#NGSSchat Archive
A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.
Thursday March 2, 2017
9:00 PM EST
participatechat
Mar 2 @ 9:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
#NGSSchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/HBHCxebSZD
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:01 PM EST
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
! We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#NGSSchat
in your tweets!
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:02 PM EST
Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from!
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:02 PM EST
Sign in to tweetdeck and add your
#NGSSchat
column!
In reply to @miss_schilling_, @NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:02 PM EST
We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number.
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:02 PM EST
Brian, Aurora IL Just finished
#ParentConferences
& ready to chat from my desk!
#ngsschat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:02 PM EST
Hi Trish and Fred (and everyone else that is on the way)! Wendi from Grand Rapids, MI. Sci consultant.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:02 PM EST
Welcome, Kevin! Glad to have you!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
Mr_F_Learning
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
Kevin Flanagan, STEM/Technology Coach, Pequannock NJ
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hey Brian!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
Welcome, Wendi!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @VogelWendi
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
Welcome Wendi!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @VogelWendi
LynnTeachIt
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
Suzy 3rd Grade, WI
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
No one show at conferences?
#ngsschat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
Kathy is here who just realized she totally forgot
#elngsschat
last week :-(
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hey Kathy!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Brianna joining from NJ! I teach MS science and am a part of
#NGSSPRP
Happy to be joining again! 😄
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Welcome, Suzy!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @LynnTeachIt
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Welcome Kevin!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Lauren from Los Angeles
#ngsschat
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hi all! It's been a while for me! Emily from MI. I teach 2nd 😊
#NGSSchat
HowardKiyuna
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Howard. 5th and 6th math and science teacher. Full inclusion campus. Palo Alto, CA.
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Great to see you Suzy!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @LynnTeachIt
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Most did..except the ones we wanted to see...of course! 7 hrs of excitement!
#ngsschat
In reply to @VogelWendi
MarianaGSerrato
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
#Ngsschat
Hi everyone.
@MarianaGSerrato
5-8 STEM teacher from San Jose, CA
In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
krademaker
Mar 2 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hi everyone, Kristin from Illinois here
#ngsschat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Long days!
#ngsschat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Welcome, Brianna!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Welcome Kathy!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hello from the Smallest State with the longest name! RI is in the house. Carolyn, MS T, Pres of
@RI_STA
and curator for
@NSTA
#ngsschat
In reply to @RI_STA, @NSTA
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hello, Lauren! Thanks for joining us!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @STEMGeniusHour
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hey Emily!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @emmytbots
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Welcome Brianna!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Welcome, Howard!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @HowardKiyuna
TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hello y'all! Tina from Alabama
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Welcome Mariana!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Thanks for joining
#NGSSchat
Lauren!
In reply to @STEMGeniusHour
LPugh3
Mar 2 @ 9:05 PM EST
Good evening all! LaToya from TN
#NGSSChat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hey Kristin!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @krademaker
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome Emily-- it's great to see you!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @emmytbots
Dora_AMNH
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
#NGSSchat
got out of stats class early tonight! Dora from NYC here. I run PL programs (& develop curriculum) for science teachers at AMNH.
tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hey all! TJ from CT here...
@notbrianreiser
is currently napping, do I need to I wake him up for this?!?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @notbrianreiser
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Tomorrow is Institute day! We have
@reiserbrianj
as our keynote speaker
#NGSSAllDayLong
!
#ngsschat
In reply to @VogelWendi, @reiserbrianj
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome Howard!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @HowardKiyuna
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Ha ha ha. Welcome, Carolyn!
#NGSSchat
#RIShoutOut
In reply to @mrshigginsri, @RI_STA, @NSTA
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hey Tina!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TinaCMcKenzie
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome Mariana!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome, LaToya!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @LPugh3
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome Kristin!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @krademaker
DavidJLockett
Mar 2 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hello Dave here. Mad
#STEM
teacher in FL.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:07 PM EST
Hey Dora!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Dora_AMNH
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:07 PM EST
Great to see you Carolyn!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @mrshigginsri, @RI_STA, @NSTA
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:07 PM EST
So, doing some
@NGSXproject
2.1 for a few districts. Love the new video. Has a little TJ splash in it.
#ngsschat
In reply to @tjscience, @NGSXproject
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:07 PM EST
Welcome Tina!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TinaCMcKenzie
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:07 PM EST
Hey David. Awesome .gif.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @DavidJLockett
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM EST
Holly from MI - just home from conferences & on time for
#NGSSchat
:)
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM EST
Thanks for joining us Dora!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Dora_AMNH
DavidJLockett
Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM EST
thank you!
#ngsschat
In reply to @FredEnde
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM EST
Welcome, Holly!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @HollyMcGoran
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM EST
Greetings
#ngsschat
Jackie from Central MD dropping in for a bit ! Looking forward to seeing some folks soon
#NSTA17
L.A.!
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM EST
Can he weigh in on
#NGSS
& state testing?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @tjscience, @notbrianreiser
miss_schilling_
Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM EST
Hi! Tori Schilling, Grad Student at UConn studying secondary biology and general science education!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:09 PM EST
Hey Jackie!
#ngsschat
In reply to @jaclyn_austin
quincygirls1
Mar 2 @ 9:09 PM EST
Shawn here from Quincy, Mi. 7th grade Science... for as long as I can keep my eyes open. :-)
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:09 PM EST
Welcome Dave!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @DavidJLockett
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:09 PM EST
Welcome, Tori! Glad to have you!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @miss_schilling_
DavidJLockett
Mar 2 @ 9:09 PM EST
thank you!
#ngsschat
In reply to @TdiShelton
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:09 PM EST
Glad to be here to share & learn!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:09 PM EST
Welcome Holly! I hope the conferences went well-- that is a long day!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @HollyMcGoran
AssignmentHelpN
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
#LessonUP
#NGSSchat
#paedchat
#Reg5Chat
#RLchat
#saskedchat
Tips for choosing Fashion Designing as a Career
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
I am looking forward to it too!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @jaclyn_austin
WV25443
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
Carolyn from WV, taking a break from grading to learn more about NGSS t
#ngsschat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
Copy that!
#ngsschat
In reply to @quincygirls1
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
Hey Shawn!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @quincygirls1
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
Welcome Tori!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @miss_schilling_
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
Q1. coming up. ..
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
Welcome Shawn!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @quincygirls1
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:10 PM EST
Hey Carolyn!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @WV25443
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:11 PM EST
Welcome Carolyn!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @WV25443
douglas_watkins
Mar 2 @ 9:11 PM EST
Douglas Watkins - Denver Public Schools...here to learn and share :)
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:11 PM EST
Welcome Douglas!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @douglas_watkins
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q1 What benefits does state-wide assessment provide for teaching/learning? What are the challenges?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:12 PM EST
Hey Doug!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @douglas_watkins
notbrianreiser
Mar 2 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1-8:
#NGSS
is too special to be assessed. Just ask Ss what they are figuring out and then give them all an A.
#testtothetest
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:12 PM EST
Join us on
#NGSSchat
happening now! Q1 here talking state testing!
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q1 What benefits does state-wide assessment provide for teaching/learning? What are the challenges?
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:12 PM EST
spent all day today preparing for Session 2 NGSS Performance Assessment next Thursday
#NGSSchat
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Observation, reflection and collaboration.
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
Or score them Proficient
#ngsschat
notbrianreiser
Mar 2 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1-8:
#NGSS
is too special to be assessed. Just ask Ss what they are figuring out and then give them all an A.
#testtothetest
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
What you reflecting on and/or reading about that was an aha for you?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
Always a great day to share & celebrate student successes w/parents & set goals at conferences!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TdiShelton
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
How so? Are these benefits? Challenges? Both?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @STEMGeniusHour
douglas_watkins
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: If written well, state-wide assessments provide opportunities for students to receive equitable access to good instruction
#ngsschat
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Challenges come from how 1dimensional tests are. Where are the SEPs and CCCs on standardized tests??
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 Statewide assessment can provide a snapshot of S learning, can be used to look at
#NGSS
science program
#NGSSchat
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1
#NGSSchat
statewide assessments are needed for accountability, but most don't assess 3Ds of new sci standards.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q1 What benefits does state-wide assessment provide for teaching/learning? What are the challenges?
#NGSSchat
LynnTeachIt
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 standardizing with some leveled expectations is + but that spits in face of 3D learning
#NGSSchat
miss_schilling_
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
Personally, I scored high on state assessments... learned the NGSS way... realized I did not understand a thing about science!
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
Agreed-- it is a long day, but nothing beats being able to report great things to our Ss #1 fans= parents.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @HollyMcGoran
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: State testing provides us 1 snapshot in student photo album of understanding- need more pics 2 showcase all the Ss understand
#ngsschat
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 IF the assessment is APPROPRIATE, state-wide assess can ID LEAs that have strong programs & give others a chance to learn.
#ngsschat
massignmenthelp
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
#LessonUP
#NGSSchat
#paedchat
#Reg5Chat
#RLchat
#saskedchat
Start a blog in college
https://t.co/SW64eeDA9h
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
Why are they needed for accountability? What purpose do they serve?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @amykfmurphy
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1 Bs: Snapshot of how your dist is doing compared to rest Cs: Hard to compare due to varying demographics & fundings
#ngsschat
Mr_F_Learning
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: offers a comparison between teaching models. Kits vs. more open inquiry. Might be limited to what can easily be graded
#ngsschat
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
I was thinking about equity in instruction also.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @douglas_watkins
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
Great point! What is a must-have to a "well-written"
#NGSS
assessment?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @douglas_watkins
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
Both. It's important to tweek as you observe yourself, master a lesson and share it with others.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
Best analogy from
@jaymctighe
today !
#ngsschat
In reply to @jaymctighe
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: State testing provides us 1 snapshot in student photo album of understanding- need more pics 2 showcase all the Ss understand
#ngsschat
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
Sorry I'm late.
#ngsschat
tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: State-wide assessments allow for a large, localized network of educators who can speak a common language about instruction
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1 Glad my Ss don't take state tests yet. Student-centered learning can veer in unique directions. Hard to assess state wide
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
Im spending a great deal of time reveling evidence statements to create learning targets, digging deep into NGSS Classroom Tasks
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:13 PM EST
What you reflecting on and/or reading about that was an aha for you?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1 3D state assessment could be written and used with other data sets to help us grow Ss understanding in science.
#idealism
#ngsschat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
Sets stage for collaboration opportunities!
#ngsschat
tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: State-wide assessments allow for a large, localized network of educators who can speak a common language about instruction
#NGSSchat
HowardKiyuna
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1: Pos: gives parents info. Over time it helps decisions. Tchrs see strengths/weakness. Neg: drives us to poor motives.
#ngsschat
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
We are thought partners-think alike
#ngsschat
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: State testing provides us 1 snapshot in student photo album of understanding- need more pics 2 showcase all the Ss understand
#ngsschat
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
I can tell you that writing 3D state assessments is a challenge!
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
How do we deal with benefit/challenge shares? How do we help emphasize benefit?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @STEMGeniusHour
douglas_watkins
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
#ngsschat
phenomenon-driven, building understanding, 3-dimensional. Takes a ton of work to get these written! Will be years!
In reply to @TdiShelton
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
Agreed! Ts have been working hard on teams in KY creating a 3D state assessment. Some great convos taking place.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
I see them as a way to show Ss growth. But one time assessment each year shouldn't be only measure.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1 Challenges are building an APPROPRIATE assessment. Is it 3D? Is it equitable?
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
Can we design standardized tests that are multi-dimensional?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly
TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1 Statewide testing provides a longitudinal report of a student's progress
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
Yes. Important to be able to have a consistent measure as a baseline. But can't be only!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @amykfmurphy
DavidJLockett
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1: Assessing students’ strengths and weaknesses in this way requires time, and can force trade-o s between a test’s efficacy.
#ngsschat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
Can an assessment be appropriate for an entire state? IL is do diverse w/rural vs. urban vs. suburban
#ngsschat
In reply to @mrshigginsri
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
I like to think we can...
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
Can we design standardized tests that are multi-dimensional?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
writing a 3D classroom assessment is hard enough. I cannot imagine writing a statewide one!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
Agreed--state assessments as "snapshot" & way to get data at a lg system level/ classroom embedded to get Ss data
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
Yes. The main goal is to ID LEAs that have strong programs to share and ID LEAs that need assistance!
#NGSSchat
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 IF the assessment is APPROPRIATE, state-wide assess can ID LEAs that have strong programs & give others a chance to learn.
#ngsschat
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
Trying to create a performance assessment task model that captures three dimensionality and transferable skills
#NGSSchat
LynnTeachIt
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
A1 state testing is collaborative by necessity but this is how Ss are learning. State testing gives me all the negative feels
#NGSSchat
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
I've been wondering the same thing
@FredEnde
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
Can we design standardized tests that are multi-dimensional?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM EST
.
@amykfmurphy
@douglas_watkins
How do state assessments allow this access? It doesn't seem guaranteed that one leads to the other
#ngsschat
In reply to @amykfmurphy, @douglas_watkins
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:19 PM EST
Is there a way to build accountability outside of a standardized state assessment?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @amykfmurphy
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:19 PM EST
That sounds awesome! I can't wait to hear more about the tasks being designed
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TdiShelton
Trish_Crain
Mar 2 @ 9:19 PM EST
Hey,
#NGSSchat
, what are your students' dreams for their future?
#KidsMatter
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:19 PM EST
How would we?
#ngsschat
In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
What are you leaning towards?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @larkscience
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
It would be interesting if assessments were focused on CCC or SEP - would see growth over time in Ss?
#NGSSchat
TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1 Statewide testing provides a longitudinal report of a student's progress
#NGSSchat
miss_schilling_
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
However, if the assessment is assessing 3D learning, state-wide assessments can have many benefits
#ngsschat
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
provide example via video and share success stories.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
Equitable is high in my sights. There's so much hinging on access to resources there and we end up putting ideal against real
#NGSSchat
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1 Challenges are building an APPROPRIATE assessment. Is it 3D? Is it equitable?
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
Love this emphasis on a "system of assessments" as opposed to 1 standardized state assessment test
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: State testing provides us 1 snapshot in student photo album of understanding- need more pics 2 showcase all the Ss understand
#ngsschat
DavidJLockett
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
A1: Creates strong foundations and support.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
Any you can share out?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @STEMGeniusHour
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
If we are all expected to get Ss Profic in a set of stndrds, yes. Test needs to be appropriate- no bias & truly aligned
#ngsschat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
quincygirls1
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
A1 It tells if I am on track with S's compared with the others. Not sure that it tells me what S's know, just what they memorized.
#ngsschat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
A1 What if the test could be rethought to track progression of SEPs, CCCs, and DCIs? Used as growth tool? w/ other data
#idealism
#ngsschat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
I tried in our state. It is maddening.
#ngsschat
In reply to @amykfmurphy, @ElkinsSciKy
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
We are trying create local assessment systems where
#NGSS
is assessed through curriculum embedded performance assessments
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:19 PM EST
Is there a way to build accountability outside of a standardized state assessment?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @amykfmurphy
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
Great point! I have heard many convos about a dashboard approach to report school/district data that is more wholistic
#NGSSchat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
Personally I don't think it can be done, it sacrifices the individual when standardized, professionally I have to hope I'm wrong
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:20 PM EST
What are you leaning towards?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @larkscience
krademaker
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
not a fan of state testing,but right now it is the only thing keeping science in some classrooms esp @ elem
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
A1a Challenge is writing a'ment that is true to 3Ds of
#NGSS
If that can be done it is a great measure of implementation practices
#ngsschat
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
sure! STEM for Pre-k
https://t.co/DoV4OHyymZ
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde
douglas_watkins
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
#ngsschat
relying on the "normal" practice of using the end to guide the path! Definitely not guaranteed!
In reply to @emmytbots, @amykfmurphy
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Go Kentucky! 😊
#NGSSchat
tkSciGuy
Mar 2 @ 9:19 PM EST
We're working hard on it here in Kentucky for our state summative assessments.
In reply to @larkscience, @FredEnde
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q2 What are the challenges of addressing 3D learning at the state level? Are these different from challenges at classroom level?
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Hmmm...we must have been typing at the same time...
#ngsschat
In reply to @jaclyn_austin
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Love the phrase "used with other data sets" - so important to access & consider multiple views into Ss understanding
#NGSSchat
In reply to @VogelWendi
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Welcome Sean! Q2
#NGSSchat
In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
@jaclyn_austin
I wish portfolios of student progress were a realistic way to assess in large scale!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TdiShelton, @jaclyn_austin
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
I think there is but I'm not sure what that should look like. Need one common measure across state plus local measures
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TdiShelton
quincygirls1
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Yes please!
#ngsschat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:21 PM EST
A1 What if the test could be rethought to track progression of SEPs, CCCs, and DCIs? Used as growth tool? w/ other data
#idealism
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:23 PM EST
Love the focus on the conversations that should accompany data to inform next steps for schools and teams
#NGSSchat
In reply to @tjscience
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: The biggest challenge is the format and time. In classrooms you can have a conversation.
#ngsschat
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:24 PM EST
Exactly. I have students who go to Mus of Sci w/fam in class w/ homeless kids. I need to give comm exp in class.
#ngsschat
In reply to @larkscience
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:24 PM EST
Did you apply to be an item writer? You need to!
#ngsschat
In reply to @HollyMcGoran
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2:Hmm...can a state assessment allow Ss 2 demonstrate understanding? Well designed classroom instruction can through perf. tasks
#ngsschat
STEMTeachTools
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
Are you introducing the
#NGSS
to educators? Try this PD module:
https://t.co/I0q0VzL4UN
#NGSSChat
#STEMEd
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
Love this-- state testing data as one piece of the puzzle on where we are on the path towards our
#NGSS
vision.
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1 3D state assessment could be written and used with other data sets to help us grow Ss understanding in science.
#idealism
#ngsschat
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2
#NGSSchat
Performance assessment should be a piece in my mind. Easier to do in classroom with small number of Ss.
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q2 What are the challenges of addressing 3D learning at the state level? Are these different from challenges at classroom level?
#NGSSchat
Dora_AMNH
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2
#NGSSchat
learning is social, situated. data from assessment at classroom level can be analyzed in context in which learning takes place.
LynnTeachIt
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2 to be something a whole state can get behind? Hurts my head. Anything standardized has to be very black and white.
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2 Creating process based 3D measures that capture essence of the standards It is diff than classroom due to # of Ss being eval'd
#ngsschat
krademaker
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2 in clsrm many 3D pieces can be developed w/ disc. Hard to recreate on a state test
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:25 PM EST
A good question? Thoughts
#NGSSchat
?
In reply to @HowardKiyuna, @larkscience
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
On my to do list for the weekend!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @VogelWendi
douglas_watkins
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
#ngsschat
at least at a large district level, diff is providing learning to teachers at appropriate frequency, with monitoring
In reply to @TdiShelton
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
Thank you!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
Its the little things in a'ments that show bias Fairness is a huge hurdle
#ngsschat
In reply to @mrshigginsri
tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: NGSS assessment needs to stay in the continuous improvement phase. Thinking we have a "catch-all" will hinder our progress
#NGSSchat
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: Challenges on both state and ass levels- 3D learning is more dofficult to quantify then traditional content learning!
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: true 3D assessment takes time and humans to score. Hard to do this state-wide.
#ngsschat
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
Yes! When assessments are all based on content, I fear they become like Trivial Pursuit!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @jaclyn_austin
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
Q2 is up!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q2 What are the challenges of addressing 3D learning at the state level? Are these different from challenges at classroom level?
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
Thx for being a
#thoughtpartner
!
#ngsschat
In reply to @VogelWendi
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:27 PM EST
I think performance assessments as well as ongoing formative assessment are l part of the system
#NGSSchat
joy_everyday
Mar 2 @ 9:27 PM EST
OK has some 3D examples.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:27 PM EST
What are some of the best take-away moments for you though?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:27 PM EST
Are there any ways we could?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @nlrhoades
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:27 PM EST
Does anything make it easier?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:28 PM EST
A2
#NGSSchat
Agree!
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
Yes! When assessments are all based on content, I fear they become like Trivial Pursuit!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @jaclyn_austin
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:28 PM EST
A2 Challenges: large scale, equity, bias, 3D, formatting, phenomenon based (stimulus), bundling, transferable pieces, stats, etc.
#ngsschat
quincygirls1
Mar 2 @ 9:28 PM EST
A2: What do they look like? How to write them? How do we let T's and S's know what they look like? How do we measure proficiency?
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q2 What are the challenges of addressing 3D learning at the state level? Are these different from challenges at classroom level?
#NGSSchat
notbrianreiser
Mar 2 @ 9:28 PM EST
A2: All
#NGSS
assessments need to be 3 dimensional - completed in pencil, pen, and crayon.
#ngsschat
LiamPet04095787
Mar 2 @ 9:28 PM EST
#LessonUP
#NGSSchat
#paedchat
#Reg5Chat
#RLchat
#saskedchat
Start a blog in college MORE >>
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LiamPet04095787
Mar 2 @ 9:28 PM EST
Why are they needed for accountability? What purpose do they serve?
#NGSSchat
MORE >>
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LiamPet04095787
Mar 2 @ 9:28 PM EST
I was thinking about equity in instruction also.
#NGSSchat
MORE >>
https://t.co/1hOhjONSg2
TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2 Ss need multiple, varied assessment opps to show mastery of PEs
#NGSSchat
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2 the cost of building 3D assessments>MC assessments. Money is the biggest hurdle.
#ngsschat
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
Well designed rubrics along with pre-assessment tasks to measure growth help!
#NGSSChat
In reply to @FredEnde
nlrhoades
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
I think TEIs have potential, but I've seen Ss struggle w/them on state test due to lack of exposure and use of tech.
#ngsschat
In reply to @FredEnde
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
I did the first round in MI. It is. My good friend called me crying on the way home out of frustration when she did it.
#ngsschat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
MsKarrsGators
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
Holly from Yuma, how late am I?! :)
#ngsschat
DavidJLockett
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2: Of course equity and stats. They need to be readily available.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:30 PM EST
Never too late to talk science!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsKarrsGators
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:30 PM EST
Need good phenomenon, takes 3X longer to write than you think, appendices are crucial, good examples help
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:27 PM EST
What are some of the best take-away moments for you though?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:30 PM EST
Ready for Q3? Here it comes!
#NGSSchat
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:30 PM EST
A2: have students design a model that excites them.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:30 PM EST
That is a great point &, agreed, unfortunate, pt hearing similar convos where assessment looming=emphasis on ele sci
#NGSSchat
In reply to @krademaker
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:30 PM EST
Umm...you need to apply to be an item writer too for MI. It is open now!
#ngsschat
In reply to @quincygirls1
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q3 It is recommended that Ss have multiple + varied assessments to show competence on PEs. What could these assessments look like?
#NGSSchat
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
A2: big shift in teaching & learning science requires a big shift in assessment; doesn't fit constraints of traditional testing
#NGSSchat
mrshigginsri
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Exactly! I didnt think of farming since it's not a big part of RI = my bias! Shows we need convos to truly elim bias
#ngsschat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
quincygirls1
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Was going to work on it when
#ngsschat
popped up. LOL I am planning on it.
In reply to @VogelWendi
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Im thinking a single point rubric wil work for
#NGSS
https://t.co/tro9R8ss2U
.
#NGSSchat
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:29 PM EST
Well designed rubrics along with pre-assessment tasks to measure growth help!
#NGSSChat
In reply to @FredEnde
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Did you/how did you pass the Ss progress on to the next grade level?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly, @jaclyn_austin
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:32 PM EST
@FredEnde
YES! My go to for desiging NGSS aligned rubrics. I create a category for each dimension!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady, @cultofpedagogy, @FredEnde
eumesmovittu
Mar 2 @ 9:32 PM EST
#NGSSchat
Ryan Ellis
#60DaysIn
#issagaygirl
#ChristianEducators
https://t.co/U4GPtx0R5i
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:32 PM EST
We are working the single-point rubrics this year and there's a lot to like
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady, @cultofpedagogy
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:33 PM EST
Brilliant!
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: NGSS assessment needs to stay in the continuous improvement phase. Thinking we have a "catch-all" will hinder our progress
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:33 PM EST
A2 The farther you get away from the classroom, the less authentic and useful any assessment is.
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3 Performance tasks that focus on various parts of PEs would have to be the main path I dont see how MC would work?
#ngsschat
DavidJLockett
Mar 2 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: Possibly authentic, comprehensive, or a performance based assessment?
#NGSSchat
GoobyCooper
Mar 2 @ 9:33 PM EST
GOOBY SEMEN OYSTER
#NGSSchat
LynnTeachIt
Mar 2 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3 I've used Google Forms, kids taking pics and labeling and sharing, class debates, mind maps, blog posts, etc
#NGSSchat
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3 They must be in portfolio form, with Ss able to view prior work. Make it reflective and evidence of growth please!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q3 It is recommended that Ss have multiple + varied assessments to show competence on PEs. What could these assessments look like?
#NGSSchat
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
Haven't done it yet- but Google Classroom would help with this! Scan and upload tasks done by hand
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TdiShelton, @jaclyn_austin
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
Welcome Holly!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsKarrsGators
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
#Reality
You can never remove all bias from a state-wide assessment..NEVER!
#ngsschat
In reply to @mrshigginsri
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3
#NGSSchat
I've been working w/Ts on CER/J Framework w/
#ADI
lessons. Cycle ends w/peer-reviewed paper.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q3 It is recommended that Ss have multiple + varied assessments to show competence on PEs. What could these assessments look like?
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3 multiple iterations of a model over the course of a PE. What have you changed & why?
#ngsschat
joy_everyday
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3. Would love a collaborat.resource that consists of a suite of assessments by topic bundle. Perf tasks, clusters, prompts, etc
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
Portfolio-based measures are useful to all. Why don't they get more use?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @larkscience
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:34 PM EST
Question 3 is up on
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q3 It is recommended that Ss have multiple + varied assessments to show competence on PEs. What could these assessments look like?
#NGSSchat
Mariagabierla12
Mar 2 @ 9:35 PM EST
#NGSSchat
#DrSeussASong
#LAHair
#TopChef
#TNTBulls
#masterchefjunior
https://t.co/WITGwRXXQs
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:36 PM EST
I think we r building some of that with TJ, aren't we? I agree. Did u sign up 2 write items? You need to as well!
#ngsschat
In reply to @joy_everyday
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:36 PM EST
If different levels using similar SEP or CCC rubrics to evaluate this could assist conversation as well
#ngsschat
In reply to @TdiShelton, @MsB_Reilly
Mr_Wolverton
Mar 2 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3 Some Ss are ready to complete the PE on their first try and others their 4th/5th Differentiate assessments keep every1 n-gaged
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:36 PM EST
Guess what's trending? :)
#NGSSchat
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
the logistics of sharing with new grade levels, new districts, the state, etc. And the fear of bias!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde, @larkscience
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
Love this! multiple ways to see student thinking & growth/ Ss product and Ss reflection
#NGSSchat
In reply to @nlrhoades
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3: Everything you can imagine, and some stuff you can't.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
It's a good question. What would a statewide portfolio measure look like? NY was considering. . .
#NGSSchat
In reply to @BKd204Sci, @larkscience
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
I think because they walk a fine line with subjective grading, but key is Ss agency and management of own work
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
What steps can we take to address?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly, @larkscience
TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3 Great info on Assessment of NGSS
https://t.co/9AnRSTrpQ4
#NGSSchat
quincygirls1
Mar 2 @ 9:38 PM EST
A3 Multiple/varied is what we do locally but interesting concept at a state level. I believe MI is thinking in that direction.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q3 It is recommended that Ss have multiple + varied assessments to show competence on PEs. What could these assessments look like?
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:38 PM EST
https://t.co/nUlltdJNdm
.
#NGSSchat
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:38 PM EST
These are all awesome questions, and beg the question of standardized tests to begin with, right? Who do they really help?
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
What if Ss have not used portfolios? Would that be a fair test?
In reply to @larkscience
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:39 PM EST
They help give us ulcers & pull us away from what is really important..
#StudentGrowth
#ngsschat
In reply to @larkscience
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:39 PM EST
I wish VT would consider bu concern about expense, time spent on testing, validity & reliability
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:37 PM EST
It's a good question. What would a statewide portfolio measure look like? NY was considering. . .
#NGSSchat
In reply to @BKd204Sci, @larkscience
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:40 PM EST
Right. How could we remove the worry over subjectivity to focus on benefit for student growth?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @larkscience
larkscience
Mar 2 @ 9:40 PM EST
Pretty much.
#Truth
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:39 PM EST
They help give us ulcers & pull us away from what is really important..
#StudentGrowth
#ngsschat
In reply to @larkscience
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:40 PM EST
Yes. Been on NY radar for years. Tough but important to consider how it could be standardized. . .
#NGSSchat
In reply to @quincygirls1
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:40 PM EST
Might
#NGSS
assessments be part of a personalized learning plan??
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:41 PM EST
What if use occurred from early on?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @BKd204Sci, @larkscience
krademaker
Mar 2 @ 9:41 PM EST
A3 this will be a challenge when you get to ms & hs w/ grdebds since testing is only required @ 8 and 1x in hs
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Mar 2 @ 9:41 PM EST
The evidence statements seem to eliminate some of the "gray" people worry about.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde, @larkscience
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:41 PM EST
Yes. Big concerns from NY on V & R as well as cost. Less worried about testing time for portfolios.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
jaclyn_austin
Mar 2 @ 9:41 PM EST
A3: Some measures-performance tasks & argument from evidence -There are some wonderful PT examples here
https://t.co/lQ8e84frSv
#ngsschat
tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
#using
all her talkmoves...
#wellplayed
@FredEnde
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Dora_AMNH, @FredEnde
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
Would have to be an early state wide similar format so data would have integrity Could a state of Ds agree?
#ngsschat
In reply to @FredEnde, @larkscience
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
Was talk a few years back about a portfolio option for state. Then w/ESSA additional talk about assessment variance.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Dora_AMNH
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4 What is the role of classroom-embedded assessments in an assessment system? (w/ instruction/actionable feedback on Ss learn)
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:43 PM EST
But, don't think NY will go there currently. Too much current assessment investment.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Dora_AMNH
TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:43 PM EST
Standardized Tests are so political...
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:43 PM EST
@tjheckyeah
TJ Smolek, you are being talked about a lot 2night! It's NGSS assessment night on
#ngsschat
In reply to @tjscience, @joy_everyday, @tjheckyeah
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:43 PM EST
blind assessment of portfolios, and a strong rubric could help quell concerns of bias, but, logistics...?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @FredEnde, @larkscience
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: There is a new cycle of learning that occurs when you observe and reflect on your own style/teaching.
#NGSSchat
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: classroom embedded is most important part--since the teacher is the only person who can really make a difference.
#ngsschat
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: Common assessments developed by teachers ensure equity for students at a district level!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4 What is the role of classroom-embedded assessments in an assessment system? (w/ instruction/actionable feedback on Ss learn)
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4 That data is still more important to Ts & Dists I look at them for my Ss growth, which is my primary directive
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:45 PM EST
Let's re-imagine our assessment system....
#NGSSchat
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: classroom embedded is most important part--since the teacher is the only person who can really make a difference.
#ngsschat
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4
#NGSSchat
since 3D learning is new to Ss, must provide them w/formative assessment & effective feedback as part of scaffolding process.
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4 What is the role of classroom-embedded assessments in an assessment system? (w/ instruction/actionable feedback on Ss learn)
#NGSSchat
EduGladiators
Mar 2 @ 9:46 PM EST
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#EduGladiators
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#sstlap
#meded
#NGSSchat
#semoEDchat
#OKElem
#gcisdchat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q4 Primary way of assessment in 3D learning. FA and SA. So important 140 characters doesn't cut it.
#ngsschat
TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4 Formative Assessments guide instruction and allows for acceleration or intervention
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:46 PM EST
Right. In states with RESAs, blind portfolio assessment could be coordinated and done regionally.
#ngsschat
In reply to @MsB_Reilly, @larkscience
joy_everyday
Mar 2 @ 9:46 PM EST
Classroom embedded assessment allows for students to PROCESS experiences. This is when learning really happens
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krademaker
Mar 2 @ 9:46 PM EST
use embedded asmt daily both form & sum has helped keep track of where ALL my Ss r on the continuum. It is a must
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ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:46 PM EST
Are the tests political, or what is done with the results?
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TinaCMcKenzie
Mar 2 @ 9:43 PM EST
Standardized Tests are so political...
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VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:48 PM EST
A4 Rethink common assessment: rather have a common tool to collect similar data so can grow Ss and Ts 3D abilities.
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:48 PM EST
Yes. Great point. I believe the tests are the furthest from the real culprits. :)
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In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:48 PM EST
Strong support for formative assessment/ classroom-embedded assessment as a part of
#NGSS
assessment system form
#NGSSchat
tweets tonight!
HowardKiyuna
Mar 2 @ 9:49 PM EST
Thinking backwards: Has anyone one thought to leverage data from a site with large user base.
@CK12Foundation
@khanacademy
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In reply to @CK12Foundation, @khanacademy
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:49 PM EST
A4Actionable feedback during learning is the only useful assessment FOR Ss. Statewide=too much time delay to affect learning cycle
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tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:49 PM EST
#NGSS
Assessment...
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MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:49 PM EST
A4: Ss should constantly use assessment feedback to grow. How does that translate to scores on a state assessment?
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HowardKiyuna
Mar 2 @ 9:49 PM EST
It seems to me that a small group of ppl just need to do it! Hint hint.
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STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:50 PM EST
#ngsschat
Yes
@DiscoveryEd
In reply to @HowardKiyuna, @CK12Foundation, @khanacademy, @DiscoveryEd
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:50 PM EST
How much training/ prof learning have you received on providing actionable
#NGSS
feedback?
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BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:50 PM EST
Meme of the night!
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tjscience
Mar 2 @ 9:49 PM EST
#NGSS
Assessment...
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KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:50 PM EST
Would love feedback
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KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:38 PM EST
https://t.co/nUlltdJNdm
.
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amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:50 PM EST
too soon?
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In reply to @tjscience
krademaker
Mar 2 @ 9:50 PM EST
Embedding also allows for immediate feedback from teacher and other Ss when appropriate
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BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
The immediate piece is huge The quick turnaround helps Ss and Ts
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In reply to @krademaker
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
Here comes Q5.
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emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
You read my mind!
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In reply to @MsB_Reilly
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
Q5 What are some possible formats for state assessment questions? What are the pros/cons of each?
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richbacolor
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
A4: Highly recommend
@furtak
book Feedback Loop for examples of this...
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In reply to @furtak
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4 What is the role of classroom-embedded assessments in an assessment system? (w/ instruction/actionable feedback on Ss learn)
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KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
I am doing lots of reading Guskey and more
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:50 PM EST
How much training/ prof learning have you received on providing actionable
#NGSS
feedback?
#NGSSchat
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
A4: making Ss thinking visible thru form assessment is critical; allows Ts to guide Ss to true, deep engagement w/SEPs & CCCs
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joy_everyday
Mar 2 @ 9:52 PM EST
A4: what about using the same prompts/ probes by topic bundle at multiple grade bands? FA and curriculum align, and learn prog.!
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VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:52 PM EST
I read The Feedback Loop. It is great!
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In reply to @TdiShelton
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:52 PM EST
not enough! That and questioning techniques are in need!
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In reply to @TdiShelton
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:52 PM EST
Is it appropriate for K-5?
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richbacolor
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
A4: Highly recommend
@furtak
book Feedback Loop for examples of this...
#ngsschat
In reply to @furtak
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4 What is the role of classroom-embedded assessments in an assessment system? (w/ instruction/actionable feedback on Ss learn)
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:52 PM EST
One of my faves? Thanks for the Feedback. A
#MustRead
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VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:52 PM EST
I read The Feedback Loop. It is great!
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In reply to @TdiShelton
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:53 PM EST
I just said that. No copying.
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In reply to @richbacolor, @furtak
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5: When students need to upload videos they created about the process. Discovery/research/presenting/writing/editing
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:53 PM EST
Yep. That works. :)
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In reply to @LynnTeachIt
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5 They would have to be rubric based performance tasks that include the sci process to stay true to
#ngss
#ngsschat
douglas_watkins
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
#ngsschat
I've created something similar...progression of proficiency really helps teachers
https://t.co/ZGECgLxToi
In reply to @KRScienceLady
amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5
#NGSSchat
I like the idea of free response type questions similar to AP. Really see what Ss understand but grading process long!
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
Q5 What are some possible formats for state assessment questions? What are the pros/cons of each?
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
Yes. Transferable and cross-curricular applications.
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
nlrhoades
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5 Some PEs are easier than others. Argue/explain > modeling. TEIs can work but are $$$.
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quincygirls1
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
A site S's across the US could go to for 3D assessments and T's and S's could see how they were doing without high stakes.
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ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5: Depends greatly if you are limited to paper/pencil or if you have virtual or other options available.
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q6. In the age of NGSS, what should the perfect science state assessment look/sound/feel like?
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:55 PM EST
Yes. I do believe much will have to involve either free response or direct performance. Tough to form MCs with PEs . .
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In reply to @amykfmurphy
BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5 w/MS having a varied path thru
#NGSS
it would have to be generic process ?'s All Ds don't do things the same way
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nlrhoades
Mar 2 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6 a cross section of Ss doing science and showing how they think/act like scientists.
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VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:56 PM EST
Thanks all. Checking out a bit early. Need to sleep. Thanks for the assessment chat!
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:56 PM EST
Rest up! Thanks for being here!
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In reply to @VogelWendi
STEMGeniusHour
Mar 2 @ 9:57 PM EST
and engineers and designers and teachers
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In reply to @nlrhoades
MsB_Reilly
Mar 2 @ 9:57 PM EST
A5: Present students with data, then... develop a model, critique/improve a model, make/choose a claim, argue! identify patterns
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:51 PM EST
Q5 What are some possible formats for state assessment questions? What are the pros/cons of each?
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
Mar 2 @ 9:57 PM EST
Alright everyone, this head cold is taking its toll. I'll have to duck out a few minutes early. Great to chat with everyone again!
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BKd204Sci
Mar 2 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6 Since most Ds do
#CER
having some sort of general modeling & response may be a way to get data that is useful
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:57 PM EST
Thanks for joining us Wendi!
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In reply to @VogelWendi
KRScienceLady
Mar 2 @ 9:57 PM EST
thank you
#ngsschat
VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
Yes. Transferable and cross-curricular applications.
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:57 PM EST
Thanks for joining us Emily!
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In reply to @emmytbots
FredEnde
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:58 PM EST
Great having you join us!
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In reply to @emmytbots
krademaker
Mar 2 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6 hard to imagine in a local control state that only requires 2 yrs of sci at hs level
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VogelWendi
Mar 2 @ 9:58 PM EST
Forgot
@NGSS_tweeps
plug! Don't forget to message me or
@BMSscienceteach
if would like a week. April & May have dates available.
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In reply to @NGSS_tweeps, @BMSscienceteach
ElkinsSciKy
Mar 2 @ 9:58 PM EST
I will leave perfection to others. The perfect assessment involves some sort of science fiction brain helmet...
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q6. In the age of NGSS, what should the perfect science state assessment look/sound/feel like?
#NGSSchat
douglas_watkins
Mar 2 @ 9:58 PM EST
#ngsschat
A6: ideally, it would be at least a week long and include investigative design and delivery to answer a question
In reply to @TdiShelton
LynnTeachIt
Mar 2 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6: problem based. Like Survivor meets The Apprentice. Stephen Hawking is the judge and the prize is gainful employment
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amykfmurphy
Mar 2 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6
#NGSSchat
Ss given essential ?s, design/conduct experiment, complete CER/J to answer essential ?s
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Mar 2 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q6. In the age of NGSS, what should the perfect science state assessment look/sound/feel like?
#NGSSchat
HollyMcGoran
Mar 2 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6: assessments should feel/look/sound like Ss acting, thinking & communicating like true scientists & engineers
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Dora_AMNH
Mar 2 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6
#NGSSchat
if I'm taking a science assessment, it should feel like I'm DOING science (not JUST answering questions ABOUT science)