#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.
Monday January 30, 2017
8:00 PM EST
  • MrsMurat Jan 30 @ 8:00 PM EST
    My Ss provide evidence they are Digital leaders! https://t.co/Pjh5jwjLdc #socedchat #LearnLAP #musedchat #teacherwellness #vachat #nyedchat
  • participatechat Jan 30 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #musedchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/x9OSK7xqnl
  • BMeiselOSU Jan 30 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Ben Meisel, 6-8 band, Snow Belt Ohio. Hello all! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hi folks! Jocelyn, HS Band & Vocal teacher from York Region, Ontario. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Welcome to the chat Ben, how much snow are you dealing with right now? #musedchat
    In reply to @BMeiselOSU
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi all, 4-7 general music, 8th theatre. Eastern Shore of MD. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Welcome Jocelyn, how are you tonight? #musedchat
    In reply to @jkervs
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Welcome to the chat, hope you had a good Monday #musedchat
    In reply to @theatreducate
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Greetings! Amy from MI! Middle school band. #musedchat
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Miki, K-5 general/band/orchestra/choir, IL. Excited to start some mariachi music with my dual language kiddos! #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Andrea. Grade 6-12 band teacher. Alberta, Canada #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hi all Sam Fritz 6-8 band from Greenwood IN @CGMSCBands #musedchat
    In reply to @CGMSCBands
  • phyllissings Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Phyllis, Louisiana, just got back from final bball home game of the season, where my choir Ss sang the National Anthem #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    How are you tonight, Amy? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Sounds great! Hope they're excited too. #musedchat
    In reply to @msmusiced
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Good to see you Andrea, hope you're doing well #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Good thanks, Joe! Taking a bit of a break from finishing Semester 1 report cards, so this convo is very timely! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • CGMSCBands Jan 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Thanks for the mention! SamuelFritz: Hi all Sam Fritz 6-8 band from Greenwood IN CGMSCBands #musedchat
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    It's Catholic Schools Week. It's fun, it's crazy, its a great time to be a specials teacher! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Good to see you again, how are you this week? #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Not too shabby. Yourself? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi virtual friend. #musedchat
    In reply to @phyllissings
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Congratulations, hope the performance went well #musedchat
    In reply to @phyllissings
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:05 PM EST
    I see spreadsheets when I close my eyes this time of year. #musedchat
    In reply to @jkervs, @jguarr
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:05 PM EST
    doing well. Looking forward to the new semester starting tomorrow. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Drowning in playing tests...thank goodness for Doctopus #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:05 PM EST
    They've been asking for it and I finally found legitimate mariachi music for elem kids at #IMEC2017 #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:06 PM EST
    so far so good - it is only Monday though #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • BMeiselOSU Jan 30 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A few inches. Hit hard last night and into commute time, most of the greater Cleveland area was closed today. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:06 PM EST
    That was most of my weekend. I think I finally have them done. Sure I'll get a few emails about things I missed though. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:06 PM EST
    what does doctopus do? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:07 PM EST
    I have GOT to learn how to use Doctopus #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @AmyLynnRever
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:07 PM EST
    I've been using it to grade video playing tests from Google Classroom, and email rubrics to students #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Doctopus is WONDERFUL! It's the system that GClass uses to give copy to each Ss, but can be used alone. #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk, @jguarr
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:08 PM EST
    There are some decent tutorials on youtube. It's been a huge help this year. #musedchat
    In reply to @theatreducate, @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Q1: What does your gradebook look like? What categories/assessments do you include? #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:08 PM EST
    is it easy to use? I do playing tests through Google classroom, but just private message the S back. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:08 PM EST
    I use @Seesaw for our digital portfolios now. Makes it really easy for kids to upload perf. videos! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @AndreaMakarchuk, @Seesaw
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Watched a 10 minute tutorial video and felt totally comfortable with it. #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Everything is still through GC, but makes it much easier to manage on your end. #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk, @jguarr
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: Project based learning. I try and do an assessment every other week. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: Sparse. Only 8-10 assignments per marking period. Many are credit/no-credit w/ exception of playing assessments. #musedchat
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: Gradebk is not as great as I would like. Not enough balance bn perf/creation/analysis yet. Still working on a good balance. #musedchat
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:10 PM EST
    I have 60% classwork, 40% participation. I don't have letter grades though- it's by expectations. 'Meets' is 79% #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: technique, concert performance, repertoire, theory #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1.1: Still not happy with grading system overall though. Still a work in progress. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Seems like many people are constantly tweaking their balance. #musedchat
    In reply to @jkervs
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: daily achievement, music theory l / written, perf, assessments each weighted differently 6-8 but same in b/c/o #musedchat
  • BMeiselOSU Jan 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Same boat here. Caught between old mentality of rehearsal points and adapting more assessments and growth tracking. #musedchat
    In reply to @jkervs
  • craigvogl Jan 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: performance tests, written work, listening, pep band, daily points #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    we're not allowed to assess participation, as it is not an outcome in the curriculum. #musedchat
    In reply to @msmusiced
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1-2: I am not comfortable giving grades based off of skill for my beginning instrumental. Showing up with the inst. is promise #musedchat
  • SadlerOrchestra Jan 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #musedchat I do lots of playing quizzes to test technique. I have been doing exit tickets using Google forms.
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Tech in what way? We use GC, but there's a class set of seven iPads available for Ss to use at school. #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach, @jguarr
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1.1: weekly checks for understanding with 2-3 playing assessments per quarter #musedchat
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Interesting. It's pretty hard to get a bad part grade for me- unless you're truant. #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1: Playing exam (1/semester), practice reflections (5/sem), weekly rehearsal skills (replaced participation grade this yr) #musedchat
  • ImTheRealReRe Jan 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    glad i can actually be able to participate in tonight's chat for the whole time. Do we have to introduce ourselves every week? #musedchat
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    I need to do more of these. #musedchat
    In reply to @SadlerOrchestra
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Certainly don't have to, but we have some new folks each week #musedchat
    In reply to @ImTheRealReRe
  • massignmenthelp Jan 30 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #4thchat #Admin2B #cdnedchat #collabed #TLchat #musedchat 10 Ways to read textbooks effectively https://t.co/0iOcFyoUbb
  • AssignmentHelpN Jan 30 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #4thchat #Admin2B #cdnedchat #collabed #TLchat #musedchat A Quick Guide on How to Write a Book Review https://t.co/3BnLyV1BCF
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A1.2: Struggling to balance giving Ss individual feedback w/ maintaining personal sanity. #musedchat
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A1: Lots of reflections along the way. Playing tests, projects. Still need more creation. In-Band weekly rehearsal logs. #musedchat
  • Mwren13 Jan 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Yes! I agree. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • SchneiderBrandt Jan 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1: I have gone to students designing/assigning their grades this year. We are improving each term https://t.co/DSR0wNuAP2 #musedchat
  • SchneiderBrandt Jan 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1: I have gone to students designing/assigning their grades this year. We are improving each term https://t.co/eHVy9cV68W #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    It's still a work in progress. But a change made sense as the school moved to standards-based grading #musedchat
    In reply to @SadlerOrchestra
  • BMeiselOSU Jan 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    How do you measure weekly rehearsal skills? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Broke it down into four categories: preparedness, focus, participation, teamwork/ensemble skills #musedchat
    In reply to @BMeiselOSU
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Hmmm...Grants to obtain class set of something? Chromebooks are less pricey than iPads. #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach
  • rebelmusicteach Jan 30 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Hi!! Emily, Palm Beach County, FL, 6-8 band/chorus. Hope y'all are doing well. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Wow, sounds interesting. How did the students respond at first? #musedchat
    In reply to @SchneiderBrandt
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A1.3 Working on incorporating gamification into the Band classes. #musedchat #XPLAP
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:19 PM EST
    How are you doing that? Sounds interesting. #musedchat
    In reply to @jkervs
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:19 PM EST
    For limited tech, I would go the @Seesaw route- its great for shared devices. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @rebelmusicteach, @Seesaw
  • BMeiselOSU Jan 30 @ 8:19 PM EST
    All director-decided? Are you taking any notes during rehearsal? Do students know when they lose points? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • rebelmusicteach Jan 30 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A1: my gradebook is 35% performance, 30% participation, 20% pass-offs, 15% academic/proficency (written work). #musedchat
  • craigvogl Jan 30 @ 8:21 PM EST
    We also have Marzano as our model so we use smart goals and scales, which I sometimes forget to include #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:21 PM EST
    I've got rosters on my stand w/ each day of the week and all four categories. Right now it's all me (1/2) #musedchat
    In reply to @BMeiselOSU
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:22 PM EST
    I used google forms to formalize feedback - Frequently Used Comments- click them into the form-responses get sent in feedback #musedchat
    • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:15 PM EST
      A1.2: Struggling to balance giving Ss individual feedback w/ maintaining personal sanity. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:22 PM EST
    (2/2) but I would like to start incorporating student self-assessment, and conferencing w/ them if our scores differ #musedchat
    In reply to @BMeiselOSU
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Self/peer assessment is something I want to do more of. Need to keep it manageable though. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @BMeiselOSU
  • BMeiselOSU Jan 30 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Think of all the things we could do for our students if we just had unlimited time. #unstoppablebandempire #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Q2: What types of assessment are the most meaningful for your students? Why? #musedchat
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:25 PM EST
    for the project ending tomorrow we're doing a KWL via google forms and self assessment #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:25 PM EST
    For self/peer assessment, I have used Pear Deck with 5th Chromebooks. Ss see anonymous comments- but I know who sent what. #musedchat
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2 the answer is not "the one where they get an A" #musedchat
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A2: 1-on-1 feedback. Recorded vids of themselves/each other that they have to assess. Evals of other Bands playing same music. #musedchat
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A2: 90% of my Ss don't know I give out grades sooo... #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Lots of PBL w/ my tech class. Grading is more like a revision process, they get a chance to edit/grow. #musedchat
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A2.1: Post-performance reflections via GForms. #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A2: any assessment that gives S immediate and individualized feedback. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A2: video self-talk practice sessions. I get to evaluate learning process before evaluating for mastery #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Jan 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A2: we have scales, and I have the Novice/Experienced/Practitioner/Expert visual aide w/ Gustavo Dudamel. Kids love it. #musedchat
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Sorry I'm late! Bill Boswell from Mattawan, gonna hop in, hopefully I haven't missed to much! #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A2: Feedback combined w/ unlimited chances at retakes. Not as many took advantage as I'd like, but many Ss made improvements. #musedchat
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A2-2: I have @ClassDojo pick random kids to sing, and I give them feedback, a point for singing, and a solo brag tag #musedchat
    In reply to @ClassDojo
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Good to see you Bill, how have you been? #musedchat
    In reply to @Boswell_Bill
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Are those print out resources? #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Hi Bill! Glad you could join! 😜#musedchat
    In reply to @Boswell_Bill
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:29 PM EST
    How can we use that model in performance music class? #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
      Lots of PBL w/ my tech class. Grading is more like a revision process, they get a chance to edit/grow. #musedchat
  • musiccargirl14 Jan 30 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A2: ones that help build real life skills! #musedchat
  • craigvogl Jan 30 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A2-I don't think any of the performance tests are meaningful, maybe the listening and storylines and descriptive responses. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Allowing Ss to work towards growth/mastery is a good thing #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A2: My Ss seem to like our brief rehearsal wrap-up chats. They have the opportunity to speak to their assessment of rehearsal #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:29 PM EST
    I agree! Have the same problem...not many do redos #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • EduGladiators Jan 30 @ 8:30 PM EST
    🗽February #EduGladiators kicks off NEW series: We are Family! @mathieu_w leads convo on diversity & trust! #LearnLAP #MASSPchat #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Aiming for the same. Ss struggling w/ idea that one assessment has major impact on overall grade. #musedchat
    In reply to @craigvogl, @jguarr, @BMeiselOSU
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Can you describe these chats a little bit? How long? What questions get asked? #musedchat
    In reply to @Boswell_Bill
  • rebelmusicteach Jan 30 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A2.1: Ss will often rate their own "pass-offs" based on those scales, and that's very helpful. Tchr/peer feedback simultaneously! #musedchat
  • craigvogl Jan 30 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A2-2 one of the ones they like is taking a recording and creating a fictional story based on the music, it ties in with writing 2 #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:31 PM EST
    I wonder if Ss just don't know how to improve so they don't use retake opportunities #musedchat
    • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:28 PM EST
      A2: Feedback combined w/ unlimited chances at retakes. Not as many took advantage as I'd like, but many Ss made improvements. #musedchat
  • ImTheRealReRe Jan 30 @ 8:31 PM EST
    I'm reahna I'm 16 and a sophomore in high school and I want to be a chorus teacher #musedchat
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    very brief. Last couple seconds. Best is watching Ss who aren't really the typical 'leaders' get to say their piece too. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • rebelmusicteach Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    our "Scales" are required by admin, and I post mine & give kids copies for their folders on bright paper. #musedchat
    In reply to @msmusiced
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Hi Reahna! Great goal! Welcome! #musedchat
    In reply to @ImTheRealReRe
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Qs often center around the aesthetic. My Ss seem realistic about technical achievements, but enjoy discussing beauty #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Welcome! It's a great profession you'll be joining #musedchat
    In reply to @ImTheRealReRe
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Loved your session on community at MMC! Also, I think you're my nephew's director. #smallworld #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Could be, but I try to give pretty specific feedback to help w/ re-takes. Maybe need to rethink rubric again too... #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Yeah. I wonder who I can thank for that 😜 P.S. Thx #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Q3: Lots of schools are moving to standards-based grading. What could that look like in the music room? #musedchat
  • MrBMusicTeacher Jan 30 @ 8:37 PM EST
    #musedchat students think under application they get marked on excepts from repertoire, I believe communicating, chamber assessments
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A2: Gave Ss the opportunity to do audio recordings vs. practice cards. They def. chose cards. #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A3: I have that! Well, kinda. The grade is 1-4 overall, not each standard. Participation/behavior is a separate category #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A3: Moving away from class participation based grades. More skill based. #musedchat
  • maestrolinville Jan 30 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Hard to fake an audio recording. :-). #musedchat
    • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:37 PM EST
      A2: Gave Ss the opportunity to do audio recordings vs. practice cards. They def. chose cards. #musedchat
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A3: I have it, and I am struggling. I like letter grades. They gave my class more weight. #musedchat
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A3: If I'm honest. I'm not sure. There's still a lot about the standards that aren't musicing. #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    instead of A thru F grade, each music standard is listed on the report card and it tells if Ss are meeting, etc. #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A3: I like the emphasis on continual growth that SBG provides. Letter grade seems finite. SBG can improve. #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    It's been awhile, #musedchat glad I made it back. Adam from NJ, 3-6 music.
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Yeah, I only have two categories- skills and behavior. I have exceeds/meets/below expectations #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • craigvogl Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A3 National Vs State, we adopted national, try to implement as many as we can. More goals and scales. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Good to see you again Adam, welcome. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • SamuelFritz Jan 30 @ 8:41 PM EST
    All your state, nafme? It just essential learnings? #musedchat
    • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
      instead of A thru F grade, each music standard is listed on the report card and it tells if Ss are meeting, etc. #musedchat
      In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:42 PM EST
    that speaks to growth mindset. Are any assessments summative? Aren't we always trying to improve, thus formative? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:42 PM EST
    I know it's not everywhere, but we have separate report card category for behavior. #musedchat
    In reply to @craigvogl
  • jkervs Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A3: Could allow more room for student-created perf. criteria. Encourages progress to a goal. #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    I don't fully do it, but the other Ts at my school that do use just the NJ standards. (I'd like to use NAfME for it) #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    One of our elementaries is doing standards-based report cards. Rest of the district is still on letters/4.0 scale for now. #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Have to go. Thanks for the chat. Have a great week everyone! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    You as well, glad you could join us! #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:44 PM EST
    And I think that elementary put their own standards on the report card...could be wrong though. #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:45 PM EST
    I feel it would be less stressful for Ss though. It would be saying "u can do this, but not quite this" which... #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • ImTheRealReRe Jan 30 @ 8:45 PM EST
    I can't really respond to any of these questions because I'm not a teacher but I'm still here LOL #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:45 PM EST
    ...is what Ss get from us anyways. "hey you had the right note but you cut off early/good rhythm, out of tune.." #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • NovaScotiaMEA Jan 30 @ 8:45 PM EST
    #musedchat happening now
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A3: I can't show growth with SBG. Ss have to do really poor on assignments just to be knocked down to 'meets'. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:47 PM EST
    What are you being graded on as a student? What would you like to be graded on? #musedchat
    In reply to @ImTheRealReRe
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:47 PM EST
    As musicians we could say the performance is summative, but there is so much formative that happens before that. #musedchat
    In reply to @Boswell_Bill
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:48 PM EST
    However, with K I only have to say the 'tier' instead of having points that add to that specific SBG. #musedchat
    In reply to @msmusiced
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:48 PM EST
    True! but what if we have multiple performances of the work? Isn't every time we attempt a piece a performance? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:48 PM EST
    assess them on scales of more than 1-4 but translate to SBG for report cards... #musedchat
    In reply to @msmusiced
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:50 PM EST
    ...like, 15/20 or higher is a 4, 11-14 is 3, etc. You'll have documentation of growth at least, if not on report cards #musedchat
    In reply to @msmusiced
  • AmyLynnRever Jan 30 @ 8:51 PM EST
    It should be. But I think an audience gives vibe that can't be recreated in rehearsals. #musedchat
    In reply to @Boswell_Bill
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:51 PM EST
    and increasing on a scale of 1-100 doesn't necessarily mean growth has been achieved either. #musedchat
    In reply to @msmusiced
  • Boswell_Bill Jan 30 @ 8:52 PM EST
    these are the questions that keep me up at night. #philosophyofart #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:52 PM EST
    I have common assessments for growth, but we don't do scales or anything like that, sorry I'm a little lost #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • JarvelaMused Jan 30 @ 8:52 PM EST
    pretty sure my school only uses the state standards since those are the ones that legally matter #musedchat
    In reply to @Boswell_Bill, @msmusiced
  • craigvogl Jan 30 @ 8:52 PM EST
    @jguarr I understand what you mean by standards based now, we are still on an a-f 4.0 scale #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • ImTheRealReRe Jan 30 @ 8:53 PM EST
    @jguarr exact number #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:54 PM EST
    We're basically doing the points grading but instead of giving one of 5 letters, they made 3 SBG. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused, @Boswell_Bill
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:55 PM EST
    There's a lot of confusion over here with our state standards. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused, @Boswell_Bill
  • msmusiced Jan 30 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Illinois Lots of music educators are upset about the absence of theory. #musedchat
    In reply to @Boswell_Bill, @JarvelaMused
  • theatreducate - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Signing off, so long fairwell....(I had to, please don't hate) #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Jan 30 @ 8:58 PM EST
    auf wiedersehen, goodbye! #musedchat
    In reply to @theatreducate