#MOedchat Archive
The water cooler for Missouri educators! Learn and laugh with us!
Thursday April 13, 2017
10:00 PM EDT
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#MOedchat
Please introduce yourself, tell us your role in education, and where in the world are you tweeting from?
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Apr 13 @ 10:00 PM EDT
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TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Hey
#moedchat
Ted, middle school principal from O'Fallon, MO Ready to talk hacking homework.
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Your
#MOedchat
moderators:
@di_chamberlain
@shspjones
@MNebel
@LauraGilchrist4
@debbiefuco
@awall777
@wmchamberlain
@posickj
@TedHiff
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:01 PM EDT
I'm Connie Hamilton, Curriculum Director in Saranac, MI and co-author of
#HackingHomework
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Good evening! Dianna- math teacher from the SW corner of MO.
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michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Hello
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friends! Michele- 4th grade from St. Charles, MO
#FHSDlearns
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Dan, business teacher from St. Louis. Joining in until it's time to go get ice cream.
#Moedchat
#priorities
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Good to see you again
@michelelkelly
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In reply to @michelelkelly, @michelelkelly
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Good evening from Fulton!
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Hi
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Mandi from St. Joe, HS math teacher.
mjjohnson1216
Apr 13 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Excited to join
#moedchat
as
@conniehamilton
is moderating! Great topic to learn and reflect about. Meredith from Florida
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Podcaster Nathaniel Bozarth of
#WideRuledPodcast
tweeting from Hyde Park! I'm all about advocating for equality in education.
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hackmylearning
Apr 13 @ 10:03 PM EDT
I represent the
#hacklearning
team. Glad to be here for
#MOedchat
tonight.
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:03 PM EDT
It's always time to go get ice cream, isn't it? Glad to have you here.
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In reply to @WinkelerD
KBaumgartner75
Apr 13 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Kristy, 1st gd. St. Louis
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Hi Mandi.
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In reply to @TTmomTT
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Hi Erin. Thanks for joining
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In reply to @e_whalen
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Yes- a fellow math teacher! Glad you are joining us tonight!
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In reply to @TTmomTT
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:04 PM EDT
of course! I love
#MOedchat
!
In reply to @conniehamilton
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Lauren, K-4 Rdg T, from St. Peters, MO pumped for
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Hi Lauren.
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In reply to @MsLaurenMertz
BusEd11
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Theresa here from Southern Illinois, glad to join
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tonight
mjjohnson1216
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
A1. One more thing to do. I was a rule follower and rarely questioned anything.
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1-I was that student who just did what was expected of me. I don't recall actually "thinking" about it much.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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Bethany_Petty
Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Hi, from Farmington!
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TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Hi
@mjjohnson1216
so glad you're joining
#moedchat
tonight
mjjohnson1216
Apr 13 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Excited to join
#moedchat
as
@conniehamilton
is moderating! Great topic to learn and reflect about. Meredith from Florida
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM EDT
I'm in Michigan, Theresa.
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In reply to @BusEd11
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1) I did everything I could, including a bad job, to get homework done before I left school.
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM EDT
I'm Chantell & I teach a 4th gr departmentalized
#STEM
+
#PBL
room in St. Louis. They're amazing people.
#moedchat
shspjones
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1 didn't like it but had to do it I do think we need practice but too much at home I didn't like
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: Here's my kindergarten picture. Throughout school I cared about getting HW done, but didn't necessarily care if I learned.
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michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: I didn't mind HW as a S at first, but I didn't struggle and finished quickly. Later, I struggled to see the point. Boring.
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WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: I thought about homework as something necessary to learn and grow. I felt that it helped make me better as a S.
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tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
#moedchat
Tina from St. Charles! Hey
@MsLaurenMertz
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Do you think that's the same for students today?
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In reply to @di_chamberlain
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1 Just thought homework was something I had to do. Few assignments were inspiring, engaging or interesting to me.
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wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Wasn't sure about coming in to this chat because I am so very anti-homework in any form.
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KBaumgartner75
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1 Never a fan of doing hmwk but I felt it was just a part of learning & practicing skills. I completed it responsibly
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e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: The academic part of school was my strength as a kid so I didn't mind hw too much. Didn't usually read though - just faked it
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hackmylearning
Apr 13 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1: How many students approach homework with this perspective? Compliance doesn't equal learning.
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TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1. In high school I did the work. I put in more effort for those classes w/ passionate teachers.
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1: I had to do my homework or my parents would kill me. I didn't think about learning from it, it was just something I had to do.
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michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Yes! Same here.
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In reply to @debbiefuco
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1: I dreaded hw and it always felt like busy work.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:08 PM EDT
I don't think students are the same today. I teach MS math. They question everything you ask them to do!
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In reply to @conniehamilton
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1: I didn't like homework but knew it had to get done. Usually did it while watching tv.
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MindySouth
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Hi! Mindy Ed Tech from Farmington
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cybraryman1
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1 HW was a chore with plenty of worksheets to complete in the past. My HW Debate page
https://t.co/aAKQSpYzV6
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TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
@conniehamilton
you know that's very true.
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: Here's my kindergarten picture. Throughout school I cared about getting HW done, but didn't necessarily care if I learned.
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1. I was a classic over-achiever. I'm stunned now at how little I've retained.
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wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Homework doesn't fit into my education philosophy. I see it as an infringement on the students' and familiy's time.
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ChrisQuinn64
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1: I could never quite understand the 'why' behind what we were asked to do after school hours...no really good answers either.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Welcome friend, I'm the same!
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In reply to @wmchamberlain
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Perhaps you were already responsible and that's why you did your homework.
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In reply to @KBaumgartner75
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Same here. But the ones that were engaging were awesome! Rare, but awesome.
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In reply to @debbiefuco
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
I can't answer it
#smh
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In reply to @ChrisQuinn64
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: I just looked for answers and wanted a good grade. Not really interested in the learning.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1 Distinctly remember a newspaper assignment in middle school where we had to make our own newspaper front page. Loved it!
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MindySouth
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1 - I enjoyed projects but didn't like worksheets. I did it to stay out of trouble. :)
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wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
I find that I don't make many friends with my hard line stance on homework ;)
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In reply to @TechieTcher
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
That is so true!
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In reply to @bo_nathaniel
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: I often completed HW in the period before it was due...just to add a level of challenge to it. Took years to realize this
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Mrs. Steinhoff (3rd Grade) inspired me to do my best. Not all teachers did that.
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM EDT
I remember math being cause for the classic, When am I ever going to use this?
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I loved it when calculus and physics collided tho!
In reply to @di_chamberlain, @conniehamilton
Dr_TParker
Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A1 I liked it...maybe bc it was easy for me. I was a Teacher Pleaser. I think I had the mindset Completed Homework=Good Student
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herleadrshplsns
Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Kia here! A1 I liked reports/projects/worksheets. My mom was in school 2. We did work together. Felt like I learned something
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i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Agreed. There are few assignments I remember.
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In reply to @debbiefuco
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM EDT
I skipped lunch in HS to get my math done in the library. I chose to not eat over having homework. That is a big deal.
#moedchat
#iliketoeat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
I loved math hw - it was my strength. I don't teach math, miss it like crazy. I've been known to do math in my sleep.
#notkidding
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Bethany_Petty
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1: homework for me was something to finish ..not worried abt learning. Except for the higher level activities- those were good!
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
So HW didn't help you remember what you learned forever?
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1. I was a classic over-achiever. I'm stunned now at how little I've retained.
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tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
That would totally stress me out Stephanie! 😂
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In reply to @i3algebra
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
I was a good procrastinator. I remember writing entire research papers the night before they were due...on an actual typewriter.
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In reply to @i3algebra
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
I've found that many are coming around to my side tho...
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In reply to @wmchamberlain, @TechieTcher
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
It's amazing how that rapport makes it easier (or at least be motivated) to complete the work!
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In reply to @TedHiff
IBPBLJill
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
I used to ditch class & crawl into the HVAC vents through the girls bathroom & listen to interesting Ts. Never did homework
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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shspjones
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1 especially hated it on ballgame nights made for a late night
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
So many of us had this approach to HW, yet we continue to give it. Why?
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MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: I just looked for answers and wanted a good grade. Not really interested in the learning.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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lizzy_malloy
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi there! Liz from O'Fallon- admin. Intern/Literacy coach
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
I think you are in good company here.
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In reply to @wmchamberlain, @TechieTcher
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
so many rational arguments against it...
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In reply to @michelelkelly, @TechieTcher
janet_braud
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi - Janet from KC A1: hmwk was part of school in the 70s. Never gave it a 2nd thought but can't say I learned any more or less.
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thehortonashley
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1 Loved homework as a kid. As I got older, not so much. My schedule was way too busy
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
The forever lessons were learned through projects, really interesting classroom discussions and metaphors, books I read...
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In reply to @conniehamilton
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2. Agree or Disagree. Students should be graded on homework. Explain.
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Ditto. Slowly, very slowly, some are coming around, but it's still such a hot topic I've noticed.
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In reply to @wmchamberlain
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Hi Liz. Welcome to
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In reply to @lizzy_malloy
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
LOL! Can't believe how little I can remember about the higher level math after not using it for so long!
#moedchat
#kindasad
In reply to @conniehamilton
classroomtools
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Here is a homework assignment students loved, and did exceptionally well with.
https://t.co/6Z5UasHsD9
#moedchat
In reply to @wmchamberlain
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Hey Liz!!!
#moedchat
In reply to @lizzy_malloy
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
more progressive educators online now than a few years ago ;)
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In reply to @TTmomTT, @TechieTcher
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
I went K-7 in a high performing school district, then moved to rural MO. Put in lower math and other classes. It was too easy
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In reply to @tnalau
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
!!!!!! Whoa! Like Mission Impossible style?
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In reply to @IBPBLJill
thehortonashley
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A1 As I got older. I put more effort in for the teachers/professors that put in more effort.
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mjjohnson1216
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
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In reply to @conniehamilton
lizzy_malloy
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A1: Found it boring, but completed the task anyway
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msmorrislearns
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Amanda from St. Charles, MO. Third grade (the best grade)
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
An ELA teacher shared this with me...
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
@alicekeeler
Want to pop in for a hw chat?
#moedchat
right now. :)
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Going back 40+ years and yet it looks pretty much the same.
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janet_braud
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi - Janet from KC A1: hmwk was part of school in the 70s. Never gave it a 2nd thought but can't say I learned any more or less.
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wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:15 PM EDT
they would have loved it just as much in school :)
#justsayin
'
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In reply to @classroomtools
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:15 PM EDT
I did my best writing under pressure. That didn't change much in college. If I wrote ahead of time I'd end up changing everything
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In reply to @di_chamberlain
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:15 PM EDT
I thought I had a legit argument in HS for doing my HOMEwork during HOMEroom :)
#MOedchat
#LawyerInTraining
In reply to @i3algebra
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:15 PM EDT
Same here!
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In reply to @i3algebra
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:15 PM EDT
As a rem rdg T, I don't give any except sending home our book from class to read. Doesn't require help from anyone else.
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In reply to @conniehamilton
hackmylearning
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: Grading HW is a broken practice. Data is unreliable when measuring student learning. Ask
@kenoc7
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Was so much to do *besides* HW. I was constantly told how important school involvement was 4 my future. So HW felt like a drag.
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nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A1 meh
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mmgreenEDD
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A1: Homework was always torture for me as a student!
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thehortonashley
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 No. HW should be practice. Practice and coaching. When you give a grade, the learning stops.
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wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
tell us how you really feel ;)
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
janet_braud
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 I don't give HW but if I did my kids wouldn't do it w/o a grade. Actually only the motivated ones would do it either way.
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nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Homework had to be done and only checked for completeness
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In reply to @MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
I mean... do you think today's students "think" about HW and the learning it's supposed to provide?
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In reply to @di_chamberlain
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: No. It is practice to help them become better. It should just be a check-point to ensure they're learning and understanding
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KBaumgartner75
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2 No grading on items that are just skill practice or wksts. Long term projects should receive some form of a grade
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ChrisQuinn64
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A1: Anything graded...complete in the presence of the teacher...if it's that important, T needs evidence of independent work.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2. Agree or Disagree. Students should be graded on homework. Explain.
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tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2 We have had this discussion a lot! When you grade homework who knows who did it!
#GoogleIt
Completion does NOT = proficiency
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herleadrshplsns
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2 Agree BUT also believe it can always be made up since it should b practice. If Ss can pass w/o doing it then something is wrong
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
But you gave it to us anyways?? ; ) even or odds, right
@HeFields3
?
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In reply to @mmgreenEDD, @HeFields3
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
How does HW "ensure" students are learning and understanding?
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In reply to @WinkelerD
thehortonashley
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Ashley from Springfield. 5th grade teacher.
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Love this poem!
https://t.co/k8UfyM2LXF
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
But oh man that website needs updating! Yowzers!
#moedchat
In reply to @wmchamberlain, @classroomtools
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2: 100% disagree!!! Pract what is needed to get better. Grade for accuracy-not fair during learning. Grade for compliance-UGH!!!
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
You too much effort in this response I see.
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Hi Ashley.
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In reply to @thehortonashley
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
a2) students shouldn't be graded on practice, period. Doesn't matter if it is homework or in class.
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
In my opinion, HW is practice. Like practicing for a game. You aren't "graded" on practice, your work shows in the game.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2. Agree or Disagree. Students should be graded on homework. Explain.
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mmgreenEDD
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Disagree, if homework is given it should be for practice only!
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In reply to @MOedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A1: Why would one grade what you can't be certain was actually completed independently by the student?
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2. Agree or Disagree. Students should be graded on homework. Explain.
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mjjohnson1216
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Bedtime here. Love reading everyone's thoughts.
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TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
@conniehamilton
for some it the just the "way you do things". Not saying that's right. But...
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
So many of us had this approach to HW, yet we continue to give it. Why?
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MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: I just looked for answers and wanted a good grade. Not really interested in the learning.
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1. How did you think about and approach homework when you were a student?
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michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: A thousand times disagree! HW does not=application, and grades do not=feedback. No value!
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i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: I believe that whatever you're grading, you should make sure you're grading the mastery/content/skill and not the behavior
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2. Agree or Disagree. Students should be graded on homework. Explain.
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WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
I go through and check it and see that they do it, check for inconsistencies and address them as a class.
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In reply to @conniehamilton
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Shouldn't this have already happened in class though?
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In reply to @WinkelerD
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Hi there
@lizzy_malloy
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lizzy_malloy
Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi there! Liz from O'Fallon- admin. Intern/Literacy coach
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nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Maybe more like this. If homework is the frog and students are the robot
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In reply to @wmchamberlain, @MOedchat
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
No, I think they just grumble about having to do it. They don't see any benefit.
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In reply to @conniehamilton
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Ah yes... I dreaded monster.
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In reply to @TedHiff
mmgreenEDD
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
I didn't know any better them! When you know better you do better!
#moedchat
In reply to @TechieTcher, @HeFields3
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
#thereyougo
#moedchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Here is Q2 again for
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2. Agree or Disagree. Students should be graded on homework. Explain.
#MOEdchat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: torn on this. If not graded, why assign? But we don't assign for grade we assign for learning. Level of P support varies...
#MOedchat
Dr_TParker
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2
#MOedchat
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Yes. This also gives them a chance to try it outside of the classroom setting. See if they can do it without Ts presence.
#moedchat
In reply to @TechieTcher
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A2: If purpose for giving HW is to practice skills, give me one good reason we would grade it. Can't think of any? Me neither.
#MOedchat
RunnerGirl13_1
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Completely agree, Chris. Homework is practice of already covered material, no grade.
#MOedchat
In reply to @ChrisQuinn64
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
So do you think HW should be graded?
#moedchat
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: I believe that whatever you're grading, you should make sure you're grading the mastery/content/skill and not the behavior
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2. Agree or Disagree. Students should be graded on homework. Explain.
#MOEdchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A2 what are you grading it on? Completeness or correctness
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
"Check it" does that mean grade goes in the gradebook?
#moedchat
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM EDT
I go through and check it and see that they do it, check for inconsistencies and address them as a class.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
#nonteacher
- Think about how much more time teachers would have if they didn't have to grade HW! Whoa! Worth it!
#moedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
I go back to my answer to Q1, I didn't think about the learning. I just knew I had to do it. Jump through the hoop.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton, @di_chamberlain
classroomtools
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Perhaps, but then we wouldn't have had time to do other things they also loved.
#moedchat
In reply to @wmchamberlain
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
practice! (but don't think I am advocating for practice being done at home ;)
#moedchat
In reply to @e_whalen
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A2: Just learned something & now I'm practicing for maybe the first time on my own. Probably not my best. Don't give a grade.
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A2: A2: No grades, never know who completed the work & how much assistance was given.
#MOedchat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Yes, and no. :)
#MOedchat
In reply to @TechieTcher, @WinkelerD
xdabluesfan
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Not grading homework is unfair to those who don't test well, failing a test doesn't prove a lack of knowledge on a subject
#moedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
sometimes you gotta make the hard choice :)
#moedchat
In reply to @classroomtools
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A2 there are also different levels of what you consider homework
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Q2 Sorry I'm late. I collect almost all HS math hw and grade randomly with personal feedback. They never know what will be graded.
#moedchat
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:21 PM EDT
No. They do not.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
MindySouth
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2 - No grades for practice.
#moedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
@scjohnson2728
join
#MOedchat
!
GeoJo22
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Joanne, a little late, from Lee's Summit, MO
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
That sounds like independent work time when I'm working with small groups of students. Is just my presence making a difference?
#moedchat
In reply to @WinkelerD
cybraryman1
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2 We were required to give HW daily I did not grade it. My HW System
https://t.co/kHGF70faY1
#moedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2. It's like a competition (or the Olympics). The prelims simply help you get to the finals/medal round. That's when it counts.
#moedchat
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Shameless plug...This would be a great discussion for
#edcampscsd
on June 2 in St. Charles!
https://t.co/EIQVTGfAOQ
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
You're the first tweet I read that references grading HW anyway.
#moedchat
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
#nonteacher
- Think about how much more time teachers would have if they didn't have to grade HW! Whoa! Worth it!
#moedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2 if it is watching videos then I support homework
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
You're my favorite. :)
#moedchat
In reply to @mmgreenEDD, @HeFields3
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Most things aren't one-size-fits-all...I have difficulty giving a blanket statement I homework. It really depends on what it is.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
so provide alternative ways to assess Ss that still ensures it's their lrning and not someone else. Ss cheat, look at their phones
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Grading practice isn't a great idea. Only grading tests isn't either. There are other ways for students to 'earn' grades.
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3. How can homework be modernized to support what we know works in education today? (Hint: Doesn't include boring worksheets).
#MOedchat
scjohnson2728
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Shannon - Florissant, 4th grade student teacher.
@michelelkelly
is one of my teach teachers.
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Learning and understanding shouldn't have happened?
#moedchat
In reply to @e_whalen, @WinkelerD
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Amen
@conniehamilton
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Ah yes... I dreaded monster.
#moedchat
In reply to @TedHiff
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
And that made all the difference in what you currently advocate for!...but I gotta here more about this vent story. I'm hooked.
#moedchat
In reply to @IBPBLJill
ChrisQuinn64
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2: Much reference to "practise" in responses about HW...How much "practise" is needed? Do we not allow Ss to practise at school?
#MOedchat
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2 Students shouldn't be graded on homework. You never know what the home situation is.
#MOedchat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
devil's advocate - in our broken system Ss are still motivated by grades. Effort goes down if hw isn't graded.
#MOEdchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2 homework should be graded on taste.
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Going to respectfully push back. How is it "fair" to give a grade on the times you are practicing a skill?
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
shspjones
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 as a parent homework was a source of anxiety I gave much less aftrr I had kids
#MOedchat
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
I don't assign specific homework, if classwork needs to be finished, it can become that. But mostly we do it all in class.
#moedchat
In reply to @mrterborg, @di_chamberlain
mmgreenEDD
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
Ditto!
#moedchat
In reply to @TechieTcher, @HeFields3
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
Intriguing visual on
#homework
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A2: If purpose for giving HW is to practice skills, give me one good reason we would grade it. Can't think of any? Me neither.
#MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
LOL! I’ve never seen this monster before!
#moedchat
In reply to @TedHiff, @conniehamilton
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 Modernize homework by making it real, relevant, authentic learning!
#MOedchat
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 Modernize homework by not assigning any. :)
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3: HW practices & policies should be updated based on research and best practices, just like all other instructional strategies.
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
OMGosh... literally laughing out loud. I LOVE this, Nathan!
@mssackstein
@markbarnes19
@kenoc7
#moedchat
#hacklearning
#Hackinghomework
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2 homework should be graded on taste.
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
scjohnson2728
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A1: As a student I only liked projects. I liked to be creative. I would rush through hw to get outside and play.
#MOedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Wait, you must be specific because we're always in competition you know.
#moedchat
In reply to @mmgreenEDD, @HeFields3
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Or playing a video game
#moedchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
There are lots of good homework assignments we can give: play with your pet, talk to you mom/dad, visit a friend.
#moedchat
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A2 IMHO ultimately grades should reflect knowledge (in math). HW grades can be dropped if they affect GPA but provide a history.
#moedchat
ChrisQuinn64
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3: Why not consider doing away with it completely? Too radical an idea? Too "modernized"?
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3. How can homework be modernized to support what we know works in education today? (Hint: Doesn't include boring worksheets).
#MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3 watch videos, create representations of knowledge
#MOedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A2: Agree, students are not going to do HW if it isn't graded, unless it will be assessed on an exam.
#moedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
I'm trying to provide practice opps in class. Many Ss don't have help at home increasing the gap between have and have not.
#moedchat
In reply to @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Yep... key word: "broken system" if kids focus on grades and not learning.
#moedchat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
devil's advocate - in our broken system Ss are still motivated by grades. Effort goes down if hw isn't graded.
#MOEdchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
GeoJo22
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A2 If hw is practice, no. Sometimes life gets in the way and assessments/projects are completed outside class.
#moedchat
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Are Ss really motivated by grades? Just saw a study that said grades only motivate the higher achieving students.
#moedchat
In reply to @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
We put it in our book
#hackinghomework
we loved it so much.
#moedchat
In reply to @debbiefuco, @TedHiff
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
That seems to me a case against grading TESTS more than for/against grading HW. Yes?
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @xdabluesfan
scjohnson2728
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A2: grading homework doesn't seem beneficial especially if the students don't have the support at home.
#MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
If they will write about the game they played
#MOedchat
In reply to @michelelkelly, @MOedchat
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
I give 5-10 problems w/20-30 min of class time to work, so they can get help. It only becomes HW if Ss don't use time wisely.
#moedchat
In reply to @i3algebra, @mrterborg
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Many HS Jrs fail math bc not having hw graded created disincentive to master thru practice.
#MOEdchat
In reply to @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Remember b/c of HW or because what your teacher said in class?
#moedchat
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
One thing I do remember from 12th grade english:
#addresstheprompt
Hammered into my brain like a nine-inch-nail.
In reply to @conniehamilton
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:26 PM EDT
I've been teaching a long time & Ss who "don't test well" many times are simply not prepared. There are some special circumstances
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
For some of my Ss, yes. Many won't attempt it if I am not there. Or they will use me as a crutch to get answers
#moedchat
In reply to @TechieTcher
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
@MCrowley522
They're doing another one!
#edcamp
#moedchat
@mrsdonaldsonm
@halliesmills
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Shameless plug...This would be a great discussion for
#edcampscsd
on June 2 in St. Charles!
https://t.co/EIQVTGfAOQ
#moedchat
janet_braud
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3: make it real. I've had kids find grammar fails in public or in print - take a pic and share it.
#moedchat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
They should, but practice at home can help too.
#MOEdchat
In reply to @TechieTcher, @WinkelerD
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
That's not what I see in HS math.
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3: I ask HW questions that are not a regurgitation of the lecture or book. Students have to apply knowledge to new application
#MOedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
The reality is we can find out what a kid has learned by a short conversation. Grades are for admins and parents.
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A2 Would love to see Ss complete research on what interests them to help them create solutions to problems they want to solve!
#moedchat
ShannonSteimel
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
#moedchat
#homework
stories like this go viral: ‘Eat dinner as a family, play outside’
https://t.co/MAQfNsXpSC
via
@eagnews
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
You're so right, Mandi. HW actually puts students in poverty at a disadvantage, yet we do it anyway.
#moedchat
In reply to @TTmomTT, @e_whalen
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A3: We can use technology to engage students in learning without it feeling like traditional boring homework.
#MOedchat
MindySouth
Apr 13 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A3 - Short videos to help reinforce or intro a lesson. HW that asks Ss to find real world examples outside of school & document.
#moedchat
mmgreenEDD
Apr 13 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A3: Creating hw that addresses the 21st Century learner is a start..
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3. How can homework be modernized to support what we know works in education today? (Hint: Doesn't include boring worksheets).
#MOedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:28 PM EDT
I allow Ss to pract with me & reassess as needed. I will also assess by verbally asking questions. Many ways to see what Ss know.
#MOedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A1: In college HW was necessary for success. 50 min of lecture was the bare minimum of learning.
#moedchat
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:28 PM EDT
TBH I tested well then felt guilty for testing well. What's worse: In what way do tests simulate reality of "the real world"?
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan, @MsLaurenMertz
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A3: When Ss decide the homework bc they want to 1.learn more
https://t.co/gcHY4xvoEG
a deadline on a project
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3. How can homework be modernized to support what we know works in education today? (Hint: Doesn't include boring worksheets).
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I would push that "higher achieving Ss" aren't motivated by grades, they just understand the game to play to get to college/life.
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen
scjohnson2728
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
Q3: proivde students ideas of how they can incorporate what they are learning in class to everyday life. Then allow for sharing.
#MOedchat
RunnerGirl13_1
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I think you nailed it, Karen.
#MOedchat
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 Modernize homework by not assigning any. :)
#MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
True dat
#moedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:27 PM EDT
The reality is we can find out what a kid has learned by a short conversation. Grades are for admins and parents.
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
This is definitely from the art of repetition in the classroom.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
Agree. I use Khan Academy. My Ss learn to read non-fict hints & pause/rewind to learn from video. It also improves their accuracy
#MOedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
If they're expected to "practice" before they're independent, then we're doing HW wrong anyway.
#moedchat
In reply to @LaneWalker2, @e_whalen
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I bet you give them a lot of additional feedback. The feedback is motivational for Ss.
#moedchat
In reply to @LaneWalker2, @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Again, I'm playing devil's advocate. Most of us in this chat agree. Helps to consider other viewpoints.
#MOEdchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz
lizzy_malloy
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A3: use tech, real life application
#moedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
The most dangerous words...
#moedchat
stephensonmused
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Hi! David, music educator/aspiring district leader from SC, jumping in a bit late.
#MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Parents are motivated by grades. Students are destroyed by grades
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton, @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A3: If lessons in school are engaging enough, Ss will want to seek out further learning on their own.
#MOedchat
classroomtools
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
This is the sort of thing we did in class.
https://t.co/JcsA3wMV6I
#moedchat
In reply to @wmchamberlain
GeoJo22
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A3 Choice.
#moedchat
KBaumgartner75
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
How do we change definition of success for Ss & move it away from grades? Success in adult life does not carry a grade.
#moedchat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
devil's advocate - in our broken system Ss are still motivated by grades. Effort goes down if hw isn't graded.
#MOEdchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
There are plenty of kids motivated by grades (prolly not as many kids as parents though ;)
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
I think Ss are more motivated by parents who are unhappy w/grades than the grades themselves.
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A3. When student voice and choice share the classroom stage.
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
I wish I had a quote trophy. I'd give it to
@nathan_stevens
#moedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Parents are motivated by grades. Students are destroyed by grades
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton, @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen
ChristoAveryD
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A3) If homework isn't engaging, it ain't workin'. Use Google, Twitter, Fb..Something that makes homework a conversation!
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Love this & immediately sharing! Thanks,
@conniehamilton
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A2: If purpose for giving HW is to practice skills, give me one good reason we would grade it. Can't think of any? Me neither.
#MOedchat
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A3: Some Ss are doing supplemental work for their projects outside of school. Different for each S, self-selected, not required
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3. How can homework be modernized to support what we know works in education today? (Hint: Doesn't include boring worksheets).
#MOedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
the thing is, I have had parents who were lousy students that don't give their kids any slack. I am old enough to remember.
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
My students get 4 to 5 questions for HW. Lecture is not enough. Plus we don't have the same amount of time as K-12 classes.
#moedchat
In reply to @MayTheCourseBWU
SaltsWorldwide
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
@
#moedchat
Thanks for following! Catch us on Instagram @
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tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
So true Ted!
#moedchat
#timetothinkdifferently
In reply to @TedHiff
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q4. Provide an example of when student have been inspired to extend learning outside the classroom without it being assigned.
#MOedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Yes!!!
@GeoJo22
#moedchat
GeoJo22
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A3 Choice.
#moedchat
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q3: Neo-homework should be about encouraging curiosity and problem-solving! Divergent thinking!
#moedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:32 PM EDT
I will the internet almost every night
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:32 PM EDT
I get it.
#moedchat
In reply to @e_whalen
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4 Introduced vector drawing using Google Drawing & students worked on them at home & proudly shared them with me.
#moedchat
#inspired
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:33 PM EDT
as I said, you can figure that out with a conversation. Besides, a good grade mostly means the kids can play the ed game.
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4: I allow Ss to reassess if they didn't show prof on a standard. Ss will ask for additional practice (no points) to get better.
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Of course... not only that, think about the time Ts spend hunting down HW or babysitting kids at lunch/after school for missed HW.
#moedchat
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
@conniehamilton
Excited about TIME Ts might have for work/life balance or to put toward better ends w/o HW. You address this in your book?
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A3: Sometimes the Ss come up with really amazing ideas for projects about what we're learning in class. Let them run with them!
#MOedchat
KBaumgartner75
Apr 13 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A3 Allow Ss more choice in how they demonstrate understanding. Perhaps creating a blog to pose and answer questions.
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: After watching a TV show, my daughter was inspired to learn sign language. Eventually took it for world language credit.
#MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4 Ss worked on coding at home & shared their games with the class. Spent hours perfecting their projects.
#moedchat
#hourofcode
ChristoAveryD
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
Sry y'all.. Chris, late to the party, but excited to be here!! Blessed member of SPS, MO.
#moedchat
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
When Qs come up during instruction, I challenge them to find the answer by the next day. Some come straight to my room w/answer.
#MOedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q4. Provide an example of when student have been inspired to extend learning outside the classroom without it being assigned.
#MOedchat
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4 Many times I've had students create & share slideshows on their own about topics that interest them.
#MOedchat
scjohnson2728
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: students came to me and wanted to present a google slide presentation to the class on their cultures holiday.
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
So we give students a grade for HW because some are motivated to do it? Even if we know it's not accurate data?
#moedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:31 PM EDT
There are plenty of kids motivated by grades (prolly not as many kids as parents though ;)
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
Don't forget about the transcripts! 😉
#moedchat
In reply to @wmchamberlain
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4 My son was inspired in kdg to research the presidents based on a math lesson on coins! He is now a history buff at age 13!
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
"Can I work on my
@scratch
#videogame
over the weekend so it's ready for
#STEAM
night?" YES!
#MOedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4. Following
#BreakoutEdu
lessons students have gone on to further study the concepts from the lessson.
#moedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
a4) Every Pokemon conversation ever....
#moedchat
#antherehavebeenwaaaaaytoomany
Dr_TParker
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4 When they have been exposed to a real world pblm (local/global) & they're asking What can I do to help?
#MOedchat
jleeTechPercent
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A2- in my elementary mind, homework shouldn't be given at all, so if it IS given, then it definitely shouldn't be graded!
#moedchat
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Plus they only get homework once a week. I think the biggest issue is frequency. Everyday is overkill
#moedchat
In reply to @MayTheCourseBWU
stephensonmused
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A3: If the HW can't be done quickly & digitally, Ss won't do it. Use programs like
@RemindHQ
to deliver via text.
#MOedchat
ChristoAveryD
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
I love it!
#moedchat
In reply to @michelelkelly
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4:
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
"Can I work on my
@scratch
#videogame
over the weekend so it's ready for
#STEAM
night?" YES!
#MOedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4) You learn more about the kids by talking about what they really enjoy learning than what you assign them anyway.
#moedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Grades = extrinsic motivation. We need Ss & citizens to WANT to learn.
@DanielPink
remids us in Drive that extrensic doesn't work.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton, @DanielPink
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4 I worked with
@BevLadd
's class and they were building with cardboard 2 hours after school
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat, @BevLadd
jleeTechPercent
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Good evening
#moedchat
jumping in briefly as we stop for gas driving across MO!
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
If it's not HW, there is still some kind of practice. Either way it has to be graded, so how does that save time?
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
EduGladiators
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
🙋🏻Need an
#EduGladiators
fix on break? Join LIVE w/
@KealakeheInter
@mathieu_w
🖥
https://t.co/Yu9T5LN4yg
#MOedchat
#ditchbook
#teachnvchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: It doesn't take much effort to find learning opportunities in pretty much anything.
#MOedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: Showed my Ss how to make
@BookSnapsREAL
with Google drawings and most are making them at home
#MOedchat
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
Ha Ha! Good to see you!
#moedchat
In reply to @jleeTechPercent
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
If the task is in the ZPD, it's premature to give it as homework. Practice makes permanent and if they practice wrong....
#moedchat
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:34 PM EDT
How are we defining independent here? I have some HS seniors who are not yet independent. Pls clarify
In reply to @conniehamilton, @e_whalen
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
One of my least favorite things to do.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
Accurate data in reference to learning is an oxymoron. You can't measure what you can see. Learning can't be seen.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
hackmylearning
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4: I love it when a student finds an author or genre and can't get enough of it. Reads even w/o a reading log requirement
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
That's a joke, right?
#moedchat
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
They especially like getting 11/10 for extra effort shown.
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @e_whalen, @conniehamilton
GeoJo22
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
We can't be afraid to change the model just because we've always done it that way.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
also, I don't advocate for any homework. Heck, I don't even advocate for grades :)
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
MindySouth
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4 - Genius Hour w/
@faithagann
LMS. A 6th grade S went to city meeting to inquire about getting a stoplight added in town!
#moedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4 this should explain everything
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4: We're studying Greek mythology & my Ss wanted to research Roman and Egyptian mythology as well to compare & contrast
#MOedchat
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4 My Ss sometimes develop an interest in coding after we make a math connection with
https://t.co/RiAQeSnSdd
Also Desmos art
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
This is what it's all about! When we let go control & let them decide, the most amazing things happen. May be hard, but worth it.
#moedchat
In reply to @michelelkelly
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Doesn't have to be graded. I disagree. But that's OK if we don't see it the same.
#moedchat
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:35 PM EDT
If it's not HW, there is still some kind of practice. Either way it has to be graded, so how does that save time?
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
RunnerGirl13_1
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Really good blog, Lane. Relevance, purpose, and interest seem to be key ingredients. Can you start tagging me in new posts?
#MOedchat
In reply to @LaneWalker2
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
I always ask my Ss who have recieved EC. You know 25% more of the subject that taught. Wow!
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Done!
#moedchat
In reply to @tnalau, @MCrowley522, @mrsdonaldsonm, @halliesmills
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Also my Ss are doing a lot of coding at home!
#MOedchat
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
I teach at the college level and there's no extra time for in-class assignments. My students struggle with time management
#moedchat
In reply to @MayTheCourseBWU
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A4: We read a book about duct tape & a S went home and learned how to make crafts with it. Came back with one for everyone to keep
#moedchat
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
I am not sure I agree w/the HW needs to be digital part. Sometimes paper and pencil are the best tools for the job.
#moedchat
In reply to @stephensonmused, @RemindHQ
msmorrislearns
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A4: I think my biggest correlation for this happening is that students feel knowledgeable on HOW to gain more info at home.
#moedchat
e_whalen
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Gotta head out. Great topic. Complex issue that is interdependent w so many school practices
#hardtochangeentiresystem
#onsameteam
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
Unfortunately, some Ts who need to be in on important conversations like this are not here. So many thoughtful responses!
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:29 PM EDT
If they're expected to "practice" before they're independent, then we're doing HW wrong anyway.
#moedchat
In reply to @LaneWalker2, @e_whalen
stephensonmused
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A4: A student composed music on her own, outside of Music Composition class.
#MOedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A4. Our Student Digital Showcase - Students extending their learning and sharing w/our
@News4FHMS
community.
#moedchat
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
Yes! My son got hooked on The Magic Treehouse thanks to his amazing 1st grade teacher
@candicesettlem1
#moedchat
In reply to @hackmylearning, @candicesettlem1
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
Ok, not "graded", but feedback needs to be given.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
Still joking, right? You don't really give extra credit for "effort" do you?
#moedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
I always ask my Ss who have recieved EC. You know 25% more of the subject that taught. Wow!
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A4 when you meet a Storm trooper, who needs homework
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
ChristoAveryD
Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM EDT
The end of one class is just the beginning of the next. If learning is continual... it becomes the culture.
#moedchat
In reply to @di_chamberlain
ShannonSteimel
Apr 13 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A4
#moedchat
8-year-old learns to drive on YouTube, heads to McDonald's
https://t.co/Q2QVMoQLo1
via
@USATODAY
https://t.co/VcnHR4oWnL
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q4. Provide an example of when student have been inspired to extend learning outside the classroom without it being assigned.
#MOedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Feedback is the key word. Giving a grade stops the learning. Feedback encourages improvement.
#MOedchat
In reply to @di_chamberlain, @conniehamilton
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:40 PM EDT
But habit doesn't measure learning. Do you mix them?
#moedchat
LaneWalker2
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
I really don't like assigning a number to a S. But with math it is extremely imp to have a record of habit and progress.
In reply to @wmchamberlain, @conniehamilton
MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Super! Invite your friends.
#EdcampSCSD
#Moedchat
In reply to @TechieTcher, @tnalau, @MCrowley522, @mrsdonaldsonm, @halliesmills
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Bravo
@michelelkelly
#moedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Also my Ss are doing a lot of coding at home!
#MOedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:40 PM EDT
We need to rethink skills based learning (like computation).Plus a lot of that will be taken over with prescription based learning
#moedchat
In reply to @LaneWalker2, @conniehamilton
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Mazes, two player fighting (Union vs Confederate), platformers, telling stories about different events in history.
#moedchat
#theiridea
In reply to @owenpeery, @scratch
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5. If a teacher gives homework and a student doesn't do it, what should the teacher do?
#MOedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Computers are great for that kind of thing and they print out really pretty progress reports ;)
#moedchat
In reply to @LaneWalker2, @conniehamilton
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Please add
#snarkchat
to the tweet
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
A3: by having Ss complete real world example projects.
#moedchat
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Echoes of John Dewey...
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: It doesn't take much effort to find learning opportunities in pretty much anything.
#MOedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Or play doh... 😂
#moedchat
In reply to @di_chamberlain, @stephensonmused, @RemindHQ
GeoJo22
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
A4 Not often. Sadly I hear, "Will you give me EC if...
#moedchat
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Proficiency does not equal e.c. for Kleenex boxes! Unfortunately sometimes that's the homework assigned.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
No! EC given from other classes. My Ss know in my class their grade with represent their knowledge not "doing stuff" or seat time.
#MOedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Here's Q5 again for
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5. If a teacher gives homework and a student doesn't do it, what should the teacher do?
#MOedchat
ShannonSteimel
Apr 13 @ 10:42 PM EDT
A3
#geniushour
passion projects independent reading
#stuchoice
#moedchat
https://t.co/j4sWCQbkxL
https://t.co/j4sWCQbkxL
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3. How can homework be modernized to support what we know works in education today? (Hint: Doesn't include boring worksheets).
#MOedchat
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:42 PM EDT
A3: I like case studies and other assignments where students have a choice in directing their learning
#MOedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:42 PM EDT
It's a blast isn't it? Love when this happens.
#moedchat
In reply to @debbiefuco
WinkelerD
Apr 13 @ 10:42 PM EDT
A4: I do a career exploration project and many Ss go beyond the project and investigate the job even more.
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Giving homework doesn't "teach" responsibility, it expects it. That's much different.
#moedchat
bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:42 PM EDT
I mean, I guess HW is much more like the "real world" than cumulative tests. amiright?
#moedchat
In reply to @xdabluesfan, @MsLaurenMertz
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5: Let's stop assuming students don't know info or are simply lazy b/c they didn't do HW. Look at reasons & decide how to react.
#MOedchat
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5 Probably just stop giving homework. You know what they say about the definition of insanity...
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5. If a teacher gives homework and a student doesn't do it, what should the teacher do?
#MOedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5:If the "homework" is practice then provide them more opportunities to practice. Did they not understand, get home late, sick...
#MOedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5: Stop giving it.
#MOedchat
msmorrislearns
Apr 13 @ 10:43 PM EDT
Q5: In third grade, I just keep reteaching and have the student practice doing the hmwk while others do something more preferred.
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Awesome idea! What grade did you use this with?
#moedchat
#booksnaps
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: Showed my Ss how to make
@BookSnapsREAL
with Google drawings and most are making them at home
#MOedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
When they're finished we could let them play one another's games. What platform/program are they making them on?
#moedchat
In reply to @owenpeery, @scratch
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Ohhh...I can't wait to see the answers to this one!
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5. If a teacher gives homework and a student doesn't do it, what should the teacher do?
#MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5 this is about right
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
Kidsmathtalk
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
I stopped giving homework this year and am loving it. Parents are too.
#MOedchat
shspjones
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
I always thought hwk became more prevalent in upper grades whwn Ts has 150 Ss hard to have personal interactions with that many
#moedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
US History today. Students took their learning beyond birth dates of historical figures. They critically analyzed the Civil War.
#moedchat
lizzy_malloy
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A4: coding, tearing through a book they can't put down, jotting notes to point out during lit. discussion
#moedchat
ChristoAveryD
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5) How about asking the student why he/she didn't do it? I'm a firm believer in understanding the roots before climbing the tree
#MOedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
Yes! Who are you talking to? 😉
#moedchat
In reply to @scjohnson2728, @conniehamilton
NathanPerkins5
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A2: Better yet, get rid of homework. Get rid of worksheets.
#limitedreturns
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
Kidsmathtalk
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
I do have spelling lists and expect ss to read and practice math facts at home. But pointless worksheets are no more!
#MOedchat
wmchamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
a5) give them an 'f', talk bad about their deadbeat parents, and make them walk laps during recess!!!
#moedchat
MindySouth
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
Great topic! Have to sign off! Thanks!
#moedchat
mrwilliamsworld
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
@conniehamilton
#Homework
was eliminated from my class. We do everything in class so I can make sure they know what they're doing
#moedchat
ChrisEubanks7
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A5: First ask, "What was the purpose for the HW?" New content shouldn't be given as HW, nor to practice kills not already mastered
#moedchat
phhscience
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
If Ss do not understand the material why give it for homework and if the Ss knows the material why give it for homework
#moedchat
MrNrod
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
Awesome! Though I wonder what that says about reading logs?
#MOedchat
In reply to @hackmylearning
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
4th grade. They are all loving them! Learned from
@TaraMartinEDU
#moedchat
In reply to @debbiefuco, @TaraMartinEDU
nacole99
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A5: If my students do not submit their homework, then they get a zero. They have plenty of time to do it. 1 HW/week, no surprises
#MOedchat
hackmylearning
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5: What message do we send about value of HW when a reward is a "no homework pass". Would we ever give "no teeth brushing" pass?
#MOedchat
i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5: I take the opportunity to have a convo w/ myself about the value, also w/ S to understand. From exp they don't always know why
#moedchat
MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5. If a teacher gives homework and a student doesn't do it, what should the teacher do?
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Hard to let go of the idea that if students comply s/HW they will learn. But go back to the A1s. Few said HW was about learning
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
No, they wrote a narrative story, made a storyboard, found settings, edited characters, coded to make the character move, etc.
#moedchat
In reply to @owenpeery, @scratch
tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5 If you are truly looking for proficiency then not doing homework is a different category separate from grades!
#behaviorskills
#moedchat
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Glad you could make it
@MindySouth
#moedchat
MindySouth
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
Great topic! Have to sign off! Thanks!
#moedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
#moedchat
In reply to @wmchamberlain
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Do they have their own snapchat accounts?
#moedchat
In reply to @michelelkelly, @TaraMartinEDU
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5 ask why. May be family problem or duties that prevent them from doing homework
#MOedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
Dr_TParker
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5 What PURPOSE does it serve for that S? Oh you don't know....let's backtrack and start working on that RELATIONSHIP.
#MOedchat
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Hahahaha! I think I've felt this way a few times...
#moedchat
nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5 this is about right
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Well, that's a whole lot of common sense in under 140 characters right here...
#moedchat
mrwilliamsworld
Apr 13 @ 10:45 PM EDT
@conniehamilton
#Homework
was eliminated from my class. We do everything in class so I can make sure they know what they're doing
#moedchat
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:47 PM EDT
They did this one day just to play around w/it after watching a couple YouTube videos I put in Google Classroom.
#MOedchat
In reply to @owenpeery, @scratch
TedHiff
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:47 PM EDT
T-R-U-E.
@conniehamilton
#moedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Hard to let go of the idea that if students comply s/HW they will learn. But go back to the A1s. Few said HW was about learning
#moedchat
michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Reading logs- 😝!!!
#moedchat
In reply to @MrNrod, @hackmylearning
Just_laugh320
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
A2 I believe it should be checked, but not graded. Homework should be used to check students understanding.
#moedchat
#EDUc8_24_7
In reply to @MOedchat
TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Agree. 1-20 is silly if you already know it and silly if you don't know how to do it.
#moedchat
In reply to @conniehamilton
TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
I like this way too, gets them thinking differently.
#MOedchat
In reply to @owenpeery, @scratch
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Hilarious!
#moedchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
Kidsmathtalk
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Love the connection of brushing teeth.
#moedchat
hackmylearning
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5: What message do we send about value of HW when a reward is a "no homework pass". Would we ever give "no teeth brushing" pass?
#MOedchat
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Full disclosure: I've done a total 180 regarding homework in recent years.
#MOedchat
conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
I bet they were assigned HW. Simply expecting kids to do HW doesn't "TEACH" them good study habits.
#moedchat
jwalkup
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Those who fail my classes are usually those that simply never picked up good study habits. If you've never had to do it before...
In reply to @LaneWalker2, @wmchamberlain, @conniehamilton
phhscience
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
If Ss do not understand the material why give it for homework and if the Ss knows the material why give it for homework
#moedchat
di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
What do you do about the Ss who will sit there w/o a pencil for 20 min, or just won't work the whole time?
#moedchat
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TedHiff
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Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Yes... relationships first.
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Dr_TParker
Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5 What PURPOSE does it serve for that S? Oh you don't know....let's backtrack and start working on that RELATIONSHIP.
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mrwilliamsworld
Apr 13 @ 10:49 PM EDT
😊 It ain't easy, but it actually saves time and promotes learning and understanding. Ss do more and score better on EOC's.
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:49 PM EDT
"Silly" isn't the word I would use, but I'll go with it, Mandi. :)
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Agree. 1-20 is silly if you already know it and silly if you don't know how to do it.
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michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:49 PM EDT
No. That's why we use Google drawings to make them. They can make the same thing!
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 13 @ 10:49 PM EDT
I would still give he with idea that it will be used to begin the next days lesson. But to make sure it's right level for each ss
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MOedchat
Apr 13 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Q6. What criteria do you use for each lesson to determine if you shoudl give homework or not?
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i3algebra
Apr 13 @ 10:50 PM EDT
^^^that is what I get for trying to twitter chat from my phone!
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:50 PM EDT
They are the devil! (Math T talking...just kidding of course!)
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:50 PM EDT
I'm guessing assigning it as HW isn't the answer...
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:48 PM EDT
What do you do about the Ss who will sit there w/o a pencil for 20 min, or just won't work the whole time?
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:50 PM EDT
I'll check w/them and send them Monday evening, join our exhibition virtually Tuesday!
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debbiefuco
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Apr 13 @ 10:51 PM EDT
I’d love to learn more about this. Do you have an example to share?
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Give them a pencil & help. If they still won't work, reach out to Ps, As, counselors. Sometimes it's an outside force.
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Very cool!!
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jleeTechPercent
Apr 13 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A4- the Student innovation SHOWcase at
#METC17
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:52 PM EDT
A6: My philosophy on HW is no different than class instruction. Is it relevant? Is it engaging? Is it the best use of this time?
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Tangent Q: If no HW in high school, what are kids going to do in college when suddenly HW is the norm? Curious to hear thoughts
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tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Same here! LOL! I knew what plainsong meant!
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nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Please don't insult silly with association to homework
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:52 PM EDT
A6: I provide practice opportunities for all lessons and tell Ss to do as much as needed. HS Ss need to learn self monitoring.
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ChrisEubanks7
Apr 13 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Having a No HW Policy is just as silly as having a HW Every Night policy. It is what you are doing with it.
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nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
A6 how student are applying knowledge to understanding
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mrwilliamsworld
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
I try to encourage them to do the work. Otherwise, it's a call home. Not fun, but Ps helping me out makes life easier.
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ChristoAveryD
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
sitting without a pencil is not about refusal. Give a kid a pencil. Learning is learned.
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
Monday night it starts at 6pm cst, but Tuesday from 10-2cst they'll be exhibitng during the day.
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MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
A6 Do you want the student to be excited about the lesson and continue learning? If yes, skip the homework.
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nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
We should assign students eat a good supper and go to bed early as homework.
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:54 PM EDT
True-but when Ss know they can take it as HW, they just say, I'll do it tonight instead of working now. It's their choice to make.
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ChrisEubanks7
Apr 13 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Mariano research identified Homework and Practice as a High-Yield Strategy. Key is doing it correctly.
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 13 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Is "silly" a key word tonight? Coming late to the chat and I am seeing it used quite a bit
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:55 PM EDT
College students are also not in the presence of a teacher for 35 hours a week.
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mrwilliamsworld
Apr 13 @ 10:55 PM EDT
I have bins with all necessary supplies, so it's usually about defiance. That's why I get Ps involved. Refusal is NOT an option.
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michelelkelly
Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
A6: Not really criteria, but if they have a lot of questions, I tell them to find the answers!
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debbiefuco
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Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Been in a few teachers’ lounges, huh?
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
When used as an integral part of the next days/weeks lessons then yes it is. Not just a check off # for correct sake exercise
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Many college courses have optional HW. Most classes are based on 3-4 test scores. We don't prepare them for that with HW points
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
I think there might be more research around success in school on food and sleep than there is around positive effects of HW.
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nathan_stevens
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
We should assign students eat a good supper and go to bed early as homework.
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Yes! Each class/situation/student is different. Never say never and never say always.
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ChrisEubanks7
Apr 13 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Having a No HW Policy is just as silly as having a HW Every Night policy. It is what you are doing with it.
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LauraGilchrist4
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Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Hello
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Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
AMEN!!!
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MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:53 PM EDT
A6 Do you want the student to be excited about the lesson and continue learning? If yes, skip the homework.
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
That's awesome. If they want to Tweet w/my Ss they're
@room221mason
. That might really blow their minds if your kids played them.
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tnalau
Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
When you teach only one night a week homework is a necessity and email communication with students is key!
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MsLaurenMertz
Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
True. More info at
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
That's because the people in
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 13 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Is "silly" a key word tonight? Coming late to the chat and I am seeing it used quite a bit
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
HW doesn't necessarily = the end of learning. It depends on the assignment.
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TedHiff
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Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
Kudos to
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tonight!
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GeoJo22
Apr 13 @ 10:57 PM EDT
A5 We have a behavioral consequence, w/no grade pnlty. Certain Ss become freq flyers. Dsn't change behavior, just chance to do it.
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Apr 13 @ 10:58 PM EDT
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Yeah i guess when I think back to my college it was 3-4 test scores and (b/c of my major) LOTS of writing.
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amiya_rbehera
Apr 13 @ 10:58 PM EDT
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Most relevant and important HW I think is retrieval practice. But how to make it engaging so that they do is the question.
MsMensing
Apr 13 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Homework also doesn't necessarily = continued learning.
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
"practice" doesn't mean independent at home in his research. Effect size for HW from
@john_hattie
is .21
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ChrisEubanks7
Apr 13 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Mariano research identified Homework and Practice as a High-Yield Strategy. Key is doing it correctly.
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Such a good point
@TTmomTT
about the connection to higher ed. Hw doesn't prepare you for college work.
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Many college courses have optional HW. Most classes are based on 3-4 test scores. We don't prepare them for that with HW points
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bo_nathaniel
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
In fact, I also remember freaking out in a few classes: Wait, if I do poorly on tests I don't have HW to prop up my grade with!?
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
I'm just glad "authentic" wasn't the buzz word tonight!
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TTmomTT
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Imagine in we had a spot on the HS transcript that said "meets deadlines" not proficient. It would mean more than docking grades.
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ChristoAveryD
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
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TechieTcher
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Now this statement I can get behind.
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conniehamilton
Apr 13 @ 10:59 PM EDT
What's the point in giving them a choice in this case?
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di_chamberlain
Apr 13 @ 10:54 PM EDT
True-but when Ss know they can take it as HW, they just say, I'll do it tonight instead of working now. It's their choice to make.
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