#MasteryChat is a weekly chat with a growing family of educators from around the word focused on teaching better and reaching more students. Topics cover an array of challenges and solutions for teachers of all grade levels and subject areas, admins, and support staff.
#MasteryChat occurs every Thursday at 8:00pm eastern.
The chat was created by team at @thegridmethod, but is hosted by guest moderators each week. Our primary moderators are @techieteachott, @raehugart, and @jeffgargas.
Welcome to #MasteryChat! I'm Joy from IL, 7th grade ELA teacher and author of #ShiftThis, wanting to learn more from YOU about healthier grading practices. Please introduce yourself so we can connect!
Patrick, a tech coach, colleague, and friend to teachers in Clarke County VA. An advocate for students and technology to enhance their learning.
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Roman from Ontario, Canada. HS Teacher/Student Success Leader/Agent of Transformation. Great to be with #masterychat tonight! So happy @JoyKirr is leading learning tonight!
Welcome to #MasteryChat! I'm Joy from IL, 7th grade ELA teacher and author of #ShiftThis, wanting to learn more from YOU about healthier grading practices. Please introduce yourself so we can connect!
Misty 6th ELA in Georgia ready to join #MasteryChat and #mschat before heading to FL tomorrow for a #Nearpod Pionear Summit. Chatting with my #PLN is a great start to a great weekend!
Welcome to #MasteryChat! I'm Joy from IL, 7th grade ELA teacher and author of #ShiftThis, wanting to learn more from YOU about healthier grading practices. Please introduce yourself so we can connect!
Nick from Erie, PA. Just saying hello for ten minutes until the showing of CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF continues after its intermission at the movie theatre #MasteryChat
I read #ShiftThis this week and it was amazing! Devoured it in two days. Big time @JoyKirr fan and very excited for these questions tonight #masterychat
Steph Dill SPED T from Colorado. As our trimester is ending would love to end grading as we know it. I don't do grades as a SPED T, but all tje gen ed Ts are up in arms right now.#MasteryChat
Hey #masterychat Jeff from Ohio here! I work with PML and @thegridmethod and get to work with amazing teachers all over the country, like you! So pumped to have @JoyKirr moderating tonight! #masterychat
A1. The purpose of grading is the fact that itβs βhow weβve always done it.β Its ineffective and is subjective to the teachers mood! No matter how hard we try, itβs so difficult to grade every assignment exactly the same. #shiftthis#masterychat
A1a. WE HAVE IT ALL WRONG. Grades tell us who has turned in or completed an assignment, not if anything has been learned. Parents only care if the grade is "bad". #masterychat
A1 Grading provides feedback to the Ss on their growth & proficiency of a topic or concept. However, many see it as the end of learning & a final "score" of intelligence. Our focus should be growth, always! #masterychat
I do not think there is a purpose to giving letter grades. I feel that feedback is a better method combined with standards based grading. I feel that the community I live in bases student achievement on letter grades. #masterychat
A1 Grading is supposed to be summative feedback. Unfortunately, itβs more often viewed as a reward or weapon. Parents think itβs what it was βin their dayβ. And Iβm Ann from Colorado Springs 5th grade. #MasteryChat
A1 The purpose is to help students learn. It should tell students where they are on their learning journey & help them grow & be better. For parents, they want a grade to know how well the students have learned. Grading unfortunately does not equal/support learning. #masterychat
A1: I think the purpose of grading should be to COMMUNICATE academic skill or knowledge. My student/parent community... I'm not sure they've considered what it's for. #masterychat
A1: I think the purpose of grading is to give Ss an idea of how they are doing in the pursuit of mastery. I think parents think grades are a personal reflection of their kid, themselves, their grandparents.... you get the idea. #masterychat
A1 The purpose of grading should be to assess mastery of a standard and drive instruction. As educators we have to educate ss and parents on this purpose! #Masterychat
A1: The purpose of grading is to gather data on students to know what we can do as teachers to help them regain the skill or challenge them. #MasteryChat
A1: To divide the Ss. Parents think it shows understanding. Kids know it just makes them see who performs better on a given evaluation. Ugh percents...not a fan. #MasteryChat#cananyonetellmewhata78inLAmeans?
A1: Grading (traditional form) helps relate the student experience of today with the educational experience of the parent (back in the day) #masterychat
A1: I've been told that the purpose of grading is to let parents and community know where students are in relation to other students. I believe we can do better than one letter at sharing what students know. #MasteryChat
A1: grading is a tangible way of letting a student know how they are progressing in their quest for knowledge. Unfortunately parents fall into the trap of seeing it as a "good kid / bad kid" kind of thing (must admit I've done it!) #masterychat
A1: I think the purpose should be for learning and growth. Parents and the public think it's more about status and an "end" destination instead of a journey. #MasteryChat
A1 Hard to address this in just 280 characters! The purpose of grading from my perspective is to give Ss feedback about their progress towards goals. I wish I understood what Ps thought the purpose was. They often seemed focused just on what letter their child gets. #masterychat
A1: The purpose of grading should be to show a students mastery of a topic. Parents think it is how well their child is doing. I struggle with grading because it measures neither the way we currently use it. #masterychat
A1: The purpose SHOULD be to measure student growth and learning! The reality is that the 100 point scale doesnβt always reflect what a student learned, especially when you have 30 points to pass and 69 to fail. #masterychat
A1: I think the purpose of grading is to provide valuable feedback to both the students and parents. Grading should serve a purpose and should be used to see how the students are doing at a given point in time. #masterychat
A1: the purpose of grading is a traditional way to document student mastery of learning outcomes. However, there are often a lot of hidden agendas in the grades (neatness, behaviors...) that skew the purpose. #masterychat
I would agree that many parents are stuck at whether the grade is GOOD or BAD, not thinking as much about the real learning. This is not to say, of course, that they don't care whether their kid learns. #masterychat
A1a. WE HAVE IT ALL WRONG. Grades tell us who has turned in or completed an assignment, not if anything has been learned. Parents only care if the grade is "bad". #masterychat
A1 ~ Grades should assess a Ss understanding of the content material (not their responsibility)! S grades should inform instruction...assessment for learning!! #masterychat
A1: #masterychat. Grading is a way for me to assess the student's mastery at a concept. It's a way to communicate to families how their child is doing.
#Masterychat A1 The purpose of grading is to show mastery of a standard (formative) or a cluster (summative). Our Ss and families understand Ss have 180 days to meet standards. We only grade assessments.
A1: Grading for me is to track a student's mastery of a standard and to drive my instruction and differentiation - growth model. Many parents think it is to show if they are passing or failing, more punitive than growth model. #masterychat
A1 Grades SHOULD communicate Ss level of understanding of a topic. In my SD Parents think it is a number that must be raised at all costs, bc it defines the Ss. #masterychat
A1: βGradingβ (as opposed to feedback or assessment generally) is used to quantify alleged learning and Ps and communities often use grades to rank. I think many Ts have learned (or are learning) that assessment must be about learning & grades must be standards-based #masterychat
A1) The purpose of grading is to provide feedback to a child. Mixed reviews from community. Secondary seems to be about the GPA for higher ed entry and scholarships. #masterychat
A1 I donβt really see a purpose for grading. Feedback doesnβt require assigning value #masterychat Parents see grades as a connection to how their kids are doing. Itβs easy to understand
A1.For so long the purpose of grading has always had some aire of competitiveness.. whether one competes with oneself, one's classmates, or ultimately the community at large in finding employment.. formative assessment has now become what Ss understand thankfully. :) #masterychat
Grading should be used to let the student know how they are progressing. Sadly in some cases parents see grades as status in the community #MasteryChat
A1 Ideally the purpose of grading would be like the purpose of a thermometer β to indicate how things are in a given moment and help us make decisions. But grades more often make students more interested in status & they avoid risks that lead to meaningful learning.
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A1 I donβt really see a purpose for grading. Feedback doesnβt require assigning value #masterychat Parents see grades as a connection to how their kids are doing. Itβs easy to understand
Ideally...
My Purpose : Communicate Understanding of specific Topics / Feedback
Parents : Learn about their students learning. Ability to identify Strong Areas of Success and Areas needing Growth
Community : Provide Feedback to Ss to build Community Leaders #Masterychat
A1 The actual purpose is assessment and sharing of S mastery / competency in relation to a subject. It has become more of an "all or none" what do I need to get an "A" system for most Ps. This is what must change. Identification of need& mastery > "getting a grade" #masterychat
This past week, I gave feedback without a grade using @screencastify. Students got to listen to their feedback and make changes before resubmitting... had a great reflection process with the kids! Not a single one asked about the grade. #shiftthis#masterychat
A1 I donβt really see a purpose for grading. Feedback doesnβt require assigning value #masterychat Parents see grades as a connection to how their kids are doing. Itβs easy to understand
Hi! Chris from NJ dropping in a little late! #masterychat Happy to learn with you tonight!
I prefer using standards based grading instead of regular grades b/c at least I can see, at a glance, what skills are still needed and which are not.
A1: grading is to show how close to mastering a standard a student is. Parents ... hmmmm. I sometimes wonder if they equate it with how we value their children! They care about the letter or %, not what it stands for #MasteryChat
Well it should be informative. Students should know what they have a handle on and what they are still striving to develop. I do not think percentages have a path to that clarity however. Ss fixate on a number not the journey. #MasteryChat
A1 - To assess and articulate what a student knows about a certain subject. Parents believe it is more about what a student can answer on a test, quiz or certain assignment. Iβd also add that much of how grading is done is flawed. #masterychat
A2: Straight Aβs means student is highly intelligent.
It could mean they have good work ethic? Organization skills?
I had straight As in HS. I was NOT prepared for college. #shiftthis#masterychat
I've noticed that too! When I give feedback for improvements kids never asked about the grades! And, they are almost always willing to make the improvements! #masterychat
This past week, I gave feedback without a grade using @screencastify. Students got to listen to their feedback and make changes before resubmitting... had a great reflection process with the kids! Not a single one asked about the grade. #shiftthis#masterychat
A1 I donβt really see a purpose for grading. Feedback doesnβt require assigning value #masterychat Parents see grades as a connection to how their kids are doing. Itβs easy to understand
A1)itβs been a long time since Iβve had to grade or give grades. Weβre a standards based district. I give marks related to performance level descriptors. Parents are aware of end Gail and informed of progress toward mastery. #MasteryChat
A2 A myth might be that grades directly reflect "intelligence", and that is impossible to measure with only a letter as a reflection. Our Ss are so much more than a letter on a report card #masterychat
A2 Grades should be final. I am not liked by some Ts bc I offer Test corrections and redos. If they need more time to learn it, that is ok.
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A2: grading myths include "well back when -I- was in school..." and treating kids like failures when they fail. We all say that you cannot learn without failure, yet most adults still push for A, A, A. If an Ss best work is a C, then celebrate that C! #masterychat
A2 - One of the biggest myths I see is that "everything has to be worth a grade". This tends to take away the value of mistakes, struggle, and takes focus away from the process of learning / practice. #masterychat
A1: grading should serve as a blue print of mastery. Do u get what is being taught&can you apply it. Grading should be flexible to allow for growth. The community sees grading as a ranking system. They judge us &students based on them. Think this needs to be changed.
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A2: That grades reflect ability and that it is a fixed thing. Some Ss think they are what their grade is, rather than what they CAN do... #growthmindset#masterychat
A1 I used to be a stickler for grades because that is how I was assessed growing up. Now I think that grades are not a great measure, but I understand why parents want "hard" evidence. #masterychat
A2: High GPA = Prepared. I worry that may top GPA students aren't prepared to create, solve/find problems, or deal with setbacks that inevitably come. #masterychat
A2: That it is a reflection of what students can do. I went from the progress report/ mastery scale of an elementary report card to a percent based JH and it has been difficult to adjust for me. I can't imagine how hard it is for kids. #MasteryChat
Some teachers use grades as a punishments and "gotcha" moments. Parents think grades are true indicators of their children - but they are not! Graders are just an average of their work. There is SO much more to say if teachers were given the chance! #masterychat
Kids are flexible. At first, they expect a grade because that is what they have always gotten. Eventually, they adjust and appreciate the feedback without a grade! #MasteryChat
A2: That it is an accurate reflection of student growth and learning and also that giving a zero for assignments not turned in on time makes kids more βresponsibleβ. #masterychat
I tell my kiddos it is all practice for the big game. I give feedback like a coach and during assessments they show me what they can do hence the big game. Up to them to be prepared to play. #masterychat
A1: I think parents think a grade is how well the student is doing and whether or not the student is doing what he/she is supposed to. A grade is much more than that. #masterychat
#masterychat A2 Some myths about grading are averaging is ok. It is NOT. Another myth is grades determine the intellect Ss. Another myth...you have to grade everything. You donβt.
A2a. I GOT IT! is what most think. For most kids as soon as you give them a grade they are done with that assignment and forget or are done with that assignment. Same with parents. Grades do not equal mastery or learning. #masterychat
A1: The purpose of grading is accountability. It is a means to provide Ts with data to drive instruction and to inform parents on how their children are progressing, but an often neglected component is for the Ssto know where they stand themselves #MasteryChat
A2.2 Another myth about grades is that they motivate. Students are motivated to work hard when that work mattersβto them personally and in the world. #masterychat
I like mutually developed portfolios between the students and the teacher. In this way, they collaborate to tell the students learning journey. #masterychat
A2: itβs not of value if it isnβt graded. The more work it is, the more it should be worth. Iβm working so hard to try to bust these concepts! #MasteryChat
A2 Grades should be final. I am not liked by some Ts bc I offer Test corrections and redos. If they need more time to learn it, that is ok.
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A2: A common myth is that high grades means mastery and low grades means it has not been mastered. However, grades include things like worth ethic and effort, not just understanding and maatery. #MasteryChat
A2 A popular myth is that all As are the same, and if you donβt get one, you arenβt βsmartβ. Another myth is that if Ss donβt work hard, they canβt master content and get one. Yet another is that A Ss are perfect, so less than A is less than. #masterychat
A2 That teachers have to grade everything. That a grade can never be adjusted if learning is mastered later. That a bell curve exists in learning & grading. That it needs to be done paper/pencil/written for it "to count". That all assessments must be the same. #masterychat
A2 Some might say that grades are the only way to measure what Ss know. That w/o hard data and standardization we can't truly see success on the world stage. I call BS, but I'm not really in charge... #masterychat
It can be frusturating. Many Ps just want the letter grade and don't care about the work or time it took to get to that grade or understanding. #masterychat
A2: Too many to list! The biggest one is that Ts that graduate with an edu degree have any idea how to effectively grade for learning. Thereβs no course to explain grading, and thus Ts grade however they were graded while in school. #masterychat
Sometimes it's the B student who worked his tail off in high school that does better in college than an A students because the B student learned habits & tenacity where it may have come easy to the A student. Just an example but I've seen it happen! #masterychat
I find allowing test corrections helpful for some students to help with grades, but really to focus on UNDERSTANDING because old material is always on the next test... #masterychat
A2 ~ Grades truly reflect a Sβs understanding of the material...grade inflation & grade reflection of behavior/effort/attendance are real issues... #masterychat
A2 Grades should be final. I am not liked by some Ts bc I offer Test corrections and redos. If they need more time to learn it, that is ok.
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A2: The biggest myth I can think of with grades is that they only reflect a student's knowledge. They reflect a student's current life situation and motivation. #masterychat
A1. Always a hot button issue for me as grading suggests a number/letter grade while formative assessment provides feedback.
Even university programs have gone to Pass/Fail without numbers/letters so why do we grade? SO competitive! #masterychat
A2: I feel like people think a grade is an end all be all. They think it is how well the student is doing without realizing the many factors that go into it. It bothers me when parents punish for bad grades when the student is truly trying. #masterychat
Slow change gives time for Ts, Ss, and Ps to shift, though. Sometimes slow change can get everyone onboard, I think. We all need to shift our assessment paradigm on our own terms; forcing it could be detrimental to classrooms #masterychat
A2b. We have kids who have bad grades in classes- BECAUSE THEY DID NOT TURN IN THEIR HOMEWORK! But yet they have done well on assessments. #masterychat
A2 - That it is reflective of what students truly know about a subject. That it is a measure of intelligence. That it is valuable later in life. Finally, that it is truly important for mastery of content. #MasteryChat
A2. Grades are only providing a sense of accomplishment to S's achieving high grades which might be based more on a good work ethic, as opposed to other S's who may not be consistent with work completion #masterychat
A2: A common myth is that high grades means mastery and low grades means it has not been mastered. However, grades include things like worth ethic and effort, not just understanding and maatery. #MasteryChat
A2: It's a myth that we NEED grades. Consider kids who are homeschooled, for one... It's also a myth that grades actually represent what a child knows. #MasteryChat
A2 Many people including some teachers still believe that a grade is relative to good or bad overall in a subject. There is a major misconception partly due to the fact that grades trad grades do t really provide information as to progression of learning. #Masterychat
When students don't pass the 1st time that should tell us we failed and we need to do more to help the S learn and understand. So glad to see you help give them more so they can show mastery. #masterychat
That is a concept students have so much trouble accepting. They CAN get there, but it takes many conversations and time. Parents are harder to convince. #MasteryChat
I've moved away from that practice. I am required to put two assignments in my online gradebook per week, but most of them are 0 points. Not everything is worth grading...sometimes it's practice! Practice shouldn't be graded. #masterychat
A2 - One of the biggest myths I see is that "everything has to be worth a grade". This tends to take away the value of mistakes, struggle, and takes focus away from the process of learning / practice. #masterychat
A1- grading shows how much learning has taken place and is shown through assessments and mastery. Parents view it as how much their kids are doing (going to be retained?) or a comparison to other kids in my district #masterychat
No doubt. Especially when their other classes are simply averaging points for this and that... It's an adjustment for parents, as well. Well worth it! #masterychat
So true! I point to every book on my shelves and discuss how many edits and rewrites those published authors have. Always able to improve and grow. #masterychat
Hmm... I don't grade formative assessments. Assessment does not always equal grades, and grades does not always imply assessment happened. How weird is that?? #masterychat
So true! I work with students identified as gifted and so many of them simply do NOT know how to persevere! It is the most important skill I can teach them. #MasteryChat
I used to be such a legalist (and am still fighting against it in the grade book), but sometimes some students need more leniency or even more of a challenge! #masterychat
I'm supposed to be doing progress reports. I've been playing QWOP for the last 7 minutes. I have not mastered it yet. #masterychat
Be back after my commute home.
A2: myths about grading... hmm that a grade tells you what Ss master and what they donβt. A number or letter isnβt enough to represent our learners. #MasteryChat
A2: That using available resources is not allowed during an assessment. Why not? I use them as an adult when I don't know an answer. Shouldn't we be teaching them to explore & find solutions rather than fleeting memorization? #masterychat
A2- myths that people in my building have is that every item that a student does needs graded by a teacher and passed back. Also, busy work is given grades #masterychat
A2: A common myth is that high grades means mastery and low grades means it has not been mastered. However, grades include things like worth ethic and effort, not just understanding and maatery. #MasteryChat
I do understand that point. But it is so slow it becomes glacial! I know that change is hard, but I can't help thinking about all the students who are being left behind because we do not adapt fast enough. #MasteryChat
agreed! Next year I think I will start doing more test retakes instead of corrections. Really give them a second chance to demonstrate learning. #masterychat
Love that! Started something similar this year, but haven't quite made it to the parent share part yet. Do you have a way that you prefer? #masterychat
We provide each other narrative feedback all quarter. Then we confer 1:1 about what we think the grade should be. We slap one darn letter on it and make a goal for the next quarter. #masterychat
One of my favorite ways to give feedback is verbally. You can learn so much about a students' understanding by a conversation- observing facial expressions and body language. #MasteryChat
I was much the same! High school came easy to me but my 1st sem of college was a wake up call! I was able to adjust but it definitely took a shift in mindset! #Masterychat
A2: That grades are accurate reflections of deep learning. Evidence of learning found in other places. Grades encourage surface learning and point accumulation rather than deep learning. #masterychat
So true! I work with students identified as gifted and so many of them simply do NOT know how to persevere! It is the most important skill I can teach them. #MasteryChat
As a parent, I wanted to know if my kid was working as expected. I didn't want to push so hard there was push-back, but I definitely had 2 slackers. So I found % helpful. #masterychat
I'm contemplating looking at the area of test that students struggled with and giving them an alternative assessment to just make up that section. When your brakes go bad you don't replace the whole car. #amiright#masterychat
I have never much liked corrections. Correcting work is a first step, but having students prove that they have learned it, not just corrected it, is important #MasteryChat
@Seesaw provides a wonderful program to curate student work in which students have choice. My youngest child uses it and the program allows me to comment on his selections of work. It is awesome! #masterychat
A3: What should not be included- Homework
Participation
ABC grades
What should be included?
Feedback
Areas of growth vs Areas of struggles.
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A3: I struggle with this but I feel that grades should only be a reflection of completed work. This can make it difficult but I read one 0 takes 10 100% to make up. I don't know the answer to unfinished work but a grade of 0 is not it. #MasteryChat 1/2
A3: Anything and everything that was taught (and spiraled throughout the year). It should reflect what your focus is! I love error analysis questions on math tests! Let them write and explain rather than just solve!! #masterychat
A3: Important formative or growth benchmarks should be within a final/quarterly/semester grade. Day-to-day items and non-growth markers shouldn't be graded for the grade book.
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Currently using #SBG Academic Grades communicate a students level of understanding on a specific topic while Behavior Characteristics communicate other elements of the student. #Masterychat
A3: what Iβd love to see - and what Iβm working towards - is a list of standards with narrative comments about mastery. What I have to have is 6-8 summative grades and 2-3 formative grades per summative #MasteryChat
A3 #masterychat: We should be careful about putting in grades from early in the term. If you want it to be accurate, it should reflect how the student is doing just before the report card comes out.
A2. It is a myth that grades define a level of success instead of just a glimpse of HOW a student knows the material... so many ways to show mastery and Ss deserve the effort to find their way. #masterychat
A3 The semester grade should show what learning targets have been mastered by Ss. The way this mastery has been shown is less important than the identification of strengths&weaknesses in Ss progress. This is how we identify need & use data to plan future instruction. #masterychat
A3 Grades should be done collaboratively with students. All learning should be included and a full learning portfolio should be considered. Discussions, observations should be part of it. Grading should not be a surprise. We need to transform our views on it! #masterychat
#masterychat A4 Behavior, HW, Daily assignments, zeroes, and attendance should not be included. Semester grades should show how the Ss have met Standards and Clusters taught.
A3 Work Habits should not be included in a final grade if anything they should be evaluated alone-this is our opportunity to create as that are ready for college, career, and life- academic grades need to reflect current level of mastery toward each standard. #Masterychat
A3: I remember having homework, participation, and tests/ quizzes being a part of my grade in elementary school, middle school, and high school. When I got to college and that "fluff" was not part of my grade, it was an adjustment. #masterychat
A3: Grades should reflect SKILLS over content. We have behavior grades on our report cards, wish they were eliminated. Don't know what it's supposed to show?? #masterychat
A1: It's a number. It "shows" them where their child is. It is not realistic at times because of retakes, corrections, or other ways things have been adapted. #Masterychat
A3: 2/2 I look each term at all the work that has been turned in and then look at the outcomes. I have a general rubric but beyond that I try to have the mark reflect their achievement and then have feedback on where to go next. #MasteryChat
A3: include a clear feedback. An area of strength and an area of growth. Clear examples that support the feedback. An opportunity for the students to provide their own feedback and what they will continue and what might be barriers to their success.
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A3: The S best performance demonstration for each indicator. It might not be their first shot, and it shouldnβt be an average of every attempt. #masterychat
A3: I don't like the idea of significantly weighted final / EOC exams - one bad day and an Ss grade can drop 1-2 letter grades? Ridiculous! Tests/exams can have SOME weight, but don't make any 1 assignment a grade killer!!! #masterychat
A3: I know some may argue that effort should not be included in a grade, but I think that, in the end, it does play a role because the student earns that grade. I always think of an iceberg and hard work, etc is underneath the surface while grades are at the top. #masterychat
A3: Reports of student progress should show a student's journey, struggles and success. Do not include "effort" and I would also reject most homework (because it is practice). Don't get me started on extra credit....#masterychat
A3 Can I just get rid of the quarter/semester grade entirely?? My HS Ss freak out because they swear they will never get into college and their lives will be ruined if they get anything less than a "perfect" grade #masterychat
A3: Iβve always disliked that a semester exam is a certain percentage of a studentβs overall grade! Leads to super easy assessment that doesnβt really matter or totally destroying a kids grade with one assessment. Yuck! #masterychat
A3: Read the question too quickly! Agreed with @Stella_Pollard No HW, participation or compliance measures. Should focus on what they can do, content tasks with multiple opportunities/variety of tasks to demonstrate proficiency #masterychat
A3: Nothing connected to compliance should be included in any report of learning. Instead, assessment reports should be focused on Ss mastery and progress toward a standard. Should articulate the Ss learning progress. #masterychat
A3: I'm trying to eliminate homework from my gradebook. I don't really enjoy assigning it (so I don't), and if it is for practice we don't grade a baseball player's batting average based on his batting cage hits/misses. #masterychat
A3 Proficiency toward standards, and separate from that, habits of work. Not a grade level based on their age, but the spectrum of standards across grade levels. #dreamon#soapbox#masterychat
A3: I am struggling with this, for many different reasons. The fact that grades don't really matter in middle school, and that we can't give a zero makes grading hard to justify for me. #masterychat
Q3: explanation of the expectations for that point in the year. Especially with standards based report cards. Thereβs a disconnect between the content taught and how a student performed during various parts of the year. It can be overwhelming for parents. #MasteryChat
A3: Iβve always disliked that a semester exam is a certain percentage of a studentβs overall grade! Leads to super easy assessment that doesnβt really matter or totally destroying a kids grade with one assessment. Yuck! #masterychat
A3) I dislike weighted grades. Students can get a 100% with HW and classroom and fail the class due to a poor test grade. I like standards based grading. #masterychat
#masterychat A:3 I love to ask the kids to compare and contrast on finals. This encourages them to think for themselves and helps them realize there are multiple correct answers. It is what you bring to the "dance".
I totally hear you. I guess I'm wondering if all his work (or lack thereof) needs to be factored into his actual grade. But I've had students like that as well -- they present challenges. #masterychat
A2: That it is realistic. I said that already LOL. I have Ss that had one grade on their report card that was not necessarily reflective of them. I kept records myself of mastery. #Masterychat
True story, Rhea! Final Exams are old fashion. One test on one day does not tell me what a student has learned. It tells me what they have crammed in that day. #masterychat
A3: I don't like the idea of significantly weighted final / EOC exams - one bad day and an Ss grade can drop 1-2 letter grades? Ridiculous! Tests/exams can have SOME weight, but don't make any 1 assignment a grade killer!!! #masterychat
Thank you for mentioning that. Incomplete work or zeroes should never be part of it. There should be no penalties for late work. We need to grade and assess learning only! So important! #masterychat
Ok-- hold onto your keyboards... Our district has a strict policy about gen ed kids (even in K-5) not being allowed to retake any thing....period. Such a hard place for me get to... Thank goodness I'm a SpEd teacher and don't have that constraint! #masterychat
"Collaboration and reflection are essential in any change taking place in the educational system. If you are making choices with students in mind - you can not go wrong!" https://t.co/YS4KE20J2E#Masterychat
A3 I don't think there is any way we can realistically assign a single grade for a semester's worth of work. I know I will get pushback from some high school folks who talk about college expectations, but that single grade is so meaningless! #Masterychat
A3 what shouldnβt be included is βaveragingβ throughout the term. Should only be the final mastery/demonstration of learning (or until the student demonstrates mastery) #MasteryChat
Me too! I feel the same way. I hate averaging grades together. I think it's pointless. Assessing standards is such a better indicator of how students are progressing through content. #masterychat
A3) I dislike weighted grades. Students can get a 100% with HW and classroom and fail the class due to a poor test grade. I like standards based grading. #masterychat
I completely agree. In college, I was having a rough day because my mom was not feeling well. I took an exam which I did not do well on, and I never fully recovered from that one grade. We all have rough days and deserve a chance to shine when we are feeling better. #masterychat
A3: I don't like the idea of significantly weighted final / EOC exams - one bad day and an Ss grade can drop 1-2 letter grades? Ridiculous! Tests/exams can have SOME weight, but don't make any 1 assignment a grade killer!!! #masterychat
I think the answer to unfinished work is "not enough evidence." Or... they come in during lunch or after school and finish it if it's that important to prove their learning. #masterychat Tough road.
A3: Homework / practice / formative assessments should NOT be included in a final grade. "Doing" should not be part of the grade. "Learning" should. Consider sports - it's the game that counts. #MasteryChat
A3: Final grades should reflect mastery of standards through application. Projects and summative assessments should be the bulk of the grade, rather than day-to-day stuff. Kids can have bad days and that shouldn't ruin their grades! #masterychat
What if there were two grades? Not necessarily one based on effort (b/c I think that is hard to judge, but whether students mastered the content (in one way or another) and showed progress in reflective ability? #masterychat
A3 ~ Compliance grades β hit or miss! Negatively impact the grades of Ss have mastered the information, but may not be able to complete hw & positively impact the grade of Ss that struggle academically, but show immense effort! Itβs a catch 22 #masterychat
Reports should be able to clearly state the areas of growth and areas that are a struggle. Many S's display a lot of growth but may still not be achieving at grade level. So disheartening when marks are low and the S has made many gains π #masterychat
This is a really hard question for me to answer as I always feel conflicted with what I think SHOULD be included and what my district WANTS to be included in what is involved with semester grades and final grades. #MasteryChat
A3: Participation should always be counted. Hw lightly if at all. I like to include notebook checks where I see the LEARNING that has taken place, not looking for specific pages or notes. Tests are heavy so I try to balance out with classwork for more accuracy #MasteryChat
Q3- In many colleges, professors will call/email studets after an exam, give them feedback and let them retake the test. Isn't the goal that students can apply, use, and comprehed the infomration we are working on together? #MasteryChat
Plus, so many finals are not truly assessing standards! They are random questions. The finals are not asking kids to analyze, create, or synthesize information. Just guess between A, B, C, or D. #masterychat
True story, Rhea! Final Exams are old fashion. One test on one day does not tell me what a student has learned. It tells me what they have crammed in that day. #masterychat
A3: I don't like the idea of significantly weighted final / EOC exams - one bad day and an Ss grade can drop 1-2 letter grades? Ridiculous! Tests/exams can have SOME weight, but don't make any 1 assignment a grade killer!!! #masterychat
Well, #MasteryChat friends, not to make you hard working peeps jealous, but Iβm off to the movies (!!!) on a Thursday night! Loving this break & loved this conversation!
I'll add that we need to transform parent, student, and administration views on it, as well.
It starts with us keeping these conversation going.
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A3 Grades should be done collaboratively with students. All learning should be included and a full learning portfolio should be considered. Discussions, observations should be part of it. Grading should not be a surprise. We need to transform our views on it! #masterychat
We cannot accept unfinished work. We make sure they do finish, that we encourage and support. There is no choice in not completing learning. Learning is the constant in my class...I will ensure it happens. I will find a way. #masterychat
A3 - In my perfect world Iβd be able to describe the following : Mr or Ms great student has demonstrated that they can apply key principles of our material to their life. They have developed a passion for learning and truly see the value of our class. #masterychat
I think that 'grades' should be able to show growth. I don't like participation grades to skew a growth determination, unless we are assessing social growth. Also, not crazy about HW being part of the equation, either. #masterychat
I think the answer to unfinished work is "not enough evidence." Or... they come in during lunch or after school and finish it if it's that important to prove their learning. #masterychat Tough road.
Since I have been introduced to SBG, I love being able to monitor the growth of my students. I also like that it is skill based and that we do not give points to "cushion" the grades. #masterychat
Trying to figure out how to grade with district requirements of formatives - maybe assessments of mastery of βsub-standardsβ? It goes against my fiber to have to assign numbers in the gradebook to such overt practice #masterychat
I would argue that the very idea of assigning percentages to student work is absurd. We should be evaluating their progress towards a standard, not assigning a number on a paper. #MasteryChat
We barely give hw at our high school so a lot of the progress and mastery achieved in class is where their grade comes from. I calculate participation, this is huge for real world success. #masterychat
Agreed! Especially in composition courses, Ss receive and provide detailed feedback and are able to resubmit a product for another assessment. Goal is progress toward mastery. #masterychat
Q3- In many colleges, professors will call/email studets after an exam, give them feedback and let them retake the test. Isn't the goal that students can apply, use, and comprehed the infomration we are working on together? #MasteryChat
A3 Homework! Ss shouldnβt be penalized for not completing/turning in homework (I teach 1st grade) I do think homework has some benefits for practice or projects #MasteryChat
A3: really tough ??? Depends but anything cumulative, if you are gauging mastery of current standards. The cumulative work should be "formative" to guide the teaching for review prior to the π standardized test. #masterychat
Calling all teachers! Please share your thoughts on grading practices in a 90-second FlipGrid! I'm using this for a design thinking challenge Saturday! https://t.co/S0UP6QLuen Thank you & please share with others in your network! #edchat#caedchat
This topic is so beneficial to me as a student teacher. You all inspire me as a pre-service teacher, and I love learning with all of you. #bettertogether#masterychat
A3: homework, it's not realistic. Parents can help or frankly do it. They can get help from another kid. I never gave homework when I was in the classroom other than reading books. Reading logs, too. Ditch 'em. #Cliff#masterychat
A3. We are blessed with a report card system in elementary that focuses on Ss Social/Emotional growth and faith growth ALONG WITH grades for Ss for all subjects in 4th grade and up..it is the Motivation to Learn aspect that impacts my teaching and Ss' learning most! #masterychat
I ADORE Google apps! I love when they are writing in class that I can be "looking over the shoulder" of all my students at once. Bopping back and forth between documents, leaving a comment or suggestion as needed. It's awesome! #MasteryChat
A4 this is all about how us Ts talk about achievement in class to Ss and Ps, more about learning and less emphasis about the letter grade #walkthewalk#masterychat
A4 - Making grades more target / standards based can drastically help focus on student learning. This takes the focus off of "tasks" and puts it on concepts mastered. It allows for true discussion of student progress and growth as opposed to "completion of tasks". #masterychat
I think that 'grades' should be able to show growth. I don't like participation grades to skew a growth determination, unless we are assessing social growth. Also, not crazy about HW being part of the equation, either. #masterychat
Am suspect of any final report since it assumes that all Ss learn at the same pace (the end of the course/semester). Learners are on varying paths and timelines. Learning is fixed -- the time should be variable. #MasteryChat
Q4. I got an email from my admin saying that I have not entered grades in awhile. I replied "I know". I then just put something in. There! I admitted it! #BoxChecked#masterychat
A4 Yes we must give grades, and we can do it in a positive way. Have more information available with the grades. Have learning artifacts, share a video, share a note that explains exactly what snapshot story it is telling. Know that grades will change/be adjusted. #masterychat
It probably depends on the work given students, the work students did, the effort put in, the standards assessed...... what does a final grade of 82% mean? Too much, and too little. #masterychat
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@bmiller_FSTS, @LaneWalker2, @mrbgilson
In any grading the key is a continued feedback loop between students and the teacher. Too frequently information is forgotten because the grade is entered. Itβs like, βokay, now I have the A, we can forget everything and move on.β #masterychat
A4: Learning remains the focus when it is consistently modeled and emphasized. Grades fade in importance with the process and growth are the focus. Grades become less important but still measures of mastery.
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A4: Although grades are necessary, I feel like we should promote growth mindset and show students that we are all a work in progress. I value lifelong learning, and I want my students to genuinely care and be curious. Those traits will matter far more than a grade. #masterychat
A4 In my SD I have to give grades, and follow the district norms. I try to keep grades in perspective, and don't grade practice or formative assessments. They get numbers and/or feedback only. #masterychat
A4: Just because you have to give grades doesnβt mean that you have to grade everything, or use bad grading practices. Ts are still the chefs in the classroom! #masterychat
A4: I focus on feedback and an opportunity to make changes BEFORE assigning a final grade. My team and I are working on dividing assignments into more than one grade to reflect contained standards. Retakes also put focus on grade NOT being the end of learning #MasteryChat
A4: I have to give grades but I am very selective in what I grade. Other activities build to the graded assignment and that assignment always has feedback verbal or written. #masterychat
A4: I remind my students constantly that the grade in the grade book does not have to be final. They can use my feedback, apply it, and resubmit it. I want them to learn, the grade is just a way to keep score of where they are at for now. #masterychat
As a parent, I would figure my kid was working at around average for the class, likely a little below. If not, I would wonder about the teacher's grading practices. #masterychat
A4) Send home letters with report cards about what the grades mean.This should not b a lot more work or change very much,but explain what the grades mean.If an A means that they can fully prove mastery of the subject, great, if it is just compliance then explain that.#MasteryChat
A4: Many of my assignments are in Google Classeoom. Their grade is either 100 or Zero most of the time, but I can give feedback and the S and I can have good conversation. S can resubmit if needed to show better mastery. #MasteryChat
A4- make the grades based on mastery of skill sets. Do this through purposeful assessments created through backwards design. Then, let them retake it as many times as needed to show that they learned it. Each time they take it again, they should learn something new #masterychat
I AM ONE OF THOSE TEACHERS :( I try to NOT ever talk about grades. EVER. I constantly give kids feedback and focus on improvement. We discuss redoing assignments, relearning, and proving mastery. Everything we do is progress towards and standard. #masterychat
A4 I always advocate for creating assignments in the gradebook that are simply labeled as the standards. You can then assign scores as Ss master standards, not as they complete work! You can still work within the system, but move away from task-completion grades. #Masterychat
A4 Allow Ss to go back and fix mistakes after reflection. The number of kids who are able to identify their problem areas and adjust accordingly with a little help is staggering! #masterychat
A4 Give students multiple options and choice to show what they know. Use projects and fun stuff as retracting tools. Kids learn a variety of ways #masterychat
A4: Separate judgment from feedback, by clearly defining what makes up the #LearningZone (time to grow) and what makes up the #PerformanceZone (time to shine). #masterychat
A4: a push towards mastery based learning. Focus on what matters and that the skills are being truly learned. No more you get this grade because you can play the game. Earn the grade through effort, growth, and evidence.
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A4: While we have to give grades, we can ask students to complete reflection exercises in a notebook that helps them focus on growth rather than the grade. #masterychat
A4 ~ Providing Ss with opportunities to learn from their mistakes on βassessmentsβ & demonstrate their understanding of the content... #masterychat
A4 Million dollar Q - because culturally grades are loaded, it's so hard not crush a S soul if they're not there yet. Like @NowakRo said, getting Ss involved in their own assessment/evaluation is a start. Growth should be the focus, at their pace. That's success. #masterychat
A4: Implement mastery-based approach throughout course: personal conferences, self reflections, feedback, resubmissions, etc. When grade must be applied, let it be a product of an assessment convo between teacher and student. #Masterychat
My team frequently discusses how we would like to have a 2.5 because a 2 is broad. We also discussed how we would prefer to have 4 as the target. SBG is great, but it can be improved just like everything. #masterychat
I disagree that participation should always be counted. UNLESS you're in a foreign language class and need to speak that language in class. I'm with you on the test bit - IF classwork shows learning, not compliance. #masterychat
A4: I've seen some examples of Standards-based grading, not sure if that's the answer.... but it definitely gives grades focus as opposed to trying to understand the difference between an 85 and an 83 in your class or mine.. #masterychat
Q4: itβs important to assess more than content standards. Our kids need to be thinkers and problem solvers. Our society needs them. Integrating soft skills and encouraging Ss to use them as they share their learning and continue to grow. #MasteryChat
A3: We have standards based report cards and students are graded either progressing or mastery. The main focus at conferences is assessment results and learning goals based on results. We stress progress over time on the path to mastery. #MasteryChat
absolutely, I have shifted to grading projects with my Ss, sometimes telling them they are not there yet, and letting them redo and improve for the final grade #masterychat
A4: I give grades, and I keep a constant dialogue with students in Canvas comments. I usually choose one or two points for them to think about and ask students to resubmit until we are both satisfied. #masterychat
(Over the loud speaker...) The Growth Mindset has now left the building... Repeat... The Growth Mindset has now left the building... and it took all of the signs and posters with it.. Thank you. (AHHHH!) ....#masterychat
A4: @westhillstigers encourages us to label each assignment with a standard. That way we can quickly get a snapshot in the gradebook of issues. I always told my Ss I cared more about them knowing then some letter. #masterychat
A4: "Is this your best effort?" - If we build the right culture, we can empower students to revise & improve again....Love the idea of producing for real, public audiences. Products shouldn't only be for Ts #masterychat
A4: Provide students with many different ways to show what they know and to earn grades. Allow students to make corrections and to learn from feedback. #growthmindset#masterychat
My Ss and I have been so happy since I stopped grading everything. They feel more connected to their learning and more empowered to improve! They've even stopped asking me (mostly) if this will be graded #masterychat
Q3: knowledge via standards based assessment. That may be many things depending on the teacher and student. It should not be attendance & homework unless that is where the child shows their knowledge best. & how the knowledge of the subject is real life applicable. #masterychat
A4: Let students have a say in their grade. What can they prove they've learned? Where do they know they can improve? Don't let an average have control over the final grade. #MasteryChat#stuvoice
For my sons, that was about what I would expect. Much more would be celebrated and much less would give me cause for concern & I would investigate. #masterychat
A4: When a student is graded on a standard as opposed to a topic it highlights the focus on learning. An action is required to achieve mastery. #masterychat
Q4- Helpign student understand where they are as learners, having a very clear success criteria, often developed with students. Developmet of a rubic together no secrets learning. Rubirc could equate to letter grade but it would be more abut the learing, than grade.#masterychat
A4 Regardless of system it is about going beyond the grades, as schools and teachers we have power to use those for good. I think students at any level need to understand grades and where they are and what their goals are! #studentledconferences#growthmindset#Masterychat
A4: When I saw that my Ss were struggling with a standard on a quiz, I asked them to self reflect and do a task analysis. It was interesting to see what they thought they got wrong compared to what they actually got wrong. Learning is a journey. #masterychat
Technically learning is always unfinished. We always learn. But not giving time or necessary support to demonstrate learning is unacceptable in education. #masterychat
Very difficult when Ss conflate grades with a personal assessment or judgment. Grades have become markers of self-confidence or self-worth. Ss should never be bullied by grades. Learning is too important. #MasteryChat
A4: I write as much detailed feedback on graded assignments/papers as possible so Ss and Ps can understand the why and how of it all. It may take a lot longer to grade that way, but if it helps even 1 S improve it is worth my late nights! #masterychat
A4 We can help students become more flexible in how they relate to grades. They can decide what their grades mean. We can also use values-based portfolios to help students choose for themselves what βsuccessβ means at school.
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A4: @westhillstigers encourages us to label each assignment with a standard. That way we can quickly get a snapshot in the gradebook of issues. I always told my Ss I cared more about them knowing then some letter. #masterychat
A3. Have you ever felt you are comparing apples to pomegranates? I feel that we speak a different language in Canada from the United States in how we are mandated to assess..... interesting :) #masterychat
One of the subjects I teach is Math. i would just take the math standards (substandards if they exist) and put each one as an individual "assignment" in the gradebook. The grade Ss earn in that assignment can change based on their increasing and continued mastery. #MasteryChat
A4: I think Ss need to know their learning targets and track their own learning. Students should also be given credit for critique & revision. If my Ss did a re-test I gave them the better grade they earned...not an average of the 2! π#masterychat
Keep asking the tough questions - it's how the discussion continues and grows and then we learn... :) And then reflect and tweak once again. ;D #masterychat
A4: The language we use maters too. Saying βthis is for __ pointsβ creates a culture of compliance. Kids want to learn; they can & will learn without points and grades. #masterychat
A4 - Grade small areas of our content area. Make sure students know exactly what the grade means. Also, mix up your grading to a variety of different lessons. #MasteryChat
In that case, the T should look at the assignment. :) The task should assess the learning, and the Ss success should indicate understanding. Most of my formatives are open ended responses or questions that are meant to check for understanding. #masterychat
A2: A big myth is that everything has to be graded or receive a written grade. A lot of grading in my kindergarten can be measured through informal observation and hands on activities. It isn't always just about pencil and paper tasks. Learning happens all the time! #MasteryChat
Teaching our Ss to reflect on and critically analyze their errors is so important! To me, it is far more valuable than any initial instruction they receive. Reduce teacher lecture time, let Ss "give it a go" and address misconceptions as they work through learning! #MasteryChat
A4: When I saw that my Ss were struggling with a standard on a quiz, I asked them to self reflect and do a task analysis. It was interesting to see what they thought they got wrong compared to what they actually got wrong. Learning is a journey. #masterychat
So regardless of what system you use, retakes are essential for building this concept of 'you didn't get mastery on this, yet.' #Masterychathttps://t.co/g8XrlawoRc
One student wrote "I didn't perform to my best ability and got a score I wasn't pleased with, I also know the concept and would like a second chance" I was ecstatic to see that written and was so proud of this 6th grader for being reflective. #masterychat
I've also found it easier for the students to follow the goal for the learning. They know what they need to be able to "know and do" at the end of the lesson. #masterychat#growthmindset#KidsDerserveIt
A4: When a student is graded on a standard as opposed to a topic it highlights the focus on learning. An action is required to achieve mastery. #masterychat
I'll bite again. Why should your child be compared to others? Imagine the diversity of the children in class. Why can't they ALL learn the material? #masterychat
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@LaneWalker2, @bmiller_FSTS, @mrbgilson
#MasteryChat When Ss poorly on an assessment, we reevaluate the test at our PLC to see what parts of the assessment need to be changed or how we need to change the way we are teaching.
Yes! What the heck does that number or letter mean. It is the silliest tool ever and also the most useless. How about, βTiffany, thank you for your dedication to learning. Iβm proud that youβve embraced our content. Youβre a great example of what an excellent student is!β
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@TechieTeachOtt, @LaneWalker2, @mrbgilson
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
Do you still have to make Ss pass off on their scales for a grade? God I HATED passing off on scales - my brain never worked that way (and I was all-county, all-state, and aced Theory 1 & 2 in college, but YUCK @ scales!) #masterychat
One of the subjects I teach is Math. i would just take the math standards (substandards if they exist) and put each one as an individual "assignment" in the gradebook. The grade Ss earn in that assignment can change based on their increasing and continued mastery. #MasteryChat
Not intended at all to be an ouch! Sorry if it came off abruptly, perhaps I am typing too quickly. I think the debate about zeros is an important one to have, but I take issue with the very existence of the way we grade students. Sorry! #Masterychat
A5: My Ss have been completing @quizizz I've made to practice for tests and in class they are loving @DeckToys - they'll do all the paths! That's when I realized they are learners, not just students! #masterychat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
So great! I had a Ss not do well on a quiz, and I allowed him to retake it. Found out after that he was on really strong bronchitis meds for the 1st one. Sometimes things are going on we don't know about. #masterychat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
Students should be encouraged to develop skills related to recovery from failure. Grades can create a risk-adverse student who will never venture into ambiguity. #MasteryChat
A5: Labs! Students have fun, they come up with an experiment, they share the process.
Anything that allows discourse and open discussion for the students!
#FlipGrid tasks + @Screencastify = love love love from my MS students. #masterychat
A4: Allow retakes, redos, corrections. Grades donβt have to create impossibilities in our classrooms. When things are possible, learning happens. We can make lots of things possible when it comes to learning, even with grades. #MasteryChat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
A5 Students have been conditioned to show learning when a grade is attached. They often ask "does this count?". We need to shift/transform so learning is a natural state of curiosity. Support students. The grade will be done together after. Feedback/support is key. #masterychat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
exactly, why canβt Ss modify things on their own and learn they way they want to learn? how do you compare Ss with different learning styles? this is from the tiered system to an adjustable system #masterychat
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@JoyKirr, @LaneWalker2, @bmiller_FSTS, @mrbgilson
Absolutely! I really try to limit myself to less than 5 minutes whole group time each class. A quick check in, goal setting, and then off to work on individual learning paths! No need to talk at them! #MasteryChat
A5 #masterychat : Project based learning is engaging for the kids. They don't see it as work because they're so highly invested in what they've chosen to research.
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
A5: My Ss complete anything I give them on @classcraft to gain XP and GP with #gamification That is our practice and they know it is not for a grade but still get gaming rewards #masterychat
A5: We played game called Nemesis that I made up. Pair of students complete a multiple choice quiz head-to-head. Winner gets nothing, Loser eats babyfood, sing karaoke, get a pie in the face. My Ss absolutely loved seeing Nemesis on my front door when they arrived #masterychat
A5: Ss take exit slips which do not get graded due to it giving students a snapshot of where they are at academically. I also do @quizizz, @nearpod, and @plickers which does not get graded either. We also do not grade homework, but we do go over it in class. #masterychat
A5: Kids aren't much different than we are: they do what interests them (just like we're dong tonight) because... it interests them. The key is making what they want to learn connected to things they need to learn to be successful in their pursuit! #masterychat
A5) I think everything. We still teach manners, subject content, social skills, compliance, rules, how to think, etc. We are helping raise the next generation and they should know that they have value and input. #MasteryChat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
A5: The first thing I didn't grade was a pilot I was asked to run. The second was #geniushour. Now I do the same activities as other ELA teachers - all without points/marks. Forces me to share the reasons WHY we're doing what we're doing. #MasteryChat
#masterychat A5 I would work with my Ss on specific goals, projects, portfolios, STEAM projects, and TED Talks to show application, synthesis, and ownership.
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
A4. Use what impacts learning (John Hattie) .. use pre-tests.. use formatives like L to J, give lots of opportunity to assess formatively such as using tech (Kahoot, Quizizz, Prodigy Math) Assess/praise effort. Give a grade that reflects what they mastered! #masterychat
A5: Students would happily collaborate on an in-class learning project, such as producing a video, just for the sake of doing it. For instance, my kids could not care less if they get grades for making flipgrids. #masterychat
Great point here! I love your mention of personal or small group Intervention prior to re-assessing! This is essential! How do you insure this happens? #Masterychat
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@yenneam, @MrKaplanJK, @SSCMSStallions
Do you also attach a grade? This research shows that the feedback does NOT help if a grade is also attached. That's one reason I've stopped attaching that letter. https://t.co/aFgKIkubDD#masterychat
One discussion I havenβt seen is about requirements for like summatives across teams. Iβd like to do as @TechieTeachOtt discusses, just put the standard as the assignment, but Iβm required to have the same summatives as my CPT #stymiesmyplan#ideas?? #MasteryChat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
A5 haha, not much! well, until Ss value learning over grades. I do have students complete problem sets in class they do not receive credit for, they see the value in the practice, hoping to do more ... #masterychat
So true. I work with a 2nd grader who breaks down when she doesn't get something "right the 1st time. I can only imagine how she feels when she sees a grade of 1 or 2. That tells her she can't do it. #masterychat
A5 continued: Ss upped their game because they did not want to have to do the task. It made them concentrate harder, but GASP no grade. "The man might be onto something" #masterychat
A5: I define whatβs learning and whatβs performance and clearly connect how tasks assigned (which arenβt graded) will improve peformance. #masterychat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
A5: I also did a @flipgrid which did not get graded. Not every assignment has to have a grade tied to it. I use these tools to enhance my instruction and provide feedback because I know that they are learning the material. #masterychat
A5 Students write about topics that matter to them, show appreciation for each other, ask questions out of curiosity, give creative interpretations, and express empathy. The most important stuff isnβt the stuff thatβs graded.
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A4: Allow retakes, redos, corrections. Grades donβt have to create impossibilities in our classrooms. When things are possible, learning happens. We can make lots of things possible when it comes to learning, even with grades. #MasteryChat
A5 Using @thegridmethod. Multiple grading options in my classroom I would use S progress on their Mastery Grid and mastery of various learning targets to represent a grade. No assignment determined mastery but their progress & attempts &experiences into a final grade #masterychat
Learning preferences should not inhibit a S from learning. In my practice, my Ss consult teammates, me, video, text hints... What is imp is that they reach their potential. #masterychat
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@weltyteaching, @JoyKirr, @bmiller_FSTS, @mrbgilson
A5 - We do PBL, What you want yo learn Wednesday, Make it Your Class, Do Great Work for You. These are mostly student driven and totally about a passion for a topic. #MasteryChat
A4: Keep a mindset that grades are just one piece of the puzzle that shows student achievement. I put student performance over grades any day. Observing a student and guiding them on their learning path is much more important than the score at the finish line. #MasteryChat
A5 My students are working on genius hour and 100% engaged! It is not graded at all, but I have students coming in to class with videos they created at home or websites or talks about being on the phone with their partner late into the evening. So much engagement! #Masterychat
Grade or No Grade - we focus on Feedback! Using @thegridmethod Genius Badges, Students become Teachers and Teachers become students. Feedback and learning must be the focus #Masterychat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
Yes, Susan! You are right on the money. @ToddRisser and I have started grading a lot less this year and it has been absolutely fine! #waledchat#masterychat
A5: I also did a @flipgrid which did not get graded. Not every assignment has to have a grade tied to it. I use these tools to enhance my instruction and provide feedback because I know that they are learning the material. #masterychat
A5- my students know that we do a lot of practice work and that it is not practice, but without the practice they may not be successful in their assessments. I use a lot of sports analogies to describe why practice is important, even though its not graded #masterychat
A5: Perhaps the key here is empowerment. When Ss can become creators rather than consumers of information, they are inspired by possessing an agency over their learning. Learning connected to empowerment. #masterychat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
Our students are immersed in Virtual Team Teaching without a grade. They use empathy, communication, 21st century skills, professionalism, and many more by by learning how to connect with their peers 18 miles away through digital tools on a consistent basis. #MasteryChat
A5 Discussions! So many of my colleague assign grades to discussions but I have never really been able to make myself do it. I figure that even if some Ss are not "actively" contributing they are still being exposed to ideas and content #masterychat
Sometimes, I wonder if I am effective and if I have something to offer. This chat helped me realize that we are all trying to figure things out. Thank you for making me realize that I was born to be a teacher. So grateful for all of you! #masterychat
A6 - Give students options to show mastery in your class, formatively assess multiple times during class to assess mastery, provide an exit slip to assess mastery of concept covered...so many options! #masterychat
Not at all. I leave the screen open and can even hit the sounds for a warning before taking points. Or jot names or teams down and reward later. Quests are the best!! #masterychat
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@CoachJonCraig, @TechieTeachOtt, @ClassCraft
We need to keep having the tough discussions with our communities. Teachers, parents, administration, and students alike. We need to do better with our current grading system. #masterychat
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@LaneWalker2, @bmiller_FSTS, @mrbgilson
Q4: #masterychat children should also be taught they are not a grade. Single or double column rubrics offer positive response without shutting down a childβs engagement. Keep asking Ss questions, they will better understand & score better grades.
A5 Students write about topics that matter to them, show appreciation for each other, ask questions out of curiosity, give creative interpretations, and express empathy. The most important stuff isnβt the stuff thatβs graded.
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but in a traditional compliance system learning preferences CAN inhibit learning (less choice), when you move to a more adjustable system every S can learn to their fullest potential with comparison #masterychat
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@LaneWalker2, @JoyKirr, @bmiller_FSTS, @mrbgilson
I've seen several posts about "standards based grading" - is that where report cards have the +, / , - instead of A, B, C? Our district tried that when my son was in elementary (he now a HS sr) and it confused the heck out of Ps (like me!), they didn't keep it long #masterychat
A5: I think students would do most tasks without a grade. Unfortunately, they are conditioned to focus on grades, with this being the driving motivation for so many of them. #masterychat
A5: Our students are immersed in Virtual Team Teaching without a grade. They use empathy, communication, 21st century skills, professionalism, and many more by learning how to connect with their peers 18 miles away through digital tools on a consistent basis. #MasteryChat
A6: I plan on doing a review with my Ss and pulling groups based on their exit slips. I do not want any of my students to fall through the cracks, and I want to help them because I want to see them succeed. I love it when a struggling student performs well. #masterychat
#Masterychat A6 model growth mindset, communicate the importance of ownership of education, ensure learning is fun and purposeful filled with metacognition and purposeful discourse.π
A5: #PBL ... students β€οΈ PBL! We started implementing #PBL this year and kids are working on their projects at home w/o being assigned! They are invested, itβs personalized, S voice & choice, critique & revision, reflection! #masterychat
A6) Focus on the content and their complete understanding of how it applies to their future. Help guide them to be better than the day before. #MasteryChat
A6. DO OR DO NOT. THERE IS NO TRY! And...it's been a great week in the band room. And I don't need a grade to tell me that! Do they all perform at the same level?
NO! But I think they want to. #masterychat
A6 #masterychat : Cognitively Guided Instruction in math. I gain so much more than a mere grade by walking around and observing how studied are choosing to solve a problem.
A6: For me, keeping the focus on learning and process is through modeling and emphasizing things like a #growthmindset. Continuous growth isn't fostered by grades, it is fostered by celebration of the process.
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A5: my question of the week has been successful. About half my kids participate with no grade assigned. Also our Writing Portfolios. No grades but to be shared with parents at our class open house #MasteryChat
A5: As a band director, I
Know my students will show up and give the best performance possible whether there's a grade attached or not. I have a progress chart for my 6th graders. They are excited to show their progress. They haven't even asked if a grade is attached.#masterychat
I want students to love coming to school and class. Not because they have to, but because they want to. We focus on a holistic approach to class. Mind, body, social interactions #MasteryChat
A6: I've seen a big change when using tools like @plickers with my kids. Some at the beginning, and after review or practice, some at the end. The Ss can see their growth, and that's SOO much better than a grade to them! #masterychat
You can break that summative down by standards. What questions align to what standards? Then, go back into the "standards" assignments in the gradebook and update them to reflect what the student accomplished for each standard on the summative test. #MasteryChat
Agreed! I consistently tell my children that they'll never be "in trouble" because of a grade. We always work on learning the concepts no matter how many times they need to try. #MasteryChat
So true. I work with a 2nd grader who breaks down when she doesn't get something "right the 1st time. I can only imagine how she feels when she sees a grade of 1 or 2. That tells her she can't do it. #masterychat
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
A6- Friday is 'game day' in my class. We play @quizizz a ton and the students practice and learn, knowing that there are no grades attached. We use learning as brain breaks from more learning, but they get excited and I love it! #masterychat
A5: My Ss love designing graphic novels and acting out scenes from Romeo and Juliet. The love #design. A lot of times I can give too many guidelines, rather than let them have the freedom to explore. #creativity#masterychat
A6. Failure IS an option! That's how we learn. Issue the challenge. When they fail pick them up and try something else. THEY WILL SURPRISE YOU! #masterychat
I thought you meant speaking up in class. I was never one to talk in school. (I'm making up for that now - I suppose you can tell.) :) I see your point here. :) #masterychat
A6: It's about the Ss. Just today, a S said hello to me & I didn't hear him. Another S brought it to my attention. I walked back and gave him a fistbump and apologized. He smiled. Then it was a fistbump party LOL #masterychat
A6: What if we said, you all get A's ?!?! - All I ask is that you keep pushing to learn, journal/record your learning reflections, and participate in feedback loops. If you walk out with strong metacognition, you get an A!. Empowering or Wishful thinking? #masterychat
A6: when I have to grade I donβt put how many they missed. I put how many they got correct. Itβs small but helps them focus on what they did well and away from the negative. #MasteryChat
A6. Be sure students have learning targets to set their goals that are curriculum based then allow them to see exactly what will be used for formative and summative assessment using language that suits their grade level and understanding as individual learners. #masterychat
Just wanted to give a shoutout to @RaeHughart. She has inspired me in more ways than one and is such a caring teacher who deserves much recognition. I am grateful for her and her continued support. She is an absolute rockstar. #masterychat
A4 #MasteryChat Keep the focus on learning by abandoning traditional points and %. Adhere to grading practices that support learning. If possible, grades should be qualitatively reconceptualized to promote inclusivity and democratic values.
A6: Focus on our Ss future and what they need to succeed. They will need to communicate efficiently, be compassionate, open minded individuals who can solve problems that do not yet exist. Teach them to value each other and the voices they have. #MasteryChat
Empower Ss to engage in the assessment process. Too many times they feel grading is done "to" them. Involve them in the conversation and they'll be more engaged in reflecting on their learning journey. #MasteryChat
A6 Focus on the students and their stories. Build relationships. Be there for kids, support them. Let them know that learning is all that matters and it only matters when it belongs to them. Let them have a voice, let their grades reflect true learning. #masterychat
A6: We have Forget-Me-Not Fridays where kids create something (video, poster, @Buncee) to show one thing they learned that they will never forget #masterychat
A6: I don't know if there is an overnight fix, some Ss are SO used to saying "is this for a grade" because their Ps push grades so hard. Standardized tests don't help. I just keep trying to find new/fun/engaging lessons and trying new things! #masterychat
Like I said, it is a grade for a behavior. We grade based on skill in our department. When we add in the zeros, it looks like the student is struggling in a particular area when often they are not. #masterychat
Hey Thanks Susan! See you on FB LIVE as we chat about our #Masterychat Topic! Feel free to keep the questions flowing there! Gives us more to talk about!
A6: We will look at what we already know! My Ss don't hear enough that they "got it!" And they've accomplished a lot since their first day in my class this year. #masterychat
A6: Tomorrow, we are actually learning about fact, opinion, and bias and how it is used in the real world. We're gonna look at some examples and play a Kahoot. No grades attached. We need to do more things that way. #masterychat
A6: keep it real...and remind students the real world isn't about points. It's about experiences. Embrace a chance to make yourself better and more marketable.
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A6 part 2 #MasteryChat : We've been playing Fogstone Isle from @CignitionGames . My kids LOVE it. They're learning so much about fractions, and there is zero pressure that they're being graded.
A6: We are also holding student led conferences at the end of this year instead of traditional awards that focus on the βtopβ in class based on grades. With SLCβs Ss will show off their portfolios & what THEY learned this year! Every kid makes growth & SLCs show it! #masterychat
A5: I'm currently teaching kindergarten but when I was in 2nd grade we did a lot of writing without grades. I wanted my Ss to focus more on the process than the end product. By focusing on each individual step their end product improved naturally! #MasteryChat
A6 Genius Hour - starting a new round tomorrow afternoon. Mentoring opps with K/1 buddies. Focus on steps to the goal and small victories instead of deficits. #masterychat
A6: We have Forget-Me-Not Fridays where kids create something (video, poster, @Buncee) to show one thing they learned that they will never forget #masterychat
A6: I don't talk grades very much. I focus on the lesson/music being studied. The grades will take care of themselves. Ss should n't be stressed about grades in my class. #masterychat
A1 #MasteryChat The purpose of grades is to report student progress. Parents/community tend to see grades as vindication for their Ss' effort or as a way to rank their Ss against others. Sadly
What a great chat! Thank you for joining and contributing YOUR ideas. We are better together! So happy to keep the conversations going on #MasteryChat this week!
Q5: What do you - or other teachers - currently do in school that students would do without a grade attached? What are some of the reasons? #MasteryChat
What a great chat! Thank you for joining and contributing YOUR ideas. We are better together! So happy to keep the conversations going on #MasteryChat this week!
So great to see @jaycpercell on this chat. He was one of my faculty advisors for our Middle Level advisory program and was a professor who made a difference. #masterychat
A4 #MasteryChat Keep the focus on learning by abandoning traditional points and %. Adhere to grading practices that support learning. If possible, grades should be qualitatively reconceptualized to promote inclusivity and democratic values.
Thank you @JoyKirr for leading a great and reflective chat tonight. It keeps pushing me to rethink my own practices and learn from other amazing educators! Fabulous #masterychat THANK YOU!!!
What a great chat! Thank you for joining and contributing YOUR ideas. We are better together! So happy to keep the conversations going on #MasteryChat this week!
Lane this is so cute! Purposeful learning is essential for our Students. If you are ever looking to explore a design model created from Inquiry-based Learning with a Community Spin, you should check out the #TeachFurther Model on @thegridmethod website #Masterychat
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@LaneWalker2, @MrKaplanJK, @SSCMSStallions, @thegridmethod
It's not so much about the numbers/letters/symbols on the scale as it is about using assessment to identify if Ss can demonstrate mastery. Some people get hung up on how many points on the rubric or what symbols are used. @lisa_westman is a great resource. #MasteryChat
Incredible discussion that has more value than most power point PD presentations. Discussing and sharing is never dull or lacking in value. #masterychat
I have a feeling tonight's #masterychat about grading was one educators were thirsting for. This is a good sign. Thank you to ALL participants, and thanks to the team for letting me moderate tonight!
Thanks for better understanding and food for thought. As a SPED T i dont gibe grades, and im working to understand and think about in a different way. Until next week. #MasteryChat
