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Tuesday October 11, 2016
WELCOME We have heard year round school would benefit Ss. If the pay for educators was commensurate with the time, could this work?
Topic:We've often heard that a yr round schl yr would benefit our Ss. If pay for edus was commensurate w/the time, could this work?
I think year round schooling could work and benefit students becuase they would not have so much lost knowledge during summer
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Topic: We've often heard that a yr round schl yr would benefit our Ss. If pay for edus was commensurate w/the time, could this work?
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Topic:We've often heard that a yr round schl yr would benefit our Ss. If pay for edus was commensurate w/the time, could this work?
Welcome to --- thoughts re year round school?
Thanks Raquel... welcome to topic -> year round school
Now We have heard year round school would benefit Ss. If the pay for educators was commensurate with the time, could this work?
Year round schooling makes intuitive sense - 1 quarter / season. 10 weeks on, 3 weeks off. Downside? We LOVE our long summers
Good question... thoughts?
I think year round would be difficult for Ss to adjust to, but has lots of possible benefits
Can extending the school year but still relying on 20th century methodology really make a difference in the way kids are learning?
tomwhitby: Topic:We've often heard that a yr round schl yr would benefit our Ss. If pay for edus was commensurate w/the time, could…
tomwhitby: Topic: We've often heard that a yr round schl yr would benefit our Ss. If pay for edus was commensurate w/the time, coul…
Year round school meaning increased number of days or just spread out without one long summer break
Thanks and welcome to So what should be done?
One thought: ongoing training (either or additional formal schooling for Ts) is trickier with a year-round model.
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if schools did year round school with more short breaks,students would benefit bc knowledge wouldn't be lost as quickly.
Thanks Allison... In your view, would year round school have more days than current school year?
Now THERE'S a question. Sometimes more is just 'more,' Not better, https://t.co/8UzEVF8ZuD
Can extending the school year but still relying on 20th century methodology really make a difference in the way kids are learning?
Methodology may have to adjust w/schools changing. kids that are high risk/poverty, benefits to them being in school more
The goal is for students to be literate in mathematics so that we can prepare them for a world where the subject is rapidly growing.
Makes lots of sense... so why aren't we doing year round school?
- it's certainly true that at-risk students do benefit from this model. Great comment.
YEAR ROUND SCHOOL won't make much difference if everyone does what they been doing the rest of the year.
Allison, Interesting point Adjust, how so?
I think it should be a local decision - made with family, teacher, student and board input.
In a year round school would some students and families lose out on a seasonal job to offset family expenses?
because we don't want it :) it's too familiar, too hard-wired into schools' DNA.
ANYONE OUT THERE expereinced with year round school?
another downside - there is a vibrant summer camp industry, really big in some communities/regions
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- think you're dead right about not just extending the year w/o changing the curriculum. & shorter days?
tomwhitby: In a year round school would some students and families lose out on a seasonal job to offset family expenses?
What would a nationwide full school year do to the seasonal vacation industry in the US?
some industries / opportunities would be limited (or camps) bit new ones would crop up.
"Suspicion is a heavy armor and with its weight it impedes more than it protects."
--Robert Burns
My wife taught in a year-round school and schduling was a nightmare. Ss in three levels had 3 different schedules - no accomodation.
Very interesting question. Related, would local economy lose seasonal workforce and revenue?
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Year-round schl does some similar to typical working experience (short vacations) Wouldn't similating work be good for our HS Ss?
- some schools in UT go (mostly) year round, with periodic weeks off. Many Ts like it.
Doing more of the same things that don't work more will result in more of the same things. Year Round School or Regular School Year
In theory I like it as a concept, it would need an innovative curriculum though
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Part of me feels like the rise of trump is a failure of American education to teach the fundamentals of and threats to democracy.
how has it impacted the students?
My brother goes to a school w/ a balanced calendar. It's 9 weeks followed by a 2 week break. Summer is only shorter by a week or two
tomwhitby: What would a nationwide full school year do to the seasonal vacation industry in the US?
On paper year-round is interesting, but the curriculum has to be different. Also, don't forget about the arts and sports.
Don't think radically changing the calendar wld improve things enough 2 justify. Would rather focus on teacher/leader development.
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Yes, - some schools here in Utah do that. Some good elements to this calendar. https://t.co/x5NugwECVC
My brother goes to a school w/ a balanced calendar. It's 9 weeks followed by a 2 week break. Summer is only shorter by a week or two
WHY do we have the 'school year' that we have? Do those reasons still hold true? If not, then why do we hold on?
You are showing that there are ways to be innovative in scheduling. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
These costs offset by lower summer childcare$ and food expenses with potential for work internships in HS voc ed?
- the calendar is balanced and Ss tend to keep the progress made. Less "summer slide!"
How would a year round academic schedule effect teacher performance?
Is its necessary to "keep up with the latest and greatest?" Is it about or ?
We started because of agrarian calendar. I would rather shrink the summer for teachers (more training) and extend day
We need the Ss at home to harvest the crops . No crops in your town? Well, that's just the way we have always done it
Great Question! Wouldn't it be more friendly to working parents if kids went to school year-round?
How would a year round academic schedule affect the infrastructure & utility costs? Most schools are not air conditioned.
As we chat about year round school let's not forget that the seconds and minutes make the school year matter...
- also, with the prevalence of summer schools, many Ts already go "year round."
tomwhitby: How would a year round academic schedule effect teacher performance?
tomwhitby: How would a year round academic schedule affect the infrastructure & utility costs? Most schools are not air conditioned.
I'd love to see some studies, but as a teacher I'd prefer shorter breaks b/c I think I'd be more productive overall.
- such a valid point. Particularly in the east/northeast (and anyplace where older buildings exist). Tough call.
Yup. We'd deny some kids a needed break from an environment that fails a lot of them. https://t.co/I7USg64Xgc
YEAR ROUND SCHOOL won't make much difference if everyone does what they been doing the rest of the year.
I agree needs to be reconceptualized esp W so many working moms & varied work schedules. 7 day school?
More that the industry, what happens to the possibility for children to spend prolonged periods at outdoor camps.
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agree. Feels like the wrong place to start. Focus should be on engagement, T quality, curriculum, rigor.
Many year-round schools use an A,B,C track system so building is used full time. Result is 1/3 of Ss are off at any one time
like it how about parents? Original calendar designed for families
Imagine if teachers had 3-4 weeks of development and had a 6 week instead of 10 week summer vacation. That would be a game changer!
- working parents struggle w/ current schedule anyway. Year round may help.
How do we balance kids' seat time in school with kids' need for play outdoors in a year round academic schedule?
In year round schooling the concept of schools would need to evolve to more diverse and natural/outdoor experiential learning models
Two challenges; CALENDAR/Schedule and TRANSPORTATION for working families.
Much has to happen in order for year-round-school to have much positive impact on learning/teaching
$/resources that would go toward an extended school year would be better spent on expanding access to summer enrichment to all kids.
Great question, Here's where curriculum shifts and (natural-based learning, too?) come in.
Hey Jeremy... we need to do something, but what we do needs to be well thought out...
True, - the nice thing is, now that certain schools are trying the model, everyone can learn what works.
could be... but if shift to year-round-school is for parents (not students) they let's call it what it is...
How do we sell a country a new way of thinking about a school calendar that has been established for over 200 years?
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and the answer is? not much impact on learning...
tomwhitby: How do we balance kids' seat time in school with kids' need for play outdoors in a year round academic schedule?
tomwhitby: How do we sell a country a new way of thinking about a school calendar that has been established for over 200 years?
We'll talk about helping students this time of year in 30 min : affordability, crisis, nudging, etc.
Better infrastructure designed for outdoor play, natural classrooms, active learning curriculum for all subjects
Balancing depends on age range of Ss: cognitive, affective, motor needs & parental concerns
Building a new calendar is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. You need to steer away from the iceberg first.
I don't think the biggest challenges would come from the country, but from teachers themselves. I could be wrong.
my thought was it should at least have a lot of support...Could be a win-win? Good for students AND good for parents.
Wouldn't that depend on the demographic? Some might relish a season off for different pursuits.
How might we scorch swift agendas in this uncertain time?
Thanks for clarification...
yes, Howard it will impact families... so how to handle?
I think there are more implications in such a change than folks have yet to realize. There would be push back from more
Sadly, we have NO definitive guidelines for 21st cent tchr need to believe, know, be able to DO based on demographic
tomwhitby: I think there are more implications in such a change than folks have yet to realize. There would be push back from more …
Topic:We've often heard that a yr round schl yr would benefit our Ss. If pay for edus was commensurate w/the time, could this work?
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Passion for your profession is exploring what is happening elsewhere, trying new things, and thinking about the possibilities ahead.
I feel that the country's unwillingness to change from what is comfortable limits our ability to be mobile in edu
Pay would have to be a consideration. Many T's work in the summer to supplement their pay now.
As a former band director the complexity of 1/3 of Ss being gone at all times is "interesting".
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wouldn't necessarily have to be more time, just shifted time. Don't think pay would be impacted. Just energy cost for AC.
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The afternoon speaker, Dr Fouad Abd El Khalick, dean at UNC School of Education, spoke abt students' attitudes towards science in Qatar. 3/3
Money is reason districts switch to Virtual schooling -tchrs & Ss work from home on THEIR SCHEDULE
by coming up with a better calendar and then slowly but surely convincing both authorities and schools
Does a year round calendar mean 365 days minus holidays or something less restrictive? would 3 out of 4 quarters in a year work?
this is why it's so important to teach literacy to all students, not just the ⭐️ students
I hear that - that's why I think it needs to be a very local decision. Some districts do both (year round for some)
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agreed. The focus should be the students and the community, not the system
How would child care work for families with both parents working?
Thanks to moderator as we explore the possibilities and drawbacks of a year round academic calendar in
Thanks to moderator as we explore the possibilities and drawbacks of a year round academic calendar in
I agree and it starts with WHY. Identify an agreed upon goal and back map from there.
so do schools provide child care type services?
Yes-job description for tchrs has exploded but NOT compensation or A 50 to 60 hr week job 4 little reward
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and the answer is? not much impact on learning...
tomwhitby: How would child care work for families with both parents working? timholt2007
I think the best investment - would be to bring teachers back 2-3weeks early. We need adult time!
tomwhitby: Thanks to moderator ShiftParadigm as we explore the possibilities and drawbacks of a year round academic calendar in …
Excellent advice, - so easy to launch something without a clear purpose. https://t.co/UsLss71k3d
Clearly define the purpose up front. Is it to save money or a better education? Be clear before launching.
WORD. Yes to the need for T respect and compensation. ALWAYS.
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Yes.offset if students lead their own learning. If students/families decide objectives,pace,vaction. Teachers=mentors
Gotta like this for : "The best of both worlds." Cc https://t.co/e4dLIDfBpP
maybe have it both ways "we think it's best to wait till marriage etc...but if you choose otherwise, here's how to be safe"
As we come to a close on the 1st of the day I'd like to thank all who participated. Next 7 PM EDT, different Topic C U then
As we come to a close on the 1st of the day I'd like to thank all who participated. Next 7 PM EDT, different Topic C U then
tomwhitby: As we come to a close on the 1st of the day I'd like to thank all who participated. Next 7 PM EDT, different Top…
tomwhitby: As we come to a close on the 1st of the day I'd like to thank all who participated. Next 7 PM EDT, different Top…
