#sunchat Archive
A weekly chat for educators from all around the world.
Sunday November 13, 2016
8:30 AM EST
bashaierk
Nov 13 @ 8:32 AM EST
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bashaierk
Nov 12 @ 10:52 AM EST
How to reflect on your teaching
#edchatMENA
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#satchat
MrSchoenbart
Nov 13 @ 8:32 AM EST
NEW POST: Students Reflect on Blended Discussion at
https://t.co/vEWOajzNcx
#sunchat
bashaierk
Nov 13 @ 8:33 AM EST
#sunchat
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bashaierk
Nov 12 @ 6:14 AM EST
My view of
#reflective_teaching
#edchatMENA
#satchat
NirtonBradley
Nov 13 @ 8:34 AM EST
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NirtonBradley
Nov 13 @ 8:34 AM EST
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#edchatMENA
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#sunchat
#creativity
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NirtonBradley
Nov 13 @ 8:34 AM EST
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#aussieED
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gtchatmod
Nov 13 @ 8:34 AM EST
New
#gtchat
#gifted
#talented
Poll! Vote today & join us next week!
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#TAGT
#NAGC
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#edchat
#sunchat
#txeduchat
rashidfdavis
Nov 13 @ 8:35 AM EST
Watch “Renewal Awards - P Tech” on
#Vimeo
https://t.co/thI0o0Mdq9
#sunchat
#SundayMorning
#innovation
#education
#economy
#jobs
#workforce
Mitty281
Nov 13 @ 8:36 AM EST
THIS IS WHY HE IS A LOSER. He makes a great "transition of power" speech & then stands by while they riot.
#sunchat
SNL "Plan Next Steps"
JackPosobiec
Nov 12 @ 7:14 PM EST
Hillary and Obama could go on TV any minute and ask for the riots to stop Yup anyyyyy minute
funder
Nov 13 @ 8:38 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties EXPOSED in
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/jl2lGDCA3m
KeepAmerGr8
Nov 13 @ 8:38 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties EXPOSED in
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/UBYAYUwjPl
ThorneColleen
Nov 13 @ 8:38 AM EST
#sunchat
Breaking911
Nov 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
Trump supporter arrives at anti-Trump protest in military-style truck in Indianapolis. (
@John_Tuohy
)
In reply to @John_Tuohy
markbarnes19
Nov 13 @ 8:39 AM EST
Did we miss a huge teaching moment during Election2016?
https://t.co/Os3fqUGXaw
#sunchat
@jamessturtevant
In reply to @jamessturtevant
bulldogfinance
Nov 13 @ 8:39 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties EXPOSED in
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
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trumpfnd
Nov 13 @ 8:39 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties EXPOSED in
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/QBJy3xSnpq
Deplorablefrog1
Nov 13 @ 8:39 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties EXPOSED in
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/oTuYElvlaa
Deplorablefrog1
Nov 13 @ 8:39 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties Are In The
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/oTuYElvlaa
trumpfnd
Nov 13 @ 8:40 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties Are In The
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/QBJy3xSnpq
Mitty281
Nov 13 @ 8:40 AM EST
THERE IT IS...
#DaveChappelle
did far more to calm fears than our own POTUS. ❤️ U DAVE
#SNL
#sunchat
"Plan Next Steps"
#CheerMeUpIn3Words
juliansage
Nov 13 @ 2:53 AM EST
#DaveChappelle
's ENTIRE
#SNL
opening monologue. ESSENTIAL viewing. Watch before it gets taken off....
https://t.co/zbSCku6JxJ
mguhlin
Nov 13 @ 8:40 AM EST
MT
#sunchat
.
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via
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bashaierk
Nov 13 @ 8:33 AM EST
#sunchat
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bashaierk
Nov 12 @ 6:14 AM EST
My view of
#reflective_teaching
#edchatMENA
#satchat
bulldogfinance
Nov 13 @ 8:40 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties Are In The
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/T0LTGnSafG
bashaierk
Nov 13 @ 8:40 AM EST
Share ur thoughts with
#edchatMENA
slowchat great discussion on
#reflective_teaching
started Sat and still ongoing
#edchat
#sunchat
KeepAmerGr8
Nov 13 @ 8:40 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties Are In The
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/UBYAYUwjPl
funder
Nov 13 @ 8:40 AM EST
Trumps Russia Ties Are In The
#DworkinReport
#SundayMorning
#AMJoy
#CNNSOTU
#thisweek
#MTP
#reiders
#snl
#sunchat
https://t.co/jl2lGDCA3m
MrsVandeborne
Nov 13 @ 8:41 AM EST
Join
#fitnessEDU
chat - chasing ur dreams! Sun 7pm EST -Your Glory Days- The present, not the past!
https://t.co/5KcWCeamgU
#sunchat
ThorneColleen
Nov 13 @ 8:48 AM EST
#sunchat
#SundayMorning
xBenJamminx
Nov 12 @ 10:32 AM EST
For those people who think the
#TrumpRiot
is organic, and not paid for. I present to you nationwide craigslist ads paying $1,500 for rioters
rashidfdavis
Nov 13 @ 8:52 AM EST
#PTECH
9-14 Early
#college
&
#Career
#schools
#sunchat
#WeekendReading
#HackLearning
#EDspaces
#service
#kindness
https://t.co/ytInAQjoZU
ThorneColleen
Nov 13 @ 8:52 AM EST
#SundayMorning
#sunchat
#makemehappyin3words
Soros in Jail
WDFx2EU8
Nov 12 @ 6:41 PM EST
Video that
@GeorgeSoros
doesn't want you to see, 60 mins interview from 1990s uncovered. Soros confiscated property from Jews in 1940s
nalang1
Nov 13 @ 8:57 AM EST
Growth requires that we seek opportunities to change our perspective.
#sunchat
#hacklearning
#education
#divergED
plearnchat
Nov 13 @ 8:57 AM EST
Setting the Stage for a Future Ready Personal Learning Plan (PLP)
#NHCMTC16
w
@khmmc
on Nov 29!
https://t.co/OAjV0HQjU7
#sunchat
#edchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 8:57 AM EST
Thanks
@cherandpete
for the great
#hacklearning
chat. Come join us over at
#sunchat
in 3 mins to talk standardized testing. Do we need it?
In reply to @cherandpete
TheRightMelody
Nov 13 @ 8:58 AM EST
#SundayMorning
#sunchat
#makemehappyin3words
God Bless America
#MAGA
ThorneColleen
Nov 13 @ 8:59 AM EST
#SundayMorning
#sunchat
#thisweek
trumpsterMG
Jul 31 @ 7:35 AM EDT
#Trump
is living proof of this!
participatelrn
Nov 13 @ 8:59 AM EST
#sunchat
is coming right up! Participate in the conversation at
https://t.co/IEGMCfAARe
#CollaborativePD
ConnellySue
Nov 13 @ 9:00 AM EST
I have banana bread w choc chips this morning. Glad to be here this morning.
#connection
#sunchat
#spiritchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:00 AM EST
Good morning, educators! Today, we are talking about standardized testing: the good, the bad, and the ugly. Welcome to
#sunchat
!
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:00 AM EST
#grateful
for opportunity
#sunchat
#makemehappyin3words
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:01 AM EST
Good Sunday morning, everyone! I'm Mike, and ESL and HS English teacher in TN.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:01 AM EST
Good morning
#sunchat
Starr from NY co-moderator and author, HS English teacher and teacher coach
Ms_A_Yeh
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Hi
#sunchat
, I'm a music teacher in CO and glad to be here this morning!
5StarStudents
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Good morning
#sunchat
. Toshila, JH AP, joining from Texas.
inspire0818
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Good morning everyone! Hope everyone's good! Jace from NJ...4th grade ELA
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Welcome, Mike! Good to have you this morning at
#sunchat
.
In reply to @mike_stein33
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Hello all! Susan from the Jersey Shore. Great topic today!
#sunchat
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Greetings! Amy from MI here. Middle school band teacher.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
In my humble opinion there is nothing good about Standardized tests because there is nothing "standard" about children
#sunchat
MsClabo
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Good morning
#sunchat
Tammy Clabo Literacy Coach Raleigh NC
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:02 AM EST
Beginning w/ the +: The WiDA test for ESL gives accurate descriptors of what Ss can and can't do in language acquisition. Helpful!
#sunchat
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
I'm making one of these as soon as I'm off this
#sunchat
! Yummy!
ConnellySue
Nov 13 @ 9:00 AM EST
I have banana bread w choc chips this morning. Glad to be here this morning.
#connection
#sunchat
#spiritchat
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Good morning
#sunchat
, Dennis from Long Island, NY...
HillMrispo
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
#sunchat
Michele Hill from NJ
PattyJLandKent
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Good Morning! I am Patty, a student from Kent State
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
If we moved to a portfolio, non-graded system, we can see the unique and wonderful qualities and challenges of every child
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Top of the morning to you
#sunchat
! Tiffany Truitt, co-moderator and Literacy Support Specialist, chiming in from VA!
WritersUSA
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
OHara_HPS : Good morning
#sunchat
, Dennis from Long Island, NY... Get
#university
personal statements and
#admissi
…
https://t.co/Ah2EYJsOyY
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Standardized tests are culturally biased and don't even do what they are supposed to do. They create undue stress and competition
#sunchat
LeeAraoz
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Good morning,
#sunchat
I'm Lee, an instructional technology coach and staff developer from NY.
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Good morning Amy. So glad you could join us this morning on
#sunchat
In reply to @AmyLynnRever
katlalex
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Morning! Kathy, MS IC from Kyle, TX!
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Always good to see you joining the
#sunchat
session, Aubrey!
In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
so glad you could join us this morning Mike on
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
I have thought the same thing. Who would evaluate the portfolio?
@mssackstein
#sunchat
In reply to @mssackstein
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Thanks for being a member of the team Susan
#sunchat
In reply to @susankotch
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
SS from IN! What is the topic again?
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Thanks for the great topic idea, Tiffany and for being a part of the team
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Good morning Jace and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @inspire0818
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Any time Amy joins
#sunchat
, it's music to our ears (sorry, very little sleep the past couple of weeks)
In reply to @AmyLynnRever
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Hi, I'm Lilly from Grove City College in PA. I'm a pre-service teacher.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Good morning Aubrey and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
jpsteltz
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Hi
#sunchat
, John, Lit Coach.
#OnWisconsin
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Good morning Dennis and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @OHara_HPS
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
The Noisy Room Down the Hall: Should the Arts be Standardized?
#sunchat
https://t.co/zLkQMjD40Z
DennisDill
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Standardized testing increase profits for test companies ... gives us a treasure trove of data after learning/teaching is done
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Good morning Susan and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @ConnellySue
ConnellySue
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Good morning. I am Sue from NH joining in with you for some
#inspiration
#connection
#sunchat
#spiritchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Hi
#sunchat
. I'm Brian. I teach MS Ss Eng in CO. In class, I give side-eye to formal testing, leaves me musing how 2 prep Ss for inevitable.
cherandpete
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
#sunchat
In reagards to standardized testing....
https://t.co/XGsIdOU7Yc
In reply to @mssackstein
cherandpete
Nov 1 @ 4:59 PM EDT
I'm only concerned about preparing my students for one test.....LIFE.
#SHARESEase
markbarnes19
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Have you seen
#hackinghomework
by
#sunchat
moderator
@mssackstein
? It changes everything
https://t.co/V4GjxuIMZ0
In reply to @mssackstein
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Jim Smith, Assessment and Data, from Minnesota, Lighthouse Learning Community
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:05 AM EST
Good morning Kevin and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
It doesn't evaluate the creativity of a student. Having had a job in "the real world", much of all jobs require creativity.
#bereal
#sunchat
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Standardized tests work with the inherent assumption that every S is standardized. Any T knows that's bunk!
#sunchat
TeamTomWaters
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Connect word study, author's craft, & reading response in guided reading.
https://t.co/gRKbj73NOz
#edchat
#guidedreading
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
it's do we need standardized testing
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Good morning Kathy and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @katlalex
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
The philosophy behind standardized testing was to protect our marginalized groups, but, sadly, they widen the achievement gap 1/3
#sunchat
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
But how accurate is this data? States put a lot of emphasis on it, but what does it really mean?
@DennisDill
#sunchat
In reply to @DennisDill
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
However, applying a growth mindset, & treating results as "where we are," instead of where we will stay helps with perspective.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Standardized tests are culturally biased and don't even do what they are supposed to do. They create undue stress and competition
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Good morning Dennis and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @WritersUSA
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Good morning Patty and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @PattyJLandKent
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Good morning Michele and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @HillMrispo
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:07 AM EST
Good morning Tammy and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @MsClabo
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:07 AM EST
Good morning Jim and welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy
AjmaniK
Nov 13 @ 9:07 AM EST
Welcome back :) RT
@ConnellySue
: Good morning. I am Sue from NH joining in with you for some
#inspiration
#connection
#sunchat
#spiritchat
In reply to @ConnellySue
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:07 AM EST
Any time education tries to judge with a one size fits all model it is missing the boat. This goes for Ts as much as Ss
#sunchat
DennisDill
Nov 13 @ 9:07 AM EST
as a SS not much ... an tell me if they know how to write/know answer, but not how they are thinking
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
Ms_A_Yeh
Nov 13 @ 9:07 AM EST
I'm not a huge fan of standardized tests, but curious what other ideas ppl have for accountability - a huge driving force for them!
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:07 AM EST
Fixed cut scores instead of growth-based indicators: testing focuses instruction on bubble students not failing students
#sunchat
2/2
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Guys, please tag your blogs to
#readmyteacherblog
. Let's help out all the newbies (and oldies) out there with your insight!
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Because of high stakes testing, the achievement gap widens and it hurts the very students it was meant to protect
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Agreed, but who says they HAVE to be a part of the experience? Are they serving students well now as they are being used?
#sunchat
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
However, applying a growth mindset, & treating results as "where we are," instead of where we will stay helps with perspective.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Standardized tests are culturally biased and don't even do what they are supposed to do. They create undue stress and competition
#sunchat
R_H_Steele
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Good morning
#EdSlowChat
family! Here is this week's question from
@courtneygmill
---
#SundayMorning
#sunchat
#leadupchat
#satchat
#edchat
bwinstonheath
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Hi
#sunchat
Bill superintendent in TN
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
True! Instead of putting all of the attention on the tests we need to work on closing the achievement gap.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Most Ts agree that current std. tests don't work but what's the alternative? States are not backing off of measuring growth.
#sunchat
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
We have let stand. test replace the necessary and effective work of classroom assessment.
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
The philosophy behind standardized testing was to protect our marginalized groups, but, sadly, they widen the achievement gap 1/3
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Perhaps a set of skills, but how they look when kids use them maybe not?
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson
KymHarjes
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Kym from Hopewell hoping to jump in on
#sunchat
what is today's topic?
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
it would be ideal, just a lot more work for folks assessing them
#sunchat
In reply to @inspire0818
dalichwer
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
Doug- MS librarian from central Pa. good morning
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
It's a good question... a committee of people?
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
Value seen in normative data from testing, yet learning rarely seems like normed process. What of growth in current vs. prior self?
#sunchat
BeuckelareNic
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
Good Morning from chilly Southwestern Ontario! I'm Nicole, a seconcdary progam consultant.
#sunchat
PMcPeake1
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
As a parent I don't put much weight on them. As for stress my S stresses over any type assessment . Working on life skills for that.
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
We need standards and testing, but need to change way we test. Growth-based all the way! Only way to ensure ALL students learn.
#sunchat
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
However, applying a growth mindset, & treating results as "where we are," instead of where we will stay helps with perspective.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Standardized tests are culturally biased and don't even do what they are supposed to do. They create undue stress and competition
#sunchat
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
Today's topic is standardized testing...is it needed?
#sunchat
In reply to @KymHarjes
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
But why don't decision-makers know that? That's scary to me.
#sunchat
Now, it's job justification. Even scarier.
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Standardized tests work with the inherent assumption that every S is standardized. Any T knows that's bunk!
#sunchat
PattyJLandKent
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
I think I missed the first question. Could you repeat?
#sunchat
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
Morning everyone. Ryan from IL,
#STEAM
teacher and manager of campus tech. Taking quick dissertation break.
#sunchat
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
Wesley from Virginia - social studies teacher
#sunchat
massignmenthelp
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
How to make good impression in first day of college
https://t.co/4DYTb3Dv2s
#sunchat
AssignmentHelpN
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
Top 5 e-Learning & EdTech Trends
https://t.co/b3ULdkMAce
#sunchat
DennisDill
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
I am SS ... my kids skill deficit is they can't think as they are too busy trying to find the answer in the passage.
#sunchat
In reply to @MsClabo
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
No, but we have to be sure to help students see they are not a permanent label. It's up to us to help Ss see their potential
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
Agreed, but who says they HAVE to be a part of the experience? Are they serving students well now as they are being used?
#sunchat
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
However, applying a growth mindset, & treating results as "where we are," instead of where we will stay helps with perspective.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:03 AM EST
Standardized tests are culturally biased and don't even do what they are supposed to do. They create undue stress and competition
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
Which will never happen till tests are growth based. Too much focus on bubble students with fixed cut scores.
#sunchat
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
True! Instead of putting all of the attention on the tests we need to work on closing the achievement gap.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
After does little to impact learning or achievement - too late. Focus must be on formative assessment.
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33, @DennisDill
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
I have never seen or met a test I liked.Never thought, "hmmm, this is a good test! Wish I was taking it"!
#sunchat
#sarcasm
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
So proud to be a part of this team!
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:04 AM EST
Thanks for the great topic idea, Tiffany and for being a part of the team
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:10 AM EST
I'm not a big fan of standardized tests but I am curious as to how we can fix them.
#sunchat
PattyJLandKent
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
I think it is a necessary evil. We need a baseline and see if there is improvement.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
I agree, but there are many ways to do this without a test, no?
#sunchat
In reply to @OHara_HPS
LearnWithHynes
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
Hello I am Theodore a student teacher in Detroit.
@KaitPopielarz
as a sub saw MSTEPS invade learning. Weeks spent on taking test
#sunchat
In reply to @KaitPopielarz
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
Amen to that!
#sunchat
In reply to @mssackstein
PMcPeake1
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
My S will know the material but not how to answer the question. I always have to explain how it's worded.
#sunchat
LeeAraoz
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
Qualities Not Measured by Standardized Tests
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
Testing, as currently conceived, as reminder of persistent gaps that need renewed attention or reinforcer of them?
#sunchat
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
True! Instead of putting all of the attention on the tests we need to work on closing the achievement gap.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
VA in the house! Welcome to
#sunchat
!
In reply to @wehedge
jpsteltz
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
For educators, the only useful purpose of a standardized test is that it produces standardized data...
#sunchat
1/2
5StarStudents
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
We need testing, but we have to change the one size fits all to determine mastery and success.
#sunchat
PattyJLandKent
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
There are too many standardized tests given.
#sunchat
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
How about PBL?
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
When it comes time for state testing in NY. I rush to see the exam to see what it is testing and whether it is relevant
#sunchat
jameswren1975
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
Focus everything on compassion and communication first...build the rest around it
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
Most standardized test are created by testing companies not educators
#sunchat
There is a MAJOR disconnect.
#sunchat
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
But why don't decision-makers know that? That's scary to me.
#sunchat
Now, it's job justification. Even scarier.
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Standardized tests work with the inherent assumption that every S is standardized. Any T knows that's bunk!
#sunchat
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
Good point!
#sunchat
In reply to @PattyJLandKent
coachjmsmith
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
These high stake tests have turned more student off than on to education and what learning is all about!
#sunchat
inspire0818
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
I always thought if we have to test, we should test in the Fall and late Spring to measure progress
#sunchat
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
Ugh, MSTEP. I always feel like I need to apologize to students as I'm proctoring.
#sunchat
In reply to @LearnWithHynes, @KaitPopielarz
poida
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
💡 "We really don't know what students can do on their own until we get out of their way"
https://t.co/SN97DTamHQ
HT
@beyondtech1
#sunchat
In reply to @beyondtech1
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
I'd love to pick your brain about
#STEAM
someday. Huge advocate here. Welcome to
#sunchat
In reply to @Ryan7Read
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
totally agree... that's why schools must seek to offer more of these experiences, not testing
#sunchat
teachjanderson
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
sadly, skills/content aside, I wish all Ss had a standardized set of experiences (read to at home, travel, museums, etc).
In reply to @mssackstein
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
I completely agree w/closing achievement gap, but most std. test r set up for minorities to score lower in 1st place
@brianrozinsky
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
madthomasd
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
SS are damaged by the amount of testing. 20 yrs ago never had this amount of test anxiety
@markbarnes19
#pluggedinclass
#sunchat
In reply to @markbarnes19
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
I guess I can see how seeing their writing is a good thing, but isn't their thinking just as important?
#sunchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @mike_stein33
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
thanks! Richmond here
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
katlalex
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
What if timing was changed? Not at end of year so they might measure retention and growth not just that years learning?
#sunchat
DennisDill
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
We are spending so much time standardizing that differentiation is just a word we use to sound cool.
#sunchat
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
Stan. tests can look at system accountability. Want to increase learning - focus on the formative use of assessment.
#sunchat
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
We agree. I'm saying we can/need to help Ss see what they can be regardless of what test says.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
I agree, but there are many ways to do this without a test, no?
#sunchat
In reply to @OHara_HPS
jpsteltz
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
Standardized tests are a common, unfair measurable that measures what Ss remember, not growth or complete understanding
#sunchat
KymHarjes
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
I believe in a balanced approach to education...in both instruction & assessment...one test can not and should not define a learner
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
They reinforce them. All the way. Whether intentional of not.
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:11 AM EST
Testing, as currently conceived, as reminder of persistent gaps that need renewed attention or reinforcer of them?
#sunchat
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:08 AM EST
True! Instead of putting all of the attention on the tests we need to work on closing the achievement gap.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
I'd love to see an assessment that can be taken anytime the S is ready to advance to next level.Learn at own pace, advance same way
#sunchat
GodBlessUSA316
Nov 13 @ 9:13 AM EST
#SundayMorning
#sunchat
Dems OnTrack 2Lose More Elections
https://t.co/sLUR5GwsHk
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
no problem. I'm trying to figure some things out for tomorrow's new rotation.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
I love PBL, and use
#geniushour
in my classroom, but it isn't a sustainable statewide model.
@wehedge
#sunchat
In reply to @wehedge
dalichwer
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
Not a big fan of "the test" either. Seems all we do is teach to it.
#sunchat
madthomasd
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
Nobody goes to a Dr's hoping to get endless tests without a diagnosis
@markbarnes19
#pluggedinclass
#sunchat
In reply to @markbarnes19
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
I think this is a great idea! It would relieve some of the pressure and it would focus on growth.
#sunchat
In reply to @katlalex
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
Another issue is that the "standardized" tests seem to keep changing targets. Makes any use of data difficult in long run.
#sunchat
KymHarjes
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
There is a place for many types of assessment...it's what we do with the results that count...how will they inform our instruction?
#sunchat
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
I'm working on an
#ungeniushour
pre-assessment right now.
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33, @wehedge
DennisDill
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
writing shows end result of their thinking. not necessarily how they got there. better than mult-choice.
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs, @mike_stein33
cybraryman1
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
My Standardized Tests page
https://t.co/1mywY7MviY
has
@mssackstein
What makes a good test? Assessments pg
https://t.co/Q06pwggJjD
#sunchat
In reply to @mssackstein
HillMrispo
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
#sunchat
I want to be this teacher! Exemplary!!
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
Or to exclude them from learning. Focus will be on those " able to pass". Ss multiple grade levels behind will stay that way
#sunchat
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
I completely agree w/closing achievement gap, but most std. test r set up for minorities to score lower in 1st place
@brianrozinsky
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
bwinstonheath
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
Too many motivations for testing- some want to see how well we're tching standards, others for Profit, other to force school choice
#sunchat
LearnWithHynes
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
It looks like a punishment. I agree! Draining and sadly no student is motivated afterwards
#sunchat
In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @KaitPopielarz
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
BAMM Classroom assessments built and scored in collab can outperform std tests - plus much more authentic.
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
Most standardized test are created by testing companies not educators
#sunchat
There is a MAJOR disconnect.
#sunchat
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:09 AM EST
But why don't decision-makers know that? That's scary to me.
#sunchat
Now, it's job justification. Even scarier.
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:06 AM EST
Standardized tests work with the inherent assumption that every S is standardized. Any T knows that's bunk!
#sunchat
PMcPeake1
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
Standardized testing is helping to create the robot like thinking we're trying to get away from.
#sunchat
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
Yes! Students are more than just a test score!
#sunchat
In reply to @HillMrispo
DennisDill
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
although the endless tests/diagnostics is where the money is.
#sunchat
In reply to @madthomasd, @markbarnes19
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
I love this idea. Much more individualized. What would that look like state or nationwide?
#sunchat
In reply to @susankotch
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
Great point! The implications go far deeper than just poor tests.
#sunchat
In reply to @susankotch
jpsteltz
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
So true!
#sunchat
HillMrispo
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
#sunchat
I want to be this teacher! Exemplary!!
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
Agreed. Where's sweet spot of personalizing & sensing system-wide effectiveness (class/school/district/state/nation)?
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:16 AM EST
My mind is blown! Please explain an
#ungeniushour
pre-assessment.
@Ryan7Read
@wehedge
#sunchat
In reply to @Ryan7Read, @wehedge
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:16 AM EST
In VA our history assessment is PBL based. I'm really proud of that.
#sunchat
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:14 AM EST
I love PBL, and use
#geniushour
in my classroom, but it isn't a sustainable statewide model.
@wehedge
#sunchat
In reply to @wehedge
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:16 AM EST
I'd love to see what this looks like!
#sunchat
In reply to @Ryan7Read, @mike_stein33
BeuckelareNic
Nov 13 @ 9:16 AM EST
if we stop using data to compare 1 group of Ss to another, instead use info to inform next steps with same Ss
#sunchat
In reply to @LLWeitzelGCC
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:16 AM EST
Occasional quiet is nice, but when filled with nothing but keyboard keys clicking it's just sad.
#sunchat
In reply to @LearnWithHynes, @KaitPopielarz
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:16 AM EST
Hah I'll give you credit; likely one of the few who will extol virtues of these things 😂
#sunchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @mike_stein33
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
to inform instruction, and help student "see" learning they must be timely and inform an actionable response.
#sunchat
In reply to @KymHarjes
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
from
#launchbook
but I want a 5 minute transition of class creation with simple items like chips, straws
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33, @wehedge
LearnWithHynes
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
@cybraryman1
a good test allows for actual critical thinking and no rote memorization. We need to apply and touch the sky
#sunchat
In reply to @cybraryman1
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
This would be beneficial in so many ways. This would ensure students to be the main focus.
#sunchat
In reply to @susankotch
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
@mike_stein33
yes, the VDOE has definitely made some improvements to the SOLs! 👍🏻👍🏻
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt, @mike_stein33
teachjanderson
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
What percent do standardized tests play in driving instruction vs dictating doors a Ss can or cannot enter?
#sunchat
HillMrispo
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
#sunchat
Data has its place for sure, but we need to see it as an indicator.
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
It is tough, no doubt. We want to see that kids are learning but this is clearly not method 1/2
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
We agree we all need standards and we all need assessments. So, how do we let out stakeholders know we need better ones?
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
So, standardized tests are problematic rather than symptomatic? Or maybe both?
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
totally agree with that... if they have to take the test, then yes, this is the route to go
#sunchat
In reply to @OHara_HPS
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
An example for my new
@OZOBOT
Evo with make a simple
#STREAM
using a paper and markers.
#CodeSnaps
#sunchat
In reply to @OZOBOT
latoyadixon5
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
Checking in late.
#sunchat
txeduchat
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
Don't miss
#txeduchat
tonight as
@raspberryberet3
hosts a conversation on Inquiry!
#sunchat
#tlap
#edchat
#edtechchat
#kidsdeserveit
In reply to @raspberryberet3
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
YES!!!
#BreakTheFactoryModel
Only prob. is it'll lead to Ss graduating early, which messes up ed. funding formula
@susankotch
#sunchat
In reply to @susankotch
MeenooRami
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
Connect Learning to Life NOT Tests - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/tgDhasI6a7
#sunchat
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
trying to make it happen. Let you know tomorrow.
#sunchat
In reply to @wehedge, @mike_stein33
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
Sadly this is very true. Student learning should never be for a profit margin.
#sunchat
In reply to @bwinstonheath
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
VA allows Ts to sit on test review committees to ensure questions are fair. Another reason I am proud to work here. It's a step
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
Oof. How to exert power of change if missteps are unintentional? Point 'em out, for starters, I suppose.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
OHara_HPS
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
Great Q! SAT scores are not good predictor of success later in life.
#sunchat
teachjanderson
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
What percent do standardized tests play in driving instruction vs dictating doors a Ss can or cannot enter?
#sunchat
jpsteltz
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
Do standardized tests provide useful data to inform instruction?
#sunchat
In reply to @BeuckelareNic, @LLWeitzelGCC
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
I think it depends on the subject and the state--but the stakes are pretty high regardless.
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson
GodBlessUSA316
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
#SundayMorning
#sunchat
Agree! So Much Vitriol Hate & Violence from the left
@SenateDems
Need To Denounce!
In reply to @SenateDems
AdrianaCohen16
Nov 13 @ 9:15 AM EST
Your CEO should resign. Damage is done. His anti tolerant email has alienated many who respect diversity of opinion & free elections.
LeeAraoz
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
Standardization creates a climate for the automatization of an entire generation of learners, and unfortunately their teachers.
#sunchat
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
so many Ts are forced to teach to the test unfortunately
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson
thenerdyteacher
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
Why Does A Makerspace Die?
#MakerEd
#SunChat
https://t.co/4ORvjZ865H
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
the mention of "personalizing" speaks to the individuality of each S; how can we ever standardize assessment?
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
dalichwer
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
I wonder the same thing. I'm 52 and have never needed a box and whisker plot...
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
When it comes time for state testing in NY. I rush to see the exam to see what it is testing and whether it is relevant
#sunchat
Principal_EL
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
Great convo on standardized testing and it's impact on children and teachers! Sorry I am late! Typing paper since 6am....
#sunchat
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
This is great! I hope this spreads to other states.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
poida
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
Educator Advisory! Twitter PLN POWER! 👉 Locate, hang, & LEARN with those who inspire! 🍎
https://t.co/rI0dARmCH1
#sunchat
#teach
latoyadixon5
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
Is our work being reduced to eduprenuership? Something to think about....
#sunchat
jabellpepper
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
I agree. Differentiation is a term that is great in theory but we aren’t given true application guidance or support
#sunchat
In reply to @DennisDill
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
How true, it's also trying to keep it not only a
#makerspace
but also
#hakerspace
and
#launchspace
#sunchat
In reply to @thenerdyteacher
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
I agree yet we must assess accurately and make appropriate responses. Learning at the center
#sunchat
In reply to @HillMrispo
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
These tests provide one door and one only!
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson
KymHarjes
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
I'm curious about this as well. Please explain or tweet an ex of this form of pre assessment thx
#sunchat
In reply to @Ryan7Read, @mike_stein33, @wehedge
MrsOeducates
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
Standardized tests set a poor standard for assessing student learning and understanding.
#sunchat
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
will do.
#sunchat
I'm trying it with my
#LEGO
kick off tomorrow.
#sunchat
In reply to @inspire0818
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
Standardized tests are both problematic & symptomatic. Result: Ss are learning less critical thinking than before.
@brianrozinsky
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
PattyJLandKent
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
If used properly, it does inform instruction. Decides who needs interventions.
#sunchat
5StarStudents
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
I focus on student growth. Students may not meet standard, but did they grow? Celebrate successes to promote growth
#sunchat
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
Teacher leaders need to run for office, and join the process of regulation writing.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
@teachjanderson
Truth but they sure do mean a lot when it comes to college admissions!
#sunchat
In reply to @OHara_HPS, @teachjanderson
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
Will do my best.
#sunchat
In reply to @KymHarjes, @mike_stein33, @wehedge
Bigideasinedu
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
STEAM Job descriptions for Curriculum Planning
https://t.co/89uh9lc6qe
#sunchat
#on21cLearn
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
Most states allow public comment on standards /success indicators, THAT'S our powerful moment. We have to be active in discussions
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:19 AM EST
Oof. How to exert power of change if missteps are unintentional? Point 'em out, for starters, I suppose.
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
LearnWithHynes
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
the clicking reminded me of machines in factories. Tests now sound like mass production data
#sunchat
In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @KaitPopielarz
jpsteltz
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
Curious to know if you have found relevancy?
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:12 AM EST
When it comes time for state testing in NY. I rush to see the exam to see what it is testing and whether it is relevant
#sunchat
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
What's more important, right?
#sunchat
Took me two years to learn to knit, my friend 2 classes. She moved on to Knit II.
In reply to @mike_stein33
dalichwer
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
If we teach Ss the basics and teach them how to think and question, most of these strd test will take care of themselves
#sunchat
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
A step indeed! Not sure it's enough but I give cred to any state that recognizes that Ts know teaching!
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt
teachjanderson
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
I don't mind giving Ss one door, as long as it's the one THEY want to try and enter.
#sunchat
https://t.co/P0tSjEtcv0
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:20 AM EST
These tests provide one door and one only!
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
yes, and recently
@vasocialstudies
got to weigh in on the SOL rewrite
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt, @vasocialstudies
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
Begs another Q: Can standardized assessment be standards-based, setting worthwhile floor/foundation for S learning?
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs
latoyadixon5
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
If we can center our work on learning, great things can happen. Focusing on punishment reduces our efforts in ways that make me sad
#sunchat
Principal_EL
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
We keep testing and testing..instead of teaching and loving! Who gains weight by getting on scale each day! We must fight for kids!
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
All of my convos with members of VDOE have been very open and honest. They want us to do better. Change is just complicated.
#sunchat
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
@mike_stein33
yes, the VDOE has definitely made some improvements to the SOLs! 👍🏻👍🏻
#sunchat
In reply to @tiffanytruitt, @mike_stein33
KymHarjes
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
Agreed. Timely feedback...that the St themselves are engaged in...is critical to both inform & transform teaching & learning
#sunchat
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
to inform instruction, and help student "see" learning they must be timely and inform an actionable response.
#sunchat
In reply to @KymHarjes
BeuckelareNic
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
in Ontario we can dig deep into the data to help inform, prob is not every T gets that access.
#sunchat
In reply to @jpsteltz, @LLWeitzelGCC
ConnellySue
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
Great question! How relevant is testing to learning?
#sunchat
In reply to @jpsteltz
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
An excellent question. Need to think of real reasons why so many tests and their long term stakes.
#sunchat
teachjanderson
Nov 13 @ 9:17 AM EST
What percent do standardized tests play in driving instruction vs dictating doors a Ss can or cannot enter?
#sunchat
poida
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
Assessment, like attributes for success in life, should be fluid, flexible, and organic.
#sunchat
mssackstein
- Moderator
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
Connect Learning to Life NOT Tests - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/tgDhasI6a7
#sunchat
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
This is a great point! Growth should be prioritized.
#sunchat
In reply to @5StarStudents
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
What really needs to do is move towards a
#STREAM
space: Science, Tech, Reading, Engineering, art, math
#sunchat
PattyJLandKent
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
Standard based tests make sense.
#sunchat
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
Pearson is probably one of the biggest powerhouse testing companies. Let's all be very clear, testing IS a business
#sunchat
madthomasd
Nov 13 @ 9:21 AM EST
Sounds great always wonder who the experts are that create these tests
@markbarnes19
#pluggedinclass
In reply to @tiffanytruitt, @markbarnes19
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
Oh this flys contrary to my whole philo! Ss need to have choice, guided perhaps, but choice!
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
right- we ought to be skills teachers first, then the content will come easily
#sunchat
In reply to @dalichwer
jpsteltz
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
This is our mission as classroom teachers...provide opportunities for Ss to become better readers, writers, and critical thinkers
#sunchat
dalichwer
Nov 13 @ 9:22 AM EST
If we teach Ss the basics and teach them how to think and question, most of these strd test will take care of themselves
#sunchat
trendingshots
Nov 13 @ 9:24 AM EST
United States NEW Trending Topics: Farage,
#ThinkBIGSundayWithMarsha
, Corozal,
#sunchat
.
#TT
#TopicsUS
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brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:24 AM EST
FWIW, I see current iteration of CO read/write tests (PARCC) seeking more crit thinking than last iteration (TCAP)
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:24 AM EST
What's more important to whom? To districts, $ is the most impt. Need students in school, even if holding them back
@susankotch
#sunchat
In reply to @susankotch
GodBlessUSA316
Nov 13 @ 9:24 AM EST
#SundayMorning
#sunchat
Lefties On Track 2Lose More Elections
@iamwandasykes
Seek Help
In reply to @iamwandasykes
bostonherald
Nov 13 @ 9:18 AM EST
Boston boo-birds flip on Wanda Sykes after anti-Trump rant
https://t.co/uS2NtKMbba
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:24 AM EST
Trying to get this started with my
@DonorsChoose
but only 28% funded.
#sunchat
need help only 27 days left
https://t.co/9dv2xVfajM
In reply to @DonorsChoose
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:24 AM EST
Standards make sense, setting benchmarks seems logical; but who writes standards? Who writes assessments?
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
KymHarjes
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
thank you!
#sunchat
In reply to @Ryan7Read, @mike_stein33, @wehedge
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
Agreed of tests here in VA as well
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:24 AM EST
FWIW, I see current iteration of CO read/write tests (PARCC) seeking more crit thinking than last iteration (TCAP)
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
ambassadorua
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
United States NEW Trending Topics: Farage,
#ThinkBIGSundayWithMarsha
, Corozal,
#sunchat
.
#TT
#TopicsUS
https://t.co/lzY1KLEWt6
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
teacher leaders
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs, @brianrozinsky
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
To a degree you're right, at least at core level.
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson, @OHara_HPS
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
.. and encourages answers w/o collaboration. Can you imagine?
#dictatorship
#realworld
#sunchat
In reply to @LearnWithHynes, @AmyLynnRever, @KaitPopielarz
MainspringNKY
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
The Alchemy of Healing
#recovery
#WorldKindnessDay
#sunchat
https://t.co/9DyOtFWXCt
inspire0818
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
Timely feedback...Next steps...
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM EST
Is "preferably not Pearson" a legitimate answer? Or were those rhetorical questions? :)
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs
AmyLynnRever
Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM EST
Considering the music my days are usually filled with, it's just depressing.
#sunchat
In reply to @LearnWithHynes, @KaitPopielarz
mike_stein33
Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM EST
I completely agree. TN's
#TNReady
test is better than previous standardized tests, but that was low a bar to raise
@brianrozinsky
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
Floyd_Tsebe
Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM EST
https://t.co/Ta5SZTLVn7
Wellington
#spiritchat
#sunchat
The Myth of Female Solidarity
GodBlessUSA316
Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM EST
Lefties Formula 4Not
#Winning
Elections! LoveIt! Keep it Up!
#SundayMorning
#SunChat
In reply to @bostonherald
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM EST
not timely for 21st cent skills
#Sunchat
In reply to @susankotch, @LearnWithHynes, @AmyLynnRever, @KaitPopielarz
bwinstonheath
Nov 13 @ 9:26 AM EST
When I see some of the testing required I start to ask, "Is education in our nation for the COMMON GOOD or the COMMON MARKET?"
#sunchat
MsClabo
Nov 13 @ 9:27 AM EST
I believe Standardized testing has as much to do with trusting Ts as it does with measuring S growth.
#sunchat
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:27 AM EST
Clearly, but will state govts allow this?
#sunchat
In reply to @wehedge, @brianrozinsky
LLWeitzelGCC
Nov 13 @ 9:27 AM EST
This is sadly a point that must be addressed in society today.
#sunchat
In reply to @bwinstonheath
MrDataGuy
Nov 13 @ 9:27 AM EST
We need to reclaim assessment as a powerful classroom tool with teacher as creator and leader.
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs, @brianrozinsky
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:27 AM EST
we've seen progress in VA with stakeholder committees, but not nearly enough.
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs, @brianrozinsky
ShiftParadigm
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
#2495 It's not a faith in technology. It's faith in people. — Steve Jobs
#sunchat
Ryan7Read
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
Ok, I have to go. I need to get these dissertation proposal edits done, but please help with my projects.
https://t.co/Jz3HK1RBsJ
#sunchat
wehedge
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
I hate to give Ts one more thing to do, but we should run for office to make the change
#sunchat
In reply to @mrclinefhs, @brianrozinsky
MainspringNKY
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
What excites you?
#sunchat
#WorldKindnessDay
#BeHappy
https://t.co/9PAHhldYmQ
latoyadixon5
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
#sunchat
latoyadixon5
Nov 13 @ 9:23 AM EST
We can run the risk of becoming so focused on deficits that we ignore assets. Start with what's right so we can work on what's wrong#sunchat
Jay_Eitner
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
Currently reading:
#leadership
#MOTIVATIONMONDAY#edadmin
#suptchat
#sunchat
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
Ahh got you! I'm talking every day. You are right!
#sunchat
In reply to @teachjanderson
susankotch
Nov 13 @ 9:28 AM EST
Hmmm... what do you think?
#sunchat
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:27 AM EST
Clearly, but will state govts allow this?
#sunchat
In reply to @wehedge, @brianrozinsky
mrclinefhs
Nov 13 @ 9:29 AM EST
Hah I love having deeply sarcastic convos with like-minded teachers?!
#sunchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
tiffanytruitt
Nov 13 @ 9:29 AM EST
Whoa. Deep. And, ultimately, true. At some point, we stopped trusting Ts were teaching all Ss. Without testing, how do we measure?
#sunchat
MsClabo
Nov 13 @ 9:27 AM EST
I believe Standardized testing has as much to do with trusting Ts as it does with measuring S growth.
#sunchat
brianrozinsky
Nov 13 @ 9:29 AM EST
Find myself embracing don't-let-great-be-enemy-of-good mindset. Power to be found in incremental bar raising.
#sunchat
In reply to @mike_stein33
