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neprisapp Apr 10 @ 3:01 PM EDT

Hey, #scienceteachers! @ExploreMars & how we plan to get there, without leaving your classroom #whymars #asechat https://t.co/yC0bOqjAtH

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:01 PM EDT

Ok #asechat. The kettle is still boiling, but the babies are asleep so I'll start the chat.

Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:02 PM EDT

#asechat I'm going to go gif heavy.

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:03 PM EDT

The ayes have it. We're discussing TvP. However I'm going to turn it on it's head. #ASEChat you're not allowed to type trad or prog.

JulieBrown01 Apr 10 @ 3:03 PM EDT

#ASEchat me too

MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 2:55 PM EDT

#ASEchat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:03 PM EDT

Or any of the other versions. Think of tonight like a game of Taboo. #asechat

DrDav Apr 10 @ 3:04 PM EDT

I've actually managed to get here for once! #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:04 PM EDT

Here's my question to get the ball rolling: how would you describe your classroom practice? #asechat remember no T or P. They're verboten.

MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:04 PM EDT

I think I was 'new age' but as I've gotten older become more 'conservative' and think knowledge needs more recognition in sci ed #ASEchat

agittner Apr 10 @ 3:05 PM EDT

nor are we going to debate what we mean by "old fashioned" or "up to date" #ASEchat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:05 PM EDT

Can you define either - I don't know what constitutes which... evangelical or charismatic?! #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:06 PM EDT

Not going to define either. How would you describe your practice and why do you do it that way ? #asechat

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agittner Apr 10 @ 3:06 PM EDT

I like to think I am "innovative" which means #cantsticktothesamething #ASEchat

Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:06 PM EDT

I'm more sure what they mean. I chop and change. Depends on group, what I've got to deliver and if I'm boring myself #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:06 PM EDT

Have you a for example? #asechat

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oboelizzy Apr 10 @ 3:06 PM EDT

Need to first decide what we mean by 'knowledge' #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:07 PM EDT

No agreed definitions. It is a flase dichotomy anyway #asechat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:07 PM EDT

Varied then. Like @Science_HOD it depends who and what and when. #ASEChat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:07 PM EDT

Join in. How would you teach your average science lesson? #asechat

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teacherchalky1 Apr 10 @ 3:07 PM EDT

A1 innovative I'd like to think #asechat

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agittner Apr 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

"like"....false dichotomy is a proper half term phrase #ASEchat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

New rule :) you're not allowed to use the word dichotomy either ;) #asechat let's get down to the bones of our practice

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

#asechat linking to real life where possible (I am primary) so has meaning and context

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

interesting talk tonight on girls Chemistry ed in Victorian Britain. They went full out for 'enquiry' learning. Things go around? #ASEchat

stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

even if I could spell it properly #asechat

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stevethedoc1 Apr 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

#asechat effective

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

For instance #asechat

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teacherchalky1 Apr 10 @ 3:09 PM EDT

With plenty of student participation, large models & group work oh and a splash of games chucked in #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:09 PM EDT

What makes it effective and why do you think that is? #asechat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:09 PM EDT

#asechat . Driving moles with straightforward. Here's how now do. Then respiration with sugar and K chlorate in a mug on a stool outside.

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DrDav Apr 10 @ 3:09 PM EDT

I would say that I share some information, then get students to do something with the information they now have. #asechat

MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

Does that context get in the way of the science? #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

Ok tea is poured. Firing up tweetdeck for a more active #asechat.

agittner Apr 10 @ 3:11 PM EDT

Are we talking on a good day or a bad day? #ASEchat

DrDav Apr 10 @ 3:11 PM EDT

Context is the way INTO the science. #asechat

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staffdb66 Apr 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

A1 a bit like Miles Davies ... it all depends on what audience is in front of me and what I have 'eaten' #asechat #random #jazzmetaphor

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agittner Apr 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

The challenge is to find a context for every topic.... #ASEchat #limitsofcreativity

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

Those pro both end of spectrum identify many similar teaching practices - good questioning, feedback, scaffolding for effectiveness #asechat

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

I recommend reading the Lie tree- great example of girls and science in 1900s #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

We're talking about your best practice when you're really thinking about what you're teaching #asechat

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JenniferC_O Apr 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

Oops! #asechat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

I agree. But sometimes students lack the life experiences. #asechat

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agittner Apr 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

about 1 in 10 then...:-( #ASEchat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

So context is king or content is king or are they on twin thrones? #asechat

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

Without context becomes abstract = less relevant and memorable for majority #asechat (primary)

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

It can, if teacher isn't sure of the role of context, detract from why it is meant to be there. It is easy to lose the focus #ASEchat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

#asechat Why, in what way? Have you an example?

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

Yes, I agree with that. Some easier than others of course #asechat

agittner Apr 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

The challenge is to find a context for every topic.... #ASEchat #limitsofcreativity
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oboelizzy Apr 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

surely that depends on how the context is treated/used? or what context is? getting 2 diff for 140! #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

Would the word concrete be better here? In otherwords the ideas being taught have to have a real world example? #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

My classroom practice revolves around questioning. #asechat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

#asechat I use solo to plan differentiated lessons when I'm planning.

Science_HOD Mar 7 @ 3:17 PM EST

My take on #solotaxonomy #5minlessonplan using #comiclife3. Again happy to share.

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

Questioning? Are you a chalk and talk kinda gal or do you give them lots of paper based tasks for them to find information or both? #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

I need to work on my explanations a bit. I go off track. #asechat

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oboelizzy Apr 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

oops apologies #asechat for losing plot just had phone call from daughter to tell me she is getting married!! Bit distracted!

teacherchalky1 Apr 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

Here are a few bit's from the other week #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

So what are those lessons like? #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

And how does that help you in your lessons? #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

Yes, questioning key, got to find out what pupils know before you can build further and you need to keep checking all the time #asechat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

#ASEchat Which one is more important?

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:18 PM EDT

Breaking rules: Is she having a traditional wedding? Congratulations :) #asechat

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teacherchalky1 Apr 10 @ 3:18 PM EDT

I think you can get lots of questioning into most sorts of activities #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:18 PM EDT

Both, e.g. Energy resources: tell them about how each one produces electricity, get them to work out the mix for the island. #asechat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:18 PM EDT

Mine too - was described as "incessant" by my NQT mentor (positively), a few years ago. Hasn't changed. #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

And how best to find out that information? Quizzes? Whiteboards? Think pair share? Group discussion. Diamond 9? <- yuck #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

Questioning can take lots of forms - oral, paper, Kahoot etc - and not just teacher questioning. Need to promote pupil questioning #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

Card sorts! #unashamed #asechat never used a diamond nine.

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

What about knowledge for the love of it? Or because there is a puzzle but no actual use for the knowledge yet? 'Pure' science #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

Mix and match depending on audience, purpose etc #asechat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:20 PM EDT

Science for science sake. Should there always be an application? #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

So to cut things short a second. Would you say you have a varied bag of methods that you use for different parts of the curriculum? #asechat

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stem_maths Apr 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

#asechat think pair share is a great activity. Students love finding different facts from their peers

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

I am no fan of diamond 9s. I find them immensely irritating :) #asechat

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staffdb66 Apr 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

Is now worried that I don't know a 'Diamond 9' ... if only to avoid them based on the reaction #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

^^ this. #ASEChat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

Questioning is my go to it I'm being observed unannounced. Have to ensure you don't lose some kids when it rolls forwards. #asechat

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stevethedoc1 Apr 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

#asechat and for different children, groups, classes

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

Tell you in 2018? After I have taught the new gcse through. #asechat

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oboelizzy Apr 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

Really annoyed I have got distracted cos this is such an important discussion! #asechat got heaps to say but lost plot!

SKLchem Apr 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

#asechat - Also depends on age & ability, not just on topic; I like variety!

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teacherchalky1 Apr 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

I like oral questioning as it allows you to ask specific questions to specific students and helps with differentiation #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:23 PM EDT

Where shouldn't there be an application. Give me a concrete example #asechat

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DrDav Apr 10 @ 3:23 PM EDT

I find diamond 9s really useful for CPD, and we've based one of our research tools on it - but less in classroom #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:23 PM EDT

The purpose of education is to learn content - knowledge & skills (just a different kind of knowledge?) Context is just part of it #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:23 PM EDT

How much of the puzzling is there actually left to teach? Pure science in the classroom? Have you an example #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:24 PM EDT

Yes, sometimes most efficient and sometimes most fun. #asechat shoot me down!

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:24 PM EDT

In primary, being able to relate to experience is so important. As they move through KS2 abstract ideas become more relevant #asechat

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:24 PM EDT

depends on age/stage/readiness #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:24 PM EDT

Don't make me ever do a D9 @DrDav I'll cry #asechat And never put the cards in a diamond. I subvert the system.

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staffdb66 Apr 10 @ 3:24 PM EDT

Oh wow.... now that is a tough question.... #asechat ... 😠

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JulieBrown01 Apr 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

I think you are talking about our Moja island https://t.co/NsP7yAMCld @hrogerson #asechat Setting science and STEM in context is key

JulieBrown01 Apr 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

I think you are talking about our Moja island https://t.co/VuKs0eXeyU @hrogerson #asechat Setting science and STEM in context is key

Alby Apr 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

Sometimes I stand in front of the board, and sometimes a little bit off to one side. #ASEChat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

Never used D9 #asechat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

I always felt (when I managed ks1 and 2 science) that giving experiences was key to them doing well at ks3. Relating to experience. #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

Is there anyone here who thinks the scientific knowledge (we are about practical skills as well etc) should come behind context #asechat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

Atomic theory - understand what something is because it is interesting/mind blowing. #ASEchat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

So much depends on time. If I have extra time I do variety & extra practical to try to cement knowledge & extend understanding. #asechat

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SKLchem Apr 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

#asechat - One of most memorable lessons was storyboarding eutrophication - probably due to the accents & actions; Y10 remembered for ages!

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

I do to. #asechat As my practice has developed I've become more adept at it.

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

Yes, Love this activity! #asechat

JulieBrown01 Apr 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

I think you are talking about our Moja island https://t.co/VuKs0eXeyU @hrogerson #asechat Setting science and STEM in context is key

MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

If no time then "here's some facts." #ASEChat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@alby You are my hero #asechat

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oboelizzy Apr 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

dont think you can untangle them-not completely-very intertwined #asechat

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stormeducation Apr 10 @ 3:28 PM EDT

#asechat @MarcNeesam Context/Content - doesn't the National Curriculum document hold the answer to that?

DrDav Apr 10 @ 3:28 PM EDT

IOP work on Inclusive physics teaching recommends using context as an integral part of teaching. #asechat https://t.co/beB9t14p4M (PDF)

stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:28 PM EDT

Knowing the context is part of the reason/justification for learning the knowledge which is then applied in contexts #asechat

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:28 PM EDT

🙃 don't do much of that in primary- do talk about particles though and that's pretty abstract #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:28 PM EDT

So no nuclear power? Radiation uses? That theory was developed so quickly because of the applications no? #asechat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:29 PM EDT

I do "why is eutrophication like a Shakespearean Tragedy?" one of my favourite lessons. #asechat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:29 PM EDT

#asechat I'm less didactic on the stuff I want to be memorable. A boring lesson for me the sort of "how would a new quarry affect.." jazz.

stevethedoc1 Apr 10 @ 3:29 PM EDT

#asechat only a minimum

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oboelizzy Apr 10 @ 3:29 PM EDT

dont think so-particularly if you compare KS2 with KS3 #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:29 PM EDT

Going out of 4G range... #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:29 PM EDT

Do you teach about Democritus and his grand idea of atoms? #asechat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:29 PM EDT

Ah practical skills! Those shouldn't be separate - practical should support subject understanding. What is the point of practical? #asechat

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DrDav Apr 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

Can ask students to find context - put up a picture and ask them how it relates to today's topic. #asechat

agittner Apr 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

The challenge is to find a context for every topic.... #ASEchat #limitsofcreativity
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SKLchem Apr 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

#asechat - sounds interesting - do tell more....

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

Oh I came so close to breaking my rule there you pro.... #asechat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

Everything dies at the end! #ASEChat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

You can talk about those things but not at expense of subject understanding. Not saying context not important just SK comes first #ASEchat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

Practical skills are just another form of scientific knowledge - it's still content - content can be used to teach other content. #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

Agree. Purpose of learning content in science and technology is to use it in contexts to solve problems and do new things #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:32 PM EDT

But I'd argue that the applications of science are part of the subject knowledge. #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:33 PM EDT

Agree. You can't do anything new just knowing about a context but you can with scientific knowledge #asechat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:34 PM EDT

Skills = knowledge? Not sure I agree. #ASEChat

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ValdemarasO Apr 10 @ 3:35 PM EDT

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:35 PM EDT

Procedural knowledge that needs practice to embed. Believe me when I say that my piano teacher wished I'd understood that more #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:35 PM EDT

Oooh, big question, not always answered very well #asechat But good, effective practical work is an important part of science education.

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:36 PM EDT

#asechat sorry zoned out.

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:36 PM EDT

OK #asechat Let's delve into PvT a bit more. Are your lessons child-centred? :)

stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

Lots of good examples from music and sport showing how skills just a type of knowledge #asechat And the importance of practice for success.

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JulieBrown01 Apr 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

For images showing science/ STEM in action in developing world take a look at https://t.co/pUWsgU3myD #ASEchat

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JulieBrown01 Apr 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

For images showing science/ STEM in action in developing world take a look at https://t.co/rgXtlxImcI #ASEchat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

So how important is procedural skills/knowledge that are possible to be developed in schools? Comes down to what we want ed to do #ASEChat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

I'm not surprised - I'm terribly boring. #asechat

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teacherchalky1 Apr 10 @ 3:38 PM EDT

I try and talk as little as possible, I use questioning to get the students to work out most of the lesson for themselves #asechat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:39 PM EDT

Always - they are about teaching a child! #ASEChat

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:39 PM EDT

practice makes (getting nearer to ) perfect ;) #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

#asechat I've just been to a NSLC course on GCSE practical work. I am much more at ease with idea that content and practical not exclusive.

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

#asechat my good lessons are. If my lessons rubbish is because I've planned more for me.

Rick_Hall Apr 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

#asechat they are in #Lab_13 https://t.co/sKPtqU6zCl children choose topics for investigation - #sciencecapital rises

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:41 PM EDT

Every lesson should be, but that can still include teacher-led discussion if it makes the pupils cognitively active and learning #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:41 PM EDT

Ahhh do the children get to influence the direction of learning? Is context provided to engage them? #asechat

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oboelizzy Apr 10 @ 3:42 PM EDT

sorry guys!-really lost plot,now wedding planning (anyone knows me they will know that is a complete lie!) #asechat enjoy rest of chat!

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Do you think that the learning in your classroom happen naturally or do you design specific tasks to maximise learning? #asechat

dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

#asechat Plenty of learning happens, just sometimes (often?) lots that we didn't expect! Specific tasks important, along with qual. assess.

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

Holistic learning experiences? Nah, I plan lessons. #ASEChat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

#asechat specific tasks. Can't leave it to chance. Used to do that. Lost too many kids.

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

Does age of children your style of teaching or do you teach them in a similar way? Very young children excepted #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

If you want pupils to learn coherently that needs direction, otherwise pupils could be just busy but not learning anything #asechat

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dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:46 PM EDT

#asechat tend to have more direction with younger children, more expectation on out-of-lesson learning come A-level.

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:46 PM EDT

Do you think that students can learn through instruction or do they have to be doing something (e.g. practical) in order to learn? #asechat

stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:47 PM EDT

Definitely, as does their expertise, motivation, behaviour. Teaching always a different compromise to get the best in any situation #asechat

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dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:47 PM EDT

#asechat Instruction needed at the start but then they need to act on it/rehearse if for it to make personal sense to then and 1/2

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

Me too. #asechat

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dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

#asechat become part of their growing understanding. Links to current knowledge v. important in this. 2/2

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

I'm hosting a chat - join in else I may not answer #asechat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:49 PM EDT

I think there are too many knowledge leaps & critical concepts in science to rely entirely on student discovery. #ASEChat

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ljrn42 Apr 10 @ 3:49 PM EDT

Instruction and doing all part of the learning experience. But doing nit essential - eg y7 repro 😹 #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:49 PM EDT

Students can learn things on their own, e.g. by reading a book, and not always through teacher instruction or physical activity #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:49 PM EDT

Oooh a bit of a natural learner view going on here #asechat

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dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

Agree. No point having all these 'giants' in our subjects' past to not stand on them! #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

Pure discovery learning discredited long ago. The centre of the PvT debate is about how much guidance/scaffolding should be given #asechat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:51 PM EDT

There shd always be some teacher instruction and then scaffolded experiences rooted in that. Enquiry can be done this way #ASEChat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:51 PM EDT

So what about teaching the non-heroes too. Is there a place for them or is it all about the big names - relevance to students? #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

Yes, but to build good coherent scientific knowledge which is so much counter to naive everyday knowledge takes good teacher input #asechat

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dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

Indeed. Needs to be a gradual move towards independence of learning if we are to prepare them for HE and the wider world. #asechat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

Melvin Calvin is my hero. #photosynthesis but ain't no way my A Level kids are working that out on their own. #ASEChat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

Does the teacher needs to mediate to ensure alt concepts are minimised (at school level) and there is progress? #ASEChat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

AKA the old dead white guy argument - many historical scientific discoveries were by (now dead) white guys. Do we care? #asechat

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ljrn42 Apr 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

A story can be made out of most - anyone in partic u are thinking for?#ASEChat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

#asechat will I get thrown out if I say I'm not an enquiry fan? #thereisaidit

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

Oh hang on - PvT is definitely taboo :) #asechat

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

I love teaching the stuff I've done in the lab - the kids are astounded at the idea. #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

No. But you might get thrown to the wolves #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

I nearly lasted the hour #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

You're their science heroine #asechat

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dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

#asechat Was really referring to how we can teach them what is known now, not everything needs to come from 'discovery' from 1/2

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MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:55 PM EDT

Miss, you're a real scientist? (We all are. Tsk.) #ASEChat

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MarcNeesam Apr 10 @ 3:55 PM EDT

Enquiry has a role is science education but isn't the be all and end all #ASEChat

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dave2004b Apr 10 @ 3:55 PM EDT

... 'evidence'... although this in itself can be misleading given how long the actual research took sci to get to our current posn #asechat

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Science_HOD Apr 10 @ 3:55 PM EDT

I can handle that. I'll give some open objective and questionable loose method. Then watch choas rule. #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:56 PM EDT

A reminder - tonight's topic was this #asechat Taboo rules rescinded - Are we traditional teachers / progressive or neither/both?

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:03 PM EDT

The ayes have it. We're discussing TvP. However I'm going to turn it on it's head. #ASEChat you're not allowed to type trad or prog.

stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:57 PM EDT

Who else could do this, it needs PCK? Pupils can't themselves, otherwise they will stick with naive views and misconceptions #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:57 PM EDT

Not really, they are mostly about getting the curriculum down as well as possible. #asechat

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A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 10 @ 3:57 PM EDT

I'll let you use the taboo words now - even dichotomy #asechat

deraji1 Apr 10 @ 3:58 PM EDT

On 18 Oct '15, US-Saudi killed an entire family, had 2 kids & a pregnant women!Sakain-Saada https://t.co/1HjiKT1u0D #asechat #warship

hrogerson Apr 10 @ 3:58 PM EDT

But! We do child-centred bits when we can. Allowing children to choose tells me a lot about them. #asechat

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stuartphysics Apr 10 @ 3:59 PM EDT

I resorted to spectrum earlier :) I was trying #asechat

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twinklresources Apr 10 @ 3:59 PM EDT

I've used this- great way to give context #ASEchat

LessonToolbox Apr 9 @ 3:44 PM EDT

Visual representation of how many Earths could fit inside the sun (over 1,000,000) via @TheWeirdWorld #asechat #ukedchat #aussieEd #physics

MrsDrSarah Apr 10 @ 3:59 PM EDT

I think people have to have enough background knowledge to do the enquiry - hard to not lead to misconceptions if given free rein. #asechat

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