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Tuesday May 16, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome coaches to the Tuesday night
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We are talking 4-2-5 tonight - lots of good Qs via DM!
rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Get comfy and say HI to our fellow brothers - follow each other and like/retweet as much as you like; Q1/A1 format. Use
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too.
CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Matt Sertich Defensive Coordinator Central HS Clifton, IL
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Ryan McCartney Host of
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Playing DAD for the next couple of years!
CoachCurran42
May 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Bobby Curran Special Teams Coordinator, OLB Coach, Gilman School, Baltimore, MD.
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Skillutt28
May 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jeff Lutt DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend HS, KS Ready for my 20th year of coaching
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Matt Christensen, DC & LB coach at Brandon Valley HS in Brandon, SD. Coached 4-2-5 for a few seasons. 15 seasons overall.
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PigSkinCoach
May 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Greg Wallis Tuttle, Ok
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
All Qs are from fellow coaches tonight - Q1 will be up in a minute - welcome.
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yak1373
May 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
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Matt Conner DL Coach. Boonville, IN Home of the Pioneers
CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Brent White, Muskegon High.. Muskegon, MI
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CoachBakk
May 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Bakken Mayville State University
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JRGrayson
May 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
John Grayson Lb's coach Glenbard South HS Glen Ellyn, IL
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Cody Gardner Park City, UT DC/LB/RB Special teams lover Get back coach done good Leave nothing in the middle
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: About personnel - what do you call your SS/WS/FS players in the secondary? What about your ILBers?
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CoachDiG
May 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Rover, Free, whip (mike and Sam
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: About personnel - what do you call your SS/WS/FS players in the secondary? What about your ILBers?
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PigSkinCoach
May 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Strong/Free Sam/mike/ will
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Camp in 5 days......
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: I actually use SS/WS/FS for the triangle of DBs...and use S and M for ILBers - S and 3-tech are married; M and 2i;
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CoachCurran42
May 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: SS/WS=Bull & Ram ILB= Will & Sam
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Skillutt28
May 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1. 3 stack backers, 2 OLBs, & FS
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1) Sam, Mike, Will
$partan
, Bandit Field C - Falcon Boundary C - Hawk End, Tackle, Nose, Rush
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CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
SS Shark WS Hammer FS Free ILB Mack and Will
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Rover=SS Free=FS Lynx=WS I draw 1 letter when scheming. Mike & Will are ILB Lynx is mascot. Want safeties to stay on side 1 day
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thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 ss, ws, fs, sam, will. We will travel lbs and dline if we have clear strengths up front. We will stay if even strengths.
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Skillutt28
May 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1. Sam/mike/will Dawg/Panther Free
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
$tud
, Tackle, Nose, End = DL for us. Helps with naming line stunts and kids understanding their roles. I never have equal DEs.
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CodyCaseNoSpace
May 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Cody Case, DLine Coach, East Hall High School in Gainesville, GA. The Shuck Technique's biggest advocate.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2: Follow up Q - what is the skill set diff. you look for from SS to WS and S and M ILBers? Are they 2 diff positions/skills?
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CodyCaseNoSpace
May 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Beauty of playing one high. We call him Safety. ILBs are Mike & Will.
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thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Ryan Thompson HC/DC Ashland-Greenwood Ashland, NE
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Dime package sub: Zeke weak side OLB. 1 d-line out, probably nose guard, shift T to nose.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: We want our SLB to be more "active", better lat runner; MLB is A-gap player/plugger; SS/WS are best athletes on field.
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CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2: Warrior has to be able to play in the box and back in the shell. Whereas, the free is your space player and lane filler
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Coach_ZC
May 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: Sam, Free, Whip. Mike/Bandit.
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
What qualities must the FS have for you? Always looking to put players over plays.
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In reply to @rmacblue
honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
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Cody Honeycutt Greenwood High School, IN. DB's and WR's
coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
SS:Sam WS: Mac FS: FS ILB: X & Will
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Never play 2 high? Never play Cover 2 or 4? Not criticizing, just looking to improve. We didn't much this season, either.
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In reply to @CodyCaseNoSpace
CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A) SS More Physical of the 2 able to play up on the TE if need be. WS Faster more athletic able to put back in 2 Deep Shell
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thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 ss and ws close to same and athletic. Sam has to plug, Will has to cover ground. FS is best athlete making everyone right!
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CoachDiG
May 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
WS cans be factor in run game and set edge. FS can break off hash to cover ground. WILB can cover back out.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2: Follow up Q - what is the skill set diff. you look for from SS to WS and S and M ILBers? Are they 2 diff positions/skills?
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CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Q2 Cont: Buck LB has to be an athlete that can cover a back out, Flat, or TE at times. Mike - thumper who is a run game issue
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JRGrayson
May 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: mike is the plugger. Big, alpha. Wills the runner.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2: Follow up Q - what is the skill set diff. you look for from SS to WS and S and M ILBers? Are they 2 diff positions/skills?
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CodyCaseNoSpace
May 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: We want Mike to be our better LB in coverage. The Will needs to be are bulldozer, plugging cutback lanes and BS blitzes.
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2)As we move away from Mike we want more cover & speed. M-W-S-B-$
$partan
need to be super heady, bandit has the most pressure
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honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@rmacblue
A1 sorry. I meant SS WS and FS
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
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Ever have the Mike "run the pipe" as in Tampa 2 coverage? Play a middle third/run through?
In reply to @CodyCaseNoSpace
coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Sam needs to be a guy that that can walk up on the LOS. Mac: is an actual DB type Free: needs to be smart for checks
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CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
In Perfect World - Great FB IQ additional on field coach, Great Range, Must be able to fill the alley and be a solid tackler
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In reply to @mchristensenbv, @rmacblue
elbigfred
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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A1) SS, FS, (Name of your mascot) SS to multiple receiver side and (mascot) away. ILBs Mike, Will, Sam
Coach_ZC
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: SS more used as an overhang. WS can be utilized down or on the roof.
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2
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MLB is bigger and plugs. WLB is faster and can lock man-to-man more (on RBs). And get re-routes on WRs. Want outside Ss same
rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3: Couple coaches asked - how do you line up to 11 personnel? What about pro twins w/ pistol look?
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CoachGinn
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1) We're playing LS, RS, & FS this year, Sam, Mike, & Will LBs
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: About personnel - what do you call your SS/WS/FS players in the secondary? What about your ILBers?
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honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
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honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: SS has to be someone that can play in the box. Sam is our adjuster. Has to be athletic and mike is bigger and has to be a filler!
In reply to @rmacblue
CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Mike true MLB to
$partan
old school FS, the traits scale slides,
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
LS=left? RS=right? Never flip? Do you flip DL?
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In reply to @CoachGinn
mrdurkinehs
May 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Mike is more the leader Sam is more the run stopper. SS has to be able to stick his nose in it. FS more of a pass protect
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elbigfred
May 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
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SS is faster DB (multi rec side)and your (mascot) DB is your bigger OLB that can play on the line if needed for 5 man front.
Coach_ZC
May 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
S more of a plugger, M more of a cover.
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CoachGinn
May 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: LS/RS Hybrid kids, FS has to be smart, & can run a tackler too, Sam & Mike are bigger LBs Will is the fit guy that can run
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2: Follow up Q - what is the skill set diff. you look for from SS to WS and S and M ILBers? Are they 2 diff positions/skills?
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CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: Strength is determined week to week depending on what they do best. Be adaptable enough to take away their best stuff
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: Our rule in the box is to play a 6-tech vs TE and have C-gap resp. Our base coverage is split field w/zone to the numbers
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PigSkinCoach
May 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 7/3/2i/5
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
We will ask our Sam to wear a lot of hats. Play both in and out of the box, ILB, OLB, 9 tech, m2m coverage, you name it.
#dude
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CoachRGaskins
May 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
DE to the TE lines up in a 7 tech and overhang player WS/SS apexes
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In reply to @rmacblue
coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: SDE is stacked over TE plays C gap SS is force. WS is over the slot FS split the widest WR
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GaryPendergraft
May 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@rmacblue
A1) SS/WS: Eagle-Will; ILB: Sam & Mike;
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CodyCaseNoSpace
May 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
We've played 4 the last couple of years, but was porous in the run game. So we added a Man in the box to stop the run first.
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In reply to @mchristensenbv
coachjsam
May 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Joseph Sam DC/LB at Mansfield Legacy
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CoachDiG
May 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Was mostly under front with adjustments. depends where TE is
@CoachDBasil
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3: Couple coaches asked - how do you line up to 11 personnel? What about pro twins w/ pistol look?
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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You don't want to flip them because it's long way to run pre-snap? Don't flip corners, either? Thinking about going to this.
In reply to @CoachGinn
CoachGinn
May 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: 11 personnel treat TE/Flanker side as Pass Strength, Pro twins we'll sky nub & Read Twins, front will play the call
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3: Couple coaches asked - how do you line up to 11 personnel? What about pro twins w/ pistol look?
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3) Love walking the Sam down into a 9, playing an under or 11 front. ILBs in 30s, TGOG by DLine. 2read.
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
What does acronym "TGOG" mean?
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In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3) we align in under. 9-5-2-3-5 typically, but we we do a variety of things based on tendencies and RB alignment
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coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
When people describe a kid as a "plugger" I think slow. We don't play slow people on defense.
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CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3) DE to TE side is C Gap Player, SS is Force. WS inside of the Slot. Against TE Trips will Drop WS back to 2 High Shell
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Two Gap Open Gap.
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In reply to @mchristensenbv
thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 11 pers. 6i, 3, 1, 5. Cover strength is to twin side. WS will play closer to LOS
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coachjsam
May 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: your best safety should be the weak side safety if you run the 4-2-5
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q4: I mentioned that our base cover was Split Field; What is your base in the 4-2-5? Anyone play Cover 1?
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CodyCaseNoSpace
May 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: 6, 3, 1, 6. Ahem: 5, 3, 2i, 5 for the purists. Sam or Bandit (OLB in 4-4) will step up to TE.
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Coach_JRogers
May 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Jeff Rogers HC Whitewater HS Whitewater, WI. Sorry late to the party.
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thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 split field
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CoachAmara
May 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
We use Field/Boundary & make both safeties know both responsibilities. Helps keep blitz side under wraps. ILBs are Mike & Will
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: About personnel - what do you call your SS/WS/FS players in the secondary? What about your ILBers?
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elbigfred
May 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
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A3) Over Front to TE, OLB 4x4 to TE and covers out route, ILB Opens to TE and looks for Drag, No drag eyes on RB. Cov 1 or 3.
mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
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To play the alley? To lock man? To play cutbacks so ILBs can fast flow? Our WS had 6 picks this year, more than other two.
In reply to @coachjsam
CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
9-5-1-3-5 jet-deuce-jet-duece-jet If you have an open Gap to inside deuce if not jet. BDSD on base deuce x face, jet get to Q
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mrdurkinehs
May 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: we pattern match
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In reply to @rmacblue
tknipp9
May 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A1: We have called them Free, Sam, & Jake w/ Jake being the the SS type.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: About personnel - what do you call your SS/WS/FS players in the secondary? What about your ILBers?
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CoachDiG
May 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: split field but cover 1 in red zone to match weak side numbers. Match up with pressures.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q4: I mentioned that our base cover was Split Field; What is your base in the 4-2-5? Anyone play Cover 1?
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CoachAmara
May 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A1) p1: We use Field/Boundary & make both safeties know both responsibilities. It helps keep blitz side under wraps pre-snap
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
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A4 We play cover 1 and 0 a lot (personnel-based). Had DL that could get heat on their own. What does "Split Field" mean?
CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A1) Pattern match, will play cover 1, into boundary which I feel is actually man-2. So yes, but no.
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CoachGinn
May 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4: we are split field out of Odd Stack Front, few tweaks to 4-2 stuff, but same concepts
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q4: I mentioned that our base cover was Split Field; What is your base in the 4-2-5? Anyone play Cover 1?
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CodyCaseNoSpace
May 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
We do, but not from the 4-2-5. In situations where we think we can play man and stop the run, from 21 usually.
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honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4: quarters coverage! We split field sometimes.
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In reply to @rmacblue
coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: we're gonna be 75% pattern match cov3. We can get frisky if the personnel will allow us
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CoachAmara
May 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A1) p2: ILBs are Mike & Will in base
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elbigfred
May 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
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A4) I run a base 3-3-5 and bring a ILB down to give a 4 man front (4-2-5). Cov 3 is base but I can run Cov 1, and 2 Sky.
tknipp9
May 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A2: Yes, we look for different skill sets. SS is a true DB, WS is a hybrid guy who can play on LOS. M & S are interchangeable
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2: Follow up Q - what is the skill set diff. you look for from SS to WS and S and M ILBers? Are they 2 diff positions/skills?
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coachjsam
May 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
You want to make him the free player for run and pass
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In reply to @mchristensenbv
CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4) Play Several Coverages. Many Factors Personnel, Formations, D&D. Cover 3, Cover 1 and our Quarters Scheme
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
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Never 2Read? Any Tampa 2 with ILB run through? Pattern-match or landmarks? I'm narrowing my options/decisions.
In reply to @CometBacker2011
CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4) primarily Cover 3 and Man. We send pressure with C0 to cut down on coverage times. Do run 2, Quarters, and Split coverages
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tknipp9
May 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3: Slide the front to the TE and call the coverage to the Twins.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3: Couple coaches asked - how do you line up to 11 personnel? What about pro twins w/ pistol look?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q5: A coach wants to know how you align/play vs Flexbone in the 4-2-5?
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giveawaysuvo
May 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4) primarily Cover 3 and Man. We send pressure with C0 to cut down on coverage times. Do run 2, Quarters, and Split coverages
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coachjsam
May 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: believe whatever you major in should fit personnel and be able to stop what you see consistently.
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CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5) As an option coach my soul will not allow me to answer this, but ill be actively listening 😂
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tknipp9
May 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: We have played 0, 2 & 3.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q4: I mentioned that our base cover was Split Field; What is your base in the 4-2-5? Anyone play Cover 1?
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Coach_JRogers
May 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5) Depends on what you want to stop and who you want to stop QB or FB.
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coachjsam
May 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5: however you line up, better have someone for dive, QB and pitch
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coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5: we try to stay as balanced as possible (which is hard because we're odd front) then pick our poison.
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PigSkinCoach
May 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5 we play lose 5/3/2i/5
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5
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This is where I love the 4-2. It can be a packed-in defense quickly against Flexbone-like/type formations. Ss gotta toughen
CoachCurran42
May 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: I'm all about C1
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4) 4-3, with double 1 techs.
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CoachDiG
May 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: same way play it in everything else a/b gap has dive c/d QB box has pitch play gap exchange rules
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q5: A coach wants to know how you align/play vs Flexbone in the 4-2-5?
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
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Because you have a dude who can play the post vs pass and alleys vs run? Any Cover 0? You send 5 a lot in C1?
In reply to @CoachCurran42
coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: we teach Force, Fill, Scrape, & Alley so it's not as much dive, QB, pitch.
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CodyCaseNoSpace
May 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Just realized that this chat was a solely 4-2-5 chat, while I'm blabbing away about the 4-4.
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thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5 we would probably work down to a 6-2 with our ws/ss and play man with peel responsibilities for ss/ws
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tknipp9
May 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: I defer to this answer!
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CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5) As an option coach my soul will not allow me to answer this, but ill be actively listening 😂
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q6: Who do you have your ILBers reading? Do you utilize a Field DE & Boundary DE? If so, how are they different?
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Nah, I have been talking 4-3. Even front defense, 425 doesn't mean 2 high, should but doesn't guarantee
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In reply to @CodyCaseNoSpace
CoachDiG
May 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6: G to Near Back both are same but stay field and boundary
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q6: Who do you have your ILBers reading? Do you utilize a Field DE & Boundary DE? If so, how are they different?
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6)Cross read to surface. End goes too the call, Rush away.
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coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A:6 ILBs read The barrel guards to back. Strong side DE is a true DE. WkDE is a faster DT we flip to strength.
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6
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have
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DE who is bigger & can whip TEs. The End plays the open side and is smaller, quicker Call str to TE not hash/bound
CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6) Guards -.key orientated throughout the entire D.. Stong/Weak DEs.. same kid always plays to the TE. Their keys never change.
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thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6 read guards most, we will move DEs with strength at times but haven't done f/b. Have a call in the toolbox through 😁
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CoachAmara
May 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A3) If it's any form of trips we'll roll S down because we'll probably be in C3. Otherwise shift front or walk OLB down to TE.
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honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
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honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: play a 5-2 lol. 9-5-3-1-5
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
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Agree. I like same kid vs TE all the time. Offenses would run at my smaller DE if I left him vs TE a lot. 3 tech & 2I not same
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
With our TGOG, we will have some Gap exchange, LBs must understand read key to open/closed windows. In theory LBs have no gaps
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CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6) Our Anchor (SDE) Always goes to TE he is Bigger Physical DE, Our Rush goes away he is morepass rusher
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CoachGinn
May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: we key Guards with LBs, a few times vs Pistol teams keyed QB open vs Pistol Teams
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rmacblue
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May 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q6: Who do you have your ILBers reading? Do you utilize a Field DE & Boundary DE? If so, how are they different?
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rmacblue
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May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q7: How do you like to cover Trips and/or Tre looks?
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Coach_JRogers
May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6) ILB key midpoint of guard and bc under center. Midpoint of guard and mesh vs gun/pistol. See both better if key midpoint.
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elbigfred
May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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A5) Base Alignment:Tackles 1s Ends 5s OLB 9s (1 yd off) Corners 7x1 on wings, Mike and Will at 30 Tech, FS 10 Apex wings.
honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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honeycutt_cody
May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Change front due to strength. Read gaps/guards.
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Press everywhere!
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Make them lob up fades. Press the RB as much as possible too? Peel DEs / edge rushers off vs. flare?
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7) Apex Sam between 2&3. Trey, will need to know why, but again, I'd love to get Sam in a 9. Maybe play pattern match robber.
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CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
If your DE's play sides how do you handle teams that then Trade the TE to the other side?
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CoachGinn
May 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7: multiple ways to, will gameplan based on why they are in trips/trey
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rmacblue
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May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q7: How do you like to cover Trips and/or Tre looks?
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@CoachCurran42
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Do you disguise the heat and all press until very late?
coachjsam
May 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7: we will play what takes away what they do
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CoachBrentWhite
May 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7) Bump SS over 2 and FS over 3. SS inside of 3 and bring the WS over and play over 2. Stops trips strong sprint game
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thomps_03
May 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7 slide ss out work cover 2 scheme. Trey keep ss in and work pattern match scheme
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CoachCurran42
May 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Sometimes. It'll depend. I show 2 high most of the time. Will roll late. Other times I just line up and go.
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
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I teach weakside DE to prep for that. The 3tech swaps with 1tech, but DEs don't flip. I've made Off do what they don't want to
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elbigfred
May 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
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A6) ILBs read guards unless its a poorly coached o-line then read will change to RB (Cross Read). Bad O-lines give bad reads.
rmacblue
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May 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Coaches, don't be afraid to contact those coaches who can help give you more detailed answers.
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tknipp9
May 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7: Depends, we carry two checks into a game, we play coverage or we bring pressure
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rmacblue
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May 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q7: How do you like to cover Trips and/or Tre looks?
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CometBacker2011
May 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7) Pattern Matching out of 2 Shell Look vs Trips or Trey.
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coachtanis
May 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6) Keys often will change based on game plan. Gun vs Under center plays a big role. DE alignment can change each yr..
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
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A7 I love to lock up man on the backside, but teams always put their STRAIGHT DUDE WR back there these days! So, have to mix up
CoachAmara
May 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A7) I already answered this because I'm a loud mouth but I'd love to hear from coaches who don't play C3 vs trips!
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CODY_GARDNER
May 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
TGOG video, LB fits there too
https://t.co/WQMIpUlCxD
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rmacblue
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May 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
As always, thanks for participating. It never works if it's just me on here typing questions!
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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Cover 3 gets torched around here out of Trio. They run bender by 3 back to solo side and get him open vs. 1/4,1/4, 1/2 & true 3
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coachSKYNYRD
May 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A7: I signal in 2 coverages the 1st for a balanced form. 2nd for trips or empty. FS picks
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elbigfred
May 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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A7) Cover 3 with ILBs help. Blitz Trip side if QB likes to roll. Blitz 1 rec side if pocket passer. I like to send pressure.
yak1373
May 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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A7) man #1 to trips, align SS outside leverage #2 with bracket coverage from Free inside #3. Cloud or sky weak. Play underfront
coachtanis
May 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A7) We play our 1/4s. We will blitz it like any other formation. We also have common RPO adjustments. RB alignment is key.
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mchristensenbv
May 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
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What does TGOG mean? Will see video too. Thanks.
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CoachAmara
May 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
you guys press all across the board? do you have concerns about/issues with pick routes/combos?
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