#ISEDchat Archive
Independent School EdChat.
Thursday January 14, 2016
9:00 PM EST
MrsMurat
Jan 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
Ss blogs, please comment if you have time.
https://t.co/9AVBRhLIQR
#christianeducators
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#inquirychat
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ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
#techdirs
need to work with teachers to make sure that tools that match pedagogy are safe and secure
#isedchat
lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jan 14 @ 9:01 PM EST
Welcome to
#isedchat
! Tonight we are talking Student Data and Privacy. Thanks for helping
@ajpodchaski
!
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:01 PM EST
@lcarroll94
anytime - glad I can finally jump back in to this community!
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
Important to have point person to review tools used; however, all faculty are responsible for understanding privacy best practices
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dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
@lcarroll94
#isedchat
Hi Lorri! Sorry to be absent for soooooo long
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hello
#isedchat
- Alex -
#techdir
from
@OakKnollSHC
in NJ - great topic -
#studentprivacy
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
Thank you so much
@lcarroll94
for letting us try something new! Thank you
@ajpodchaski
for straddling chat/text lines!
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
Make sure privacy is part of your teacher tech toolkit - give them the guidance they need to help you keep students secure
#isedchat
lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jan 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
@theatlis
Do you feel that teachers will just opt not use the tools because they are intimidated by that?
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
Remember - Innovation does not require a power cord - pedagogy should drive the conversation, not the tools
#isedchat
lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jan 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
@dwillard
Miss you Derek! Hope all is well.
#isedchat
rhawk
Jan 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
#isedchat
curious if schools have policies on sharing info about Ss-behavior, academic challenges etc, via email/gmail?
#studentprivacy
mattscully
Jan 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
Interesting to review new european standards for privacy and student social media use ( 16 years old)
https://t.co/Rw03SRovC9
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
@lcarroll94
@theatlis
teachers wants to use what helps them - we need to make sure the tools are safe and help secure them
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
Too often the fear of the tools (because of unfamiliarity and fear of taking risks) leads to lack of innovation in the classroom
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
@rhawk
do you mean rules about email content regarding student progress/behavior?
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
As a 1:1 iPad school, I'm interested to see what Apple does with their new Ed offerings re use and privacy
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
@rhawk
That is a fantastic question--do others have policies about what can/can't be written in email?
#isedchat
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
@mattscully
re: new EU standards, Facebook bummed....
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
Don't forget the fear that they can stop working and ruin a lesson plan at any time :)
#isedchat
mattscully
Jan 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
Curious if your schools are asking Ts to register/ask permission/report which tools they are using in the classroom?
#isedchat
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
@skeeTX
#isedchat
new Apple ed offerings??? Tell us more...
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
@theatlis
@rhawk
Have to know anything shared via email could become public.
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
@mattscully
as the
#techdir
- I ask teachers annually what they use/want to use and research the lists
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
@lcarroll94
Yes, particularly those not inclined to use tech already. Also worry about shutting down the spontaneous thinkers.
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
@TyeJCampbell
Yes, then we can show Ss how to cope when things go awry
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
Good point
@ajpodchaski
- continuous ed and training for teachers will help drive away fear of tech and drive home excitement
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
@mattscully
we also actively work with teachers to identify new tools and pilot them to see if they will work
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
@skeeTX
@theatlis
@rhawk
anything stored digitally is easily shared - need professional prudence on how and where data is stored
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
@dwillard
They're bringing their own MDM and classroom app w/ features that allows T to view/control all screens.
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
Just like we teach resiliency with Ss, we also have to teach and remind our Ts about it as well
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
And what the teacher responses are when asked, if that happens.
#isedchat
https://t.co/ZdINSX2R3i
mattscully
Jan 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
Curious if your schools are asking Ts to register/ask permission/report which tools they are using in the classroom?
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
And Ts have to feel that they are in an environment that allows for trial-and-error and risk-taking, without fear of punishment
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
Our tech director monitors all use of tech and is aware of what we use. Great support!
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
Students are much more aware about social media and privacy than they are about data collection and tracking
#isedchat
(from webinar)
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
Same for Ss!
#isedchat
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
@skeeTX
#isedchat
I'm assuming school iPads/laptops ("locked down")? Or any apple device in room?
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
@dwillard
IPads I think. Supposed to come out with next update I believe.
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
Are any schools using tools like
https://t.co/S9lzYheCoc
or
https://t.co/oDCOhQRN85
or
https://t.co/9hby0YCeLY
to assess s'ware?
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
Need to deploy services based on plan rooted in school values and community expectation
#isedchat
(from webinar)
bjfr
Jan 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
What resources do people read to learn more about student privacy issues?
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
@theatlis
we have our own RUP.
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
Yes--they are wired to figure out how to talk w/out "authority figures" knowing about the convo/photos.
#isedchat
AssignmentHelpN
Jan 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
Top 5 Emerging EdTechTrends you Must Know in 2016
https://t.co/WYBZFBXkiI
#inquirychat
#isedchat
#LessonUP
#paedchat
https://t.co/LVLHaN0A6A
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
@bjfr
common sense media
#isedchat
bjfr
Jan 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
@theatlis
how does clever provide assessment
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
@bjfr
@theatlis
clever is about application management - keeps single sign on and other tech services in line
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
@dwillard
One of the first steps is to see if your software companies have signed the pledge.If not, ask them why and if they will
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
Students can get around blocks and filters, or know someone who can help them - teach them how to be digital citizens
#isedchat
(webinar)
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
@bjfr
Clever was just brought up in the audio chat with the others. Operates a bit differently
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
@skeetx
Absolutely - we focus on it more for Ss, and need to bring some focus back to Ts - can’t teach what we don’t practice
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
Absolutely! Adults often need more support than Ss.
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
Paper on youth perspectives from Berkman Center
https://t.co/1qq0VgmwIV
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
Paper on youth perspectives from Berkman Center
https://t.co/Sqga6ZKUC9
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
Schools focus on character & need to better tie it into digital citizenship - weave integrity into it - “when no one is looking”
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
Remember - digital citizenship takes conversation between all constituencies - parents, teachers, admin, students
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
"I don't know an 11yo w/out a smart phone"
@TeacherJenCarey
Berkman / Pew Report mentioned in audio chat.
https://t.co/BezyKcwKVT
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
Plenty of Ps still not aware of what their kids are doing online.
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
@skeeTX
that's why we have to help - education is a partnership - can't just let things pass without coordination
#isedchat
brholland
Jan 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
Absolutely! I like model via
@mattscully
&
@dwillard
as starting point.
#isedchat
https://t.co/kj0KWDrNjI
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
Schools focus on character & need to better tie it into digital citizenship - weave integrity into it - “when no one is looking”
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
@skeetx
@ajpodchaski
To many Ps, online activity is still the Great Unknown, & they don’t show much interest in catching up
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
Of course, but hard to know how effective we can be once Ss leave campus.
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
@skeeTX
we trust parents to oversee homework based on our trust relationship - once we inform parents we need to trust them
#isedchat
mattscully
Jan 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
#isedchat
@dwillard
wrote great post abt parents as tech mentors which connects to modeling privacy practices
https://t.co/p6ISH1NNc6
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
#isedchat
#digcit
MUST be part of character and culture so there is the greater chance we are effective when Ss leave campus
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
@skeetx
but they are all interested in protecting their children - we just need to frame the conversation properly
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
@dwillard
calls for parents to be their child's mentor regarding privacy
https://t.co/e4hbFqx9bJ
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
Absolutely! We all have codes of conduct - have they been modified to include
#digcit
#isedchat
https://t.co/ZRoWrZRlMV
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
#isedchat
#digcit
MUST be part of character and culture so there is the greater chance we are effective when Ss leave campus
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
#isedchat
https://t.co/8DcOW99WM1
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
@skeeTX
I know - but we should still start the discussion and provide education
#edtechchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
Right! When Ss have learned to do the right thing off-campus, we have done the right thing on-campus
#isedchat
https://t.co/AxGKJC8y3Y
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
#isedchat
#digcit
MUST be part of character and culture so there is the greater chance we are effective when Ss leave campus
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
@brholland
@TyeJCampbell
@ajpodchaski
Ps work and don't always want to follow up w/ kids or are still not educated on dangers.
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
Question on the webinar - what is the appropriate level of monitoring/filtering/tracking for schools?
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
@TyeJCampbell
Yes, but older Ss can con their folks. Slippery slope of not careful.
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
So are we talking the extension of
#digcit
to Ps as well? Has anyone included something like this in their school’s techn plan?
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
@skeeTX
@TyeJCampbell
We can still make them aware - we can't make them act
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
Much depends on age of Ss. Need to allow connections, exploration safely.
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
Do indy schools have obligation to counter the idea that submitting data collection is part of life now?
https://t.co/9a6uH1Setr
#isedchat
brholland
Jan 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
Great question!
#isedchat
https://t.co/Ktz8oxflLO
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
So are we talking the extension of
#digcit
to Ps as well? Has anyone included something like this in their school’s techn plan?
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
@TyeJCampbell
True, we cannot. Therein lies part of the issue. We can only do so much.
#isedchat
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
#isedchat
glad you asked, my tech dir
@mattscully
working on a project to extend
#digcit
to parents...
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
How far do we go in educating Ps about
#digcit
and bringing them up-to-speed?
#isedchat
mattscully
Jan 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
#isedchat
We have created this resource for Ts
https://t.co/ckgHjuxSog
& now creating one for parents in partnership with Ps
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
@brholland
@TyeJCampbell
Accountability for all parties necessary too!
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
@brholland
we have trained on
#gafe
when we first implemented, and training for web portal, but not much more yet
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
If truly partners, we should offer same Ed to them.
#isedchat
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
#isedchat
My recs in these blog posts, start with helping Ps understand the "3 CPAs":
https://t.co/CQfry9Tj4D
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
@skeeTX
@brholland
@TyeJCampbell
absolutely!
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
@TyeJCampbell
Providence Day School where
@dwillard
is & Greensboro Day
@DKSmith
r presenting together on including Ps at
#ATLIS16
#isedchat
KatieOnstad
Jan 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
The State of Student Privacy [VIDEO]
https://t.co/Cj2Ch6pA15
#isedchat
#transparency
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
Interesting bit from the webinar. Contract negotiations with a vendor are a good place to clarify privacy expectations.
#isedchat
.
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
Do Ps abdicate dig cit responsibility to schools?
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
Schools should be upfront in student handbook & policies on what/why/consequences of use of school tech & networks
#isedchat
(webinar)
mattscully
Jan 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
another video about privacy & data tracking
https://t.co/f1MLkwTxQj
#isedchat
@CommonSenseEdu
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:39 PM EST
@theatlis
@dwillard
@dksmith
I am looking forward to hearing you both at
#ATLIS2016
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:39 PM EST
@skeeTX
I don't think so - because they use tech without us - but we can help them
#isedchat
EdFramework
Jan 14 @ 9:40 PM EST
Student Privacy Best Practices
https://t.co/A1KMTPWH9p
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:40 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
Some see it as we (school) require the tech so we should provide all Ed, not them in partnership.
#isedchat
theatlis
Jan 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
Compulsory power of schools to indoctrinate children. . . corporations assemble massive dossiers on [them]
#isedchat
https://t.co/ZjQY7J0Vgl
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
@mattscully
True, but I've met some who don't understand the tech and aren't interested in learning.
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
@skeeTX
I don't see a problem providing the education - but that should drive a conversation at home on what should be done
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
Agree. We should provide. How do we respectfully follow up?
#isedchat
skeeTX
Jan 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
#isedchat
thanks, everyone! Daddy duty time!
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
@skeeTX
like all other subject matter we teach? we look for the results of what we have taught and see if they are being applied
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
Resource from webinar
https://t.co/4jzAmXBMmJ
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
Resource from webinar
https://t.co/W8iQZGQB0x
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
Resource from webinar
https://t.co/QwqMbhPqVC
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
Resource from webinar
https://t.co/zwKR5Am0Vo
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:49 PM EST
resource from webinar Education Framework offers automated tools for schools & districts -
https://t.co/AYrQ2DVh4B
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:49 PM EST
resource from webinar Education Framework offers automated tools for schools & districts -
https://t.co/TAMjjmfrsx
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
OK - for those not on the webinar - you need to listen to this part on the recording - about how you share info with vendors
#isedchat
dwillard
Jan 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
#isedchat
Enjoyed convo on
#digcit
student privacy tonight, but have to bow out a bit early. Important convo we must keep up with Ss, Ts, Ps
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:53 PM EST
Discussion on webinar on how to use twitter in the classroom - great feedback on concerns and issues
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
Teachers should clear any use of social media in lessons with
#techir
, heads, to keep use clear of policy violations
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
We want to take risks, but shouldn't risk your job just to try something new
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
Teachers should clear any use of social media in lessons with
#techdir
, heads, to keep use clear of policy violations
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
Work with your
#techdir
and admins to develop ground rules for using online tools & social media for the classroom
#isedchat
lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jan 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
@ajpodchaski
I think this is very important. Many tech directors are just happy when teachers want to try new thing but...
#isedchat
TyeJCampbell
Jan 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
What a blast of a
#isedchat
tonight! Looking forward to the next one, and especially towards
#ATLIS2016
Good night all!
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
Resource from webinar "Protecting Student Privacy While Using Online Educational Services"
https://t.co/IxdN4Ln5XJ
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
resource from webinar
https://t.co/c6pP84CLsP
#isedchat
ajpodchaski
Jan 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
resource from webinar
https://t.co/ArrWDApvfL
#isedchat