#NGSSchat Archive

A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.

Thursday November 15, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #NGSSchat We are so excited you are joining the @Achieve Science PRP team Our hosts tonight are @krademaker @vawolb @revel56 @BethPesnell @kmgill135 @CariWilliamz
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Please start by introducing yourselves with your name, what you do, and where you’re from! #NGSSchat
  • KRScienceLady Nov 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
    #NGSSchat The best part of #whatstheEvidence was making the connections to our current reality #ngss
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Vanessa here from @AchieveInc in DC and thrilled to join the #NGSSchat tonight! I get to spend my days supporting the awesome #SciencePRP and helping states and districts implement the #NGSS. ⚗️🧪🧫🧬🔭🔬
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
    ooooh I need this pic for energy unit with Enviro class! @sunyesf #ngsschat @NGSSphenomena
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi from National Harbor #ngsschat
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi there! My name is Cari Williams and I am TOSA from the Tustin Unified School District in So California #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Kathy! Welcome to #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    #ngsschat Diana from NYC public school. 9th Living Environment, 12th Enviro @sunyesf in the HS course
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Please remember to include #NGSSchat in your tweets! We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number. Here comes question 1! 👏
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    HI Kristin from Illinois here and Super Excited to be tweeting from National Harbor! #ngsschat
  • hhereau Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Holly Hereau - joining in from back home in Detroit. #SciencePRP meeting was so intense I couldn't find my car when I got home LOL #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi Vanessa! Thanks so much for joining us! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @vawolb, @AchieveInc
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Diana! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @sunyesf, @NGSSphenomena
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    #NGSSchat I'm Kiran from New Visions in New York City, director of curriculum & instruction
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi all, Jeanne from @wustlisp STL - K-8 #mySci curriculum coordinator, finally home from D.C. after a great #sciencePRP meeting! #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Kathy! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • quincygirls1 Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Shawn Knaack, I change the world one middle schooler at a time, Quincy, Mi. #NGSSchat
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Holly #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Cari! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @CariWilliamz
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Holly, glad you made it home safe. It was great to see you! #ngsschat
    • hhereau Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Holly Hereau - joining in from back home in Detroit. #SciencePRP meeting was so intense I couldn't find my car when I got home LOL #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Kristin! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • KRScienceLady Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Kathy saying hello from snowy Milford MA #NGSSchat
  • KimberleyAstle Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Kimberley Astle, PRP member and K-12 Science Specialist. So excited to be here with the NGSSchat hosts tonight! #NGSSCHAT @EpsCandI
  • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Wendi Vogel, Grand Rapids area, MI, Science Consultant. It's getting pretty white over here; big snowflakes! Took 45mins to get home from normally 20min drive. #NGSSchat
  • wandabryant Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Wanda Bryant, 7th grade teacher, Detroit Public Schools Community District #ngsschat
  • meganrelmore Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Meg 7th grade science from Illinois #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    I cannot believe you are already home! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @hhereau
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Shawn #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Kiran! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kirandpurohit
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Great to see you Jeanne! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JMNorrisISP, @wustlisp
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Love that Shawn! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @quincygirls1
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi Megan so glad you could make it tonight! #ngsschat
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    It was snowing here in National Harbor, too. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Kimberley! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @KimberleyAstle, @EpsCandI
  • Terry711 Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hi from snowy CT - Terry @Terry711 PK-5 science coach! #ngsschat
  • jessesemeyn Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hi! Jesse from Illinois. Today I watched a doc on the plane, dragged the baby away from the dog bowl 15 times and pre-ordered a turkey. I’m a instructional coach in my 9ish to 5ish. #ngsschat
  • wandabryant Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    It's been a gray day here in DC too! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @VogelWendi
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Wanda! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @wandabryant
  • tjscience Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    TJ from Boston University - working with elementary science pre-service teachers in Boston Public Schools! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    SO great to see you Megan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @meganrelmore
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hi Jesse. Glad you made it home OK #NGSSchat
    In reply to @jessesemeyn
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi Wanda, glad you can join us. The pictures coming from your classroom really show NGSS in action. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Welcome Terry! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Terry711
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Welcome Jesse! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @jessesemeyn
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #ngsschat Chris Geerer from Michigan. I'm finding my joy teaching NGSS-aligned @MTU_MiSTAR units in my middle school classrooms.
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us TJ! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tjscience
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Welcome Chris! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @geererc, @MTU_MiSTAR
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Welcome Chris! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @geererc, @MTU_MiSTAR
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi Chris, which units have you done? #ngsschat
    • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
      #ngsschat Chris Geerer from Michigan. I'm finding my joy teaching NGSS-aligned @MTU_MiSTAR units in my middle school classrooms.
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: Maybe it's not the biggest problem, but something came up today about student-centered instruction: how do you allow student questions to authentically drive instruction when your #NGSS unit is pre-planned? #NGSSchat
  • ksscienceguy Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    looking forward to hanging out with #NGSSchat --Matt Krehbiel, Science Director, Achieve
  • MisterSci Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Hi! Dan from Lawrence, MA here! #NGSSchat
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1/#NGSSchat Time.
    In reply to @krademaker
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Q1 here on #NGSSchat happening now-- please join us!
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Hi Dan. Welcome! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci
  • sbottasullivan Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Hi Suzanne Sullivan, 5-8 Science Instructional Coach in CT #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome Matt! Thanks for joining us! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @ksscienceguy
  • MelissaW012017 Nov 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Melissa from Syracuse NY #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome Dan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Ted Willard, NSTA standards geek, showing up to NGSS chat late because I’m setting up for our 3D workshop at the national harbor NSTA conference #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome Suzanna! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sbottasullivan
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I agree - this is huge. We have been addressing this a LOT with teachers this year and last year. I think we need to consider "plans" as travel guides not maps. There are a lot of shifts embedded in doing that..... #NGSSchat
    In reply to @vawolb
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Sometimes it seems that we are adding some theater to our science classrooms. If we predict the questions students might ask, we can pre-plan and act like their questions just gave us a great idea for a lesson! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @vawolb
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome Ted-- where are you? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 #NGSSchat Also, many teachers I work with are not convinced that NGSS is better than what they do now. Hard to make the case with teachers that NGSS preps kids for lecture hall science at selective universities.
    In reply to @krademaker
  • meganrelmore Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: We needed a methodology or a way to deliver that to the kids. The sage on the stage with labs mixed in no longer fits. #NGSSchat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: The biggest challenge is time- time to fully implement the vision while meeting necessary state standards, and time to learn more about how to implement quality #ngss instruction. #ngsschat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 Once initial training #NGSS occurs, resources are needed. They are coming out and take while to write (which I understand, but districts are impatient due to assessment). Once in hands of Ts, need even more support w/ the how. Heavy lift. #NGSSchat
  • jessesemeyn Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: For myself, and others I work with l, it is difficult when you realize that the lessons and units you have spent so much time, thought and energy on, are not as great as you thought that are. #ngsschat
  • quincygirls1 Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: It started with too few resources. Now my problem is too many. :-) Sifting through the junk to find the good stuff. Also my personal challenge...Being quiet and letting students learn. #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Getting my laptop. Be downstairs in a minute #NGSSChat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • Terry711 Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 Getting the adequate time to dive into the work both in a PD session and during the practical application in the classroom. My teachers are loving our NGSS units but time for reflection is a challenge. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Love this in the new vision for education--" consider plans as travel guides not maps" #NGSSchat
    • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
      I agree - this is huge. We have been addressing this a LOT with teachers this year and last year. I think we need to consider "plans" as travel guides not maps. There are a lot of shifts embedded in doing that..... #NGSSchat
      In reply to @vawolb
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I think one of the hardest things is just figuring out how/where to start. There is so much & it can be overwhelming #ngsschat
  • MelissaW012017 Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: biggest challenges is having time to create the storylines. And Finding phenomena that works best for the objective. Also making sure we still have enough time to cover old curriculumthat will still be covered on state exam. #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I agree - time is precious. I think time balanced with admin support has been the most successful formula I have seen... #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JMNorrisISP
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    What kinds of support do you find teachers needing to implement NGSS? #ngsschat
    • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1 Once initial training #NGSS occurs, resources are needed. They are coming out and take while to write (which I understand, but districts are impatient due to assessment). Once in hands of Ts, need even more support w/ the how. Heavy lift. #NGSSchat
  • ksscienceguy Nov 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: Letting go of instruction liked by students, parents, teachers, and administrators who are good at school. Embracing instruction that challenges these same people to wrestle with underlying concepts. #NGSSchat
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: Sometimes the biggest challenge is not knowing how our lessons are going to turn out when we try something new for the first time #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Love the new role of the teacher described here-- orchestrating a lot behind the scenes -- leaving that space for student empowerment :) #NGSSchat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Sometimes it seems that we are adding some theater to our science classrooms. If we predict the questions students might ask, we can pre-plan and act like their questions just gave us a great idea for a lesson! #NGSSchat
      In reply to @vawolb
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
    And reflection is so important. #ngsschat
    • Terry711 Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1 Getting the adequate time to dive into the work both in a PD session and during the practical application in the classroom. My teachers are loving our NGSS units but time for reflection is a challenge. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
    What have you tried that has worked Megan? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @meganrelmore
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
    #NGSSchat A1: two things come to mind: teachers having the time to address the shifts that are necessary. Teachers who say “we are already doing that”
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Professional development, Ts that helped develop or trained in units easily accessible to others (like @hhereau who is amazing). PLCs if possible, TIME to unwrap resources, video and sharing new practice w/ other Ts, admin training, etc. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135, @hhereau
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    100% - with admin support, you can make huge gains. I’ve been working w/ a few 3-5 Ts on progressions and analyzing student journals w/ CCC prompts. Better than any one shot PD I’ve ever done- but we need the support for the time. #ngsschat
    In reply to @tjscience
  • MsVickScience Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Sorry I'm late, worked concessions tonight! #NGSSchat
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: The vision of the Framework exists within a larger education system. We need more champions for the vision that influence that larger system. Teaching & learning 3D science is good for the whole child, but not all Ss are being given the opportunity. #NGSSChat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • wandabryant Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 How can we help k-5 understand teaching NGSS will improve ELA? It appears math and ELA get more attention #NGSSchat
  • sbottasullivan Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 #ngsschat : once we’ve determined which PEs to put together - choosing the phenomenon and sketching out the storyline (esp when the content is new at that grade level)
    In reply to @krademaker
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Hi Nicole! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MsVickScience
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I love it! Your "theater" comment also made me think about the issue of over-relying on technology in science classrooms in the name of STEM, but sometimes letting actual science fall by the wayside. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @CariWilliamz
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    6.1, 6.2, 6.4, 6.7, 6.6, 7.1, 8.6...I have been working as a writer and pilot teacher with MTU for three years now. Lots of good stuff! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • ksscienceguy Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1: Solutions that "fix" individual classrooms are insufficient, but collaboration is challenging. #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    but I think we should not judge Ts who are struggling with the shift- how do we help them, not admonish them for not doing it "right". #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • MisterSci Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1: I wish I had more aligned test items, especially in assessing the practices. Sometimes I feel like I don't know what we're aiming toward. #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q2 more info :): This report from the @CarnegieCorp describes the need for high-quality science instructional materials as urgent and needed for translation of the #NGSSchat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
      Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Agree, needs to come in with a literacy lens. And we need to use an expanded definition of text and show how science is rich in literacy. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @wandabryant
  • revel56 Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Hi, Ryan from National Harbor #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    What do you say to the people who state "I already do that?" #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Sitting with my middle school daughter who says "doing scientific explanations helps my writing"! :) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @wandabryant
  • wandabryant Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Roots of reading: Seeds of science curriculum does just that! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @VogelWendi
  • KimberleyAstle Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1 The biggest challenge facing teachers is being able to visualize NGSS teaching and learning so they self recognize needed shifts. Hence the need for resources like exemplar videos and the work of the PRP to support development of high quality examples.#NGSSCHAT
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 We actually used criteria, constraints, and a decision matrix (a la @MTU_MiSTAR ) with our teachers to narrow down our pilot choices as a district. It's kinda amazing how engineering processes work in so many situations! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @CariWilliamz, @MTU_MiSTAR
  • marismiller6 Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Marisa Miller joining a little late to the #NGSSchat here at #NSTA18
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    No, you don't. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: As a co-developer with educators of materials, such criterion-based reviews help us improve our own materials to better connect with students' interests and deepen assessments #NGSSChat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
      Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • hoffmanteambret Nov 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1 Not all T's teaching science are science curriculum specialists. Many in Elem and MS are generalists and have equal demands in other disciplines. Have to make it approachable.#NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I say "that's nice" and then roll my eyes when they aren't looking. :-) But more constructively, I look for opportunities to point out how we as educators can always be improving our practice. The ones I am most impressed with are in a state of continuous improvement. #ngsschat
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Bill Penuel, professor of learning sciences at @cueducation, joining late for #NGSSChat
  • revel56 Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Q2) well aligned examples help teachers see the big pictures. #NGSSchat
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Productive talk NAILS speaking and listening ELA standards - better than they do in English class. CER is ELA's writing dream, and models are text. We got this, Science! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @VogelWendi, @wandabryant
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Connecting this to the instructional materials question..... I think looking at well-designed, high-quality materials, with great educative features, is one of the only ways to respond to "I already do this." #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    This is great use of criteria and constraints and really models to educators how we can use them in a relevant way #NGSSchat
    • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
      A2 We actually used criteria, constraints, and a decision matrix (a la @MTU_MiSTAR ) with our teachers to narrow down our pilot choices as a district. It's kinda amazing how engineering processes work in so many situations! #NGSSchat
      In reply to @CariWilliamz, @MTU_MiSTAR
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: This Q sparked another related question in my mind: are criterion-based-reviewed units the best ones to use in a unit study across classrooms, or is better for teachers to try to do that evaluation as part of the process? Ya know, in their spare time... #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: seems like there is alot out criteria reviewed materials out there: https://t.co/xJQv11m839 so choosing one or two to focus on instead of trying to have every material possible #ngsschat
    In reply to @CariWilliamz
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Such a great point Diana--1 of the things I love about criterion-based conversations & using tools like EQuIP and the Lesson Screener is that the focus is on improvement-- moving from where we are. Where I am differs by topic (assessment vs instruction, for example) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @Ted_NSTA
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A1: I use criteria like the EQuIP rubric to help teachers understand what is new and different about three-dimensional teaching and learning. #ngsschat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
      Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: I ❤️ this ? bc it’s at the core of what I do. Ts shouldn’t be expected to develop and implement and assess everything themselves. Not that they’re incapable but it’s too much. Using things like the #SciencePRP reviews, Ts can then adjust and adapt to meet S needs. #ngsschat
    • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q2 more info :): This report from the @CarnegieCorp describes the need for high-quality science instructional materials as urgent and needed for translation of the #NGSSchat
      • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
        Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • ksscienceguy Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Just like with students who bring important knowledge with them to the classroom, it's important to build on what educators are already doing that is quality and then push them to the next level. Ask for what they are doing and start the conversation. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A1: Finding good anchors (phenomena and design challenges) that connect to students' interests, experiences, and identities AND address PEs; shifting from "covering" topics to "figuring out" big ideas and crosscutting concepts using practices #NGSSChat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • wandabryant Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 Using criteria will help districts make good choices! I’d go with excellent and free first #NGSSchat
  • Terry711 Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Q2 - I could see using them as models to compare our newly written NGSS units along with the EQuiP rubric to improve and enhance our curriculum. #ngsschat
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Yes, absolutely. The shifts are hard for science teachers who majored in science, let alone other majors. We need to support teacher learning (esp K-5) in content and pedagogy. That’s a big ask, especially in a climate that values math and ELA above all. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @Ted_NSTA
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Here is the report written by @jamesbshort from the @CarnegieCorp https://t.co/7bxzZrrOFf #NGSSchat
    • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q2 more info :): This report from the @CarnegieCorp describes the need for high-quality science instructional materials as urgent and needed for translation of the #NGSSchat
      • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
        Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    And then the conversation dies, along w/ the chance to improve instruction...#ngsschat
    In reply to @geererc, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 I usually recommend a T find something already vetted w/ EQuIP or written under standards writers/reviewers (such as @bpenuel) first. Then use the exemplar as a model if want to write their own. I never recommend Ts do it alone. Test and revise too. #NGSSchat
  • hoffmanteambret Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Resources for EQuIP? Love to hear more! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Hi Ryan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @revel56
  • tjscience Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2: I have been using criterion-based reviews as examples for PSTs to unpack and look for key components of high-quality materials across different frameworks (5E, Storylines, AST, etc.) #NGSSchat
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q3: The Science PRP uses the EQuIP rubric to facilitate discussions & feeddback about #NGSS quality design. Please share an example of how criterion-based discussion among peers have move your thinking forward.#NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I like the phenomena checklist that @TdiShelton and @Ted_NSTA have shared. https://t.co/CQYRrFOCTB #ngsschat
    In reply to @kirandpurohit, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Plus we embedded engineering PEs in our teacher PD - for all my teachers who haven't used them yet. Double bonus. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @CariWilliamz
  • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Was in an elementary class and the Ts didn't realize science uses the terms claim and evidence too. :) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @geererc, @wandabryant
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Welcome Marisa! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @marismiller6
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: We used parts of the EQuIP lesson screener with teachers developing & field testing materials for the first time. Digging into the criteria and reading them against materials we were co-developing really helped. #ngsschat
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: For some criteria for NGSS materials and their basis in research, see this paper by @reiserbrianj and me just out yesterday: https://t.co/SWLoAYBAaq #NGSSChat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
      Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • ksscienceguy Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Several people have mentioned the #SciencePRP and their hard work to vet materials using the EQuIP Rubric for Science (https://t.co/qEYAixEeUz). Those materials can be found at https://t.co/OlQIfvGFLW #NGSSchat
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Writing curriculum is a team sport! A contact sport at that! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @VogelWendi
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    How about some genuine curiosity? “Awesome! Can you share some ideas with me? Can I share some ideas with you?” #ngsschat Let’s build trust w/ peers.
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    How can we gently support those ah-ha moments? How can we create opportunities to support the confrontation of our own misconceptions? This has been more powerful for me than anything else-- my own ah-ha moments #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JMNorrisISP, @geererc, @Ted_NSTA
  • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    This is SOOO much harder than one might think! #NGSSchat
    • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
      A1: Finding good anchors (phenomena and design challenges) that connect to students' interests, experiences, and identities AND address PEs; shifting from "covering" topics to "figuring out" big ideas and crosscutting concepts using practices #NGSSChat
      • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
        Q1: What is the biggest challenge for you or the educators you work with when translating the vision of the Framework & #NGSSinto classroom teaching & learning? What do you need more of? #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Thanks so much for joining us Bill! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @bpenuel, @cueducation
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Yes. The new @AcesseProject Resource E: Selecting Anchoring Phenomena for Equitable 3D Teaching and Learning can help with the first of these: https://t.co/H6NAOcLPUc #NGSSChat
    In reply to @VogelWendi, @AcesseProject
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Yes! I think my other comment about genuine curiosity and trust building goes a long way. #ngsschat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @geererc, @Ted_NSTA
  • Terry711 Nov 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A1 That is the exact situation that our district found ourselves in, so many of units have potential but still need work to make them truly 3D. #NGSSchat
    • VogelWendi Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1 Once initial training #NGSS occurs, resources are needed. They are coming out and take while to write (which I understand, but districts are impatient due to assessment). Once in hands of Ts, need even more support w/ the how. Heavy lift. #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Nov 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    What is your phenomenon?!? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @zpouellette
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Two? :-) I write like I'm running out of time? #HamiltonNGSS #6solidhoursanight #NGSSChat
    In reply to @hhereau, @reiserbrianj
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: Using evidence of the criterion seems to help teachers have discussions about the curriculum as a third point instead of using personal opinions to drive the discussion #NGSSchat
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A2: The @AmbScienceTeach model is another way to engage Ts in evaluating 3D lessons b4 using more “official” rubrics. Did the lesson engage in big science ideas? Elicit student thinking? Engage in sense making and support changes? Work toward explanation of phenomena? #NGSSchat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
      Q2 How could you use criterion-based reviews of instructional materials in your practice? How could these concrete examples of high-quality lessons + units? #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: just really lucky to make time for these chats otherwise I would not have the knowledge I need to take the leap into NGSS lessons. Minimal discussion w dept but trying my best. #NGSSchat
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: Feedback to our team using the new Task Screener from @AchieveInc @OfficialNGSS is helping us revise 3D assessments to be more compelling to students, by doing a better job of problematizing assessments. Tool is here: https://t.co/0IaFcXetvq #NGSSChat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3: The Science PRP uses the EQuIP rubric to facilitate discussions & feeddback about #NGSS quality design. Please share an example of how criterion-based discussion among peers have move your thinking forward.#NGSSchat
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Q4: 1 of the expectations of the Framework= ALL students become careful consumers of sci & tech info. How can posted high-quality examples create critical consumers of instructional materials? What might be the dangers of making unsupported claims of #NGSS alignment? #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Q3 here in #NGSSchat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3: The Science PRP uses the EQuIP rubric to facilitate discussions & feeddback about #NGSS quality design. Please share an example of how criterion-based discussion among peers have move your thinking forward.#NGSSchat
  • revel56 Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Q3) Working with the SciencePRP has pushed me to change my teaching. #Ngsschat
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Ah, shades of yesterday's Twitter storm around Ts use of social media :-) #NGSSChat
    In reply to @vawolb
  • NGSSphenomena Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Great phenomenon!! How did this happen?!?! #NGSS #NGSSchat
  • MsVickScience Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Whenever I work with the NGSS@NSTA Curators! Feedback on interpretations of resources helps move my NGSS understanding forward! #NGSSchat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3: The Science PRP uses the EQuIP rubric to facilitate discussions & feeddback about #NGSS quality design. Please share an example of how criterion-based discussion among peers have move your thinking forward.#NGSSchat
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    #NGSSchat
    In reply to @bpenuel, @hhereau, @reiserbrianj
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q3 If you cannot think of an example, please share a question you have about criterion-based conversations or the EQuIP process? #NGSSchat
    • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Q3 here in #NGSSchat
      • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
        Q3: The Science PRP uses the EQuIP rubric to facilitate discussions & feeddback about #NGSS quality design. Please share an example of how criterion-based discussion among peers have move your thinking forward.#NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Please tell me more about this Ryan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @revel56
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4: Obvious one is that official rollout of assessments & buy in by S & Parents will be disastrous like Common Core! #NGSSchat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Q4: 1 of the expectations of the Framework= ALL students become careful consumers of sci & tech info. How can posted high-quality examples create critical consumers of instructional materials? What might be the dangers of making unsupported claims of #NGSS alignment? #NGSSchat
  • marismiller6 Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: I've seen teachers using or talking about a common curriculum allows everyone an entry point and a "common experience" to draw from. When everyone does there own things its more difficult to dig into the deep questions. #ngsschat
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: Agree with @bpenuel. Even the very simple eight yes/no questions in the Task Prescreen gave me ah-ha moments. #NGSSchat https://t.co/ANb6ypXgat
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4: High quality materials give educators a sense of what 3D learning is meant to be. Less-than-high-quality materials that claim to be high quality can confuse educators of what high quality really looks like. #ngsschat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Q4: 1 of the expectations of the Framework= ALL students become careful consumers of sci & tech info. How can posted high-quality examples create critical consumers of instructional materials? What might be the dangers of making unsupported claims of #NGSS alignment? #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Q4 here on #NGSSchat -- choose to answer one or both :) #NGSSchat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Q4: 1 of the expectations of the Framework= ALL students become careful consumers of sci & tech info. How can posted high-quality examples create critical consumers of instructional materials? What might be the dangers of making unsupported claims of #NGSS alignment? #NGSSchat
  • MsVickScience Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4 Dangers: Ts thinking materials are 3D but aren't. Ss being exposed to concepts above/ below grade level. Phenomenon not being used to drive instruction. #NGSSchat
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    I think it depends on how it’s framed. People don’t like to feel like what they’re doing is wrong. We’re wired to protect our beliefs. I struggle with this myself so don’t let me give you the impression that I’ve got it all figured out. :) #ngsschat
    In reply to @geererc, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Follow up Q4 How do we increase demand for high-quality 3D instructional materials? #NGSSchat https://t.co/UB1MPmbfKx
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: To be a critical consumer, you have to spend time reviewing and calibrating with others, better yet, adapting and designing materials with guidance from those who have gone before #NGSSChat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Q4: 1 of the expectations of the Framework= ALL students become careful consumers of sci & tech info. How can posted high-quality examples create critical consumers of instructional materials? What might be the dangers of making unsupported claims of #NGSS alignment? #NGSSchat
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    I'd like data on how NGSS reaches ALL students. Maybe start teacher convos then with equity as the motivator. I hit brick walls with my teachers who are convinced NGSS will not prepare students for AP science in high school or lecture hall science in universities. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @richbacolor
  • revel56 Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q3) Working on reviewing materials in a very deep and comprehensive way really brings the NGSS shifts into clear focus. Once I drank the koolaid I just had to make my own teaching live up to the dream! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: The danger is that adoption committees will select materials that look familiar, but that don't reflect the shifts called for in the NGSS #NGSSChat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Q4: 1 of the expectations of the Framework= ALL students become careful consumers of sci & tech info. How can posted high-quality examples create critical consumers of instructional materials? What might be the dangers of making unsupported claims of #NGSS alignment? #NGSSchat
  • marismiller6 Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: Without evaluating a resource with the EQuIP rubric from @AchieveInc , curriculum can be labeled NGSS but its difficult for teachers or administrators to know if it reaches the three dimensions. #ngsschat
  • WmGReed Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Hi everyone! After parent conferences today I'm getting a late start on #ngsschat, tweeting from Chicago, where I teach high school
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    But @JMNorrisISP !!! I was counting on you to answer all my questions!!!! #ngsschat
    • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
      I think it depends on how it’s framed. People don’t like to feel like what they’re doing is wrong. We’re wired to protect our beliefs. I struggle with this myself so don’t let me give you the impression that I’ve got it all figured out. :) #ngsschat
      In reply to @geererc, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • Terry711 Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Q3 There lies one of my challenges which is getting to this point as implementation discussion has been primarily focused on timing and scheduling lab time versus classroom time. #ngsschat
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Follow up A4: The best way I know is give teachers agency in helping design or adapt materials. That way, it builds our collective capacity and the desire for new materials that reflect the shifts #NGSSChat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: I do think it's going to be messy. Not enough PD and not enough time for discussion and creation of these items. I definitely want vetted stuff that is "approved" but I also want to make some great things I do align with NGSS! #ngsschat
    • MsVickScience Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A4 Dangers: Ts thinking materials are 3D but aren't. Ss being exposed to concepts above/ below grade level. Phenomenon not being used to drive instruction. #NGSSchat
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: One thing I know is Wayne County Michigan has amazing Ts pushing for high quality 3D science for all Ss. In #ngsschat tonight, @hhereau @geererc and @wandabryant - these are people I learn from and they champion #ScienceforAll
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4 - High quality examples really shift people's expectations about characteristics of materials. We come to expect phenomena, coherence, support for all learners..... instead of seeing these things as unusual or "extra" #ngsschat
  • tjscience Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: We discussed this image this semester - built a list with pros & cons of a scripted curriculum, vs more "wide-open" science curriculum. Especially with early career teachers vs long-term educators... #NGSSchat
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Follow up to A4: Another way is to focus workshops on 3D assessment, as it gives teachers a sense of what kinds of performances are expected, and creates a sense of how and where current materials fall short #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: I sometimes run into materials that feel aligned to old standards, but tagged as NGSS. This sends the message not much has changed, when in truth, the rigor and content and relevance have all moved forward! #NGSSchat
  • quincygirls1 Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Also T's taking a good 3-D lesson picking it apart and turning it into a traditional lesson because it is more comfortable. #ngsschat
    In reply to @MsVickScience
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    My colleagues don't think they're wrong. They think I'm a crazy hippy asking them to water down their very demanding curriculum. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JMNorrisISP, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Yes! Gotta dig into those NGSS alignment claims and see what's behind them. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @marismiller6, @AchieveInc
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3: At our meeting yesterday, talking about the words “develop and use” for SEPs, DCIs, and CCCs with @ksscienceguy was enlightening. I hadn’t thought about the nuance of those two words, but it helped me think through scaffolding of the 3D. #ngsschat
    • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Q3 here in #NGSSchat
      • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
        Q3: The Science PRP uses the EQuIP rubric to facilitate discussions & feeddback about #NGSS quality design. Please share an example of how criterion-based discussion among peers have move your thinking forward.#NGSSchat
  • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #ngsschat Q5: What are your experiences with tools like the EQuIP rubric? How can the EQuIP rubric, NGSS lesson Screener, PEEC or Nextgen TIME (all criterion-based tools) help to guide in the selection of new curriculum that claims to be designed for NGSS?
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: It helps to have quality examples to better understand NGSS alignment. One danger that we may see soon is with publishers claiming NGSS alignment when districts are considering adoption #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Follow up: What info do you need to consider using these tools in your practice? need to consider using these tools in your practice? #NGSSchat Lesson Screener https://t.co/HZMvEo9ute EQuIP Rubric https://t.co/Ode8mzNQSA
  • revel56 Nov 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Q4) high quality materials will help teachers make science learning available to all learners. #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: I think if you are new you want scripted stuff- as you find what works long term educators want freedom to pull current, relevant items and still get them to a point of 3D activities/lessons. But back to A1: TIME #ngsschat
    In reply to @tjscience
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Does being one of the NGSS geeks who developed the EQuIP Rubric count? #ngsschat
    • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
      #ngsschat Q5: What are your experiences with tools like the EQuIP rubric? How can the EQuIP rubric, NGSS lesson Screener, PEEC or Nextgen TIME (all criterion-based tools) help to guide in the selection of new curriculum that claims to be designed for NGSS?
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Follow up A: You need good contrasting cases when evaluating materials -- materials that are closer to being aligned, as well as farther away. Just as you generally need at least two phenomena to generalize and see differences #NGSSChat
  • MsVickScience Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I agree! Ts have to have admin support and have open dialogues with Ss and parents. Trying new things means sometimes they don't work 100% & we need to reevaluate. #ngsschat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl
  • quincygirls1 Nov 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A5 Self-taught...Can you point us in the direction of PD opportunities? #NGSSchat
    • kmgill135 Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
      #ngsschat Q5: What are your experiences with tools like the EQuIP rubric? How can the EQuIP rubric, NGSS lesson Screener, PEEC or Nextgen TIME (all criterion-based tools) help to guide in the selection of new curriculum that claims to be designed for NGSS?
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    I see this too! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @tjscience
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Great to see you Will! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @WmGReed
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I love this answer! :) #NGSSchat
    • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
      A4: I do think it's going to be messy. Not enough PD and not enough time for discussion and creation of these items. I definitely want vetted stuff that is "approved" but I also want to make some great things I do align with NGSS! #ngsschat
      • MsVickScience Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
        A4 Dangers: Ts thinking materials are 3D but aren't. Ss being exposed to concepts above/ below grade level. Phenomenon not being used to drive instruction. #NGSSchat
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5: EQuIP rubric and NGSS Lesson Screener has really helped me understand what to look for in NGSS Designed materials. How has it helped anyone with PD? #NGSSchat
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
    I once asked an AP Sci T - what if NGSS means more Ss are ready, willing, & able to take AP? He said “Not everyone is cut out for AP.” Some folks don’t want #science4all so like Mr Rogers says, I look for the helpers...like you. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @geererc
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Maybe less than two? This came out today and may be of interest to folks: https://t.co/Luj1o9k99Y #NGSSChat
    In reply to @hhereau, @reiserbrianj
  • teacher2teacher Nov 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Combine ideas here to help T @JoseASaltos have an explosive lesson on chemical reactions! #NGSSchat #scilap
  • hhereau Nov 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5 you can't skim through these tools, they are time consuming and require careful review of materials and the tool. You need to be trained to use them so you really understand what each criterion means. Tools are only as good as your understanding of how to use them #NGSSchat
  • vawolb Nov 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: It takes a good chunk of time to go through the EQuIP Rubric thoroughly, but MAN OH MAN do you know those materials well at the end! #ngsschat
  • kirandpurohit Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Still thinking about @tjscience's A3 . . . Instead of paint by numbers (which is VERY scripted) what about learning complex pieces of music? Or mastering a tricky recipe? #ngsschat
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A must read! #ngsschat
  • WmGReed Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I am heartened by the wealth of resources out there accessible to all teachers, like EQuIP, lesson screeners, PRP, and so much more. not to mention the great interactive communities that exist through Twitter, NGSS Learning Center, and virtual conferences and webinars #ngsschat
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    And at K-5, the time for Ts to prep and actually use those materials with children. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @revel56
  • KimberleyAstle Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5 Serving on the PRP and using the EQuIP rubric to evaluate lessons and units has greatly honed my understanding of NGSS learning design to a degree beyond anything else I have done. It is in itself a form of intense professional learning. #NGSSCHAT
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    trying out an open investigation and watching Ss make argument boards today despite feeling super uncomfortable that their data, evidence and justification might not be "great"-- but I am applauding them every step for trying along with me! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @richbacolor, @geererc
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Here you go Shawn! Both @OfficialNGSS + @NSTA offer PL & both offer EQuIP workshops https://t.co/r6ESNGHYXH #NGSSchat
    In reply to @quincygirls1, @OfficialNGSS, @NSTA
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Very worth the effort! I have learned so much using the EQuIP rubric #NGSSchat
    In reply to @vawolb
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Yes - I've used the screeners for lessons and assessments with teachers as we evaluate curricula for adoption. The one page screeners are far more useful IMO especially for teachers who aren't totally comfortable with NGSS to begin with. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @CariWilliamz
  • quincygirls1 Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Awesome! Why I love #NGSSchat!
  • marismiller6 Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5: The EQuIP rubric and Lesson Screener have allowed me to adjust "old" lessons to be more three-dimensional and incorporate phenomena. they're not perfect but I know what is good and where I need to make it better! #ngsschat
  • sciresSoehl Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
    so where do we get training? How do we bring in the tools and a pro or trainer without costing an arm and a leg? And how do we get admin who are not versed in science to understand that this is not easy or quick fix? #NGSSchat HELP!
    In reply to @hhereau
  • KimberleyAstle Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Hear, hear! #ngsschat
    In reply to @vawolb
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
    These are all amazing resources! And run by some fantastic people who really just want to help all educators further their practice. #ngsschat
    • WmGReed Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
      I am heartened by the wealth of resources out there accessible to all teachers, like EQuIP, lesson screeners, PRP, and so much more. not to mention the great interactive communities that exist through Twitter, NGSS Learning Center, and virtual conferences and webinars #ngsschat
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q6: A challenge to building a bank of quality materials is finding them. The PRP process is designed to be constructive+support continuous impvmt reviews below the top 2 cat of high-quality are not shared publicly. What would you need to consider submitting a lesson? #ngsschat
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Band and Orchestra parents don’t come to concerts and expect to hear scales. Yet, many are content to ask “what grade did s/he get in science?” Why aren’t performance tasks valued in academic classes like they are in the arts? #NGSSChat
    In reply to @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • wandabryant Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    How much time would be needed to learn how to use the tools? Would they help during curriculum adoption or is there a simpler tool?#NGSSChat
    In reply to @hhereau
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Yes. One of the challenges of NGSS is weaving those 3D's plus phenomena plus NoS and being accountable for it all over several grade levels...Ts cannot do it on their own in their spare time. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • SupHFSci Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Yes! If you’re familiar w the standards and your content I don’t feel like it’s that tough to create solid 3d experiences... but it does take time to get there. We need to tailor our instruction to our students’ needs and experiences to achieve best outcomes IMO #NGSSChat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @tjscience
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    State conferences and regional BOCES are a great way-- thoughts? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @hhereau
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Find out more about the Science PRP panel here https://t.co/bc8Wjc8Z52 #NGSSchat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6: A challenge to building a bank of quality materials is finding them. The PRP process is designed to be constructive+support continuous impvmt reviews below the top 2 cat of high-quality are not shared publicly. What would you need to consider submitting a lesson? #ngsschat
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6: Submitting a lesson or unit is tough and intimidating, but the feedback is so valuable! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Please tell me more ... #NGSSchat
    In reply to @CariWilliamz
  • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
    No, that was a commissioned paper to help inform the writing of the report #NGSSChat
    In reply to @WmGReed, @hhereau, @reiserbrianj
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
    This is so true! Education is practice as well and so many forget that! Not every thing students do need to be graded, but needs critical feedback for growth instead #ngsschat
    • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
      Band and Orchestra parents don’t come to concerts and expect to hear scales. Yet, many are content to ask “what grade did s/he get in science?” Why aren’t performance tasks valued in academic classes like they are in the arts? #NGSSChat
      In reply to @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • Ted_NSTA Nov 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: I need one of those time-turners that Hermione had in the Harry Potter movies. #ngsschat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6: A challenge to building a bank of quality materials is finding them. The PRP process is designed to be constructive+support continuous impvmt reviews below the top 2 cat of high-quality are not shared publicly. What would you need to consider submitting a lesson? #ngsschat
  • revel56 Nov 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Q6) I would need to clone myself so I could work more hours.#NGSSchat
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I just sat through conferences tonight and every parent I explained SEPs and CCCs to was overly enthusiastic - they want that for their kids. They don't know we're offering it. Somehow we need to more widely communicate it. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @richbacolor, @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    It seems that we need to help shift the culture in this direction. Maybe through celebrations and sharing out our "best of" products from performance tasks might be a good place to start #NGSSchat
    In reply to @richbacolor, @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • WmGReed Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Yes! also want to make one more quick point regarding Q4. Even with vetted materials (PRP approved, etc.), it's important that teachers and other stakeholders recognize that THEY ARE NOT PERFECT, and likely need to be adapted to specific contexts and improved otherwise #ngsschat
    • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
      These are all amazing resources! And run by some fantastic people who really just want to help all educators further their practice. #ngsschat
      • WmGReed Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
        I am heartened by the wealth of resources out there accessible to all teachers, like EQuIP, lesson screeners, PRP, and so much more. not to mention the great interactive communities that exist through Twitter, NGSS Learning Center, and virtual conferences and webinars #ngsschat
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    So true, but the feedback is invaluable and all evidence based. #ngsschat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
      A6: Submitting a lesson or unit is tough and intimidating, but the feedback is so valuable! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks so much to the @Achieve Science PRP team hosts tonight @krademaker @vawolb @revel56 @BethPesnell @kmgill135 @CariWilliamz #NGSSchat
  • geererc Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Writing NGSS curriculum has been the highlight of my career and I've worked with such incredible people! #NGSSchat @MTU_MiSTAR
    • bpenuel Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
      Writing curriculum is a team sport! A contact sport at that! #NGSSChat
      In reply to @VogelWendi
  • wandabryant Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks for the resource! I’ll check it out! #ngsschat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Love this! #NGSSchat
    • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
      It seems that we need to help shift the culture in this direction. Maybe through celebrations and sharing out our "best of" products from performance tasks might be a good place to start #NGSSchat
      In reply to @richbacolor, @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • SupHFSci Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Those are both following/reciting w some room for collaboration & interpretation. I don’t go to the orchestra concert expecting my son & every other kid to play their own composition. Kids in our Sci classes need to create, evaluate, critique. Not rly the same thing? #NGSSChat
    In reply to @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • CariWilliamz Nov 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I was very nervous to submit a unit and but the feedback confirmed so much of my learning since it was written and pushed my thinking even more. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • richbacolor Nov 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Definitely agree. Let’s get some ideas together about how to best get that message out to the whole community. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @geererc, @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • JMNorrisISP Nov 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Spot on; it’s very important to meet people where they are and influence how you can. And that word “honor” is really important because it’s respectful, not presuming to know all answers, and trust building. #ngsschat
    In reply to @jessesemeyn, @geererc, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • KimberleyAstle Nov 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Awesome! What parent wouldn't want their child to be able to sense-make and reason, develop solid explanations, evaluate information, understand and explain relationships, communicate effectively and all the rest. These are tools for success in life, not just science!#ngsschat
    In reply to @geererc, @richbacolor, @kirandpurohit, @tjscience
  • krademaker Nov 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
    You can find some great materials for parents about the NGSS at https://t.co/m0h32YaImv and https://t.co/TNsXu6vzOb #ngsschat