#SwDMathChat Archive
Thursday May 11, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
participatechat
May 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#SwDMathChat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/2gl5JhlFuX
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome to
#SwDMathChat
. My name is Jen McAleer. I work in MA as a middle school math head and teacher of Ss with LBLD
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Andrew. I teach math at a HS for SwD in NYC.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Welcome to
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Tonight's topic: The balancing act, which math matters? Introduction time: Name, region, and what you teach please!
anndurham13
May 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Ann, HS Learning Support and Math teacher in Jakarta, Indonesia
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bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
What's LBLD?
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi Ann! I should know this by now, but what time is it in Indonesia?
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In reply to @anndurham13
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Annie from
@themathforum
, double-dipping with
#ElemMathChat
and
#SwDMathChat
tonight. Hi, everyone!
aboone_angie
May 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Angie Boone middle school sped department in small town Kansas
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
welcome Annie!
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In reply to @MFAnnie, @themathforum
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
language based learning disabilities (I.e. Dyslexia) thanks for asking. 140 characters limits me :)
In reply to @bkdidact
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Oh, and I work as a sometimes math coach-type person, K-HS, including inclusion settings.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
hi Megan! Glad you made it!
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In reply to @meglporter35
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Here is question 1...what math are we as teachers asked to teach?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Annie! Thanks for joining in!
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In reply to @MFAnnie, @themathforum
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome!
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In reply to @aboone_angie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi Ann! Hope it's not too late/early!
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In reply to @anndurham13
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi Angie! We have a strong A-name contingent tonight!
@MFAnnie
@anndurham13
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In reply to @aboone_angie, @MFAnnie, @anndurham13
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Lori from Missouri, elem math interventionist
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anndurham13
May 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
8:00am on Friday...sunny and humid! :)
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In reply to @bkdidact
LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Stacie Alison Gage Elementary Rochester Mn Library Media Specialist.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Better than here in MA! 49 and cloudy all week!
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In reply to @anndurham13, @bkdidact
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Well, I'm home on a Thursday night for once, so wouldn't miss it.
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In reply to @bkdidact, @themathforum
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome!
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Stacie! I'm excited to learn about Library Media Specialist-ness!
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Question 1 is a tough one: I'm asked to teach state standards, keeping kids "on grade level" and teach procedural fluency
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bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Lori! Thanks for joining in!
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
I am heavily involved in our math program. I'm on dist. articulation committee and am fascinated by the innovation in math ed
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In reply to @bkdidact
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Our school's main focus is incorporating adaptive (or life) skills into all subjects, so skills are linked with purpose.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Here is question 1...what math are we as teachers asked to teach?
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MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 My role is to help "fill in gaps" but gen ed Ts often want me to reteach what they're doing in their class. Not enough time
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bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Me too! 😜
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul
massignmenthelp
May 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#aphgchat
#christianeducators
#ElemMathChat
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Top 5 Concerns Students Have While Writing Assignments
https://t.co/QNgbrlLwjX
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
that sounds awesome and meaningful if done right!
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In reply to @bkdidact
aboone_angie
May 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: depends on the S, some I teach life skills math others I teach grade level curriculum at a slower pace
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
aaahhh yes we get that sometimes. More does not always help retention
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Question 2 on the horizon... :)
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bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Interesting, do you mostly push-in or pull out?
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
tell me more about that! Is it more of the same curriculum, but slowed?
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In reply to @aboone_angie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Question 2. A struggle for many teachers of Ss with disabilities
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bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Yes, it's mostly good and we never get the "why are we learning this?" questions!
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT
because they need/want to! Always important (if not more important) for SwD to see a context/purpose
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In reply to @bkdidact
anndurham13
May 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT
I'm at school, so hoping I can sneak a few tweets before my next class!
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1-we teach our standard & test content. Now adding number talks, flexible thinking, & exploring depth not quantity
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Question 1 is a tough one: I'm asked to teach state standards, keeping kids "on grade level" and teach procedural fluency
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Depth is very important for our Ss... also using number talks to meet them where they are and value their strategies
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: And how do we convince ourselves/others that the problem solving can contribute to skill work?
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT
THis is a GREAT point, Annie. We argue about this in our dept meeting frequently. I firmly believe it does, but until the Ts+
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In reply to @MFAnnie
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Especially because of working on the
@openupresources
@IllustrateMath
curriculum, I think these things should be embedded.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Question 2. A struggle for many teachers of Ss with disabilities
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
+ the use of it and the conversations, it's hard to convince them. I keep modeling and inviting them to my class.
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In reply to @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@openupresources
and
@IllustrateMath
have changed my "there is no curriculum for my Ss" to ...there is a solid bank of content
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In reply to @bkdidact, @openupresources, @IllustrateMath, @openupresources, @IllustrateMath
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Cool. Have you read this?
https://t.co/2IMbkjfYCl
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
HeatherSugrue
May 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Hi -sorry to be late. HS math teacher in MA.
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MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Where does engagement fall in there? And convincing Ss that they have ideas, despite maybe being told differently for yrs?
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
aboone_angie
May 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: I have Ss who have great problem solving skills, but lack proficiency in the skill work
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MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I love using open middle problems to dem how much computation goes into a more complex problem
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In reply to @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Oh, so true. Many Ss (esp SwD) feel they have no seat at the math table bc they are inefficient. We need to invite them!
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In reply to @MFAnnie
AssignmentHelpN
May 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#aphgchat
#byotchat
#edtherapy
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The Ultimate Compilation of 60 Ways To Use an iPad in the Classroom
https://t.co/Du9eR0MYRB
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Question 3... on the way!
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jennalaib
May 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Oops, forgot to tag
#SwDmathchat
;)
In reply to @MFAnnie
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
How do you help them organize their thinking so that they can identify "calculations" that give them trouble while doing PS?
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In reply to @aboone_angie
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Wait until July!
https://t.co/9C2R2GVm7b
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @openupresources, @IllustrateMath
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
and perseverance of Ss!
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach, @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I'm trying to be so patient. I'm secretly not! :)
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In reply to @bkdidact, @openupresources, @IllustrateMath
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:21 PM EDT
..and we need to show those Ss they still have a math mind! AND CAN DO MATH!
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In reply to @aboone_angie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Question 3. Let's have a debate here!
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MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Gosh...it's like you helped me write the script for my most recent ignite at
#NCSM17
:-)
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 Good prob solving allow multiple access points for Ss to apply/practice skills & encourage S to search for efficient methods
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HeatherSugrue
May 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: I'm not sure what this question means... what is non-applicable math?
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:23 PM EDT
I was there. Maybe I'm influenced a bit! ..that and it fit perfectly into my belief of teaching! I told my dept all about it!
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In reply to @MFAnnie
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Do you think that is cuz they have limited view of what constitutes "math"? Or fault of standards? Or...?
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In reply to @jennalaib
jennalaib
May 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Unsure. It's certainly the easier to quantify, and this demonstrate measurable progress!
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In reply to @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
and building efficient methods from where the Ss are... and where they can be most efficient. not all Ss do math the same.
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: Abstract problem solving and communicating mathematically are applicable in their own right.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Question 3. Let's have a debate here!
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mrshainesmath
May 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
What makes something not applicable.
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennalaib
May 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I've been working with some of them to write goals, and I see shifts. Now looking at concepts & making sense of problems.
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In reply to @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Agreed! and just as meaningful/engaging to students
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In reply to @bkdidact
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Soooooooo true!
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In reply to @jennalaib, @MFAnnie
HeatherSugrue
May 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: I agree - and you need to gain facility with the abstraction to access more cool math.
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In reply to @bkdidact
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Great question. I'm interested in what people deem "not applicable" I think many ppl might have diff opinions
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In reply to @mrshainesmath
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yea, harder to judge a S saying, "Let me tell you everything I know about this problem." But maybe more valuable/useful.
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In reply to @jennalaib
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I posted it to spark controversy :)
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In reply to @mrshainesmath
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Especially students who have not ever been exposed to "new ways" to memorize facts!
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
anndurham13
May 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 All forms of math have value when used intentionally and for the right purpose
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I love the subitizing math fact fluency cards. They have been a game changer for my kids.
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In reply to @bkdidact
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
I don't Ignite about "new". I just try to do 5 minutes about things many of us care about. Did you share video with dept?
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
That meant to say, "who have *only* ever been exposed to..."
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennalaib
May 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
So true, even with the 5 of 6 typos featured there? :) Trying to following 2 chats at once makes me wish for an edit feature!
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In reply to @bkdidact, @MFAnnie
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Catch my typo correction?
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In reply to @jennalaib, @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I don't believe the video was up yet :( I will on the conference on email though!
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In reply to @MFAnnie
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Yes! There is beauty in a low floor-high ceiling problem so all Ss have access and feel worthy
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Question 4... on it's way! Let's talk about the "real-world" problems. Is it an overused phrase?
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I love the phrase "All Ss must have a seat at the mathematical table"
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Question 4: What's it look like in your class?
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jennalaib
May 11 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Right, I'm not sure I know how to define "non applicable" because it's possible to connect math ideas to more ideas! Applying?
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @mrshainesmath
HeatherSugrue
May 11 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I don't like it. I generated a few scenarios this yr that made me wonder and want to know more, then had the Ss do the same.
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 Takes a lot of perseverance to work through patterns, problems and puzzles. Ss math confidence grows & expands def of math
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I 100% agree. Many of my Ts struggle to answer the "Why are we learning this?" Q.
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In reply to @jennalaib, @mrshainesmath
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Nice. I like having Ss show/tell calculations/final steps, knowing that's important even if you can't do them.
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In reply to @aboone_angie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Have you seen these?
https://t.co/SdKXPJuyP5
My Ss keep going "of I noticed 7x5 is like 6x5 but 5 more!"
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul, @bkdidact
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Yes
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Explain Everything really helps my Ss show thinking in their own way, too!
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In reply to @MFAnnie, @aboone_angie
LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Being a media specialist I teach tons of math. We are fabricating 2-3D shapes from playdough and toothpicks currently.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Question 4: What's it look like in your class?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT
We like these from
@BuildMathMinds
also!
https://t.co/iuh8KEYUGQ
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @LibrariansSoul, @BuildMathMinds
jennalaib
May 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Yes, I love using
@explainevrythng
! Haven't used it in a while though... I wonder how it might enhance next week's plans
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @MFAnnie, @aboone_angie, @explainevrythng
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: Real-world in my class can look like barbie ziplines or we do word problems but I let Ss tear apart how silly they are +
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MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: I want it to look like Ss' ideas driving the math in the classroom. That's "real".
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aboone_angie
May 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: fractions, measuring, multi step problems
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:35 PM EDT
+ and then I have them rework the problems into something meaningful or make their own around a concept.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Nothing is more real than a Ss ideas! :P
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In reply to @MFAnnie
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: A better question is what does my class look like in the real world? Today we took trips to the bank & grocery store!
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Question 4: What's it look like in your class?
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anndurham13
May 11 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Not like this. When's the last time you referred to money as $3/16?
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LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:36 PM EDT
No those are fantastic! I love using logic puzzles like sudoku & KenKens as well. I get engagement they get brain flexibility
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @bkdidact
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4b: Real quote from one of my students today: "This math trip is gonna be lit!"
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Question 4: What's it look like in your class?
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I like how you also rephrased this. I think the real-world is how Ss take and make sense of the math we learn in THEIR worlds
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In reply to @bkdidact
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT
KenKens are a serious addiction of mine...
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul, @bkdidact
LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I see more money of mine floating out the window! Can't wait to check them out!
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In reply to @bkdidact, @jennifuhs4, @BuildMathMinds
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
How do you do
#SwDMathChat
&
#elemmathchat
at the same time! Can't keep up!
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Question 5. This is an important one to me!
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:38 PM EDT
TweetDeck certainly helps, but it's still overwhelming
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach, @MFAnnie
LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I love watching Ss defend their answers or find their flaws during the process.
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
mrshainesmath
May 11 @ 9:39 PM EDT
like that description. Makes me think of
@TracyZager
story abt determining how many relatives can sleep on each flr of house
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In reply to @MFAnnie, @TracyZager
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Free resources are awesome! Just have to find a printer :)
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul, @bkdidact, @BuildMathMinds
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT
That's the best. I call them math fights. Only they often are mostly arguing with themselves! :)
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul, @MissMath_Teach
LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT
I love when Ss reply to and challenge each other. These talks can easily become student led.
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In reply to @MFAnnie, @aboone_angie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT
The best classes are where I do almost none of the talking :)
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul, @MFAnnie, @aboone_angie
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: Depends on the student, the disAbility, & the math content in question. There are many combos that lead to SwD strengths!
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Question 5. This is an important one to me!
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:42 PM EDT
That's true! Can you pick one S you might have in mind and give an example?
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In reply to @bkdidact
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5 Love listening to the paths that Ss take to prob solve. I learn so much. Brings creativity back to math
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anndurham13
May 11 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5 In my very mixed class, SwD often share a unique approach to a problem when others just regurgitate a certain method
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: My Ss with LBLD struggle often with comp so they find unique ways to compute. It's always amazing how they see/solve it
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Yes. Reminds me of a talk at NCTM... are we teaching math history or math? Ss thinking guiding a class is not math history
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I love the methods they often take. Hopefully other glean new approaches from "inefficient" methods our Ss take
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In reply to @anndurham13
bkdidact
- Moderator
May 11 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Im thinking of pairs of Ss. One with strengths in lang & computation & another w/ strengths in prob solving & fine motor skills
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
aboone_angie
May 11 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: seeing the world differently sometimes allows for a more straight forward method of problem solving
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: I just love that in my class of 11, I get 5 diff ways to "see" a visual pattern. many opportunities to make diff equations
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LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Seeing the thinking of other students opens doors for all our Ss - easy to see where their line of inquiry may have gone wrong
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In reply to @MissMath_Teach
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Efficiency can't be taught one way. Our Ss see the world / math so uniquely!
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In reply to @aboone_angie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Question 6: Disclaimer... this one is a deep one. Q7 may have to god to a slow chat forum
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:48 PM EDT
my biggest struggle is finding ways to show Ss that a small mistake/flaw in their process is not an overall failure
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul, @MissMath_Teach
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:49 PM EDT
process over final answer!
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MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: I like to do
#NoticeWonder
with them. Convince them they DO have ideas. Can be hard, but pays off big time. Revelatory!
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:50 PM EDT
go to..... I caught Andrew's typo bug!
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bkdidact
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May 11 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: Learned helplessness is a major stumbling block. I believe it can only be made dormant by perseverance & growth mindset.
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Question 6: Disclaimer... this one is a deep one. Q7 may have to god to a slow chat forum
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HeatherSugrue
May 11 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: It makes me try harder to find activities/ideas that will draw those Ss in and let them experience success.
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Do you have a process to show them everything they notice/wonder? A la making thinking visible?
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In reply to @MFAnnie
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:51 PM EDT
And removing the Q, and asking about ideas, is a lot less scary. They can't "know" they can't do it, cuz there's no "it".
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@joboaler
shout out
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In reply to @bkdidact, @joboaler
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Yes! We want all Ss to experience success!
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In reply to @HeatherSugrue
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:52 PM EDT
This is so important!
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MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:51 PM EDT
And removing the Q, and asking about ideas, is a lot less scary. They can't "know" they can't do it, cuz there's no "it".
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LibrariansSoul
May 11 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Be vulnerable ourselves. Create safe enviro. "mistakes" ok - allow time for depth. Accept all answers. Start where they are
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Question 6: Disclaimer... this one is a deep one. Q7 may have to god to a slow chat forum
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jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Yes! I love it! My students eat these problems up.
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In reply to @MFAnnie
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I like covering all white boards in room with S's
#NoticeWonder
ideas. Very visible. And everyone listens to each idea.
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Love it! I wish I had the space. I share a room. I use Seesaw with my Ss and post their awesome "thoughts" not solutions :)
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In reply to @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:54 PM EDT
I want them to look back and see how their thinking and modeling has improved. It's not even about the answer!
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MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:54 PM EDT
If possible have Ss write
#NoticeWonder
ideas down, share w/partner/team, then Ss have more bandwidth to listen to other ideas.
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Luckily I make mistakes frequently as I tend to write my numbers out of order. DOH!
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In reply to @LibrariansSoul
MissMath_Teach
May 11 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Yes! It can kill confidence & cause shut down. Been focusing a lot on
@joboaler
work w
#growthmindset
to try to move past this
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @LibrariansSoul, @joboaler
MFAnnie
May 11 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Lots of easel paper. Can also type in a Word doc on projector (faster for me, and avoids my bad handwriting).
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In reply to @jennifuhs4
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Timing is key for when Ss should share. My Ss will turn to the "alpha" in the room if it's too early in the process
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In reply to @MFAnnie
jennifuhs4
May 11 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I personally love being critiqued about how my 5s look like Ss. :P
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In reply to @MFAnnie