#NoVAedchat Archive
Regional edchat for Northern Virginia educators. All are welcome to join us as we talk all things education.
Wednesday May 17, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
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May 17 @ 8:00 PM EDT
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May 17 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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! Please introduce yourself and let us know your favorite class when you were in K-12.
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi y'all! I'm Kendra-glad to chat with y'all tonight!
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Joe ITRT Stafford, Virginia looking for a great
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timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Tim from Charleston I liked anything as long as we were doing something rather than sitting.
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hey everyone! I'm Margaret, HS Tech Coach at Chantilly HS. I <3'd reading in K-9 and Math in HS!
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:02 PM EDT
My favorite class in K-12 was History Class and of course PE
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi Joe!
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In reply to @jcjarski51
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi Tim! Good to see you :)
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What was your favorite 'something' to do?
In reply to @timothy_tanner1
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi Margaret!
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In reply to @Techy_Margaret
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hey Tim! Hey Joe! Hey Kendra! Glad you are all here for
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timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Any class where i was doing rather than just sitting
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In reply to @techinteaching
NoVAEdChat
May 17 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1 What can you do to really know what kids know when then come to you or start a new topic?
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hey
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! I'm Margaret, HS Tech Coach from Virginia. We host
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- regional weekly ed chat from 8-9pm E each Wed (now)
mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hi! Missie from Falls Church, VA. I ❤️ French and art
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1 Using Stations can help you get some face time with kids to talk w/them. Or preassess them! :)
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: A quick way to know what kids know is to simply talk to them. Another great way is a quick check or Pretest if you will.
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hi Missie! Glad you're here! :)
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In reply to @mafarrace
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Agreed. Having conversations is so important, but can be challenging.
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In reply to @jcjarski51
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1 SOoooo love doing some sort of investigation at the start of a unit. Shows quickly where you are! Also a brain dump is great!
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:07 PM EDT
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I find that kids want to be heard and if you give them the chance to show what they know or can do they open up.
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:07 PM EDT
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- PS im joining in another chat at the moment...talking about hosting/starting regular twitter chats. So I might tag both. :)
mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1
#fcpswl
has préassessment you can use w/written and then spoken comes through w/initial conversations. Ss LOVE to show off!
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timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: Give them a turn and talk question and walk around and listen.
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Listening is critical...and so often overlooked.
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In reply to @timothy_tanner1
mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:10 PM EDT
I'm grading Ss final written assessments! 3 left in 1 class. Itching to finish ...but don't wanna leave here!
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In reply to @Techy_Margaret
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Yoooohooo! It's
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time!
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:11 PM EDT
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that is key. Ss are very perceptive and if they can tell you are just placating them they will shut down.
In reply to @techinteaching, @timothy_tanner1
MrGreeneEdu
May 17 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Hello!
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Happy Wednesday!
mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1 sometimes there are a gathering of comfort games that help clue in to specifics too- depends on feeling Ss give me
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:13 PM EDT
That's definitely an itchy feeling. It will feel sooooo good to get them done!
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In reply to @mafarrace, @Techy_Margaret
jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:13 PM EDT
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It is
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Hi Michael- good to see you!
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In reply to @MrGreeneEdu
ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1 collaborative docs for brain dumps, jigsawing pieces of the background to have Ss lead the lesson
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:14 PM EDT
TOTALLY agree with this! They know when it's halfway or the real thing.
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In reply to @jcjarski51, @techinteaching, @timothy_tanner1
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Yes! Collaborative work for students/classes is a great way to find out what the class knows.
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In reply to @ProfeTravis
ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Hi
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! HS Spanish teacher in VA!
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May 17 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q2 How might educators support students in developing goals or plans for their own growth in your class/school?
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Hey Michael! Glad you're here!
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In reply to @MrGreeneEdu
ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:15 PM EDT
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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In reply to @Techy_Margaret, @jcjarski51, @techinteaching, @timothy_tanner1
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 We can model goal setting and growth. Ask kids to set a goal for the month/quarter/semester. Try
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!
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 I think anytime we can encourage goal setting - not just in Sept & Jan it's good! Sets a focus for Ss
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: Ts can support Ss with goal setting by first modeling. Modeling is key and then guiding them until they understand.
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ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 one of the challenges of PBL this year has been giving Ss free range of choice, they set the goal and product: choice = scary
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:19 PM EDT
It is really scary! But remember, it doesn't have to be ALL or nothing. Some groups need fewer choices.. others thrive on more
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In reply to @ProfeTravis
timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2: 1st thing would be to teach them what that means and how to do it. Then give them opportunities to to goal set and monitor.
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:19 PM EDT
It's true. Choice can be scary at first. It means Ts have to rethink what they've been doing. Good for kids?
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In reply to @ProfeTravis
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Yes! Teach them 'to fish'! Be there to be their support.
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In reply to @timothy_tanner1
jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:20 PM EDT
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Choice can be scarey, but it is also very liberating as well. Ss will trip along the way, but they will learn and move forward.
In reply to @ProfeTravis
mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2 started together. Voted where interest =high-spoken/written; took a look at EOY rubric in basic format & plotted goals
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teacherknikki
May 17 @ 8:20 PM EDT
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It's simple, but I <3 having my Ss write to-do lists for long-term and short-term goals. You see their focus sharpen drastically
timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Keep at it though - these skills takes practice (adults and students).
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In reply to @ProfeTravis
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:21 PM EDT
This is true! So often we think we have to do ALL THE THINGS now. Really, we have to model esp for Ss with little prev choice
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timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2: 1st thing would be to teach them what that means and how to do it. Then give them opportunities to to goal set and monitor.
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ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:21 PM EDT
YES! It's been a learning process def! We're finding a balance! (With some awesome support from our SBTS 😘)
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In reply to @Techy_Margaret
ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:22 PM EDT
The interesting thing is that they don't know what to do with the freedom!
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In reply to @jcjarski51
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:22 PM EDT
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In reply to @ProfeTravis
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:23 PM EDT
When assessing choice, focus on the learning standards- Single Point Rubric can help:
https://t.co/Yd9y60VYkJ
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@cultofpedagogy
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:24 PM EDT
That's so funny, isn't it? Mine used to tell me to just give them a multi-choice test. It's daunting for them, too!
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In reply to @ProfeTravis, @jcjarski51
jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:24 PM EDT
That's a great teaching moment. They will get it give it time. They just need to retrieve prior knowledge from Elem. school
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In reply to @ProfeTravis
NoVAEdChat
May 17 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Q3 Do the grades you give reflect mastery? How can we ensure they do?
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mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:25 PM EDT
It's kind of interesting to almost put them in a backwards design mode. We want this...what do we need to get there, etc
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3: Start at the end...Backwards design is where you start. Start with the end in mind and allow the Ss to have Rubric before.
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3 I don't give grades anymore - but I think so many times they represent compliance with rules and completion of tasks.
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3 Have a convo with kids about what they know. Do they know what they're learning?
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mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Ugh! WL students can write essays but are stuck picking correct letters 4 part of final! Drives them nuts now.
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In reply to @techinteaching, @ProfeTravis, @jcjarski51
ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3 I think it goes to does the assessment require mastery? Using the content in an authentic way not a 50 ? Scantron
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:30 PM EDT
This is SUCH a big one. Are they engaged or are they compliant? Focus on learning, not behaviors.
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In reply to @Techy_Margaret
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Yes. What does test taking teach? Although the reality is that kids are forced to take those hideous things.
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In reply to @ProfeTravis
HCPSTinyTech
May 17 @ 8:31 PM EDT
I love backwards design! It creates great opportunities for critical thinking and problem solving!
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In reply to @mafarrace
jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Also key is to check in with the Ss with quickchecks to see how Ss are progressing and how to help. Doesn't need to be a test.
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timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I agree. Focus on learning and not a score. That is not easy.
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In reply to @techinteaching, @Techy_Margaret
mafarrace
May 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A3 Minimum numeric grades. Trying next year to ditch them. Suggestions?? I give lots of feedback already w/no numeric
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ProfeTravis
May 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Here's where I struggle... i feel like kids would benefit from some accountability for behaviors
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In reply to @techinteaching, @Techy_Margaret
timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Right! Can they explain it?
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In reply to @techinteaching
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:34 PM EDT
...or even do something with not. Not only regurgitate facts.
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In reply to @timothy_tanner1
jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:34 PM EDT
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They do have accountability. They don't complete the work they don't move on. Its more of an adult consequence.
In reply to @ProfeTravis, @techinteaching, @Techy_Margaret
NoVAEdChat
May 17 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q4 How might students assess what they know and what they still need to master?
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:35 PM EDT
...a logical one? How innovative ;)
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In reply to @jcjarski51, @ProfeTravis, @Techy_Margaret
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4 Maybe students could track their learning & standards they've mastered. Perhaps they could drive the direction of learning.
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4 I'm a huge fan of asking students to self-assess. They often are harder on themselves than we are!
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4 I also like asking Ss to demo mastery of standards. A team is doing a portfolio. Ss select what to include for each standard
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4: Getting Ss to know what they are expected to know at the start. Tell them here are your goals now how you getting there?
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:38 PM EDT
I agree- behavior is important, but it's not reflecting their learning. It should be something separate.
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In reply to @ProfeTravis, @Techy_Margaret
timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A4: Could definitely be tied back to goal setting ?: Are they moving towards their goals/solving problems/learning from them?
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:39 PM EDT
But it is. if the work is meaningful. And they don't have it. THEN they have a natural consequence of not being prepared/ready
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In reply to @ProfeTravis, @jcjarski51, @techinteaching
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:40 PM EDT
And that is uncomfortable, something to deal with and learn from. If the work is something to just do because T says do it....
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In reply to @ProfeTravis, @jcjarski51, @techinteaching
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Then there is no natural consequence. It's an artificial one at best. We need to make work meaningful and connected
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In reply to @ProfeTravis, @jcjarski51, @techinteaching
teacherknikki
May 17 @ 8:40 PM EDT
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One MUST focus on behaviors bc no learning can occur if the class is out of control & the T ignores the issues.
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:40 PM EDT
...then that's a WHOLE other issue, a sadly prevalent one. What's the point of the work?
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In reply to @Techy_Margaret, @ProfeTravis, @jcjarski51
Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:41 PM EDT
#soapbox
#sorrynotsorry
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In reply to @ProfeTravis, @jcjarski51, @techinteaching
jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:41 PM EDT
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Goes back to if you as the Ts are working harder than your Ss then the activities need to change.
In reply to @Techy_Margaret, @ProfeTravis, @techinteaching
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:42 PM EDT
The best ClassMgmt is engaged students that are interested in what's going on in the class. It doesn't need to be a grade.
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In reply to @teacherknikki
jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@vmhill2
I see you lurking out there. Come join us!
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NoVAEdChat
May 17 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Q5 Have you built in points for reflection and redirection as the year/quarter/semester progress? Tell us about them!
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5 We do a self-eval and a manager eval with our tech aides in 2nd Qtr. Model what a real job eval is like.
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5: I am always trying to get better, so I reflect after every lesson. It can be tiresome, but it also keeps me on my toes.
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timothy_tanner1
May 17 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A5: Reflection time is so important but many times left off due to time constraints.
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:50 PM EDT
There is Standard 7 binders, but if you wait until those checkpoints it is already too late. You and Ss have already changed.
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Is there a thing as too much self reflection? I can be too hard on myself...always wanting to improve
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NoVAEdChat
May 17 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Q6 In planning for the start of next year, I will...
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:55 PM EDT
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I have such a high expectation for myself. When others say something I get very angry because I have already fixed it.
In reply to @Techy_Margaret
techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A5 Reflection is the point that solidifies learning in the learner's head. It's so important to keep around.
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Techy_Margaret
May 17 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A6 Ss need to set their goals for our class - something they want to learn or do by a specific date. I want to be purposeful
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techinteaching
- Moderator
May 17 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6 Give learners more agency over the pace/topics/product that they learn. Hopefully they'll know more what they're learning.
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jcjarski51
May 17 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6: In planning for next year I want to be more assertive and clearer with my ideas and plans. Helping Ts help Ss more with BL
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NoVAEdChat
May 17 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thanks for a great conversation! Join us next Wednesday for a Tool Slam! Blended and Personalized Learning
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