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ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:01 PM EDT

@staffdb66 @hecharden @asober Speed, current etc should be OK but equations for waves and energy more challenging? #ASEchat

edubabbIe Oct 24 @ 3:01 PM EDT

Students who feel good about and work collaboratively. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:02 PM EDT

@staffdb66 @hecharden @asober So should these specified GCSE physics equations be 'memorised' or 'understood'÷ #ASEchat

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober They need to be understood but in the real world you look them up when needed #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@staffdb66 @hecharden concerned that mark schemes award marks for correct substitution of numbers without understanding. #ASEChat #plugnplay

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:06 PM EDT

@teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober Selecting the correct equation is more important than memorising a list then? #ASEchat

stevethedoc1 Oct 24 @ 3:06 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @staffdb66 @hecharden #asechat doesn't that make marking easier!!!!

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:07 PM EDT

Good evening all #asechat ters do we have a topic? @theASE

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:07 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @staffdb66 @hecharden Does there not need to be some understanding in order to know what to substitute? #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:07 PM EDT

@stevethedoc1 @staffdb66 @hecharden Absolutely! But that has not been one of my priorities, unless it is my own marking! #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:07 PM EDT

Is everyone on half term? #ASEchat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:08 PM EDT

@ViciaScience yes and the process of selecting and applying is in itself a tool for remembering the eqs, but with understanding #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 Sometimes I think numbers are selected almost at random from the question to plug into the equation #ASEchat

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober Defiantly, low ability or SEN students are disadvantaged by having to memorise lists #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@asober So which equations used in GCSE physics cause students most problems? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:10 PM EDT

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teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:10 PM EDT

@hecharden @ViciaScience @staffdb66 It's important in getting them thinking in terms of context as well #asechat

HGourlayUEA Oct 24 @ 3:10 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 No. PGCE teaching colleagues (and often trainees) don't get a half term. #ASEchat

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ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:11 PM EDT

@hecharden @teacherchalky1 @asober some equations fall into place if you understand the relationship between the variables #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:12 PM EDT

@teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober Not sure we should be putting all students through this type of assessment #ASEChat

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @asober Kinetic energy, transformer equation & selecting the correct electricity equation #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @CLEAPSS So what is the advice? No cracker jacks or bangers put down tubes? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:14 PM EDT

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margaretflem Oct 24 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober it was a poster I think #asechat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@ViciaScience I would say proportionality ones like Vp/Vs=Np/Ns and energy eqs like Ek... #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@teacherchalky1 @asober Thanks for the list. Helpful. Should we be teaching energy equations to 16 yr olds? #oddconcept #ASEchat

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober Unfortunately progress 8 baskets don't give many other choices #asechat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 @hecharden I never said it is good to get kids to learn a bunch of eqs by heart! #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:16 PM EDT

@margaretflem @teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober Useful poster for gender awareness in STEM posted earlier today #ASEchat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:16 PM EDT

@ViciaScience personally I think it is pointless. I don't know all the equations without looks big them up and don't feel the need #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@asober I agree about the energy equations. Have you a technique for teaching pupils to solve? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:17 PM EDT

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asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@ViciaScience ...because I know that I can have a reference to check and I can apply the equations as and when needed #asechat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@ViciaScience there is no physicist in the world who would be expected in their line of work to remember every eqs and constant #asechat

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:18 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @asober if the agenda is to get students to uni then yes, I'd argue that most students don't see why they need them #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:18 PM EDT

Hey @asober are you hosting #asechat tonight?

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:19 PM EDT

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NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:17 PM EDT

Homework for #asechat check out @schoolscience our sister website & choose some resources to share on the 7th November chat with guest host

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:20 PM EDT

IoP poster of 10 tips for gender neutral teaching in STEM #ASEChat https://t.co/Y6YvbrQZe7

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:20 PM EDT

@staffdb66 @asober @ViciaScience @hecharden There's a very long list I'm afraid, it's around a page an a half long #asechat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@ViciaScience practice in diff contexts and make links, e.g. What happens to momentum and Ek of a runner if she doubles her speed? #asechat

margaretflem Oct 24 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober this is the one and it's no1 on the list! https://t.co/BPW5KfDQUj #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@asober So you would like to see changes made to GCSE Physics criteria/content 2016? #ASEChat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 was supposed to, but forgot I was coming back from London, so bit difficult. Keeping an eye on #asechat though.

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:22 PM EDT

@teacherchalky1 @asober And for the 95% who do not do physics at Uni - same argument? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:22 PM EDT

Come and #asechat with us in real life at our @theASE Northern Conference https://t.co/TqmveMbbXB 19th Nov Sheffield #cheap

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:23 PM EDT

Agreed. We need students to be familiar with use of equations in different contexts from early age #ASEChat… https://t.co/xHQdvz6pJq

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@ViciaScience practice in diff contexts and make links, e.g. What happens to momentum and Ek of a runner if she doubles her speed? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:23 PM EDT

Ah! thanks that explains it #asechat https://t.co/ChIVCCgm0O

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 was supposed to, but forgot I was coming back from London, so bit difficult. Keeping an eye on #asechat though.

margaretflem Oct 24 @ 3:23 PM EDT

@ViciaScience great minds ...#asechat

asober - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:24 PM EDT

@ViciaScience I think forcing to learn eqs will limit the richness of questions that could be asked if stress were on application #asechat

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:24 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @asober The curriculum should be changed to one that better engages & excites them maybe? #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:24 PM EDT

#ASEChat retweet https://t.co/AdVAgfj1Se

HGourlayUEA Oct 24 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @staffdb66 @asober CASE project (Adey & Shayer) suggests not all ch can understand equations by age 16.

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:26 PM EDT

Apart from the physics equations, how’s the rest of the new GCSE science curriculum going? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@margaretflem @teacherchalky1 @staffdb66 @hecharden @asober As a non physics person I agree with number one #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@margaretflem and also referring to laws by numbers, and ideas by symbols! #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:28 PM EDT

@teacherchalky1 @asober Do you mean by solving real world problems rather than abstract ideas? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 Not sure why there is an emphasis on equations in physics but not other sciences #ASEChat

edubabbIe Oct 24 @ 3:31 PM EDT

Variance-accounted-for measures The most obvious roles documents play in shaping strategic initiatives. #asechat

margaretflem Oct 24 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 does anyone else think that the practicals cld be an open door to eng other experts e.g teaching gears with @sustrans #asechat

teacherchalky1 Oct 24 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @asober possibly, or looking at content that grabs their attention #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:32 PM EDT

Interesting question earlier about how to grade KS3 test results and use grades as 'predictors'. Any advice? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:32 PM EDT

and getting @STEMAmbassadors involved! #asechat https://t.co/63ttFl6MQs

margaretflem Oct 24 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 does anyone else think that the practicals cld be an open door to eng other experts e.g teaching gears with @sustrans #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:33 PM EDT

Is anyone grading KS3 outputs on a 1-9 scale? #ASEchat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:34 PM EDT

#asechat how's the chat tonight just logged on

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:35 PM EDT

@gregtheseal 'How many physics equations must you remember to qualify as a grade 9 student?' #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@gregtheseal do join in its a random topic… new GCSEs hows it going? equations memorise/ understand, predicting 1-9 from KS3 tests #ASEchat

HGourlayUEA Oct 24 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@ViciaScience Some started using A*~G as soon as levels were removed, so undoubtedly some will be using 9-1 in KS3. #ASEchat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 gas chromatography?? Never heard of it before! Now I am an expert. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @gregtheseal And practical work in new GCSEs - any issues? Doing more than proscribed list? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:37 PM EDT

Is it an engaging topic? extends separation techniques? #asechat https://t.co/QayIz8rlqd

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 gas chromatography?? Never heard of it before! Now I am an expert. #asechat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @NeedhamL56 nothing too big then. #asechat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @gregtheseal all of them! But I think that only makes you grade 5. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@hrogerson @NeedhamL56 Do you do gas chromatography practicals? #ASEchat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 really confusing for my grade 4/5 students. Really abstract as I struggled to find real images. #asechat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 personally I think 1-9 is not so different from *-g #asechat and there needs to be more recall not just equations

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @NeedhamL56 you can? #asechat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@TJohns85 @ViciaScience @NeedhamL56 that's what I did, then taught the facts, stationary phase etc. #asechat

HGourlayUEA Oct 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @NeedhamL56 @gregtheseal Recommend going beyond in order to tackle exam qs at end ~ different contexts #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@hrogerson @NeedhamL56 Not aware gas chromatography is done in school labs. so good reason to use #STEMAmbassadors #ASEchat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@ViciaScience since the government think 9= know lots 1= don't know much? It's possible. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT

@TJohns85 @hrogerson @NeedhamL56 Would like to do electrophoresis with students too #samebutdifferent #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Have you see how to calculate grades above 7? https://t.co/lG7cCmssCh #asechat https://t.co/JjXy8cdu1O

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 personally I think 1-9 is not so different from *-g #asechat and there needs to be more recall not just equations

DrDav Oct 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT

I know of at least one school that is using grades 9-1 from year 7. @ViciaScience #asechat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @TJohns85 @hrogerson @NeedhamL56 much more accessible but still not cheap #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@DrDav How are they doing it Carol? Descriptors, statistically, or finger in the air? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @TJohns85 @hrogerson @NeedhamL56 Quite expensive, to very expensive depending on time taken #ASEchat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT

A week behind schedule in physics in Y10 already. Hoping that slow and confident will pay off long term #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @ViciaScience @hrogerson Thin Layer chromatography really good, cld be a stepping stone to more abstract ideas? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT

@cheltscigrp Interesting. Based on what 'baseline'? #ASEchat

Newmanphysics Oct 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @asober missed #asechat open evening. I will be talking static electricity https://t.co/0rrkXi99HW https://t.co/eSoiJhWXES

DrDav Oct 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@ViciaScience Flightpaths, apparently. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @gregtheseal @hrogerson Agreed. Chromatography of chlorophyll becomes worthwhile when using TLC #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT

all welcome? #ASEChat https://t.co/75DXpWTN9w

Newmanphysics Oct 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @asober missed #asechat open evening. I will be talking static electricity https://t.co/0rrkXi99HW https://t.co/eSoiJhWXES

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 I had not seen it but it is still the same grade distribution and 9 is something exceptional #ASEchat and not predictable

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@DrDav @ViciaScience 🙄🤔#skeptical #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@DrDav I have so much to learn! #ASEchat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @NeedhamL56 @hrogerson how different is it to using filter paper? #asechat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:50 PM EDT

I think until I have seen and my students have done the Y10 exams the jury will remain well and truly out on the new GCSEs. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @TJohns85 @hrogerson @NeedhamL56 Have you used electrophoresis in classroom? What kit do you use? #NCBE ? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @ViciaScience @hrogerson amazing results, for very little extra effort #asechat TLC

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 I'm just keeping my finger in the wind and hope experience will pay off. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @NeedhamL56 @hrogerson Pricey, quick, sharp end points, colours visible, quick, effective and quick #ASEChat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@DrDav @ViciaScience we are on flight paths but into bands #asechat fingerless gloves are standard issue

Newmanphysics Oct 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@ViciaScience Yes all welcome no login required for the webinars and also I post in this open group https://t.co/ip9YQ6bso1 #asechat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @TJohns85 @hrogerson @NeedhamL56 that's the one lambada protocol but only at a level #asechat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @DrDav @ViciaScience pixl? #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:53 PM EDT

@hrogerson @NeedhamL56 Professional judgement is everything. Experience counts for so much when can look back at previous years. #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:54 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @DrDav and an electric fan to make a breeze? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:54 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @TJohns85 @hrogerson @NeedhamL56 Be difficult to organise for larger classes unless bought expensive 'machine' #ASEchat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:54 PM EDT

@hrogerson @DrDav @ViciaScience nope modified kerboodle and using fft transition matrix #asechat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @DrDav @ViciaScience what have FFT done? Numbers or letters? We haven't had YELLIS back yet. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @hrogerson @DrDav @ViciaScience interesting... is updated @FFTEdu transition matrix available now? #asechat #mustkeepup

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:57 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 I think management have to be aware and look fir different ways of tracking. #asechat

hrogerson Oct 24 @ 3:58 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @DrDav @ViciaScience i am hoping that 1-9 won't give too many shocks. #asechat

rbegum2013 Oct 24 @ 3:58 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 #ASEchat low attainment student struggling ... teacher also struggling , trying to decide what to leave out when ss target 3

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT

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NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 24 @ 3:22 PM EDT

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Newmanphysics Oct 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@TJohns85 My nephew at his primary school & said my uncle David does it off his head. Then showed the them all off his hand #asechat proud

ViciaScience Oct 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@mwnm @asober @AQA and I think there will be pressure to find good application jus - recall easier so may not ask for equations? #ASEchat

gregtheseal Oct 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@hrogerson @NeedhamL56 I think if anything grade boundaries will be a lot lower and like you said experience will count for a lot #asechat