#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.

Monday October 15, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #musedchat! Our topic this evening: Preventing stagnation in our classrooms. Be sure to introduce yourself. Post your favorite October-related GIF. #musiced
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  • ochoajon8 Oct 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Jon from dearborn, Mi, hi all! #MusEdchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Hi #musedchat! I’m Lauren Gruber, orchestra teacher in Richmond, Indiana.
  • MsRommelBand Oct 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! I'm Andrea - beginning band teacher in NJ. Happy fall! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Good to see you Jon, welcome #musedchat
    In reply to @ochoajon8
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    How are you tonight Lauren? #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Good evening to you Andrea, welcome #musedchat
    In reply to @MsRommelBand
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi All! Amy from MI. Middle school band. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    One of the greatest movies ever. Happy Monday! #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Joe from metro Detroit. MS/HS band. #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Oct 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Forgot my gif. #MusEdchat
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Excellent choice! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Hey everyone! Burton from VA. DMA Candidate through @BUOnline https://t.co/UNv08XgT54 #musedchat
  • Muzzikkatt Oct 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    https://t.co/kPqb7C7jlf #musedchat Kathy from MI K-8 Gen Mus and band
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Q1 on the way shortly #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Hi all Sam Fritz from Greenwood, IN 6-8 Band. It’s the end of the nine weeks for us so … #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Q1: At what point in the year (if at all), do you feel a need to change from your usual routine? What lets you know when it’s time? #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Hi Burton, hope you're doing well tonight #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable, @BUonline
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Good to see you as always Kathy #musedchat
    In reply to @Muzzikkatt
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Hi Sam, hope you're doing well tonight #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: During the marching band season, it hits in the middle of September when you're cleaning drill. Then usually about late February/early March. Kids got restless. I got restless. https://t.co/PskHHmIXZl #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT
      Q1: At what point in the year (if at all), do you feel a need to change from your usual routine? What lets you know when it’s time? #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    R1: after concerts is an obvious answer but I try to incorporate team building as much as possible in the spring when I feel a group is getting tired of working with each other #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: I think the performance cycle lends itself to pretty natural changes in the routine. However, a change can also be good coming in close to a performance w/ music we've been working up for a while. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Yeah, I feel roughly the same way. That stretch from mid-winter break to spring break is a long way. The cold, dark days don't help either. #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable
  • musichollie Oct 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Hollie from Lancaster, PA. General music grades 3-6 and chorus #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1: once the band begins to anticipate what exercise or warm-up or anything, its time to switch it up a bit. #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Oct 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1i can feel it when the Ss are ready to move on, after a concert, but other times the energy during a project #MusEdchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Once they think they don’t need to watch the conductor anymore... #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • musichollie Oct 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A1- stretch in the winter- especially since we don’t have a real spring break. #musedchat
  • MsRommelBand Oct 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A1: I agree with this. The concert cycle is a great time to revamp as needed. I try to add in some mini in-school performances in March/April to help get through the slow season for elementary band as well. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    I feel like we space performances well (not too much time in between), but in general having school everyday with nothing to really break things up can get the kids too https://t.co/BP0DdpGfaY #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
      Yeah, I feel roughly the same way. That stretch from mid-winter break to spring break is a long way. The cold, dark days don't help either. #musedchat
      In reply to @BurtonHable
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    And I know I sometimes forget that the kids aren't always as well-equipped to repeatedly dig into details as we are. That can really feel like a grind from their perspective. #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Assuming they were watching to start with. 😅 #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch, @SamuelFritz
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Lol so true 😂🤷🏼‍♀️ #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Q2: What are your favorite ways to switch things up in your classroom? #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    R2: chamber music unit (all students in groups 4-8), sectionals, mix up rehearsals (sit by someone not in your section), silent rehearsal #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Oct 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2 this is easier in the elementary room, but handing more over to the Ss and letting them lead #MusEdchat
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2: Change up seating (circles, random, rearrange rows, etc), Garageband back beats with warm ups, small group work, sectionals. #musedchat
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2: I liked to use flexible seating to get them listening and watching differently. I should have used it more often! https://t.co/fhxU54uZRt #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Oct 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2 also easier in elementary room, moving the class to a different area of the room can help #MusEdchat
  • MsRommelBand Oct 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2: I'm starting to use @Flipgrid Portfolios this year & at the end of every month, Ss will record a selection they've been working on to track their growth and progress. Given limited time, I think once a month will make this something to look forward to! #musedchat
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2-2: Or having other students conduct, going conductor-less. February was our solo/ensemble time, so rehearsals could be broken up with that. May was a student-led ensemble project https://t.co/fhxU54uZRt #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Circle seating is fun. What other non-standard seating arrangements do you all like to use? #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Pretty sure that one came from @jguarr . :) #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch, @jguarr
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    I haven’t had a ton of success with it, even at the HS level. All students have to be extremely disciplined for it to work. If you try it let me know how it goes! #musedchat
    In reply to @MsRommelBand
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2-3: For 1 piece per concert cycle this last year, I used a flex band piece to split students up from into non-homogenous groups. Taught rehearsal strategies and let them rehearse themselves https://t.co/fhxU54uZRt #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Stole it from a college classmate #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @GrubersOrch
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A2: great idea from one of my students - free seat Friday within your section. Also have a wide variety of fundamental exercises like from Essential Musicianship or Habits is Successful MS so you have ways to switch #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Definitely stealing Free Seat Friday. #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A2:1 Happy Birthday guest conductor gives kids a chance to conduct plus it’s fun! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Maybe try it in small chunks at first, five minutes at a time. #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch, @MsRommelBand
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    I think building a routine and establishing your expectation is key. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @MsRommelBand
  • musichollie Oct 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A2- changing seats, movement activity, breathing for 5 counts, taking advantage of a teachable moment; playing a game or singing a fav song; also flipgrid, breakout Edu, and even hybrid approach (requires training) #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    I've done it a time or two, but only when we're pretty comfortable with a piece. Harder to teach nuts and bolts in a silent set up. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @GrubersOrch, @MsRommelBand
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Went digging for links. Ensemble Project: https://t.co/ZznwalmMup Flex Band: https://t.co/faXtZNSYP8 #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Ever tried bring percussiontonthe frot right next to you but facing the winds? The get to hear what they are supposed to hear and I don’t do this often enough! #MusEdchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @AmyLynnRever, @GrubersOrch
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Never had them facing the band before! That could be fun! #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @jguarr, @GrubersOrch
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Q3: Ever tried something new in an effort to keep things fresh, only to have it fall flat? What did you learn from the experience? #musedchat
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    I did this with a piece before (@Ostimusic 's Foundry), but never thought of doing it as a rehearsal strategy with other pieces! #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @jguarr, @AmyLynnRever, @GrubersOrch, @Ostimusic
  • rebelmusicteach Oct 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Everything good is stolen!!!!!!!! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @AmyLynnRever, @GrubersOrch
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Great for balance and classroom management too #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @jguarr, @GrubersOrch
  • rebelmusicteach Oct 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A2: I sectioned off my beginners today, and picked up a saxophone mouthpiece for demonstration. I played sax most of the rest of the day, and it honestly helped w/ classroom management. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A3: Tried to have kids write a story to accompany a piece we were writing. One sentence per kid going around the room. Kids wanted to play and got waaaay to goofy with it. #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    R3: I like to think my kids are very forgiving when we try new things. If it doesn’t work, at least we learned one way not to accomplish our goals. #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Oct 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Tried to do a unit on choreography last year. Turns out im terrible at choreographing things n it just confused the Ss #MusEdchat
  • rebelmusicteach Oct 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    This is a fun thing to do. I wrote a “play” like this in a general music class once. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A3: ok, everyone is going to learn a solo- major fail! I wasn’t at all prepared for that amount of work. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A3.1: It could go better, but I think I needed to approach it differently and give it a little more set up. My attempt to be unstructured led to chaos instead of creativity. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A3: Student conductors have been hit or miss for me. Some classes love it, some classes just have no interest in getting up front #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Same thing for me with chamber music. Some kids do really, really well. Some just aren’t ready to play a part alone (or even with a friend). Neat thing is this is an easy place for differentiation #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A3: when I was teaching HS percussion I tried “everyone is required to attend solo and ensemble festival on mallet, snare, and timpani solos” sorry OVHS #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Oct 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Chamber music was so important to me as a young musician it has taken many attempts to find my groove with getting Ss inspired in the same ways. #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Q4: What's been your greatest success when changing things up? #musedchat
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A4: I have two. The first are definitely the ensemble project and small ensembles I referenced before https://t.co/4t0H0wPHwb https://t.co/QbeNGITcFS #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Oct 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    R4: the ultimate goal is that students listen better, watch better, and generally play better. But if they have fun playing their instrument, that’s a success too. #musedchat
  • PopMusicEd Oct 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    You know you want to present at a conference with performers like these kids — The Ch33rios at MTSU this past summer. APME National Conference: New York University, June 12-15, 2019. Call for papers is live. See you there! #popmused #musedchat https://t.co/hBqIqGr8Ur
  • AmyLynnRever Oct 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A4: #GeniusHour is my favorite. We use it following our Spring Concert. Students get a lot of freedom and never cease to amaze with the cool projects they come up with. #musedchat
  • BurtonHable Oct 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A4: The second one would be the Swing Dance we did as a jazz band fundraiser. All 8-12 jazz bands play, bring a potluck item. First 30 minutes is learning how to swing dance, rest of the night is kids playing for kids dancing. https://t.co/4t0H0wPHwb #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Oct 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A4 not sure i had one great success, but have had to change things on the fly often n am honest w Ss about it, they learn to be flexible by being included in the experience #MusEdchat
  • PopMusicEd Oct 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    You know you want to present at a conference with performers like these kids — The Ch33rios at MTSU this past summer. APME National Conference: New York University, June 12-15, 2019. See you there! #popmused #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Oct 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A4: Started sending small groups out around the school after our winter concert to play some carols a few years ago. That's been the biggest success so far. Gets kids excited for chamber music. #musedchat