#IEedchat Archive

#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday February 6, 2017
10:30 PM EST
  • participatechat Feb 6 @ 10:30 PM EST
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  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:31 PM EST
    Q0: Introduce yourself and estimate the average student loan debt after 4 years of college. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:32 PM EST
    Check out this tool for calculating student debt avg per state, lots of data. https://t.co/1Ey9U2eY88 #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 6 @ 10:32 PM EST
    A0: Deatra Lee, Tech TOSA @puhsd, avg. student loan debt ~$30,000. #IEedchat
    In reply to @puhsd
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:32 PM EST
    A0:Robert Guzman Tech Coach @CMIPerris I would say about 100k for 4 years #IEedchat
    In reply to @CMIPerris
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    Tom here, Pres of Board of Trustees of Mt San Jacinto Com. College. Thx to for-profit colleges, avg debt for grads is over 30k. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    JINX! Or great minds think alike... #IEedchat :-)
    In reply to @DeatraLee_Edu
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    A0: Chris Lara 8th grade US history. Seeing as my debt was 22,000 and my brothers is 90,000 I'd say average is around 50,000 #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner Feb 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    A0: Chad Program Specialist in Perris, w/o cheating, I'd say $50K #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    That's big, You thinking private/public/either? #IEedchat
    In reply to @rguztec
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:34 PM EST
    Q1 in 1 minute..... #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott Feb 6 @ 10:34 PM EST
    A0: Mark Synnott, tech coach for @puhsd. I'd say $60,000. I owed far more. #IEedchat
    In reply to @puhsd
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 6 @ 10:34 PM EST
    A0- Heidi Baynes... SJUSD....$40,000 #ieedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:34 PM EST
    Joseph Williams Exec Director of Technology Perris Union HSD In some cases, tuition is 300% of what parents paid 30 years ago. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:34 PM EST
    It's crazy how it can vary within families. Similar for me & my siblings, all very different experience with debt. #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chrisjlara24
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    Q1: List some deterrants for students and/or parents submitting for financial aid (FAFSA, Scholarships, etc.) #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    I was going on the assumption of private, I always forget about our great state schools #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • Chad_Shaner Feb 6 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A1: I've encountered many parents who don't trust giving out personal information #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A1: They think they aren't ineligible, it is connected to grades & they don't think their parents will provide the needed info. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
      Q1: List some deterrants for students and/or parents submitting for financial aid (FAFSA, Scholarships, etc.) #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 6 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A1. Financial aid forms are complex and can be challenging to complete for both students and parents #ieedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A1:My parents taxes were a delay for me submitting my FAFSA every year. They do their taxes in March #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1:Even w/recent improvements & simplifications, FAFSA is a daunting form for anyone. The non-savvy are understandably intimidated #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: complicated, a lot of information and time consuming #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
      Q1: List some deterrants for students and/or parents submitting for financial aid (FAFSA, Scholarships, etc.) #IEedchat
  • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: Identity Theft #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    Q2 peeking around the corner, 60, 59, 58,.... #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A1: It was hard for me doing it myself. Parents had never done it before. Unknown territory, first time around especially. #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott Feb 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A1: The applications can be daunting. They don't think they'll understand and make a mistake. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    This one surprised me. Students and parents don't want to submit paperwork online - skeptical of the security. #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A1: the fear of rejection forever looms. My girlfriend was denied financial aide because her dad made too much that year. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    Q2: What have you seen to be strong motivators / encouragements to submit for financial aid? #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A1: Ss have the same situation I had. Mom taking care of kids & dad was nowhere to be found. Filling out forms was not a priority. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
      Q1: List some deterrants for students and/or parents submitting for financial aid (FAFSA, Scholarships, etc.) #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A2: I’ve found it best to sit down and help students through the FAFSA. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    Yep and it isn't really a form for the high school for their 1st time. More for the parents with student in tow. #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    I get this, sometimes we need to remind students and friends that not filling out the paperwork is so much worse. #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chrisjlara24
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2: every dollar counts. Even if you only get some $$ at least it's something #IEedchat
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  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2:Free money in the forms of grants was my motivator to get my FAFSA done ASAP. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A2: Far & away, the highest motivator for applying for fin. aid is the amount aid awarded. #2 is the college-going school culture. #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
    I feel ya, that is why I use to get my stuff in as soon as possible #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chrisjlara24
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A2: For me, it was the only way I was going to be able to complete my education. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A2: FAFSA nights, get the community in, feed them, and guide the process. Maybe we can start training model #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    Last question before we get into debunking myths... Q3 ... #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    Cheers to this. My parents always expected me to go to college, AND find a means to pay for it. #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott Feb 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    A2:The strongest motivator for me was it was the only way I was ever going to go to college. There was zero money at home. #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    Totally. #ieedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    Q3: Consider students with visas and those undocumented. What might be on their mind in submitting for financial aid? #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A2: Motivator is the amount of aid, only way to get to college for many Ss. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    I like this reminder about what the money gets used for. Sell the idea of college, not just for academic but also the experience. #IEedchat
    • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
      A2: Far & away, the highest motivator for applying for fin. aid is the amount aid awarded. #2 is the college-going school culture. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A3:This has happened too many times. Don’t wait until the end of the window to talk to Ss. Talk early & talk with their parents. #ieedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
      Q3: Consider students with visas and those undocumented. What might be on their mind in submitting for financial aid? #IEedchat
  • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A2. Once they see the $ amount that they might receive in federal and cal grants it helps. Especially if they go to com. college #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner Feb 6 @ 10:44 PM EST
    A3: Correct me if I'm wrong but Fed Fin Aid is not available if you're not a citizen, right? #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:44 PM EST
    A3: I'm sure there's some fear in submitting paperwork related to gov't. There are still opportunities for some. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A3: Might want to talk to Ss about Accuplacer etc. Some Ss think they can't take it if they don't have all the paperwork. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
      Q3: Consider students with visas and those undocumented. What might be on their mind in submitting for financial aid? #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    Round of Myths: How would you respond to each? M1: "My parents make too much money" #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A3: Clearly there is an climate of political uncertainty right now for our Dreamers. CA offers a substantial buffer though. APPLY! #IEedchat
  • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    It is not. In California non citizens could be eligible for the "CA Dream Act" #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chad_Shaner
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
    I spoke w counselor earlier today. Found out there are some alternative for undocumented. https://t.co/vVukw6Di9Z #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chad_Shaner
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A3: a lot particularly in the current political climate. One thing might be will I get to stay and finish my college career #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
    On this myth, let them them know that they should apply and let the program do the calculations. #IEedchat
  • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
    #IEedchat Many students are nervous that they might be put on a "list"
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    People need to hear about this. Students no matter their status can still be eligible for financial aid. #IEedchat https://t.co/vVukw6Di9Z
    • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
      It is not. In California non citizens could be eligible for the "CA Dream Act" #IEedchat
      In reply to @Chad_Shaner
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A3: Agree with @rguztec. I think they might be fearful. #IEedchat
    In reply to @rguztec
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
      Q3: Consider students with visas and those undocumented. What might be on their mind in submitting for financial aid? #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    M1: You never know what you qualify for if you don't apply. #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    M1: just try and see what happens. No harm comes from that #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    M1: My parents did make to much money first year for certain grants, but FAFSA also made me eligible for some institutional aid. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    Myths 2 and 3 about to pop up #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    It is surprising that so many people don't know about it. Get the word out #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    Years 2-5 (including teaching credential) I was eligible. and FAFSA got easier each time. I hear it's even easier now. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    It is complicated: CA has programs to help but also undocumented students face having to pay out of state tuition $$ #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chad_Shaner
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    M2: "I can't file a FAFSA until my parents finish taxes." M3: "I have to wait until I get accepted into college to file FAFSA." #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    M1: Submit any way, you may qualify for something. #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    M2: You can use the previous years tax info to get an estimate of what you qualify for #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    M2: you can still fill out the application and update it when parents do file #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    M3: It's better to be safe than sorry, apply for it even if you don't get accepted. #IEedchat
  • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    #IEedchat M1. Starting this year "prior prior" Parents can use their 2015 tax documents
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    I've done this several times :) #ieedchat
    In reply to @rguztec
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    M2: You can start the FAFSA and fill in tax info later M3: FAFSA paperwork doesn't require college acceptance. Just do it. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    Myth2Answer: Tell students we now have PRIOR tax year FAFSA, so there is no stress to finish taxes before doing FAFSA. #IEedchat.
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A3: still try. The worst that will happen is you have to try again later #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott Feb 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
    What he said. #IEedchat
    • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
      Myth2Answer: Tell students we now have PRIOR tax year FAFSA, so there is no stress to finish taxes before doing FAFSA. #IEedchat.
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
    I just heard today to that if you do happen to already have taxes done, there's auto import tool built in. #IEedchat
    In reply to @BaynesHeidi, @rguztec
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    Down the home stretch with myth 4 and 5 #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    wow, that is really cool, so different then when I was applying. #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler, @BaynesHeidi
  • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    It is called the IRS Retrieval Tool #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler, @BaynesHeidi, @rguztec
  • mark_synnott Feb 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    I really didn't know all these new tricks with the FAFSA. It was a huge pain when I had to do it 30 years ago. #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    True. I've done that as well :) I've filled out way too many FAFSAs in my academic life. #ieedchat
    In reply to @MathButler, @rguztec
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    You sure it wasn't like 40 years ago? #IEedchat
    In reply to @mark_synnott
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    M4: "They're going to run my credit" M5: "They're going to track me, use my records against me" M6: "This signs me up for debt" #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    You weren't even born 30 years ago, lol. #IEedchat
    In reply to @mark_synnott
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    we gotta spread the word! Students these days have to take hold of this advantage #IEedchat
    In reply to @mark_synnott
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    Right?! I am trying to search for info. #ieedchat
    In reply to @mark_synnott
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
      M2: "I can't file a FAFSA until my parents finish taxes." M3: "I have to wait until I get accepted into college to file FAFSA." #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    He was just a twinkle in his dad's eye, right Tom? #IEedchat
    In reply to @AshleyMSJC5, @mark_synnott
  • Chad_Shaner Feb 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    All students need to be educated about these myths! #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:55 PM EST
    Gather your final thoughts... #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:55 PM EST
    M4,5,6. It's secure. Check it out https://t.co/SGXOM3Tfpm also, nothing to do with credit report. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:55 PM EST
    Myth6Answer:Valid concern. Many Ss feel peer pressure to share w/friends they were accepted to college. They sign w/for profits $$ #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    Share your final thought (FT) on Financial Aid Awareness #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    FT:Let's inform the kids and debunk all these myths. It's in their best interest to know this stuff. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    Final thoughts on #IEedchat. As @jcasap says, “education can change the world, can change families. Education disrupts poverty.”
    In reply to @jcasap
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    M4: to my knowledge it doesn't run a credit report #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    filling out financial aid opens up the option yeah? Students (and parents) still have the choice what to accept. #IEedchat
    In reply to @AshleyMSJC5
  • adamedeca Feb 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    #IEedchat March 2nd is the due date for four year universities! Let's get the word out!!
  • Ixy_pixy Feb 6 @ 10:57 PM EST
    Couldn't join tonight but hello and have a great night #IEedchat!
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:57 PM EST
    I remember only accepting some of the financial aid. Denied some of the unnecessary loan debt. #IEedchat
    In reply to @AshleyMSJC5
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:57 PM EST
    M6: it might be debt but they give you a lot of leeway to pay it off #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott Feb 6 @ 10:57 PM EST
    FT: Share with your Ss the grants that are out there and encourage them to apply for them. I wish someone did that for me. #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 6 @ 10:57 PM EST
    It is difficult sometimes to pay back the loans, but typically worth it. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
      M4: "They're going to run my credit" M5: "They're going to track me, use my records against me" M6: "This signs me up for debt" #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 6 @ 10:58 PM EST
    FT- Also need to talk to kids about responsible borrowing. Don't want them to be saddled with unnecessary debt. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 6 @ 10:58 PM EST
    Yes, and Community Colleges now expecting/requiring FAFSA for aid applications unlike before. #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • MathButler Feb 6 @ 10:58 PM EST
    FT: FAFSA has gotten easier. Get Ss and Ps opportunities to participate. This is 1st step. Still lots of choices to make after. #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 6 @ 10:59 PM EST
    FT: just apply and see what happens. College is expensive and every penny counts #IEedchat