#PatinsIcam Archive

A weekly half hour chat focused on improving access to education for PK-12 students through the use of Accessible Educational Materials (AEM), Universal Design for Learning (UDL), and Assistive Technology (AT).

Tuesday May 29, 2018
8:30 PM EDT

  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome 2 @PATINSPROJECT chat! IN educator? PGP cert link will be tweeted at the end #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Wait! That's my line! hahaha #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @RachelH872
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    We're so glad you've chosen 2 spend this time with us! We are honored and excited 2nite to have Sarah Kiefer as our guest expert. Sarah is the Deaf Education Coordinator for the Center for Deaf and Hard of Hearing Education. #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi! Sarah Kiefer, the DHH Teacher is in! Teacher, administrator, curriculum developer, presenter, out of the box thinker, techie, hippie #patinsicam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Sarah will share her expertise with us as we consider misconceptions, share information and discuss supports for students who are deaf or hard of hearing #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Julie Kuhn here. PATINS Specialty areas: AT Team Development, AAC Device access, OI Access.Glad to be here! #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Welcome, Sarah!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    SO grateful to have you here tonight!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Rachel Herron here...ready to learn from the experts! So grateful to be here tonight and to get this chat rolling! #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi there! Sandi Smith, Accessible Content Authoring, Apple & Chrome Accessibility & Integration, Secondary Age: SLD & Transition Specialist ready to learn! #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Pls introduce yourself, tell us where ur from and what u do. Don't forget to use the hashtag 4 each tweet! #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Thanks for having me #patinsicam
    In reply to @VickiW823
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    We'll post questions as Q1, Q2, etc. Pls tweet ur response with A1, A2, etc. Don't forget to add the hashtag to each tweet! #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Can't wait to hear the discussion! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi! Jessica, SLP & PATINS Specialist for AAC, Early Interventions, AEM tech, tutorials, tweeting from lovely (hot!) Bargersville #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt May 29 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hello all, Bev Sharritt, BLV specialist for PATINS ready to learn about this important topic! #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Q1: The many labels used to describe our sense of hearing can be confusing. What terms are preferred and why? #PatinsIcam
  • mwhammond1 May 29 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi there, Martha Hammond from the ICAM, ready to learn new things tonight! #patinsicam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Welcome! #patinsicam
    In reply to @mwhammond1
  • danielgmcnulty May 29 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hello! Not sure about my contributions, but I'm so glad to be here to learn with you all! Director of @PATINSPROJECT, former teacher, para, therapist and so grateful for our @VickiW823 and guest STAR @DHHteacherISin tonight! #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A1: Individuals should be respected for how they self-identify. #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1: I am equally confused about the labels...and confusion leads to people not talking about things! #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1: Hearing impaired is to be avoided by professionals - many individuals don’t consider themselves as impaired #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Always a good start! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • BevSharritt May 29 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    so just directly ask them how they would choose? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 It should be person first. #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Q2: How do you determine who qualifies for services for students who are Deaf or Hard of Hearing (D/HH)? #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Yes, that's fine. Don't assume #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BevSharritt
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Unless of course, someone does not prefer that!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @PATINSSandi
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1: (1) The National Deaf Center (NDC) uses the term deaf in an all-inclusive manner, to include people who may identify as Deaf, deaf, deafblind, deafdisabled, hard of hearing, late-deafened, and hearing impaired. #patinsicam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: (2) NDC recognizes that for many individuals, identity is fluid and can change over time or with setting. https://t.co/snOHRmHsEW #patinsicam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Agree - but I frequently hear this term used out in the schools! #PatinsIcam
    • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      A1: Hearing impaired is to be avoided by professionals - many individuals don’t consider themselves as impaired #patinsicam
  • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    True. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @RachelH872
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A2: Should consider implications of hearing loss on: academic, language, adaptive and social #patinsicam
  • therealmrateam May 29 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Antony Thomas here. Instructional Assistant for Clark-pleasant. Former Teacher of Service at New Connections, an Alternative setting. I'm here to follow and gain knowledge along the way! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Everything I learned, I learned from @jconradslp #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    I agree! Do you ask people if it's not always clear right away? And what about when there's no one to ask directly? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A2: Self-advocacy and other expanded core curriculum needs should also be considered #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Welcome Antony!! Glad you are here!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @therealmrateam
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Welcome Antony! #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Excellent point! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Hang on there. You just said Deaf and deaf. Please explain? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    If someone self-identifies as such, that's fine, but professionals should use deaf or hard of hearing #patinsicam
    In reply to @VickiW823
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Q3: What challenges exist for families of children who are D/HH with regard to qualification for educational services? #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt May 29 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A2: sounds like a team effort in the evaluation process leading up to the case conference #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    That is really helpful! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin, @VickiW823
  • danielgmcnulty May 29 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Welcome Antony! Good to see you here. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @therealmrateam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Typically 'D' refers to culturally Deaf and 'd' refers to someone who has a significant amt of hearing loss #patinsicam
    In reply to @PATINSSandi
  • therealmrateam May 29 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Agreed because people are more than a label! #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Use deaf or hard of hearing if you can't ask directly #patinsicam
    In reply to @danielgmcnulty
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Me neither...what are we, 3 questions in? I NEEDED THIS! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @PATINSSandi
  • ksuding May 29 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    This I love 💕. Yes! Hi #PatinsIcam. New day and new day of learning from @DHHteacherISin & our very own @VickiW823
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin, @DHHteacherISin, @VickiW823
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A3: it can be really frustrating to see very young student who may appear to be "fine enough" but then struggle when the demands of language and content increase dramatically a few short years later #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Deaf usually means the individual is involved in the Deaf Community and uses ASL to communicate #patinsicam
  • BevSharritt May 29 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    good to know this nuance #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @PATINSSandi
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    I never knew there were such subtle delineations! This is very useful. #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A3: Licensure renewal doesn’t require CEU/PGP in the field -Deaf Education has had a huge shift due to technology and early ID -Most SLPs don’t have training to work with DHH -Only .22% of Indiana Ss have DHH eligibility - only 1% of IEPs are for DHH Ss #patinsicam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Q4: How do you work with audiologists and SLPs? Which professional covers which role/responsibility? #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Check out the National Deaf Center's definition #patinsicam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A4: Good resources -AUD vs TOD https://t.co/dlWVYohfcj -SLP competencies https://t.co/idRLHfWyI8 0TOD vs SLP https://t.co/M6Jc4C6k9F #patinsicam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    I agree! @jconradslp "Good enough" is NOT OK!! #PatinsIcam
    • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      A3: it can be really frustrating to see very young student who may appear to be "fine enough" but then struggle when the demands of language and content increase dramatically a few short years later #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    https://t.co/gkq45fMro0 #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    such helpful information, Sarah! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • ksuding May 29 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Yes which makes you “Antony Thomas of #PatinsIcam chat” this evening. Ha ha Welcome @therealmrateam
    In reply to @therealmrateam, @therealmrateam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q5: It is sometimes said that language is “caught not taught.” What is meant by this and how does it relate to children who are D/HH? #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt May 29 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6: Closed captioning for any audio/video materials #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5: Parents should be coached to describe their environment constantly Have you heard of the 30 million words initiative https://t.co/nhAbgcVqLf #patinsicam
  • BevSharritt May 29 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A5: folks learning a language acquire more by being immersed in the language #PatinsIcam
  • therealmrateam May 29 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Thank you for having me, Kelli! #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Most of what is learned is learned incidentally. For DHH kids, they need intentional language instruction directed right at them #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A5: so much of what we learn about language wasn't ever taught to our kids, they "usually" soak it up like sponges. Did anyone teach you how to use the word "is"? Probably not, you just learned it, but Ss who are DHH need that instruction #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q6: How are literacy skills best supported for students who are D/HH? What aspects of language and communication development are most impacted? #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Directly in their line of vision sometimes #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Great resource! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Good news: this instruction helps LOTS of students! AAC users, English Language learners, students with language impairments, etc. #PatinsIcam
    • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:46 PM EDT
      Most of what is learned is learned incidentally. For DHH kids, they need intentional language instruction directed right at them #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    This is what we advise for Ss with low to no-verbal skills. The more the child is talked with, the better! #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A6: Right now the shift is to teach reading via phonics. Sometimes DHH Ss need visual phonics #patinsicam
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Can you give an example or good resource? #PatinsIcam
    • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:48 PM EDT
      A6: Right now the shift is to teach reading via phonics. Sometimes DHH Ss need visual phonics #patinsicam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    And low SES families, too #patinsicam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    You could call it Universally Designed! #PatinsIcam #UDL
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Q7: For students who are deaf or hard of hearing, does exposure to American Sign Language (ASL) harm or help their spoken language development? Please elaborate. #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    https://t.co/lL9OBr9OXh #patinsicam I love to pair it with the book Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Another fabulous resouce! #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A6: Annual language assessments are important to ensure a gap is not being created -Auditory learning guide - can’t do higher skills without having foundation skills https://t.co/QOpIT9eSld -Language milestones https://t.co/zwOlKfk5Zi #patinsicam
  • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Just clarifying Socioeconomic status (SES) is an economic and sociological combined total measure of a person's work experience and of an individual's or family's economic and social position in relation to others, based on income, education, and occupation. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin, @JulieHKuhn
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A7: Language development in general is important - must give access #patinsicam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A7: My high school valedictorian knew 4 langs. Do you think that contributed to his success? What about how “designer” it has become to teach babies sign? There are baby sign classes popping up everywhere #patinsicam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A lot of research is out there for dual language learners - just must give access #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Once again, ACCESS is KEY!! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    let no acronym tear this twitter chat asunder! (also excellent language clarification from @PATINSSandi) #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @PATINSSandi, @DHHteacherISin, @JulieHKuhn, @PATINSSandi
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Thank You, I could not come up with what it was! #PatinsIcam
    • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
      Just clarifying Socioeconomic status (SES) is an economic and sociological combined total measure of a person's work experience and of an individual's or family's economic and social position in relation to others, based on income, education, and occupation. #PatinsIcam
      In reply to @DHHteacherISin, @JulieHKuhn
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Q8: What factors will need to be considered in relation to the ILEARN Indiana state assessment accommodations for students who are deaf or hard of hearing? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Yes...I believe she is referring to the study that reflects the number of words children from lower SES homes are exposed to...#PatinsIcam
    • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
      Just clarifying Socioeconomic status (SES) is an economic and sociological combined total measure of a person's work experience and of an individual's or family's economic and social position in relation to others, based on income, education, and occupation. #PatinsIcam
      In reply to @DHHteacherISin, @JulieHKuhn
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    You got it! #patinsicam
    In reply to @RachelH872
  • ksuding May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I wish I could contribute more but I will say that many schools do struggle with navigating appropriate accommodations & access 4 Ss who are DHH & this current chat of resources is seeming highly valuable. #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    And the quality of those words they are exposed to matters tremendously too! #PatinsIcam
    • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:52 PM EDT
      Yes...I believe she is referring to the study that reflects the number of words children from lower SES homes are exposed to...#PatinsIcam
      • PATINSSandi May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
        Just clarifying Socioeconomic status (SES) is an economic and sociological combined total measure of a person's work experience and of an individual's or family's economic and social position in relation to others, based on income, education, and occupation. #PatinsIcam
        In reply to @DHHteacherISin, @JulieHKuhn
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I often consider this use of sign language to be a kinesthetic approach to learning. #PatinsIcam
    • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
      A7: My high school valedictorian knew 4 langs. Do you think that contributed to his success? What about how “designer” it has become to teach babies sign? There are baby sign classes popping up everywhere #patinsicam
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A7: have an accessible robust language like ASL can lay the foundation for any and all future language learning. We never want to rob students of access to language #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A8: -Full auditory and/or visual access -Read aloud portions - many DHH Ss rely on hearing a human voice, lipreading cues -Computer-generated voice can cause distortion for Ss with hearing aids and cochlear implants #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A8 (con't) ASL interpreters are left to interpret test by themselves - no script = not standardized? #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Absolutely the quality...#PatinsIcam
    In reply to @VickiW823
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    It can be for many kiddos #patinsicam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Preach it! #PatinsIcam
    • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
      A8: -Full auditory and/or visual access -Read aloud portions - many DHH Ss rely on hearing a human voice, lipreading cues -Computer-generated voice can cause distortion for Ss with hearing aids and cochlear implants #PatinsIcam
  • therealmrateam May 29 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Agreed! I think it helps with all student engagement too! #PatinsIcam
    • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
      I often consider this use of sign language to be a kinesthetic approach to learning. #PatinsIcam
      • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
        A7: My high school valedictorian knew 4 langs. Do you think that contributed to his success? What about how “designer” it has become to teach babies sign? There are baby sign classes popping up everywhere #patinsicam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Don't get me started! Hopping onto my soapbox! #patinsicam
    • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:55 PM EDT
      Preach it! #PatinsIcam
      • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
        A8: -Full auditory and/or visual access -Read aloud portions - many DHH Ss rely on hearing a human voice, lipreading cues -Computer-generated voice can cause distortion for Ss with hearing aids and cochlear implants #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Q9: What are some specific ways in which the principles of UDL benefit students who are deaf or hard of hearing? Examples? #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt May 29 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    is closed captioning considered full visual access? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @VickiW823
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Visual Phonics, too. It helps many struggling readers and EL students. #PatinsIcam
    • therealmrateam May 29 @ 8:56 PM EDT
      Agreed! I think it helps with all student engagement too! #PatinsIcam
      • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:54 PM EDT
        I often consider this use of sign language to be a kinesthetic approach to learning. #PatinsIcam
        • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:51 PM EDT
          A7: My high school valedictorian knew 4 langs. Do you think that contributed to his success? What about how “designer” it has become to teach babies sign? There are baby sign classes popping up everywhere #patinsicam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    We're ready! This needs to be voiced! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @DHHteacherISin
  • jconradslp May 29 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A7: I think it's also important to note that the signing that we often see in classrooms (the occasional "yes" "sit" "cookie" paired w/ English) is not a form of language, it's helpful for many but not the same as ASL and not described as "using sign language" #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Not always - it depends on the child's reading fluency #patinsicam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Every day! #patinsicam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Great questions! Not for non readers.... #PatinsIcam
  • VickiW823 May 29 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Q10: How can students who are deaf or hard of hearing have more opportunities to socialize with one another? How can professionals help foster this socialization? #PatinsIcam
  • DHHteacherISin May 29 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A9: DHH is often the forgotten/unseen “disability” - captioning, quality auditory and visual access is necessary. DHH Ss don’t always know what they’re missing b/c it’s not heard #patinsicam
  • JulieHKuhn May 29 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A9: The fact that UDL is about planning for Ss before they get there makes a big difference up front.#PatinsIcam