#OhEdChat Archive
#OHEdChat was started by an ad hoc group of Ohio educators and other interested people. For information and updates about the chat, visit https://ohedchat.wordpress.com/
Wednesday July 5, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#ohedchat
. Please share your name and your favorite summer vacation spot.
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Our moderators for tonight's
#ohedchat
will be Bryan Drost and Tricia Ebner. Please follow Bryan
@DrBDrost
participatechat
Jul 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#OhEdChat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/MMxejtOuzx
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
I'm in
#ohedchat
! New HS principal at Warren JFK in NE Ohio
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Neil Gupta, Director of Secondary Education for
@wcsdistrict
- I am now hooked on Cruises!
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Welcome, Alyse, and congratulations!
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In reply to @AlyseConsiglio
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
#ohedchat
will be in a Q1, Q2 with responses A1, A2, etc.
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Lauren signing in! Middle school cross-categorical teacher in central OH.
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DrBobbyMoore
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
New Website went live today. Few updates still needed. DM any feedback. Thanks!
https://t.co/9YRqAb54F0
#ohedchat
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I'm here! Elementary school SPED IS (autism unit grades 2-5)
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drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome, Alyse! Glad you are here!
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In reply to @AlyseConsiglio
abney_heather
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Heather Abney, HS principal from VA checking in! St. Thomas was our favorite spot~only been once!
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Great to be learning with you, Neil! I'm going to need to get your advice on cruises sometime!
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In reply to @drneilgupta, @wcsdistrict
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Steve Miller, love the ocean beach, this year was Myrtle Beach
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AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Thanks! Oh, and heading to Disney this month.
#bestvacationspot
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In reply to @TebnerEbner
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Don't forget to include the hashtag
#ohedchat
so everyone can follow along.
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome, Lauren! Great to have you here tonight!
#ohedchat
In reply to @Johnston_Rams
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Meredith joining from SW Florida. Living the dream of island life vacation 24/7.
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Melissa checking in from Columbus...an ELL teacher in dublin city schools.
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome, Meredith! Love that picture, and love learning with you each week on
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Checking in...Elementary school intervention spec. Fav vaca spot is NYC!
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome, Melissa! So great to have you joining us tonight!
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In reply to @melsa777
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Forgot to share my favorite vacation spot...wherever my pln is...
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mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Thanks -
#ohedchat
is one of my favs
In reply to @TebnerEbner
apptasticteach
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi all melissa in NW. Favorite vacation is now going on a cruise!
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drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
I've only gone this once - but I am hooked! I'd be glad to share my lessons learned!
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In reply to @TebnerEbner, @wcsdistrict
MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Aaron, Circleville
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome! Great to have you joining us. I've never been to St. Thomas--pictures always look gorgeous!
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In reply to @abney_heather
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi,
#ohedchat
! Robert here from Los Angeles. Here is my new
@Edutopia
article on expanding your
#PLN
through edchats
https://t.co/gyZ2QzfuMv
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Katrice Quitter, Gifted Coordinator and Education Consultant from
@HamiltonCoESC
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome, Aaron! Great to have you here tonight!
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In reply to @MrConn32
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Me, too! I had a blast a couple weeks ago. Still reliving the memories with my sunburn!
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In reply to @apptasticteach
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome, Katrice! Great to have you joining us tonight!
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In reply to @katricequitter, @HamiltonCoESC
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Totally true...thank you for the welcome!
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In reply to @DrBDrost
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Thanks for being here Katrice
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In reply to @katricequitter, @HamiltonCoESC
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome, Samantha! Never been to NYC - intimidated of how big it would be!
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In reply to @samanthaevers15
SharonKrumwiede
Jul 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Sharon from Ohio, a behavior consultant. Favorite vacation spot in the summer, a quiet beach!
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Family has talked about doing a Mediterranean cruise sometime. We'll see!
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In reply to @drneilgupta, @wcsdistrict
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is the purpose of assessment?
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drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi, Heather! Never been to St. Thomas but I'm sure it's awesome!
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In reply to @abney_heather
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
you either love it or hate it! I love Broadway so it's the place for me!
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In reply to @drneilgupta
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Great to see you here again Robert. Loved your piece on chats
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In reply to @RewardingEdu, @edutopia
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I'd love to go to NYC...
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In reply to @drneilgupta, @samanthaevers15
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome, Sharon! The beach can be such a wonderful, relaxing place. Time stands still there--or seems to---or we want it to!
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In reply to @SharonKrumwiede
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Thanks for being here Aaron
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In reply to @MrConn32
raypeyton
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Ray so far
@YosemiteNPS
&
@OlympicNational
checking out Oahu next week
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#ohedchat
. Please share your name and your favorite summer vacation spot.
apptasticteach
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Love it but I grew up there.
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In reply to @drneilgupta, @samanthaevers15
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
You win! My kids are 13 and 16 - I hardly saw them all week!
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In reply to @apptasticteach
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Wow! Love it!
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In reply to @TebnerEbner, @wcsdistrict
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Just saw that tonight, Robert! Thanks for sharing it, and thanks for being here!
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In reply to @RewardingEdu, @edutopia
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: to inform instruction but mostly used for grades. 😞
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Thanks for joining Melissa
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In reply to @apptasticteach
thegridmethod
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Great question from
#OHedChat
! Curious to see some of the responses.
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is the purpose of assessment?
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RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Thanks so much, Bobby! I think it has inspired a lot of educators to try chatting.
#ohedchat
In reply to @bobby__dodd, @edutopia
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1. For students to gain understanding of how well they are grasping a concept in order to apply it to future learning.
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MrStevenKerr
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1:To check how much Ss are mastering the standard and how effective is my teaching, allow you to either move forward or go back
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Thanks for joining Samantha
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In reply to @samanthaevers15
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: I think it depends on who you ask teachers vs admin vs students. I would say to inform future instruct and monitor progress
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
I agree
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In reply to @RewardingEdu, @edutopia
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Love this response---focus on the STUDENTS.
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mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1. For students to gain understanding of how well they are grasping a concept in order to apply it to future learning.
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apptasticteach
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
True assessment to show growth
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drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: To monitor student learning & provide feedback to the teacher, student, parent, and others on current state and future needs.
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Students are a HUGE important part of assessment
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A2: to see what was LEARNED (not ask what was taught). Then to adjust and game plan. Assessments are half time not final scores
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Gotta have that teacher and student growth. love it!
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In reply to @MrStevenKerr
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Perfect ages! And, I agree - no internet package for a week!
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In reply to @apptasticteach
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: To find out what Ss know, and give baseline info.
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Thanks for being here Melissa
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In reply to @melsa777
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Jim Smith, assessment and data, Minnesota. Looks like something I am interested in!
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Good observation, Samantha. Stakeholders may have different views on why we use assessments.
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In reply to @samanthaevers15
SharonKrumwiede
Jul 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: to guide effective instruction and make data driven decisions
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abney_heather
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1. The purpose of assessment is to improve students' learning.
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MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1. Checking for mastery and DRIVING instruction. Providing feedback to students.
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melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Thank you! Missed you at
#ISTE17
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In reply to @bobby__dodd
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Thanks for being here Steve
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In reply to @swmiller123
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Welcome, Jim! Thanks for joining us tonight on
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In reply to @MrDataGuy
MrDurajWildcats
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: to provide feedback. S's need to know where they are and how they can reach where they need to be.
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is the purpose of assessment?
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MrsVandeborne
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1:To determine knowledge and remediate learning.
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TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 So that Ss (and too a lesser extent Ts) know what the next steps in learning should be
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Thanks for joining Heather
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In reply to @abney_heather
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Tyler (Pickerington Alternative HS admin) Best vacation spot NYC
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Thanks for joining tonight
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In reply to @AlyseConsiglio
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: To be a "temperature" check for Ts and Ss. Did WE accomplish the goal?
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1: What is the purpose of assessment?
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Welcome, Tyler! Great to have you joining us tonight!
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In reply to @tyarnold18
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Q1
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is the purpose of assessment?
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I love the WE. Teaching and learning is collaborative!
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In reply to @katricequitter
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Sorry I'm late to the chat! Lori from Canal Winchester joining in
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melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: ultimately it guides instruction, show areas of need/enrichment...should always look like a test!
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Hudsonwife16
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Shawna from AZ! I am a Prek/kindergarten readiness educator. My fav vacation spot is San Diego
#Ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Tiffany here chatting from Stow, Ohio! This is one of my favorite twitter chats!
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RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 The purpose of assessment is the same for teaching: to move each student forward bit by bit each day. Progress-process-product
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Welcome, Lori! Thanks for being here. Always great to learn with you at
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In reply to @loriannegreen
winstonsakurai
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Gauging understanding.
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Thanks for being here Lori
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In reply to @loriannegreen
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Agree. And the most important stakeholder is the student, so they can understand next steps and take ownership of learning.
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In reply to @TebnerEbner, @samanthaevers15
MrsVandeborne
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
I just got here too!
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In reply to @loriannegreen
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1. Of course, Wiggins also added his two cents to the purpose of assessments.
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Hudsonwife16
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: To see where a child is and how far they have come
#OHedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner
theJoySama
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Joy from Stark County joining a little late.
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Welcome, Tiffany! Great to have you joining tonight. It's one of my favorites, too.
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In reply to @TechieTeachOtt
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Can you differentiate between that -- it appears you are separating "test" from "assessment"
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In reply to @melsa777
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: to get an understanding for where students are at. Using results can show student gaps but also instructional design gaps.
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Welcome, Joy! Thanks for being here tonight.
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In reply to @theJoySama
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: assessment is like a performance, at this point what can you do. It helps the instructor know where improvement can be made
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TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Yes, and that is where the importance of open, individual conversations between S and T come in!
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In reply to @DrBDrost
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 purpose of assessment is to determine progress & give feedback to all so as best to determine where to go next PER ind. student
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
So could we argue that assessment is NOT separate from teaching -- i.e. it is teaching?!
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In reply to @RewardingEdu
Terencewhite23
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: the purpose of assessment is to determine how much growth an individual has done and can do in the future.
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melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
TS see assessments as tests. I disagree...assessments are anything that show growth and learning.
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In reply to @DrBDrost
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Absolutely! Have to assess to know what to teach. First step to instruction!
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In reply to @DrBDrost
raypeyton
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 to gauge the effect of instruction
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is the purpose of assessment?
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loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Thank you!! Glad to be here with you all!
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In reply to @bobby__dodd
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Assessment is like taking a patient's temperature at the dr.'s office: it shows where we are at this point in time.
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loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Thanks:)
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In reply to @DrBDrost
casehighprinc
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A little late to
#ohedchat
tonight. Brian, HS principal from Mass. stopping by.
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Great analogy!
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In reply to @TebnerEbner
DrBobbyMoore
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 To identify how impactful the learning was and what course corrections should teachers and students make
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Welcome, Brian! Thanks for being here tonight for
#ohedchat
!
In reply to @casehighprinc
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Yes, so glad to be learning with you!!
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In reply to @TebnerEbner
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Sorry,
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, late to the game! A1 Assessment helps guide instruction, to pin-point areas of weakness and strength.
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
***Q2 is coming up in one minute!
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MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A test can be an assessment, but so can an observation, a performance, a conversation. These can be tied to standards as well.
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In reply to @DrBDrost, @melsa777
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I love the phrase "course corrections." It's not an evaluative thing--it's a directional thing--where next?
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In reply to @DrBobbyMoore
apptasticteach
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I guess I see assessment as a snapshot as to where we are at that point in time.
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ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Theres an
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@melsa777
In reply to @melsa777
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I don't do homework...my ELLs struggle enough then to add another layer. Need to think outside the box with assessing.
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In reply to @DrBDrost
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Snapshot is a great term for it. How can we help parents and students see it that way?
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In reply to @apptasticteach
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Yes! Assessment is, in my opinion, embedded I everything happening in class. I am ALWAYS learning about my students.
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In reply to @melsa777, @DrBDrost
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Yes, assessment, formative feedback, instruction, collaboration, discussion- they're all intertwined aspects of teaching/learning.
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
So could we argue that assessment is NOT separate from teaching -- i.e. it is teaching?!
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In reply to @RewardingEdu
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
That's the same analogy I use with my stakeholders!!
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#greatmindsthinkalike
😋
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Assessment is like taking a patient's temperature at the dr.'s office: it shows where we are at this point in time.
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: What makes for effective assessment?
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JillBarker1
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A-1What about those poor test takers?!
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thinkLawUS
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
3 Tips for Helping All Students Become
#21stCentury
Communicators-
https://t.co/2FRGsp6lh5
via
@ASCD
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#NWOTchat
#scitlap
#education
amberphillipsaa
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
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amberphillipsaa
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Amber here from Indiana! My favorite spot is Puerto Rico!
In reply to @TebnerEbner
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
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In reply to @TebnerEbner
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Exactly...can look like many different things...
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In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @DrBDrost
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
So true! Don't we make decisions based on body language and facial expressions sometimes? Isn't that a form of asmnt?
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In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @melsa777, @DrBDrost
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2 I think differentiation makes for an effective assessment. Teaching SPED I need to be flexible in the method I assess
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MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Exactly, and a confidence thing - I can do this.
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In reply to @TebnerEbner, @DrBobbyMoore
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Yes! Assessment and tests are not at all synonymous.
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melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
TS see assessments as tests. I disagree...assessments are anything that show growth and learning.
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In reply to @DrBDrost
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 giving students a choice in how they show their learning; using the data to inform decisions
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: What makes for effective assessment?
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melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Good point...we are always assessing then situation...he he.
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In reply to @TebnerEbner, @TechieTeachOtt, @DrBDrost
casehighprinc
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 Assessment is a gauge for teaching & learning. It's not Scantron, but hopefully a benchmark 4 ongoing dialogue between Ts & Ss.
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Welcome, Amber! I'm a Hoosier by birthday (Buckeye by marriage). Great to have you joining us tonight.
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In reply to @amberphillipsaa
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 Effective assessment measures what is or will be taught (depending on if it is pre or post instruction.) Should be Stnds based
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samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Differentiation makes for effective assessments. Teaching SPED I've learned you need to be flexible in the method you assess
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drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Stretch, Ability to measure learning on the intended standard, providing information to feed forward.
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
You should see my facial expression right now -- it's lighting up with this amazing discussion!
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In reply to @TebnerEbner, @TechieTeachOtt, @melsa777
apptasticteach
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Ss is based on relationship & how it is phrased. Ps are harder until the state sees it that way instead of the end all be all
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In reply to @TebnerEbner
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 I like a three-part means of assessment: praise, support, & next steps. All about progress no matter where each S is now.
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ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Well let's go then
@melsa777
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in the house
In reply to @melsa777
MrStevenKerr
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2:Have multiple ways for Ss to show their learning,have the ability to give Ss feedback, be able to change if Ss aren't mastering
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Yes! I actually find that those nonverbal hints to learning are more valuable than any score.
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner, @melsa777, @DrBDrost
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
And a confidence thing for students AND teachers.
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy, @DrBobbyMoore
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@TebnerEbner
ME TOO!!! Hoosier born, Buckeye by marriage 😜
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Welcome, Amber! I'm a Hoosier by birthday (Buckeye by marriage). Great to have you joining us tonight.
#ohedchat
In reply to @amberphillipsaa
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Can be an exit ticket, a dialogue journal, and thumbs up...
#ohedchat
In reply to @amberphillipsaa, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost
casehighprinc
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2. Choice.
#ohedchat
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
And documenting verbal feedback can be a data point looking for evidence of learning.
#ohedchat
In reply to @amberphillipsaa, @DrBDrost, @melsa777
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Tell us more about this stretch, Neil?
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Voice and Choice are my two favorite words in education!
#ohedchat
In reply to @loriannegreen
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Welcome my new random friend...
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: application, can S apply learn to new situation
#ohedchat
DrBobbyMoore
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Timely, formative, no stakes, rigorous, high level, frequent enough for course corrections, and valued by both Ts & Ss
#ohedchat
apptasticteach
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Giving Ss a choice to show what they know...make sure they know what is being assessed prior to starting
#ohedchat
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2. As graphic shows, we are evolving. Working toward fostering student investment. Give us another decade and we will get better
#ohedchat
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: I'm going to go a slightly different direction here, whatever give a clear picture of Ss and their abilities.
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
RT Q2: What makes for effective assessment?
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MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2. Assmt can come in many forms, effective assmnt should try to give all learning styles a chance to showcase what they know
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MrsVandeborne
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2:It should be authentic, relevant, challenging, applicable & allow the Ss to display their knowledge of content and/or ability.
#ohedchat
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: does the assesment accurately judge, measure, observe, ECT what it intends.
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RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 Assessment is also three part in that it should be peer to peer, self-assessment, & teacher feedback.
#ohedchat
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: student choice. Show what you know:Write, draw, present, create. Value originality/creativity (bc we do in the "real world")
#ohedchat
SharonKrumwiede
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2:Utilizing multiple sources of data and information to form assessments. Individaulized.
#Ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I think stretch is sometimes the one that has frustrated my Ss (& me) the most. No stretch = compliance, not showing growth.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta
abney_heather
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2. Love this graphic on assessment and had to include a pic of a few of my students since they drive every decision I make.
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: effective assessments are ones that give you needed information about your students...helps you move in any direction next
#ohedchat
massignmenthelp
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
8 Best Online Courses to Master Data Science
https://t.co/8nCU0diGZK
#ohedchat
#principallife
#hybrEdtech
AssignmentHelpN
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
7 Productive Activities to Make the Best use of Summer Vacations
https://t.co/7IWgJiMM2a
#ohedchat
#principallife
#hybrEdtech
RandallSampson
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 an effective assessment is a manifestation of an effective task
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Hudsonwife16
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Making sure you are getting the results
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In reply to @TebnerEbner
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
agree, feedback more important than a score
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RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 Assessment is also three part in that it should be peer to peer, self-assessment, & teacher feedback.
#ohedchat
MathDenisNJ
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Have you read the story of the best teacher I ever had? It's at
https://t.co/LHNz3fxiid
#kidsdeserveit
#makeitreal
#tlap
#fledchat
#ohedchat
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I love the graphic! From where did it come? Did you create? And may I use it?
#ohedchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Such a good point. Is there ever an "end" in learning? (Gosh, I hope not!)
#ohedchat
In reply to @RewardingEdu
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
This was a huge area of growth for me as a teacher. I didn't challenge some of my students at the top.
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Great graphic! I need to do some deeper thinking on how to move from orange to green. Any advice?
#ohedchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1 and A2: For an assessment to be effective FOR learning there must be descriptive feedback from the T and a response from the S.
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Gen Ed Ts have a lot to learn about differentiation from sped Ts
@samanthaevers15
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In reply to @samanthaevers15
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Data that helps you understand where your Ss are in the learning process. Almost there, Beyond the Goal, etc.
#ohedchat
ChadLensman
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Helps Ts and Ss define the next steps in learning!
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
We've been connecting here how long and never knew that! How funny!
#ohedchat
In reply to @loriannegreen
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2. I sure love quoting all of these experts in the field of ed tonight :-)
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Having questions (and the rubric) written that could allow for students to show what they know at all levels.
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
edtechgirl
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Multiple entry points - tiered Qs that help Ss make connections to prior lrng, show progress to mastery & apply what they know
#ohedchat
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I completely agree! We're here for more than providing accommodations to inclusion Ss :)
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya
MrsVandeborne
Jul 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Well thank you!
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#lifelonglearning
is the goal for all. Hey, isn't that what these chats are all about? 😁
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Such a good point. Is there ever an "end" in learning? (Gosh, I hope not!)
#ohedchat
In reply to @RewardingEdu
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I'm sure some of my students could have shown mastery of the standard well beyond what I gave them, but I didn't challenge them
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
Terencewhite23
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Absolutely! But I was referring to creating lifelong learners. Mastery could mean learning is finished.
#lifelonelearning
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
RLong308
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1: Robin - LRC TA - IL, "Are we there yet?" Gauge & if we aren't there, where are we? & what is the next step?
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1: What is the purpose of assessment?
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Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I like this a lot! Definitely going to reflect on it and make some changes!
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2. As graphic shows, we are evolving. Working toward fostering student investment. Give us another decade and we will get better
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
One of my favorites: "Triples"--piece of paper divided in 3rds. Ask the same question, at 3 points. Compare responses.
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy, @amberphillipsaa, @DrBDrost, @melsa777
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Ditto!!! It's a small world!
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner
winstonsakurai
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 Differentiated evidence to assess progress toward the learning objective and and can also be adapted to future instruction.
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 That's a lot to fit in 1 tweet! This may seen like an easy out, but any assessment that gives us real info about Ss is a good 1
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Ooh, I like this!!!
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner, @MrDataGuy, @amberphillipsaa, @DrBDrost
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
And how do you accurately predict stretch? Personally, I like multiple data points, like portfolios, than single pts for growth.
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Feel the love
@melsa777
#ohedchat
#LongLiveRandomness
In reply to @melsa777
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
***Q3 is coming up in one minute!
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Love the notion to see all the levels that our kids could show what they know!
#ohedchat
In reply to @katricequitter
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
I always say: systems, strategies, scaffolds, & support make great facilitators and ensure learning for all.
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Giving kids strategies is SO important with assessment.
In reply to @RewardingEdu
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
And ELL teachers...we are the king and queens of differentiation!!!
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @samanthaevers15
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
This is a terrific graphic--and as our Ss experience these later stages, when they Ps, they will better understand asmnt's role.
#ohedchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2: An opportunity for your Ss to rate/share how confident they are in their learning.
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Listening to what students share, take notes, then reflect on what their comments are - return to jointly develop game plan
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech
MrsVandeborne
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
We created a living and dynamic google sheets content area rubric bank aligned to standard that all the teachers have access to.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @DrBDrost
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
And it goes further. Responses to formative assessment, by both teacher and student are at the core of a functioning PLC.
#ohedchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
I can't predict it - I should have questions that went above the standard to see just how far the students could go.
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech, @TebnerEbner
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
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bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Great point. Love the term "differentiated evidence"
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mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Not sure of source - of course you can
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In reply to @loriannegreen
winstonsakurai
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2 Differentiated evidence to assess progress toward the learning objective and can also be adapted to future instruction.
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Love it! Thanks.
#ohedchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Assessment includes skills, but must not end with just rote memory
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
What about those skills that aren't necessarily application based -- i.e. kids that have to say count to 10?
In reply to @swmiller123
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: Its all about the test and testing! So sad :'(
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
That is the direction I took as well. Does it matter so much what it looks like? Or what it tells us?
#ohedchat
In reply to @Johnston_Rams
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: People assume assessment is just the "unit test" or "high stakes assessment". Can;t forget about ongoing/formative assessment!
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Yess really a big fan of the coteaching model
@melsa777
@samanthaevers15
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In reply to @melsa777, @samanthaevers15
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3. Too often we use these two words interchangeably. Would be a good topic for a PLC to discuss.
#ohedchat
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3
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TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
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RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Absolutely, Bryan! That's when you know that your teaching is truly integrated and meets the needs of the
#WholeChild
.
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DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Well i love it when assessment are facilitators themselves!
In reply to @RewardingEdu
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
21 years teaching gifted, and I am still finding areas where I didn't realize all they are capable of!
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta
brynmw
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I've always said that if I ever stop learning as an educator, I would need to move on.
#ohedchat
MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3. From many parents/Ss they are only about grades. So many Ps/Ss only worry about letter or %
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Me too...had the opportunity to participate last year with 8th grade ela...loved it!!!
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @samanthaevers15
RandallSampson
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
No comfort zone, Ts adapting to the needs of EACH kiddo...❤️ it!
#OHedChat
In reply to @melsa777, @ToutouleNtoya, @samanthaevers15
ChadLensman
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: You have to assess every S at the same time on the same day.
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apptasticteach
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
That we are teaching to the test, testing makes the kids
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bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 That the EOC accurately measures what Ss learn.
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mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
The leader in you was curious enough to take a minute to ask - WAY TO GO!
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Response from the S---that is something that I think is easily missed.
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy
Hudsonwife16
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: That they are not effective and serve no purpose
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner
Terencewhite23
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
That's standardized testing is the end all be All
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katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Preassessments aren't worth my time!
#ohedchat
abney_heather
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3. Misconception- assessment is just for grading purposes.
#ohedchat
phhscience
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2 allows Ss to show what they know
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RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Assessments should never be thought of as ends or outcomes. They are best when used as jumping off points for new beginnings!
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
They are all of our kids...some@need to change pronouns in order to be inclusive not exclusive!
#ohedchat
In reply to @RandallSampson, @ToutouleNtoya, @samanthaevers15
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: That teachers can design better questions that assessment experts.
#ohedchat
MrStevenKerr
Jul 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3:Ts believing that they need to cover more material even if class struggled, that % doesn't show mastery of subject
#ohedchat
MrsVandeborne
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3:don't always have 2be written. Assessments can be tasks, presentations, prob solving, creation, flipped solution focused, etc
#ohedchat
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: testing is the only way for kids to show their knowledge is the biggest misconception I have seen.
#ohedchat
SharonKrumwiede
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: That we teacher to the assessment. That that is the sole purpose of instruction. A formative assessment.
#Ohedchat
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
If we predict future learning on existing data we miss the point. Our job is to shatter the ceiling of prediction. To excel.
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @bethctech, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
So how do we change this?
#ohedchat
In reply to @Hudsonwife16, @TebnerEbner
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Love that idea! What a great artifact of student growth! And so simple!
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner, @MrDataGuy, @amberphillipsaa, @DrBDrost, @melsa777
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Growth over grades takes the fear out of assessment. Expansion, exploration, and depth are what we should seek.
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
This is a good one...can be done any time, any place...
#ohedchat
In reply to @ChadLensman
RLong308
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Assessments & Test Taking...the data does not always represent how a Ss engages in the classroom.
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
#ohedchat
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: biggest pet peeve misconception: homework is an effective means of assessing student learning.
#ohedchat
edtechgirl
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Assessment is not something we apart from instruction that we do" TO Ss. It should be a part of the learning we do WITH Ss
#ohedchat
RandallSampson
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Misconception about assessments=> it's about a bubble test sheet & recall
#OHedChat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
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MrsVandeborne
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
They are in my google drive and shared with the teachers to modify. This way students see a consistent rubric format.
#ohedchat
In reply to @JillBarker1, @drneilgupta, @DrBDrost
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: they prepare kids for college and life. "Kids have to be able to take tests to be ready for college!" comment makes me ill
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: That assessment = test. Assessment isn't just a test.
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loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 assessments aren't valuable....so very untrue
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Hudsonwife16
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
The proof is in the pudding
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
No it doesn't what it looks like, I have Ss with md and they can't look the same bc my Ss don't have the same capabilities
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
WINNER WINNER - chicken dinner!
#ohedchat
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: biggest pet peeve misconception: homework is an effective means of assessing student learning.
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
One problem is that we don't get existing data from EOCs in a timely fashion. How can this data drive my instruction?
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: also Ts say they only give tests (assessments) to give grades
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MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3. From many parents/Ss they are only about grades. So many Ps/Ss only worry about letter or %
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: That some test results are tied to what students know, versus having compliance things attached to it. Beware grade pollution
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I'm able to participate in
#ohedchat
because of an authentic connect I made at
#iste17
with
@melsa777
#PLN
MrStevenKerr
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Mic drop on homework as a means of assessing
#ohedchat
In reply to @AlyseConsiglio
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I agree. When I hear formative assessment does not work - this is usually the reason why.
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In reply to @TebnerEbner
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Have you found any great ways of getting people to look at that differently?
#ohedchat
In reply to @bobby__dodd
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I agree, Jim!
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @bethctech, @TebnerEbner
amberphillipsaa
Jul 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Couldn't agree more!!!
#ohedchat
In reply to @AlyseConsiglio
DrBobbyMoore
Jul 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Q3 That they need to be graded. Some Ts will grade anything you put in front of them...including their lunch 😄
#ohedchat
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Loved hearing
@Mr_Oldfield
talk about assessing different Ss on different days at
#EdCampLdrOH
- great way for personal feedback
#OHedChat
In reply to @ChadLensman, @Mr_Oldfield
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Yes!!!!!!!! Love being able to connect with others...
#nevermetastranger
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
That's a great point also wondering how this is possible
@bethctech
@MrDataGuy
@DrBDrost
@TebnerEbner
@drneilgupta
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I love this one too!!!!!!
#ohedchat
In reply to @bobby__dodd
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Agreed. We need to make distinct separation between formative and summative assessments.
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
Shellieh98
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@jack
@Twitter
@TwitterSupport
can U please explain why
#ohedchat
is trending, but
#CCNBlackmail
is not? I'd like to understand how it works
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I was following those tweets---looked like such an awesome discussion!
#ohedchat
In reply to @bobby__dodd, @ChadLensman, @Mr_Oldfield
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 a lot of times, too distinct of a separation between formative and summative assessment. Are they not essentially the same?
#ohedchat
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 We're working on a paradigm shift for assessments. Need to convince Ts, admin, Ss, &parents that edu is an evolution-not an end
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Good question. I'm still trying to wrap my head around their thinking...
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrConn32
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Yeh, have our grads tell us how in college they don't take 100 Q MC tests
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: another misconception is that students must MASTER the assessment...why can't we praise growth even if it's not mastery
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Some people connect well with this graphic about the differences and similarities between the two.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Data driving instruction must be classroom based -immediately available. Its the only way teacher can have instructional agility
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Right now, too many data pts to compare my new Ss to their last yr's test (at least for me!)
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @MrDataGuy, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Great graphic to share!
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Some people connect well with this graphic about the differences and similarities between the two.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
How would you separate them? What is the distinction in your mind?
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: I should only assess what Ss have seen and practiced. In fact, I should give them the exact items as practice the day before.
#ohedchat
phhscience
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 The assessment shows if the Ss know or don't know the matter
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
***Q4 is coming up in one minute!
#ohedchat
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
I love this image!
#ohedchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216, @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
This girl in on it with the best graphics tonight!!
#ohedchat
@mjjohnson1216
🤗
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Some people connect well with this graphic about the differences and similarities between the two.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
raypeyton
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 please see
@bethctech
response.
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3: When they don't do well on an assessment, it's because of the Ss. Instead, let's reflect as Ts about the instruction!
#ohedchat
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
It can - but the gaps have to be filled THIS year. Its why formative is so essential.
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @bethctech, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
I love this description! Although I use formative assessm for my Ss to taste their soup, which makes rightly makes them the chef!
#ohedchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216, @drneilgupta, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Attended a great PD session in Denver on this one--took me a half-hour to frame a moderately "okay" question. YIKES!
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @MrConn32
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Thank you for the compliment.
#ohedchat
In reply to @loriannegreen
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Interesting question. Not sure how I feel about it. Will have to ponder more...
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @bethctech, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Q4: What roles should kids play in the assessment process?
#ohedchat
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: Ss won't take it serious if I don't count it in their grade.
#ohedchat
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
I think every parent needs to know this information too!
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
They can be the same but almost feel like they need to be different
@TechieTeachOtt
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
YES! and by definition, EOC=end of course, so not formative. I like formatives better--more chance for Ss growth towards mastery>
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Knowing the intended purpose of the assessment. Are we providing feedback to instruction with the teacher or rating/ranking?
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4: they are all of it, if no Ss, than no assessment! They also need to own their learning.
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Wonder if formative can be pieces of summative
@TechieTeachOtt
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: I guess i jumped the gun on this one... student choice! Have Ss decide how they want to show you they know their stuff!
#ohedchat
loriannegreen
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4 Ss should be able to choose HOW they show their understanding
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Interesting question. How are you visualizing this?
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @TechieTeachOtt
bledsoe_mrs
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: misconception- all assessments must have points attached or they have no value
#ohedchat
DrKMattson
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4; Students should have choice in the method/product they use to show what they've learned
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I am in agreement, Beth. The EOCs are summative and shouldn't be treated as formative.
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: Ss should have choice in their assessments...should be created with them in mind and maybe even helping...
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
I admit, I am a fan of revision even with summative assessments. There's always room for improvement. Wish we were SBL, not pts.
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @MrDataGuy, @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta
MrStevenKerr
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Honestly, Ss should be able to give us feedback regarding the assessment of each lesson, so that we can meet their needs
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
I would argue (though this is tough in current schl models) that we then need to eliminate summative assessment. It is too final.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Ss can definitely at times be a part of choosing the assessment, I.e. Choosing a project type, style of presentation, etc.
#ohedchat
ChadLensman
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Provide choice in how Ss show mastery!
#VoiceandChoice
#ohedchat
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: kids should have a fair amount of input because they need to be able to showcase what skills they've learned in a way that
#ohedchat
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Yes! Designed with a clear purpose & multiple entry points, a preassessment can be a Ts best friend!
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrConn32
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
I love love love SBL & grading. I hear ya.
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech, @DrBDrost, @MrDataGuy, @drneilgupta
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4. Great list you might want to bookmark of 60 things Ss can do for assessment.
https://t.co/VjG2b0pSC7
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
RT Q4: What roles should kids play in the assessment process?
#ohedchat
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
THIS should be our assessment focus. The prize is learning.
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Funny thing I'm starting to feel the same with working with Ts
@katricequitter
#ohedchat
In reply to @katricequitter
DrKMattson
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Ss should be able to accurately "predict" what will be on an assessment by you've made learning targets clear and specific
#ohedchat
raypeyton
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 let them demonstrate what they know and how they might use their knowledge
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Q4: What roles should kids play in the assessment process?
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I agree, but not sure it's realistic in a state accountability system. I just want to be realistic on the purpose and use of it
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 I no longer refer to ELA assessments as writer's "conferences." I now call them writer's CONVERSATIONS. Equal T&S interaction.
#ohedchat
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
input on designing or evaluating assessment? I think it could be powerful for Ss to have input in both!
#ohedchat
In reply to @tyarnold18
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Why not let Ss decide when they are ready?
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
But why? Do we need a distinction? Shouldn't all assessment inform further learning and therefore be formative?
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya
samanthaevers15
Jul 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
This is such a cool concept! I have never thought about gicing the Ss control of their own assessment timeline!
#ohedchat
In reply to @swmiller123
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: have SS reflect on their effort and performance on their assessment. Predict their own grade.
#totallymeta
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I've never done well with thinking about what is realistic, lol. I'm a dreamer :)
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I think many things need to be changed at the state level...too much testing of ALL Ss.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @TechieTeachOtt, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 In my ideal classroom, Ss need to reflect on what they know, and to make goals for what they need/want to learn next.
#ohedchat
ChadLensman
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
It has to go both ways in order to be beneficial!
#ohedchat
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 I no longer refer to ELA assessments as writer's "conferences." I now call them writer's CONVERSATIONS. Equal T&S interaction.
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
There are points where an asmnt is final--thinking tests for pilots, boards for medical, etc. Also opportunity to retake.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @TechieTeachOtt, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Your checking student progress throughout the design process
@TebnerEbner
@TechieTeachOtt
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner, @TechieTeachOtt
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Peer and self-assessment are essential parts of the process...helps to build autonomy and independence.
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
RT Q4: What roles should kids play in the assessment process?
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I think #5 is the most important from this list - what do you think?
https://t.co/BaUo4Xx26J
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
And so, retake being an option, it still feels formative to me. But that's just me.
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner, @drneilgupta, @TechieTeachOtt, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
We need dreamers! It's a GOOD thing, though it can be frustrating to be one sometimes! Keep dreaming!
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost
abney_heather
Jul 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. My son is in MS-this yr one of his teachers allowed him to create his own learning targets. Guess which class he excelled in?😃
#ohedchat
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: Ss should know what to expect! Shouldn't be a "gotcha"! Let Ss decide HOW they will show what they know.
#ohedchat
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I agree 100%.
#ohedchat
In reply to @samanthaevers15
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I weighs argue, though, that even in design and prototypes, there is always a next step. A 2.0 version.
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @TebnerEbner
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
They are the target of proficiency, The path to proficiency is paved with assessment used formatively
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I would love to know more about this!
#ohedchat
In reply to @abney_heather
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Oh, me, too! And some of my Ss want the easy route of "what do we memorize?" Reflection and goals = too much thinking for them.
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @drneilgupta, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q4
#OHedChat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
RT Q4: What roles should kids play in the assessment process?
#ohedchat
acottos
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: Ss need to reflect, provide methods of assessment, create projects that show mastery. Ss need to self-assess! Sorry I'm late!
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
***Q5 is coming up in one minute!
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
I still have a dream that state accountability goes away someday....
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @bethctech, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Me too!
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner, @abney_heather
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Sure butif we're truly talking about form and summ assess they have different functions so should be diff I think
@TechieTeachOtt
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3: Misconception: Assessment is all about evaluation and coming up with the grade.
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
I agree.
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech, @TebnerEbner, @TechieTeachOtt, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Formative. They can retake as many times as needed!
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @ToutouleNtoya
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q5: What strategies will students use for self-assessment to monitor their progress toward the targets/goals/objectives?
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
I like the idea of having accountability, b/c all Ss desire quality edu, but this model doesn't achieve that goal.
#ohedchat
In reply to @drneilgupta, @TechieTeachOtt, @MrDataGuy, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes! One of my favorite examples of this is
@cultofpedagogy
's Self-Paced Learning article. Ss as leaders of their own learning!
#ohedchat
In reply to @swmiller123, @cultofpedagogy
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3: Misconception: Students should not be involved in assessment...other than completing the test.
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5. Already posted a minute ago when I should have waiting :-/
https://t.co/VjG2b0pSC7
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: I struggle with this...help me please!
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Then you put that baby on the road and see if they can drive
@DrBDrost
@TechieTeachOtt
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @TechieTeachOtt
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Informed by trajectories of learning
#ohedchat
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
They are the target of proficiency, The path to proficiency is paved with assessment used formatively
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @drneilgupta, @bethctech, @DrBDrost, @TebnerEbner
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: a voice in making assessments. Give Ss options to show mastery: videos, presentations, demonstrations - not "fill in ovals"
#OHedChat
PegGrafwallner
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3 That assessments actually measure what a student knows
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
acottos
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: pose open-ended questions of why...make mistakes on purpose to see if they can explain what I did wrong...check reflection.
#ohedchat
LMurray_
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: Ss look at their results & create goals based on area of need and create plan to meet it.
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I will have to look it up...I love
@cultofpedagogy
#ohedchat
In reply to @katricequitter, @swmiller123, @cultofpedagogy, @cultofpedagogy
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: One of my favorites to share with Ts:
https://t.co/AhHbKt5J65
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5 My CCP Ss review their RD rubrics to ID areas of growth, write reflections after final draft to show improvement. Goobric!
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
The road test would be summ I think
@DrBDrost
@TechieTeachOtt
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @TechieTeachOtt
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: Having a writing journal and rubric help.
#ohedchat
MrStevenKerr
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: Have Ss own their learning and track it. Having growth mindset set in so they can set goals and reach learning goals
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: Use model papers for Ss to evaluate using rubric, then do same with own.
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Call me radical, but I think grades are fairly useless and rarely represent growth.
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @ToutouleNtoya
acottos
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Did you steal my answer??? Great "seeing" you!!
#ohedchat
In reply to @bobby__dodd
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: Misconception: Feedback is not worth the time, as kids only care about the final grade.
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
LOL -
#OHedChat
In reply to @acottos
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
YESSS. And our job is to change that trajectory, in the correct direction of course.
#ohedchat
In reply to @swmiller123
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
RT Q5: What strategies will students use to get kids to self-assess?
#ohedchat
Johnston_Rams
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
How can we as educators change this?
#ohedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: Misconception: Feedback is not worth the time, as kids only care about the final grade.
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q3: What misconceptions do you hear about assessment?
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I love model paper technique! We look at one before they even draft, so they can better understand requirements.
#ohedchat
In reply to @TebnerEbner
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Yes because assess are ongoing when we're talking learning we want to know along the way
@TechieTeachOtt
@TebnerEbner
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @TebnerEbner
RLong308
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4: Instead of "setting kids up"...set kids up for "success!" Teach
#perseverance
Learning is a journey, not a destination.
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Q4: What roles should kids play in the assessment process?
#ohedchat
MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5. Ss in the
@TheLeaderinMe
program utilize data notebooks used to monitor progress & goals used with accountability partners
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5. Terrific resource to help with suggestions - please check it out :-)
https://t.co/T2uwP3VVH4
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Yesss
@TechieTeachOtt
@DrBDrost
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @DrBDrost
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: "Rate your understanding" used to use
#s
, would use emojis if still in classroom 😃🙂😐😕😩
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I like to have different classes give feedback to each other--amazing what 6th graders could point out to 8th graders.
#ohedchat
In reply to @bethctech
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 I find self-assessment is better after peer &/or teacher feedback. I am a much better self-editor after I get a colleague's FB.
#ohedchat
RandallSampson
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5:
@flipgrid
@SoundCloud
Project Based Learning, The 6-Pack in
#WelcomeToTheGRIND
are digital and analog tools
#ohedchat
In reply to @melsa777, @flipgrid, @SoundCloud
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#ohedchat
- we're trending -- let's get to spot #1.
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Boom!
#ohedchat
In reply to @amberphillipsaa
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Happens frequently on Twitter :-)
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
ChadLensman
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: Goal setting and LT Tracking Sheets.
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
We can record grades or growth but we have to know if a S got it and what does got it look
@TechieTeachOtt
@DrBDrost
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @DrBDrost
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Here I am still busy discussing a3 and the rest of you all are on five! Whoops z
#ohedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Ensure clearly defined success criteria (student-friendly) as the basis for any peer and self-assessment.
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
acottos
Jul 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Set the tone at the start of the year that lays out your method! Make sure Ss know it's a process. Believe it so Ss believe it!
#ohedchat
In reply to @Johnston_Rams
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Ah yes...
@flipgrid
is something I want to try this year...excited!
#ohedchat
In reply to @RandallSampson, @flipgrid, @SoundCloud, @flipgrid
ChadLensman
Jul 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Love the ownership and leadership
@TheLeaderinMe
provides Ss!
#ohedchat
MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5. Ss in the
@TheLeaderinMe
program utilize data notebooks used to monitor progress & goals used with accountability partners
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#lesigh
don't I know but we have to meet Ts where they are just like Ss
@katricequitter
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In reply to @katricequitter
SharonKrumwiede
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4: Student goal setting & self-monitoring. The use of rubrics and for the Ss to utilize them prior to grading.
#Ohedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Show students the value of effective, clearly articulated feedback along with related success criteria.
#ohedchat
In reply to @Johnston_Rams
MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 Ss should also set SMART goals, stating where they are, where they want to go by when, how they want to get there.
#ohedchat
LMurray_
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: I put Ss on a board & let them show their thinking & defend answer. Ss tell me which is correct & why.
#ohedchat
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
An assessment is less what it is called and more how its used. Assessment should be deeply embedded in instruction and learning.
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @TechieTeachOtt, @TebnerEbner
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
With lots of patience and compassion
@katricequitter
#lesigh
again
#ohedchat
In reply to @katricequitter
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: You 1st have to establish a
#growthmindset
culture to get your Ss comfortable with sharing their strengths and weaknesses
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I need to do more of this next year...
#ohedchat
In reply to @SharonKrumwiede
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
***Q6 is coming up in one minute!
#ohedchat
RandallSampson
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Yeah it's like video chat on Big Brother or something 😂
#ohedchat
In reply to @abney_heather, @melsa777, @flipgrid, @SoundCloud
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4 Ss should be as (if not more) familiar with their assessment and what it means to their learning as Ts are.
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
True. Also respect when Ss ask for more time because they want to push a little further, make it a little better.
#ohedchat
In reply to @katricequitter
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Or else how do we know what the Ss need totally agree
@MrDataGuy
@TechieTeachOtt
@TebnerEbner
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy, @TechieTeachOtt, @TebnerEbner
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I heard they also have a singing grid that teachers can post to...
#loveit
#ohedchat
In reply to @RandallSampson, @abney_heather, @flipgrid, @SoundCloud
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Totally agree - and when guest come into their classroom they are SO excited they jump outta their seat to share progress.
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrConn32
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Or if they got it
@MrDataGuy
@TechieTeachOtt
@TebnerEbner
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy, @TechieTeachOtt, @TebnerEbner
EduGladiators
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
📲
#EduGladiators
returns SATURDAY w/
@ClassTechTips
leading the Tech Tips convo!
#3rdchat
#ARVRinEDU
#educoach
#OhEdChat
#scitap
#TXed
#PTchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q6: What assessment do you give that you wouldn't want to miss?
#ohedchat
LMurray_
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: Conference w Ss & compare data from software. Ask S how they are doing & what help they need.
#ohedchat
swmiller123
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5:
@dylanwiliam
says feedback is key, so post conference can involve Ss
#ohedchat
abney_heather
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
I always enjoy learning from all of you when my schedule allows me to join in!
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5 daily goal setting based on learning targets and daily goal evaluation has been transformative in my class
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: Mine was always letting students design the assessment
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raypeyton
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Add a test question for that, ask what they learned that wasn't on the test, and what they'd like to learn more about
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
RT Q5: What strategies will students use to get kids to self-assess?
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6:
#20Time
Talks: When my Ss share the outcomes & learning of their
#20Time
projects. Always see growth in so many ways!
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6. Would REALLY like to see the assessment of admin shifted from pointless surveys to actual feedback using
#ObserveME
#ohedchat
acottos
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: now that I'm starting year 3 at my school, I'm planning on changing things up now that I know what does and doesn't work!
#ohedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5: Students must clearly understand (co-constructed) success criteria and share exemplar student responses (as models).
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
RT Q5: What strategies will students use to get kids to self-assess?
#ohedchat
LMurray_
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: I use MAP and Skills Navigator & would miss it. Ss love to track progress on Skills & make goals.
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6 ELA 2 EOC. Nuff said.
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SharonKrumwiede
Jul 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: I am not currently teaching in a classroom since I consult, so looking forward to your responses!
#Ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
YES!
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt
abney_heather
Jul 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@RandallSampson
#ohedchat
christybrenn
Jul 5 @ 3:09 PM EDT
What a fun idea from this month's
@flipgrid
newsletter! Create a back to school grid with staff introductions
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Then, when we know, its time for action. Only through acting on these needs can we close gaps.
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @TechieTeachOtt, @TebnerEbner
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 I love using the student inquiry process. Ss generate Qs, and I choose the best ones to be included in the assessment.
#ohedchat
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
When I taught CBI the final project was a conglomerate of all the previous lessons. Students had to select a job and based on
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
RT Q6: What assessment would you give today that they wouldn't want to miss?
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Oh no! Totally misinterpreted the Q. Let's try this again: A6 I must keep interview analysis papers--window into their life.
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A little push back what if a S gets a C on a test retakes and aces doesn't that show growth
@TechieTeachOtt
@DrBDrost
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @DrBDrost
acottos
Jul 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6.2: I had Ss create their own sarcophagus for ancient Egypt! Had such a wide variety of creations! Ss loved creating!
#ohedchat
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q6: What assessment do you give that you wouldn't want to miss?
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
And no, formative doesn't necessarily mean retake, but it does form further learning. This can then be reassessed with retakes
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @ToutouleNtoya
tyarnold18
Jul 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
That they had to find a car, apartment, ECT that fit into their budget. It was amazing to see the eye opening that happened.
#ohedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Benchmark reading assessment as a diagnostic tool (informing instructional next steps).
#ohedchat
DrBDrost
Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q6: What assessment do you give that you wouldn't want to miss?
#ohedchat
mjjohnson1216
Jul 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6. Teacher or parent has sit down meeting w/ admin - when walking out they are guided to scan QR code & provide input/suggestions
#ohedchat
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Still the biggest place for professional growth on Wednesdays. BOOM!
#ohedchat
1stEdResources
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Hey
#ohedchat
Join us in August. We are talking assessment and learning.
https://t.co/Kz1HQaKFcm
Check us out!
RandallSampson
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Ts also savet their
@flipgrid
VIDS to Pinterest and submit for grad credit
https://t.co/SeoAL0YJUe
#OHedChat
In reply to @abney_heather, @flipgrid
MrStevenKerr
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Walk-a-bout assessments, where Ss had to figure out the answer in one station in the hall to move onto the next
#ohedchat
AlyseConsiglio
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: the end of the year evaluation I had the Ss complete on my performance.
#ohedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Thanks for allowing me to join you for this important chat tonight!
#ohedchat
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Sure. But wouldn't a C for the course (or an A or F) be meaningless? Individual grades could be valuable. Average grades aren't.
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @DrBDrost
MrConn32
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6. Project Based/Assessed Ss n math last year on probability by having them perform exprmnts Ss blown away there was not a "quiz"
#ohedchat
RewardingEdu
Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Hey,
#OHedchat
PLN! Here are my suggestions for improving the
#edchat
experience. I'd love to hear your ideas!
https://t.co/IH6qxARzQb
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Good point would the feedback be enough
@DrBDrost
@TechieTeachOtt
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost, @TechieTeachOtt
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: I work with Ts, so a needs assessment @ the beginning of the year that allows Ts to identify this own goals/focus for the year
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us, Chris!
#ohedchat
In reply to @ChrisQuinn64
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
#ohedchat
is the best place to be on Wednesday nights!
bobby__dodd
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Still the biggest place for professional growth on Wednesdays. BOOM!
#ohedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Jul 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Yes, but what is their number sense? Rote recitation tells us little about their understanding of number value.
#ohedchat
In reply to @DrBDrost
wickedhillary
Jul 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Ban common core
#ohedchat
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Love assessment chatter. Great educators here in Ohio. Thanks for the chat
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I would assume the grades are as meaningful as the T or school makes them
@TechieTeachOtt
@DrBDrost
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @DrBDrost
wickedhillary
Jul 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Teacher's unions have destroyed education for their own financial gain
#ohedchat
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us, Jim. You've shared great ideas to think about!
#ohedchat
In reply to @MrDataGuy
TechieTeachOtt
Jul 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
For who? Ss? Ts? Ps? Admins? I believe it's absolutely enough for S learning. Perhaps other ppl need 2 rethink their perspective.
#ohedchat
In reply to @ToutouleNtoya, @DrBDrost
MrDataGuy
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@TebnerEbner
Thanks for moderating the chat tonight. Tough to keep up for sure. Great job.
#ohedchat
melsa777
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you for a great chat
#ohedchat
drneilgupta
- Moderator
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Huge thanks to
@TebnerEbner
and
@DrBDrost
for co-moderating tonight's
#ohedchat
ToutouleNtoya
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
For all stakeholders if they agree the feedback is enough then it works
@TechieTeachOtt
@DrBDrost
#ohedchat
In reply to @TechieTeachOtt, @DrBDrost
SharonKrumwiede
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks for a great conversation. My first chat, I'll be back again!
#Ohedchat
katricequitter
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Wow! That went fast!
#ohedchat
bethctech
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Well,
#ohedchat
, another thought provoking chat tonight. More data driven instruction is in my horizon this fall!
TebnerEbner
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Super, Sharon! Great learning with you tonight.
#ohedchat
In reply to @SharonKrumwiede
acottos
Jul 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@bobby__dodd
#ohedchat
was my first twitter chat and still the best PD on a Wednesday!! Thank you all!! It has helped my teaching so much!
In reply to @drneilgupta, @bobby__dodd