and P/P.
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coach_remer
Jun 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1: Full on Gibbs Wide zone Cult member here. I drank all the Kool-aid fellas
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1) No.
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CoachWellman
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1 con) Not sure abt Wide zone OZ the aiming point is the outside leg of the TE/H. Mid zone for us aiming point is tackle's leg.
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fundraisercards
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Some new coaches on here, spreading
#hogfbchat
worldwide!
CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1) Depends. Been around both. Played in a system that utilized a stretch/outside zone play. Now coach a Wide Zone/Gibbs style.
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thecoachvogt
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Me too!!! Gibbs all the way! I'm in the cult too.
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coach_remer
Jun 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1: Full on Gibbs Wide zone Cult member here. I drank all the Kool-aid fellas
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Coach_Marrs
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1)yes but we run it as outside zone and middle zone. Different footwork and technique
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MyerCoach
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Adam Myer, new position as OL coach in Lansing, KS. I'm moving home from TX to KC!!
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RyanKeeton1
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1: outside zone is stretch for us, reach everyone and try to get outside. WZ is Gibbs play & don't call it OZ around him!!!
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
OZ is a 45° step. Aiming point of RB is inside leg of PST. WZ changes to more of a reach and aiming point is outside leg of PST.
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In reply to @Coach_Ram8
Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
sometimes i tell my line to give up on plays early to give the opposition a chance to make some plays , keep the game fun
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CoryRuhlen
Jun 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
rip to run on second step by driving back shoulder through defender? Providing a cutoff if needed.
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In reply to @CoachDingus, @coachcodutti
CoachWellman
Jun 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A1: all the different zones are predicated on the back's aiming point. Technique and scheme for Oline must match the backs path.
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LCGrizzlyFB
Jun 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A1) WZ and stretch are two different plays for us.
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Coach_Allison43
Jun 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A1- we'll use pin pull on a wider track and our OZ aiming point is 2 yards outside the TE
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q2 coming up
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I try and follow all the coaches that actively participate in the chat. If I miss you, I will 100% follow back.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Got to love fake twitter trolls!!!
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Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
sometimes i tell my line to give up on plays early to give the opposition a chance to make some plays , keep the game fun
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A1) cont…Regardless of what you call it, ZERO penetration & take care of LVL1 FIRST are rules to live (and die) by.
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1) Depends. Been around both. Played in a system that utilized a stretch/outside zone play. Now coach a Wide Zone/Gibbs style.
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CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
So how about power??
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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rope61
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Why do so many of u guys have both wz and oz??? Do they do the same thing to d??
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
How about it? Hahaha
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In reply to @CoachKnippa
CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
In a Zone Scheme? Soooo…Power Read?? 😈😈😈
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CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
So how about power??
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CoachSmithKHS
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: for me, the way I want to run it, I want the 0/1/shade player moved out...I'd like my RB to read that block
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
a2: all vital blocks, but any chance for a dbl team and/or vertical movement is an opportunity for success
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mt_stjohn
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
According to that I've never run OZ and have run wide zone for years.
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In reply to @FISTFootball, @Coach_Ram8
LCGrizzlyFB
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2) I feel the backside dbl team on 1 tech for us. Want movement with eyes to LB!
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RecruitLook_sm
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
HSSocialMedia : RT CoachShiffman: Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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CoachCliman
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2 clearing out both A gaps. Depends on the front, but the G-C-G blocks are crucial
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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coachjadamus15
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: Combination blocks at the POA.
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
The combo up to Mike, IMO. If we don't get a good combo and color flashes we are screwed. Messes everything up and RB cuts.
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In reply to @CoachShiffman
CoryRuhlen
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
gap responsibility is a concern though. need to attack play side armpit with the inside hand first, then work to second level.
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In reply to @CoachDingus, @coachcodutti
wiglaf75
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: BS guard. His block dictates whether or not RB has more than one option, that is, if cutback is possible.
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DHonerlaw
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q2: securing playside down defender and near backer with guard and tackle.
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In reply to @CoachShiffman
thecoachvogt
Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Doesn't matter what zone or play for that matter! Most important is the backside cut off, on any play!
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
#Hogfbchat
CoachRmcD60
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 BS G has to handle a 1 or 3
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coachmac_
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 Got to get backside A Gap cutoff!
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2: Combo with vertical movement. Get that shade dug out.
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2: we prefer to run it to the 1-tech, so that double team to PSILB is HUGE
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Coach_Ram8
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2: The backside A gap and the mike are two of the most important blocks in my opinion on IZ. Can't cutback without it.
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In reply to @CoachShiffman
CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Or any kind of read game out of the power or GT
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In reply to @CoachStough
Chisox48
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Rule Britannia!
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In reply to @Moggy0303
Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 Centre guard duo on a playside 1 if there is, if not grab your big guy balls and move individuals, hope back reads
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CoachBjelke
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A1: We do not differentiate blocking rules between Outside or Wide zone
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I agree with this statement!
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In reply to @thecoachvogt
CoachColeJr
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 most vital block for IZ is displacement of the A gap defender. Especially if he is backside. Opens up big time cut back ops.
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Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 in short - playside guys
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Elmand
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
The 1 and 3 to the Mike backer. 1 can cut the oline in half, and 3 can force an early inside cut straight to the Mike backer.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2)Tough 1. BS cut is huge, love to get a big vertical double on the A gap defender....I guess clean backside,
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wsentilles
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2: The NG or the combo to the MLB. RB can use vision to bounce or bend but you need to take care of the middle.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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CoachLA73
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
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CoachLA73
Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Maximizing double teams is a key coaching point my most vital block is the combo (G,T) to the backside LB if u dnt get him he can disrupt
In reply to @CoachShiffman
Chisox48
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
That makes 3 countries!
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In reply to @Moggy0303
DraftOrtiz
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2: Playside shade to backer. Gotta have that down.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I saw those. My favorite RPO
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In reply to @coach_remer, @FearTheWing
CoachWellman
Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: The backside double team. You're back makes the frontside right. It has to be there so he trusts his aiming point/escape
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DHonerlaw
Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Absolutely right...they all matter. Can't have any penetration.
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In reply to @Warhogs56
CoachMBounds
Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
The Zone doubles at POA. Gotta get those guys outta there and move them to 2nd level.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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coach_whitaker
Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: the combo on the NG. Can't leave too early for LB or there is no play.
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thecoachvogt
Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Yep. If D is cut off...there is no D
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In reply to @CoachDingus
dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I tell my OL they MUST dominate the 1st level block, and if they do the back could fall down and get 3-4 yards behind it
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FearTheWing
Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A1:
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RyanKeeton1
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2: combo on the 1/2i
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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Tpeck2
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#HogFBChat
Tom Peck, unattached STC/DBs/WRs Just a skinny guy, tryin to act cool...
FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Honestly, same here. I never heard the differentiation until this year. Then I saw
@au_spartanfootball
talk about it!
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In reply to @mt_stjohn, @Coach_Ram8
CoachLemn
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2. The BS A Gap block. TB can see what is in his face but when he cuts back he's counting on that being secure.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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Jackuars
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
each to their own!
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In reply to @CoachDingus
coachmac_
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2 If you get BS A Gap cutoff your PS combos just have to match or widen!
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Coach_Marrs
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2) our backside fold on DT. It secures the cutback
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Likewise.
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In reply to @CoachKnippa
CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Now we gotta deal with the dang Bachelorette too! What the heck fire
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Tpeck2
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#HogFBChat
A1) We do not differentiate between OZ and WZ... but we ran mostly IZ, sooooo...
MyerCoach
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A2: haven't run a ton of Zone in Wing T, but as other said, vertical movement on combos. Make sure DL taken care of 1st
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wsentilles
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A1: yes, two different plays and two different blocking schemes.
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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Tpeck2
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#HogFBChat
A2) That BSG/C getting to the MoD-LB... got to have the ability to cut back on that
Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A2 saw this somewhere a few months ago. 3F's. Fat F**ks First (sorry DLine guys) but I liked it for inside zone
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A2) OC/BS OG COMBO! Press PS OG/Bgap for potential cutback thru the BS A. No movement on combo + free birds @ LVL2 KILLS the pla.
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CoachBradyWalz
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A2: Inside Zone begins and ends IMO with your ability to move the NT or A gap player. If not, running uphill.
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@BallCoachAca
CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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mt_stjohn
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
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mt_stjohn
Jun 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A2:. Making sure they don't come off combos too quickly. "First level first"!
In reply to @CoachShiffman
OLCoachBWill
Jun 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A2: BS is huge for us....work it a ton in 1/2 line
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coachcalpowell
Jun 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A2: The 1st playside down lineman block is key. Can keep the LB from filling the hole
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In reply to @CoachShiffman
CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A2: ran a lot my first 2 years coaching. Get great movement on the combos and keep square to come off on backer
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q3 is coming up Sponsored by Strickland Propane "Taste the meat, not the heat"
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CoachBlacha
Jun 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A2: BS A gap but also BS B up to that LB to wash them down. Doesn't matter if QB doesn't do play fake though
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coach_remer
Jun 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A2: the combo to backer by the center and ps guard IMO.
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CoachScoretuddy
Jun 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q1) used to coach in one back Pro Style. OZ was JFR blocking backs job was to get outside. Mid zone was Gibbs shanahan zone
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CoachSpera
Jun 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Robert Spera Ol at creekside high school, Jacksonville Fl
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wsentilles
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Wayne Sentilles OL Destrehan High School, Destrehan LA. Sorry I'm late but the
@astros
are on.
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CoryRuhlen
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A2) in my opinion, double team combo onto washing out middle linebacker.
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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CoachScoretuddy
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q1) mid zone I taught big toe steps to DL pinky toe and hook or wash out. Backside always cut
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CoachSmithKHS
Jun 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3: leave end alone, but maybe read a backside overhang for an easy replace-slant...
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RecruitLook_sm
Jun 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
HSSocialMedia : RT CoachDingus: Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
a3: If we used it, would read the backside end. Get him crashing down and pull the next time he does
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3: depends on how athletic our QB is. If he can run heck yes, if he can't then just tag an RPO backside and hinge with BST
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CoachLA73
Jun 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
We read him and run inside zone to death till he bites then hit him with the jet sweep! Works everytime!
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In reply to @CoachDingus
FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: we have a few different variations. But we usually read the backside end. Sometimes we arc release to BSB to pull DE outside.
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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coachmac_
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3 We do both but usually lock when we run an RPO.
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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CoachBjelke
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A2: My answer, couldn't say it any better
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Elmand
Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
The 1 and 3 to the Mike backer. 1 can cut the oline in half, and 3 can force an early inside cut straight to the Mike backer.
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thecoachvogt
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
We are under the center, gods way... end chases we run naked..
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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Coach_Ram8
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: We prefer to read the backside and pull of necessary. Allows one extra big body to get a hat on a hat.
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In reply to @CoachDingus
Coach_Marrs
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3)BSG and BST lock, read BSLB with Replace route behind him
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: We always read the backside. We send the BST to the Backer or to his inside Gap.
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CoachLA73
Jun 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
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CoachLA73
Jun 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Exactly that's a great point if u tell ur line to focus on double teams and the down linemen ur guaranteeing 3-4 yards a pop on inside zone!
In reply to @mt_stjohn
CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3) We seal w/ an H-back type or a TE in off. OT sifts thru B. Allows for insertion of read game whenever we have the personnel.
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CoachWellman
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3- we are only in 10 personnel so someone is getting read.
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Mr_Stadem
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3- We will do both and read BS 2nd level as well.
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CoachGemig
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Leave the BS unblocked and read the him. Also have a pitch/bubble phase on the backside
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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Elmand
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3: we always leave the BS end, whether it's a read in gun, or out or pro.
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CoachMBounds
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I find that both can be effective but I prefer to lock w/ BST and read 2nd level. Easier to hit BS routes when reading 2nd level
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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coachjadamus15
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3. Read, but an occasional lock and change the read backside.
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LCGrizzlyFB
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3) We RPO so we block with our BST and don't climb.
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jpoth744
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3:Sure will! If he's a passer we will concentrate on RPO more.
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CoachScoretuddy
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q2) gotta secure double teams up front. Tell my guys you can't leave your buddy in bad position. And always BE PHYSICAL
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chrisvIQtory
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Typically will read him or backside linebacker with an RPO tagged to it. Putting the whole backside in conflict
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CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
We would read the BSDE, whatever he does he is wrong
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CoachSmithKHS
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3 cont'd: we would lock on IZ and read a BSLB though...don't want to run QB if we don't have to...
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
The vertical movement you get on the first level is important, I agree Coach!
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In reply to @CoachLA73
CoachRmcD60
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3 both it depends on what weird wrinkle we want to run to mess with the D
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coach_whitaker
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3: Always have a running threat at QB so will absolutely read the backside or give a boot fake to hold him.
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CoachSpera
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q3: Read or leave him unblocked! Has to be a real special dude to chase down OZ. Key is for QB to carry out fake to keep honest!
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3) Don't think there is add value in the backside, may be value in reading frontside, conflicting an end or OLB or nosey Safety
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Coach_Allison43
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
We will read backside routes presnap, backside OL are zone blocking
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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CoachColeJr
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3 Have done both. Gap/hinge with BST and RPO the BSLB. Have also read the DE to get an extra hat to POA. I like them both.
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AugieCoachBEAR
Jun 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A2: We run our IZ at the Nose. My crew MUST get the three wall'd off or driven vertical to WLB to allow for the backsideA Gap CB.
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CoachCliman
Jun 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3 we read everything. IZ, buck, power. So if we ran wide zone, we would read that
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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CoachLemn
Jun 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3. If it's a big enough play for u have a way to read all. BSLB BSDE BSDT
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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CoachBlacha
Jun 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3: read and lock depending on RPO. Can lock and read LB for quick slant or give
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OLCoachBWill
Jun 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A#: we read BS, QB is a weapon. BST inside gap to backer
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AugieCoachBEAR
Jun 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A2 Cont:RB really press the Playside B & gets vertical to daylight.RB owes us 4 yards. We preach "See grass, hit the Gas"
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DHonerlaw
Jun 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3: Wide zone we don't, we're getting to the edge. OZ, we will Read backside and QB keep when he pursues.
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In reply to @CoachDingus
wsentilles
Jun 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3: Both... depends on if there is an RPO tagged or not. Slant and post are favorite tags.
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Thinking the same thing. Most read game on the BS I've been involved with was on Inside/Tight Zone. Outside/Wide was always PS.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3) Don't think there is add value in the backside, may be value in reading frontside, conflicting an end or OLB or nosey Safety
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Tpeck2
Jun 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
#HogFBChat
A3) I read everything. Free yards with an ATH or Hoss QB. Or a good crack opp with my H on a stud DE
CoachWalkerS
Jun 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
On an outside run play, we read PST. We don't block BST on a sweep/OZ
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In reply to @CoachDingus
Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3 no BS read as we mainly use OZ with a jet from H which sets up other stuff if the end dives down anyway. BST climbs to backer
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AugieCoachBEAR
Jun 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3:Ton of Saf insert. So we account for the plus player. gun Wk, we read. If we are in pistol we control BSDE w/ Q Boot
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Agreed. If they crash end and replace with BSLB, you could arc release to keep them both honest (if no RPO).
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In reply to @OLCoachBWill
Warhogs56
Jun 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3) con't: Midline is also a great change up to reading the DE or LB. Try and find the LEAST athletic DL & make him choose.
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CoachKnippa
Jun 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
You can thank my dad, he was an old O-Line coach
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In reply to @jpoth744
coach_remer
Jun 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: I like doing both of you have a semi mobile QB. I'm partial to a backside cut block though
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wiglaf75
Jun 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: Backside DE? Read him if QB can run. If trying to fly, then forget him--he won't catch your fly guy, unless he's speed-less.
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q4 on its way!
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coachbullus
Jun 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
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A3: Depends on front RPO. have locked on BST and read BSLB for RPO, have also had BST block pay gap player against 3-3 stack.
CoachScoretuddy
Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q3) no read, true stretch backfield action from under center ace sets. I used lots of naked to control BS end.
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CoachHansen05
Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
We run Jet and OV. Blocking is different for us for sure. Jet is reach to PS. OV is zone away.
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In reply to @CoachShiffman, @rope61
CoachB____
Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A3) reading backside keeps him honest if he is in chase mode. Also helps with read for Q Power tag
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachWellman
Jun 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4. Talk to
@CoachDrewBurton
. He uses those guys more than me
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4: we've run them as a lead blocker, we'll run solid and cross him to BSDE with BST going up to backer. There's a lot
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachSmithKHS
Jun 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4: In a perfect world, he would be involved with 1) Split Zone (so we don't have to lock) and then 2) Play Action Pass to flat
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LCGrizzlyFB
Jun 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4) Blocks backside in our "Cut", or runs "Slice" to outside shoulder of DE and climbs to 1st threat inside.
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Coach_Ram8
Jun 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4: Don't use one much. But have used them to lead and sometimes "spike" block on the backside to help with cutback.
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In reply to @CoachShiffman
Coach_Marrs
Jun 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4)crosses formation and leaks out for backside RPO. We will use tags to kick DE, Wham a DT, or lead him to PSLB in ISO look
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Elmand
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
When backside, and block with zone or can motion to lead. When playside, can zone step or fold block.
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CoachColeJr
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4 We like to bring him across and block backside more often than lead him. Split flow messes with LBs which makes me smile.
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CoachWalkerS
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Mutliple ways. F can kick out back side end, lead on play side, or run a flat, release or seam on a RPO tag.
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In reply to @CoachShiffman
Warhogs56
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4) I have not had the good fortune to play with an H that can do what I want, but, I'd use the H for split zone or as a lead.
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CoachShiffman
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4: Ours is to lead block or to kick.
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GTCoach_Flores
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4: leading or part of the RPO aspect. Yea buddy!
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coachcodutti
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
We rarely read DE on wide zone. We don't block him either. We hold him with rpo and QB naked threat. If we want to throw we lock
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CoachDingus
- Moderator
Jun 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3: Will you read backside on your Outside/Wide Zone or lock on with BST?
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
a4: good question...and not one I have an answer too. Would depend on what the D brings. Many possibles depending on their look
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coachbullus
Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4: Have had him block (Slice) BS read player if blowing up mesh or bluff and go to BSLB. Sets up PA off IZ to flat
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4) F/H/sniffer? No thanks.
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Tpeck2
Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
#HogFBChat
A4) Whatever I want him to do... I will even use a tight WR to mess with some BS blocking off motion or lead
wiglaf75
Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4: Yes and yes. Versatility and good technique is needed at that position.
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coachmac_
Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
We will run divide zone with him also lead with him. He is an adjuster use him when needed.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4: once we get good at IZ then I will start tagging the sniffer. Sift, slip, slice, bluff, the list goes on and on and on and on
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CoachBradyWalz
Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A2 Cont: Case in point. Big NT/DT movement, big gains
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CoachMBounds
Jun 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Bluff, Arc, and Kick out are my big 3. Also like H trap of 1st man BS of Center.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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Coach_Allison43
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
He can arc backside DE and take edge pressure or block the scraper, he can erase the backside DE, and he can block Will LB
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachLemn
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4. Yes. Jack of all trades.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
VERY true. Situationally they could be utilized in different ways.
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AugieCoachBEAR
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4: Tags make our Zone Multidimensional. We can Arc for read, Wham, Wham Bypass, and Fold him for WLB. Diff looks = Def False 🔑
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Moggy0303
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4 Mainly as a diversion. Send H on what looks like OZ and then run IZ. If he wants to hit someone in the process then..
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coachcodutti
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
WIDE ZONE!Drink the kool aide! I think trying to ask o linemen to sprint and overtake is asking MOST olinemen to fail. My opinion
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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CoachSpera
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q4: Most of the time he will either arc bs to force or kick bs C. My favorite is to kick out! Makes it that more physical!
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Warhogs56
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4) con't: and others have mentioned the H is a great play action (RPO) weapon.
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OLCoachBWill
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4: use the H to kick and lead. looking at a couple of tags this year. gotta be the right guy.
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wsentilles
Jun 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4: We can just call him a Swiss Army knife. He does it all back there depending on the play.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4: But I don't coach OL anymore so I have no idea what's going on...
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dhhs_oline
Jun 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
yep. Bubble, block, maybe even a shovel pass of some sort depending on the heat they bring
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BrennanMarion4
Jun 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
If u have a guy who is a solid pass catcher can really create some creases in the D when u motion him around forces D to freeze
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CoachB____
Jun 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4) used as split zone block to seal backside end. Also used to bypass BSE and lead to BSLB for designed Q keep lead zone.
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CoachTeasley
Jun 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I'm prehistoric. Under center we boot away with QB to handle DE. When we lock BST w r blocking the W with FB/H and splitting def
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4) Depends on personnel & their ability/want-to to put their nose in their and get a little dirty. An honorary hog, if you will.
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CoachHansen05
Jun 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4: Multiple roles. Insert to L2. Kicks BS DE from across the formation. We've run insert RPO with him as well.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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RyanKeeton1
Jun 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A4: Block BSDE, bluff BSDE and seal BSLB, insert and block PSLB on zone lead.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Yep. As do we. He worked 2 years under me. He will do a great job.
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wiglaf75
Jun 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Can you expand on any of your tags? We probably do some similar things, but terms are different. Thanks.
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A4) cont…Regardless, I LOVE to "Slice" him across at the snap for the BS End-Man on the LOS in Inside/Tight Zone!
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4) Depends on personnel & their ability/want-to to put their nose in their and get a little dirty. An honorary hog, if you will.
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Warhogs56
Jun 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
There are so many uses for such a player, the problem is finding a player willing to do the things you want.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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Jun 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
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YaBoyCoachJones
Jun 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A4: so simply put...as insert, arc player, split zone kick player, and naked boot off of split zone look
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CoachBjelke
Jun 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A4: Pistol, split backfield. Split zone for inside zone, back not assigned carry is blocking backside. Mix it up with Lead Zone
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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Wholey_23
Jun 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Securing playside A gap dl and lb.
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q2: What, in your opinion, is the most vital block in your Inside Zone scheme?
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AugieCoachBEAR
Jun 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Anyone Have any coaching cues or ideas when running Wham block vs Wrong arming DE. Especially vs flat down the Line De?
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thecoachvogt
Jun 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Slice sets up a nasty playaction
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Paying attention to this....
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RyanKeeton1
Jun 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Look at this guy showing up late trying to spread his agenda!
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coachcodutti
Jun 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
WIDE ZONE!Drink the kool aide! I think trying to ask o linemen to sprint and overtake is asking MOST olinemen to fail. My opinion
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CoachDingus
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Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1: Do you differentiate between Outside Zone and Wide Zone?
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Coaches, that's a wrap for your Monday night
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huge thanks for everybody who participated/lurked/learned tonight
IMFB_Blog
Jun 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Q4) zone lead he leads (give w hinge) zone read he arcs bs
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Jun 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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Jun 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Currently? Never. Not by choice, just schematically w/
#s
& coaches it's the only way for now. We work w/ TE's 1/3 of Indy work.
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OLCoachBWill
Jun 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
how often do you work your H with your OL? Indy etc.
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
NO! THIS SUCKS!
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Jun 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
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Jun 5 @ 10:00 PM EDT
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 10:00 PM EDT
NO!!! THIS SUCKS!!!
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Elmand
Jun 5 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Thanks to all. Good to get back and gain some knowledge!
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Coach_Ram8
Jun 5 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Thank you gentlemen!
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Jun 5 @ 10:00 PM EDT
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 10:00 PM EDT
cont…Ideally, the more involved in the blocking scheme the H/F is, the more I treat 'em like Hogs. Invite 'em to OL dinners, etc.
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Currently? Never. Not by choice, just schematically w/
#s
& coaches it's the only way for now. We work w/ TE's 1/3 of Indy work.
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OLCoachBWill
Jun 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
how often do you work your H with your OL? Indy etc.
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CoachColeJr
Jun 5 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Welp....
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 10:01 PM EDT
No doubt!! 👊
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Coach_Ram8
Jun 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
We have our F/H go with the OL as much as possible for individual. Give them no choice but to become a tough guy!
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DHonerlaw
Jun 5 @ 10:01 PM EDT
A4: Sometimes lead, sometimes trail, sometimes line up frontside and trap backside, keep em guessing.
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FISTFootball
Jun 5 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Thanks guys! You're all some good dudes!
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CoachTeasley
Jun 5 @ 10:02 PM EDT
The F controls the BDE in TZ from different alignments for most part. Also use him to block W/M to split def. Sets up PA game.
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 10:03 PM EDT
A4) cont…love me some Zone ISO!!
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: What sort of role does your F/H/sniffer back play in your Inside Zone? i.e. leading, blocking backside?
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CoachShiffman
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Jun 5 @ 10:03 PM EDT
I've been your cohost Tony Shiffman, signing out. See you all next Monday at 8pm CST for the latest installment of the
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CoachLemn
Jun 5 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Great night as always. Good luck to guys on camp circuit and those ending school
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 10:07 PM EDT
👇
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 10:11 PM EDT
cont…Unless you consider Fly Sweep or anything if that nature as part of your OZ package, of course.
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CoachStough
Jun 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Thinking the same thing. Most read game on the BS I've been involved with was on Inside/Tight Zone. Outside/Wide was always PS.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3) Don't think there is add value in the backside, may be value in reading frontside, conflicting an end or OLB or nosey Safety
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Jun 5 @ 10:23 PM EDT
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Jun 5 @ 10:33 PM EDT
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