#ATchat Archive

#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.

Wednesday November 8, 2017
8:00 PM EST

  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #ATchat. We are excited to have @alysstets lead our discussion on prompting. Please let us know who you are and where you are from. @KarenJan can't be with us tonight, she is on her way to #DyslexiaCon17 so I will be here to help facilitate our 1st #280charcters chat
  • participatechat Nov 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #ATchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/LbdD5CgZib
  • EmilyGranieroAT Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    I'll be there too. Looking forward to meeting someo fo you #atchat
    In reply to @ATforEducation
  • Shaun_SLP Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    #ATchat Shaun from Calgary here! Hope to be for awhile.... Of course it's all up to the tiny human, per usual!
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Pete, Tech Dir from NJ. Excited to join tonight! #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    #atchat Tonight we talk prompt dependency and fading prompts to create independent use of AT, inspired by this article: https://t.co/hVrV5VVOru
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Randy, coming from Keller tx #atchat #edt5334
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Check out our #ATchat @flipgrid & tell us what excites you about our profession: Flipgrid link: https://t.co/S4e0EG7MY1
  • nina_pearsall Nov 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Nina, Supervisor of Student Services, NJ. #ATchat hello everyone!
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Kara from Royse City, TX! #edt5334 #atchat
  • TeacherTraveler Nov 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Jessica, graduate student from TX. Here to learn more about AT! #atchat #edci5334
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    looking forward to our discussion tonight! #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include #atchat hashtag
  • Shaun_SLP Nov 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Exciting topic! #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Jennifer from Tyler, TX! #atchat #edt5334
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    hey Randy. thx for joining us #ATchat
    In reply to @bruton_randy
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Q1 What are your current prompting methods? Are they working to build independence? #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    glad to have you. where in NJ? I am in Brick #Atchat
    In reply to @PCookTech
  • wernedat Nov 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    hey there…Elisa from FL #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @alysstets, @KarenJan
  • The_app_guide Nov 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    John O'Sullivan Chelmsford High School Librarian and Assistive technology Specialist #ATChat
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    @christinebinkl3 MS/HS MDS teacher who encourages daily AT use by Ss. Looking for to new ideas on implementation & support #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @alysstets, @KarenJan, @christinebinkl3
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Pequannock, up in Morris County. :) @mmatp #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    hi Nina. glad you are here. where in NJ? I am in Brick #ATchat
    In reply to @nina_pearsall
  • Shaun_SLP Nov 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    #ATchat uh oh @mmatp found somebody else from NJ...
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1: Currently using a communication of Vis, Ver and T modeling for new use #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    nice! looking forward to running into you at a local event #ATchat
    In reply to @PCookTech
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat Tyler, Texas
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
    :) I found a few! We are taking over #Atchat
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
    A1 Haven't been directly in the field for a bit now, but errorless with a least to most hierarchy. #atchat
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1 Honestly, I'm not sure exactly what you mean for prompting #atchat #edt5334
  • Shaun_SLP Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #ATchat A1) whatever is the least evasive prompt for a given student. As soon as some motor consistency is there, I begin pulling back level
  • supervxn Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Good morning from Israel! I'm Noa, a sci T. #ATchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #atchat Are you seeing growth towards independence? Or prompt dependency?
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Hi! Sorry I’m late- just got back from the gym- Hillary from Maine! A1: Prompts are dependent on baseline data which determines least to most or most to least. #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #atchat Are you seeing growth towards independence? Or prompt dependency?
    In reply to @christinebinkl3
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Same here #ATchat
    In reply to @PCookTech
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Good morning Noa! So happy to have you here. #ATchat
    In reply to @supervxn
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Nicole from CREC's AT Team in Hartford CT here! #ATchat
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1 Here to learn. Sorry I don't have an answer to share. Is it safe to say I struggle with prompting my own children at home...constantly! #atchat #edt5334
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    #atchat Here's a reference for considering prompting:
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Do you have to use physical guidance, gestures, verbal, modeling, or point cue? Visuals? #ATChat
    In reply to @bruton_randy
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: least to most method! #edt5334 #atchat
  • TeacherTraveler Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Jessica from TX #edt5334 #atchat
  • supervxn Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    glad to be here. reading https://t.co/ByeQeKAj0P to catch up. Not a Native English speaker so just making sure what 'prompting' is... #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    #atchat Are you seeing growth towards independence? Or prompt dependency?
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP
  • nina_pearsall Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 Work through a prompt hierarchy from least to most assistance. Cold probe to see where the prompt level is at the start of a session and continue to fade. #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #atchat Are you seeing growth towards independence? Or prompt dependency?
    In reply to @hillavee
  • TeacherTraveler Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    I'm new to AT. Can anyone explain prompting? #edt5334 #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #atchat Are you seeing growth towards independence? Or prompt dependency?
    In reply to @nina_pearsall
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #ATchat depends on motivation. Currently have an S using an AAC with Lamp she is flying with a ton of new words just added due to Mastery👏
    In reply to @alysstets
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1. Often use Light & Binger's least to most prompting hierarchy to promote independent AAC use -#ATchat
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Thank you. That helps. #edt5334 #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • Shaun_SLP Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #atchat generally a growth towards independence... I find this quite tricky with ASD kiddos tho as the dependency gets established fast
    In reply to @alysstets
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: least to most! #edt5334 #atchat
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    @alysstets Prompt dependency is an error, no? Taught bc latency is tolerated and then the "prompt" is actually EC #atchat
  • MsBrittanyHall Nov 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Brittany, an undergrad student in Michigan hoping to learn more about assistive tech. #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    #ATchat What do you when there is low motivation?
    In reply to @christinebinkl3
  • supervxn Nov 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Can't read the text in the squares. #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat A1) I am not currently using prompting methods at this point in my general ed. class. Excited to learn about them, though.
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Q2 Describe strategies to systematically fade prompts. Are they successful? Are students stuck/reliant on prompting? #atchat
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A mix of both. Some came to us with prompt dependency. Great question! #ATChat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    I would define a prompt as a support added to instruction to assist the learner in garnering success....very broadly #atchat
    In reply to @TeacherTraveler
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Do u have link for info? #ATchat
    In reply to @CREC_ATech
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #ATchat awesome perspective here! So how do we avoid reinforcing latency?
    In reply to @PCookTech
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2 from a general ed perspective, I believe students are definitely reliant on prompting. #atchat #edt5334
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    #ATchat I bet you ARE using them...you just don't know you are 😉
    In reply to @pettytr1
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: Following task analysis helps to analyze the data, fade as prescribed, adjust as needed, and keeps programming consistent. #atchat
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    I believe that a use a combination of all of those. I would say mostly modeling #atchat #edt5334
    In reply to @hillavee
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    https://t.co/FU4Dmn7qle #atchat this is a good start and here is the book https://t.co/HGpJ4yJc7l
    In reply to @christinebinkl3
  • lrdichiara Nov 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Leslie from LI, NY jumping in late! #ATchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    #atchat Does anyone use a prompting task analysis like this one Published by Emiliano Porten to strategically address prompt fading?
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat A2) As a student needs less prompting, you gradually remove the additional support.
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: have S stuck between Vis/Ver with issues with focus. Any ideas? #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    #ATchat modeling is a HUGE strategy and has gained a ton more attention lately!
    In reply to @bruton_randy, @hillavee
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Q2. See a lot of prompt dependence, try to often create visual supports so that Ts can fade VERBAL prompts the most - easiest to give, hardest to take away! #atchat
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2 Would much rather see prompts faded up to the minimum required than need to be faded out! #atchat
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2 To a degree, we are all dependent on prompts...clock, coffee (!!), school bells, growling stomach, etc. Not making light, just chiming in with my limited knowledge. #atchat #etd5334
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    #ATchat What criteria do you use to determine if a student is ready for fading prompts?
    In reply to @hillavee
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    I teach a few engineering courses and it is definitely what I use most #atchat #edt5334
    In reply to @alysstets, @hillavee
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    #ATchat - looks like a great resource
    In reply to @alysstets
  • nina_pearsall Nov 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Q2 If students do become dependent, continue to fade prompts and shape the targeted response #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    #ATchat YES! We would consider those the natural/environmental prompts. It's the additional prompts that we want to eliminate to build independence.
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Pretty simply... act more quickly! Don't provide a chance for the latency to become the behavior! @alysstets #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    🤣🤣🤣 Great connection! #ATChat
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Very true! It's just not a good thing when Ss become reliant on other humans for success! The goal for AT and intervention should be always striving for independence! #atchat
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • nina_pearsall Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2 If a student becomes dependent on a prompt level, continue to fade the prompts while shaping the response #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    YES! Well said. Always strive for independence #Atchat
    • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
      Very true! It's just not a good thing when Ss become reliant on other humans for success! The goal for AT and intervention should be always striving for independence! #atchat
      In reply to @furrjenn
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    #atchat Here is another resource that is helpful in planning prompt reduction: Complete Guide For Using Prompts To Teach Individuals With Special Needs https://t.co/ABcTbaa18f
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2 To a degree, we are all dependent on prompts...clock, coffee (!!), school bells, growling stomach, etc. Not making light, just chiming in with my limited knowledge. #atchat #edt5334
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Exactly. #ATChat
    In reply to @CREC_ATech, @furrjenn
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Q3 How do you address too much verbal prompting? #atchat
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    #atchat Wait time has been a focus in my classroom currently. Staff r quick to jump in, but R doing better with reminders
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Those are actually stimuli conditioned to elicit responses... @furrjenn #atchat
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    The stimuli is the alarm clock going off. The prompt is mom coming in saying get out of bed. @furrjenn #atchat
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    The question is how do we fade mom out of the picture? :) @furrjenn #atchat
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    yes so critical! especially for communication and AAC - a 10 sec wait time can feel like forever for an adult, but can be the difference between success and confusion for a student! #atchat
    In reply to @christinebinkl3, @furrjenn
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3: Visuals. Or eliminate verbal prompts as part of the task altogether aside from the initial cue. #atchat
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3 Try to add elements that students would pick up on instead of verbal #atchat #edt5334
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A2: adding more visual prompts rather than verbal. To redirect as needed #edt5334 #atchat
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Q3. Visuals 4 sure and coming up with a protocol that the whole team agrees upon - all using it and training each other - whole team buys in to hierarchy and practices using it - we've slathered classroom walls with hierarchy posters! #atchat
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3 Verbal prompts should only be given if you use them when you do the task. If talking to urself looks crazy so is the prompt #atchat
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Most forget that many of our students have processing speeds between 50-100. 50 will still get you there- just takes longer. Patience is tough but necessary. #ATChat
    In reply to @christinebinkl3, @furrjenn
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3: adding visuals to take away too many verbal prompts! #edt5334 #atchat
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Got it! I'm coming with a music teacher's background where every gesture of my hand means something. I even use chords on the piano to give cues. To an extent though, I am doing the opposite and teaching my Ss to be dependent on me. Kinda have to... #atchat #edt5334
    In reply to @CREC_ATech
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    #atchat Never underestimate the value of a good, exaggerated anticipatory prompt and waiting! https://t.co/GSpNHIOLq8
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Patience is sometimes the hardest part for staff. Just when you think you waited long enough....wait a little longer!! #Atchat
    In reply to @hillavee, @christinebinkl3, @furrjenn
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    #ATchat haha- I love the way you are thinking of this...humorously makes sense!
    In reply to @PCookTech
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #atchat I would agree visuals and gestures
    In reply to @CREC_ATech
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Going to #atia18 Make sure to join us Fri. night for @edcampAccessInt & Sat for AT Maker Event @at_makers #ATchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    #atchat Never underestimate the value of a good, exaggerated anticipatory prompt and waaaaaaaiiiiiittttttiiiiiiinnnnnngggg.....
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat I totally agree with wait time and visuals when necessary. Patience is hard but necessary.
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    YES! #atchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
      Patience is sometimes the hardest part for staff. Just when you think you waited long enough....wait a little longer!! #Atchat
      In reply to @hillavee, @christinebinkl3, @furrjenn
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    LOL - we call that an "expectant delay" #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Have to laugh. :) But it brings it home--this is serious stuff. @nina_pearsall mentioned the Cosby Jeffrey sketch @alysstets #atchat
    In reply to @nina_pearsall, @alysstets
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Q4 Do you ever experience personnel defensiveness or making excuses for prompt dependency? Describe. #atchat
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4 I find myself guilty of prompt dependency when I am trying to guide a lesson. I fail sometimes to wait for the Ss to take the wheel #atchat #edt5334
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    #atchat.... different names, same strategy....but SO effective!
    In reply to @CREC_ATech
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    #atchat currently using boardmaker & lessonpixs for visuals. Does anyone use anything else for making visuals?
    In reply to @CREC_ATech
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A3 Again, going back to my music directing. (Sorry) I have to teach my Ss to read my gestures and nonverbal cues. They have to learn my gestures gradually as I add to their "vocabulary." We work at it constantly. #atchat #edt5334
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4: Nooooooo....Never..... #atchat
  • wernedat Nov 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    we’ve used something like this to collect data across settings… #ATChat
    In reply to @christinebinkl3, @alysstets
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Q4.when teaching a least to most prompting hierarchy, it can be super hard for staff to reduce verbal prompts so to support them, we always model first, show them we make mistakes, then they practice with guided feedback, then follow up - helps reduce challenges #atchat
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Love this! I loved directing. It is an art form. #ATChat
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    #ATchat We all do this at some point! We get busy and into bad habits--- hurry up! Cover ALL the material! So-- what tips does the group have for managing your own T prompting behavior?
    • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
      A4 I find myself guilty of prompt dependency when I am trying to guide a lesson. I fail sometimes to wait for the Ss to take the wheel #atchat #edt5334
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
    those are the gold standards for me - sometimes will create a support with pics in symbolsupport app and print #atchat
    In reply to @christinebinkl3
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4 I like to take myself out of the picture sometimes and have the class Ss driven. #atchat #edt5334
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Follow the link to catch up on every #ATchat from this year: https://t.co/3Cx35PccqB Enjoy!
  • wernedat Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    I was just gonna say SymbolStix (if that’s what is in their AAC system) and/or real pics if it isn’t “symbolizable” #ATChat
    In reply to @CREC_ATech, @christinebinkl3
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4: I would have to agree verbal prompting is one of my weaknesses! I get caught up in the objective in a short class time. Any tips? #edt5334 #atchat
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Like dance! That's why I'm so skinny...Haha...not! #atchat #edt5334
    In reply to @hillavee
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    #atchat @ATClosingTheGap 2011: Prompting- A Cautionary Tale https://t.co/HKx01Hecc4
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat I can see where it would be so easy to make excuses for the prompt dependency. We have to keep the goal in mind as we teach.
  • nina_pearsall Nov 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4 I believe people over prompt because they want the student to be successful. We need to bring it back to the shared vision of independence for our students. #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Q5 Do you have, and if so, how do you handle student frustration when prompts are faded?#atchat
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4: yes. Try to make sure I have a strategy to encourage others to use and model for staff. That helps #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • Texaslifeskills Nov 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4 cont). I give a talk to all general education teachers at beginning of the year to NOT prompt in any way until you see they can’t do it independently. Don’t assume. Wait and watch.#atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    #atchat sing it loud and proud!
    In reply to @nina_pearsall
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5 I find that student lead class discussion really cuts through the frustration. Also, allowing students to work together to work though to the solution #atchat #edt5334
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Check out our #ATchat @flipgrid & tell us what excites you about our profession: Flipgrid link: https://t.co/S4e0EG7MY1
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5 Patience and waiting, I suppose. The payoff for the student is when they realize they did it themselves. Celebrate their independence! #atchat #edt5334
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    I'm having difficulty with students "shutting down" when starting to pull back prompts; working through that with great challenges to patience-TBH #atchat
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat Most definitely only use prompts as needed and when necessary. Independence is the goal. Don’t assume one needs them. Assume they don’t until you know for sure.
  • Texaslifeskills Nov 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A5) For our population this year, wait time and an extra breath is a big factor in alleviating frustration, as well as reducing quantity of work per concept. #atchat
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5 We see this in gened classrooms all the time, esp with #ngss. Nobody likes when things get harder. REINFORCE more frequently! #atchat
  • nina_pearsall Nov 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5 Shape the behavior- reinforce student effort and model correct response. Continue to fade through the prompt level. #atchat
  • KellyFonner Nov 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A4 #ATchat just catching up on promoting discussion- I find that scripting can be helpful
    In reply to @CREC_ATech
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    #ATchat do you have any examples you can share with the group?
    In reply to @KellyFonner, @CREC_ATech
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: I use the Tony Little method of encouragement: “You Can Do It!” #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    #ATchat I always remind Ss and Ts that's it's about the PROCESS....not just "getting it done to get it done". No races.
    In reply to @Texaslifeskills
  • The_app_guide Nov 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I am giving a Webinar for the Center On Technology and Disability called Giving Instant Feedback to Disabled Students with Technology to Create Engagement and Motivation on 12/7 at 4pm https://t.co/5EzHCmpEVz #atchat #SLPspedchat #UDLchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Q6 What methods are successful to address staff prompting behavior? #atchat
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
    https://t.co/4H6N31FxrP here's a link to Light & Binger's adapted hierarchy we use for teams often #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @KellyFonner
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A6 I like to practice a different simple strategy every six weeks. I really focus on it and eventually it becomes second nature #atchat #edt5334
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    ❤️ that this one page. Not overwhelming #atchat
    In reply to @CREC_ATech, @alysstets, @KellyFonner
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A6 even something simple as taking a little longer breath in between questions. #atchat #edt5334
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A6 Interobserver reliability always helps... if you can video staff and review together even better. Easier seen than said. #atchat
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5: allowing students to talk with their peers help bridge that gap #edt5334 #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Did you see how much fun @alysstets had leading the discussion tonight!! Don’t forget-we are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form: https://t.co/wUQEjDPamL #ATchat
  • KellyFonner Nov 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    #ATchat AbleNet University series of free webinars showing least to most strategies with data collection. Search ECT, CEP or me
    In reply to @alysstets
  • Texaslifeskills Nov 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A6) As much modeling as possible! And ...believe it or not, I send YouTube videos for staff to watch. #atchat
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    #atchat We definitely do not do this enough! This is such a good way to reflect on our own behaviors.
    In reply to @PCookTech
  • nina_pearsall Nov 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6 I agree with @PCookTech that self-assessment through video recording can be helpful. #atchat
  • MrsWilliamsRCMS Nov 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: modeling and sharing best practices! #edt5334 #atchat
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Absolutely! First time I did I was convinced it was someone else... nobody says "uh" that much in a lesson! @alysstets #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat A6) Modeling makes sense, and I could easily follow Youtube videos as well.
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    it's used in addition to other strategies such as aided language stimulation, etc. #atchat
    In reply to @christinebinkl3, @alysstets, @KellyFonner
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    here is a link to @KellyFonner @AbleNetInc U webinars. https://t.co/pIhAq2hf75 #ATchat
    • KellyFonner Nov 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
      #ATchat AbleNet University series of free webinars showing least to most strategies with data collection. Search ECT, CEP or me
      In reply to @alysstets
  • KellyFonner Nov 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Q6 #ATchat staff can gain consistency supported thru training, coaching, mentoring, video
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    This was something I found effective and was able to fade; posted at the beginning of class for each "course" and reviewed with Ss and paras #atchat
  • hillavee Nov 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: collaborative observations to improve practice. #atchat
  • KellyFonner Nov 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    #ATchat also check out examples from PatiKingdeBaun on Creative Communicating
    In reply to @christinebinkl3
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Q7 As we conclude, what other ideas/resources do you have to address prompt dependency and fading of prompt salience? #atchat
  • furrjenn Nov 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6 "Hold up a mirror." In other words, video a class so the staff can see themselves in action. They'd probably be surprised at what they saw. #atchat #edt5334
  • christinebinkl3 Nov 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    #atchat great resource. thanks
    In reply to @KellyFonner, @alysstets
  • alysstets Nov 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Attending #ATIA2018? Join me and @mps21364 from @AbleNetInc to Re-evaluate your edu.enviro for maximizing access #atchat
  • CREC_ATech Nov 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Q7. Trying to take data on where humans are prompting the student - then, work with the team to determine if there are tools the student can use in place of that prompt to promote independence. #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s #ATchat tomorrow morning
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A7 Check out the concept of errorless teaching if not familiar: https://t.co/gs4I0jkytB #atchat
  • pettytr1 Nov 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    #edt5334 #ATchat Thanks for an informative chat! I enjoyed it.
  • KellyFonner Nov 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    #ATchat when using video,make sure 2have a feedback process in place that’s connected to the teaching strategies that u r training
    In reply to @furrjenn
  • PCookTech Nov 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thanks everyone for a great chat tonight! Enjoyed the topic! Remember to follow people whose ideas challenge or interest you! #atchat
  • bruton_randy Nov 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thank you for the chat and resources #atchat #edt5334
  • MsBrittanyHall Nov 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A1 I have been in classrooms where they have prompted by always using their devices even if the students do not use any words or their device. They seem to be working well for them. #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Make sure to follow everyone from today’s #atchat Let’s continue to learn and share!