#G2Great Archive

This chat is dedicated to continuing the conversation about teacher reflection it's based on Dr. Mary Howard's book Good to Great Teaching.

Thursday September 13, 2018
8:30 PM EDT

  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to our #G2Great chat tonight: Part 1 of our series Maximizing Our Potential Focusing on the Literacy Work that Matters "Allocating Instructional Time" @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy @hayhurst3
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome #G2great friends. We are so grateful that you are joining us tonight. I will be ROBO “Pretweet” Mary tonight since I’m currently working in a school in Honolulu HI. I’ll savor your wisdom & post the @Wakelet AFTER the chat - by the ocean ❤️
  • asembroski Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Ready to follow and learn with you tonight! Ashlee- 5th grade Texas #ibpyp #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Always happy to help out! You and Lindsay! #G2Great
    In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @light_lindsay
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hello! Johnny Downey, instructional coach from Cincinnati, Ohio! So excited to be here tonight, love my PLN! #G2Great
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    So happy to be discussing allocating time with #g2great community.
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi—Julie from NY. Excited to join in! #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Welcome, Ashlee! Good to see you! #g2great
    In reply to @asembroski
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    #G2Great We are big fans of yours Fran!!
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @light_lindsay
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Molly, teacher educator, consultant, professor, author in NYC #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Our opening quote for our #G2Great chat: Part 1 of our series "Allocating Instructional Time" @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy @hayhurst3
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Brent from Magrath so far snow free #g2great
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Good to see you @johnnydowney #g2great
    In reply to @johnnydowney, @johnnydowney
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi Mary! Sending you loads of love that you can see when you read the chat! ❤️ #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @wakelet
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Lisa, third grade teacher from Albany, NY. Excited for the chat tonight #G2Great
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Gen, from @LiteracyPages here. Looking forward to tonight's chat! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Welcome, Johnny, @juliewright4444 and @LRobbTeacher #g2Great
    In reply to @johnnydowney, @juliewright4444, @LRobbTeacher
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Welcome, Lisa! #G2Great
    In reply to @LTastor
  • ERobbPrincipal Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Happy to be here- Evan from VA #g2great
  • mollienye72 Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hello! Mollie from Columbus, Ohio. I teach K. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Teachers and kiddos = designers of meaningful experiences. Doesn’t get any better than that! #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Welcome back, Gen! #g2great
    In reply to @genarcovio, @LiteracyPages
  • BriareWynn Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Briare, Reading Recovery teacher and early literacy coach from York Region, Ontario, Canada #g2great
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Jen from PA, second grade, looking forward to another great chat. Although, someone really wants to play instead! #g2great
  • DoctorSam7 Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #G2GREAT Happy to be here! Sam from St Louis
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #g2great Hey, all! Mindi from the Chicago suburbs here.
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Also happy founding member of the #peachhatresistance lol Hey @johnnydowney #g2great
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1: We must have a sense of urgency about prioritizing our instructional time because we don't have enough of it. What practices can be eliminated in lieu of more effective ones? #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1. Every second of every minute of every day of every year at school MATTERS. There are no "Do Overs". Ts must use time wisely Every Single Day. We can control the learning & the use of time at school. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Welcome, Brent and @mollienye72 and @BriareWynn #g2great
    In reply to @mrbgilson, @mollienye72, @BriareWynn
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    I love this! #g2great
    In reply to @mrbgilson, @johnnydowney
  • OnaFeinberg Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Popping in and out in between getting kids to bed! Ona k-5 instructional coach #G2Great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    #G2great Kasey, Literacy Coach for Keller ISD jumping in!
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1. What we know from research ... Allington via @ReadByExample "These teachers routinely had children actually reading and writing for as much as half of the school day – around a 50/50 ratio of reading and writing to stuff ..." https://t.co/iWCQFSnuLX #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 Time is the only thing that’s finite. Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. That alone should be the driving force behind rethinking how we expend our precious limited minutes. #G2Great
  • tanyalh7 Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    So excited for this series. Tanya from Rockwall, Texas #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Welcome Sam and @mindi_r #g2Great
    In reply to @DoctorSam7, @mindi_r
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    #g2great A1: Our time with the kids is relatively short, considering all we are expected to do. By intentionally planning to make the most of every minute, I can help my kids grow as much as possible.
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Hello everyone! Lisa from FL. #g2great
  • asembroski Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Great thinking! Urgency to meet and need our Ss needs #G2great
    In reply to @drmollyness
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Welcome, Tanya and @LiteracyCoachKS #G2Great
    In reply to @tanyalh7, @LiteracyCoachKS
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1: Kids put value on time. If it is noticing their teachers coming to events or how we spend our class time. They notice. They value what we place as priority. #g2great
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1 My WHY for this remains my WHY for everything: THE KIDS! They deserve the best from us and allocating time to maximize everyone’s potential is the very BEST! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1. What we know from research ... Allington via @ReadByExample "Less effective Ts ... kids R & W for as little as 10% of the day (30 min. /300 min., school day). ,,,a 90 min. “reading block” produces only 10–15 minutes of actual reading time. https://t.co/iWCQFSnuLX #G2Great
  • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Valinda joining in from TX. Hello to all my esteemed #g2great friends!
  • ERobbPrincipal Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1 Purposeful and intentional use of time always makes a difference #g2great
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Hi! My name is Rhonda. I am a Reading Recovery teacher/literacy specialist in upstate NY #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Welcome, Lisa! #G2Great
    In reply to @lisahburns
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Hi #G2Great! Jill frome New Brunswick arriving late!
  • asembroski Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: Time spent with our students is precious. We have the duty to make the most out of our time with Ss- urgency is critical! #g2great
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A 1 during instructional time , need 15-20 minutes independent reading, teacher read aloud, instructional level reading instruction, partner and group discussions, writing about reading-need 60 to 75 min a day in middle and high school and 120-150 minutes a day in K-5. #g2great
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    #g2great This is why I love what my district has been doing in literacy studio: 2 hours. Of that, only 15-20 minutes is “mine” for whole group instruction. The rest is for kids to read and write (they choose, but are expected to do both every day).
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @ReadByExample
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: instructional time is what we’re here for. It’s the vitamin that kids need in order to grow strong as learners. #g2great
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: Students are with us for such a small portion of the day so we can’t spend that time engaging in activities that are not authentic, purposeful, or engaging to students , #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Welcome, Evan and @vrkimmel #G2Great
    In reply to @ERobbPrincipal, @vrkimmel
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    #G2Great And as always so wise Mary. And to be a little “zen” the happiest people live in the moment. I am always happiest as a teacher when I am in the moment of engaging with students and learning and not fretting over some other unimportant nonsense.
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
      A1 Time is the only thing that’s finite. Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. That alone should be the driving force behind rethinking how we expend our precious limited minutes. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 Every moment we spend in unproductive time-wasting ways reflects a moment that we have cheated kids. It’s simply about being thoughtful about the choices we make on a day to day basis. #G2Great
  • BriareWynn Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 - In reflecting upon allocating our instructional time, we are being intentional about every minute. We are attempting to eliminate the wasted time to make room for "meaningful experiences" #g2great
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 We never seem to have enough time, but how we choose to spend it sends a clear message about what we value. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1: The WHY is kiddos need & deserve us to be good stewards of time. We don’t have enough of it…so spending it on the highest leverage moves is what matters. #G2GREAT
  • OnaFeinberg Sep 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    By allocating instructional time in a way that has us teach with urgency, we can watch our Teacher time and allow the learners to own their learning time. #G2Great
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Yes and to follow up on this I would say that kids can sense the time we take on a downloadable package program (minimal) People don't like to hear it but kids notice when we call it in. #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    #g2great I will admit that it took time for me to learn to be as efficient as possible with my instruction and time. It was not always easy, given demands of curriculum and expectations of administrators.
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1 When time is efficient and every minute of instruction is worthwhile and none of it is wasted, learning will flourish. In business time is money. In education time is learning. #g2great
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Hi Jill!! #G2Great
    In reply to @ShelfieTalk
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1 It’s so easy to waste bits of time in the day: standing in line, transitioning, clean up. If we wrote all of those bits down, we’d be shocked at the magnitude of wasted time by the end of the year. Be aware. #G2Great
  • OnaFeinberg Sep 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    It’s something I keep learning! #g2great
    In reply to @mindi_r, @DrMaryHoward
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Good evening #g2great! Valerie Instructional Coach from FL joining!
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1. Ss need time to practice and process. We all know that the more focused practice (mental rehearsal and physical practice) we do for something, the better we get at it. #g2great
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Hi Kitty!! #G2great
    In reply to @donohoe_kitty
  • mollienye72 Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1:Time is a precious commodity. Many times one must get creative with how to manage the “time” we’re given with the constraints which are out of our control. Prioritize and make time for what we value first. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1. It's critical that we are honest about "time wasters" when Ss are not R and W for real reasons. Can't spend all day "getting ready to . . ." #G2Great
  • tanyalh7 Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    My why is the Kids! They deserve a teacher/learning tour guide that values their every minute inside and outside of the classroom #G2Great
  • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1 My own why statement: I coach teachers so they are empowered to provide a safe place for students to be curious, to read widely and critically, to experiment with and express ideas, to learn about the world and its people, to discover their capacity to create, 1/2 #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A2. Disruptive schedules: Assemblies, safety drills, announcements . . . anything that "drones on" and could have been handled more efficiently! build a schedule that has those events included w/o disrupting learning. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1. Cannot ever ask for MORE time if we are NOT wise stewards of the precious time we already have! #G2Great
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    #G2Great I agree Molly, some things are out of our control and it does take creativity and prioritizing to focus on what is most important.
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • BriareWynn Sep 13 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1 - we also need to be efficient and allocate our own planning time. Wasted time prepping unnecessary, unmemorable tasks is time taken away from meaningful instruction #g2great
  • DoctorSam7 Sep 13 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    #g2great In workshop training I learned a key question is what work do we leave the the students and why. Burkins and Yaris really got me thinking about that. As you plan if you know the answer to that key question you can avoid wasting a lot of time.
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Q2: I see lengthy (20+ minutes) of morning meetings as an unwise use of instructional time #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2 Basal reading programs! It’s ludicrous to think that all Ts must be on the same page at the same time. We don’t have one-size-fits all kids so why would we even consider treating them as if they are? #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2: Some districts, including my own kids, use low-utility assessments (AIMSweb, STAR). When given before, or in lieu of, meeting 1:1 w/Ss=missed opportunities. My own son rushed through his "computer test" so that he could read his ind. choice book. #G2GREAT
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2 High stakes state assessments driving what we do is such a challenge for me. Yes it is important, yes we have to do it, but I hate it! It isn’t appropriate and it gives us useless information for instructional planning and design. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    And sometimes we need that internal debate to set our priorities and practice our arguments! #g2Great
    In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @mollienye72
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A1 I think of Marie Clay's call for us to teach with a sense of urgency. Students need us not to waste their precious learning time with any time wasting activities. #G2GREAT
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    #g2great A2. My schedule this year chops my literacy block into at least two (and on Wednesdays 3) chunks. This keeps my kids from getting into a groove. The transition from literacy to special and back to literacy takes time away from their reading and writing.
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    You are so wise and correct Fran. #G2GREAT
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @mollienye72
  • asembroski Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2: I am a self-contained teacher- so all the topical content I need to cover vs the conceptual, hands-on learning I want to engage my students in is a battle for me #g2great
  • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A1 ...to engage in civil discourse and to envisage their learning and its influence on themselves and others." The commitment to my why helps to allocate instructional time with a razor-sharp focus. We must know WHY before we launch out on the WHAT. #G2GREAT
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2: I am lucky that I do not really have anything that dictates how I spend my time. Unique I am sure but I am grateful. #g2great
  • mollienye72 Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A1: I find it’s equally important to teach our Ss to value their learning time, too. By taking the time to go slow at the beginning to learn routines and expectations allows for less wasted time in the future. Go slow to speed up?#g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Actually had a HS student fail a major accountability test because the only class where you could choose your own books was remedial. Sad! #G2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: Assessments that are used to gather data points that give very little useful or new information about students #G2Great
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: meetings, phone calls that aren’t urgent, the need to complete tasks that aren’t meaningful yet are required. When time is lost, it’s about reallocating those minutes throughout the day and prioritizing what is crucial. #G2GREAT
  • OnaFeinberg Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A1 also... I think it’s important the we have urgency and efficiency without rushing kids. Sometimes slowing down is actually the most efficient. So my goal is to talk less so kids have more time to slow down and learn. #G2great
  • tanyalh7 Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2 biggest challenge is testing. Unit assessments, CBAs, BOY assessments, diagnostics #G2Great
  • DoctorSam7 Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    @juliewright4444 I've often thought we need a "truth in testing" movement rating and ranking the test on FACE vailidity e.g. do the measure reading or decoding. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    I see that same issue in so many districts. It’s not effective, inefficient and disruptive. I applaud you for naming it as a problem. On paper it looks like a lot of time, but clunky chunks of time don’t work! #G2GREAT
    • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
      #g2great A2. My schedule this year chops my literacy block into at least two (and on Wednesdays 3) chunks. This keeps my kids from getting into a groove. The transition from literacy to special and back to literacy takes time away from their reading and writing.
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: Testing demands 😩 #g2great It seems like just as we begin to hit a productive stride it’s time for another test! Too much instructional time taken away from our kiddos!
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 What I find most disconcerting is that many mandates are made by people who don’t have the knowledge to support wise decision-making and without even consulting the people who do. #G2Great
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 Time assessing with tools that do not provide they type of information that can drive instruction #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    The person (s) talking is doing the work. If I already KNOW it, maybe I should be listening so much more! #G2Great
    In reply to @halein7th, @ReadByExample
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    I agree with you a million percent to the infinity power!!#g2great
    In reply to @valerietilton
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A 2 Schools often require teachers spend time discussing initiatives like positivity, test prep, computer programs for reading, erode valuable instructional time.#g2great
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Thanks for the inspiration Valinda. We’re crafting our team’s why statement right now! #G2GREAT
    In reply to @vrkimmel
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    My Why: To support, encourage, & empower teachers so that they can empower students!#g2great
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2: Also being pulled for PD that is not useful or pushing or challenging me to grow as a teacher! #G2Great
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2.Schedules get cut up funny and it makes for more transitions - mental and physical- for Ss and Ts. Being creative and developing routines for getting back into the groove quickly helps everyone. Developing that sense of urgency and purpose across the day. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    CRAZY! #G2Great
    In reply to @mindi_r
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻#G2Great
    In reply to @valerietilton
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 Definitely any mandated assessments (high stakes testing) & commercial programs that you are required to follow with fidelity. #G2GREAT
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 Computerized intervention programs have become a virus that have done little more than exacerbate the equity issues. Interventions require knowledgeable educators eyeball to eyeball with kids in student centered experiences. PERIOD! #G2Great
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Hi Laura! You are always so wise! #g2great
    In reply to @LRobbTeacher
  • mollienye72 Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2: my district’s kindergarten schedule is two full days/week with alternating Wednesdays. I have to maximize every minute. Any little disruption can derail the strongest lesson. #g2great
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    #g2great Doing my best to make it work. Getting the kids used to coming in from Spanish and go right back to their reading or writing is helping.
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    #G2great A1 We prioritize & make time for what we value! Independent reading coupled with Conferring...Know & Nurture via relationships\. partnerships + specific tailored instruction + goal setting and celebration!
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Yes! It is so frustrating!! #G2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2 Recently heard from a friend who teaches kgarten and there was talk that the district was going to mandate 30 minutes/day on isolated grammar skills with a required 30 minutes of handwriting practice. Is there research to support this practice? #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2. I see a lot of answers with scheduling issues, assessments (too many), basals, mandates from those who do not understand literacy! #g2great
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A3: Without a big picture approach, we compartmentalize portions too much - there is a disconnect between word study, guided reading, read alouds, writing, etc...#g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A3. Take the whole day and + up Reading minutes. Take the whole day and + up Writing minutes. Take the whole day and + up Speaking & Listening minutes. Are ALL Students reading and writing enough (volume) to grow? #G2Great
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Absolutely! If decision makers would spend more time fully engaged in classrooms and asking for real input from real teachers, we might actually get somewhere that make sense. #g2great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:47 PM EDT
      A2 What I find most disconcerting is that many mandates are made by people who don’t have the knowledge to support wise decision-making and without even consulting the people who do. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 Literacy is the thread that holds our day together as reading and writing are part of all subject areas. It’s not difficult to move literacy across the curriculum so that reading and writing will stretch across our day and our building. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3: Doing a time assessment where we determine how much time across the day belongs to the Ss is essential. Study how many minutes across the day Ss own the time--to read, write, make, create, design and do. #G2Great
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 Big picture is important because we have to understand where we are going before we go there. Blindly walking a path is not efficient for anyone! Creating echos of our teachings throughout the day is a great way to make learning stick! #g2great
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    We are a team-and I love that! #g2great
    In reply to @donohoe_kitty
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    #g2great I love it too Laura!
    In reply to @LRobbTeacher
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Neither. Chapter 16 of New ELA Research book by #ILA and #NCTE18 #G2Great https://t.co/uLl7uGNd3B
    • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      A2 Recently heard from a friend who teaches kgarten and there was talk that the district was going to mandate 30 minutes/day on isolated grammar skills with a required 30 minutes of handwriting practice. Is there research to support this practice? #G2GREAT
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    #g2great A3 I like to think about ripples across the day. How can I put things together so that the ripples (like dropping a stone in a puddle) keep moving across, making connections, and inviting transfer.
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Unfortunately, I have found there is "research" to support almost anything in education. That's part of the problem. Most programs out there tout being "researched based" so people believe what the publishers claim without ever reading the research to see if it is valid.#G2great
    In reply to @vrkimmel
  • DoctorSam7 Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    @franmcveigh I might add up the AUTHENTIC read aloud think aloud work, see the work of @drmollyness and Bill Kerns latest entry on my blog https://t.co/Phc9KiXuGb #G2Great
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: The big picture stuff is supported by all the smaller tasks. If we don't have a big picture how do we know what we need to focus on to get there? #g2great
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Love this image! #G2great
    In reply to @mindi_r
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: Seeing the big picture stops us from teaching isolated skills and keeps the focus on students reading, writing, collaborating, and creating throughout the day and across all content areas #G2Great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    #G2great A2 hands down assessments that yield little if any valuable data teachers can use to actually inform instruction and better know and nurture students 😔 over emphasis on fluency defined only by wpm, overemphasis on GR, and Intervention esp when tier 1 is lacking
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: without considering the big picture we fragment the day into pieces and kids think that there’s no place for reading or writing in math, science, etc. Spoiler alert: there is! #G2GREAT
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A3 Schools craft vision statements w/o deep conversations about what we value across a building. Our values are the professional GPS that helps us to see the big picture across a building. It gives us a common spirit of connectedness. #G2Great
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    #G2Great Thank you for another great resource. I am going to read the post as soon as the chat is over!
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Thanks. We are tackling the “how” next, so it is evolving into a fascinating conversation! #g2great
    In reply to @vrkimmel
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    That's solving the problems of the world. Wrong Priorities! #G2Great
    • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
      #G2great A2 hands down assessments that yield little if any valuable data teachers can use to actually inform instruction and better know and nurture students 😔 over emphasis on fluency defined only by wpm, overemphasis on GR, and Intervention esp when tier 1 is lacking
  • tanyalh7 Sep 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A3 Ss need to see connections and so do I. Ts can integrate and prioritize lessons if they are looking beyond day to day. Helps balance the mind and our time #G2great
  • EduGladiators Sep 13 @ 8:56 PM EDT
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  • OnaFeinberg Sep 13 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3 this question made me think BIG big picture... what are we hoping transfers to a life of reading and writing and learning? Holding this big understandings help guide the parts of the day together #g2great
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Beautiful!#g2great
    In reply to @mindi_r
  • BriareWynn Sep 13 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3 - countries that use a more integrated approach to instruction (not divided into so many subjects), such as Finland, tend to see more engaged, happier students. Chopping up the day is not always best #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3 That “big picture lens” ensures that excellence will permeate our building at every turn. This can’t be a matter of getting the luck of the teacher draw according to real estate. #G2Great
  • asembroski Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3: it builds a community within our school- we have a common purpose and mission and support each other towards that big goal- I see this in my school and am so thankful for our shared vision and amazing leadership support #g2great
  • mollienye72 Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3:list your non-negotiables and prioritize from there. You make room for what you value. #g2great
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Absolutely! #G2great
    In reply to @LTastor
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    And literacy is not skill + skill + skill Good point, Jen! #G2Great
    • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
      A3: without considering the big picture we fragment the day into pieces and kids think that there’s no place for reading or writing in math, science, etc. Spoiler alert: there is! #G2GREAT
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    #G2Great @franmcveigh I’m sure there is research that donuts and potato chips are good for you too! LOL ! It is a shame that people will grab supposed research to support something not helpful in education.
    In reply to @lisahburns, @vrkimmel, @franmcveigh
  • DoctorSam7 Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    @LiteracyCoachKS see @TimRasinski1 Megabook of Fluency for the best ideas on how to teach fluency. #G2Great
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3 What are the literacy instructional goals? Because those are the same goals for every part of the day. Without reading and writing, there is nothing else. #g2great
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3 When you look at the big picture you can include reading & writing throughout they day & in various content areas. Move away from this is reading time, this is writing time, this is science time. Instead reading & writing are all of the time. #G2GREAT
  • halein7th Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3: Using cross-curricular tools and strategies allows all teachers to focus on high-quality learning time. I personally love #thinkingmaps #g2great
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3: It would be very interesting to know how many hours/days total are actually spent on literacy, math, science, ss, CTE VS testing at the secondary level in an entire year. #g2great
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    No! It’s that dependence on skills in isolation. Grammar skill instruction in kindergarten is ridiculous. The district has lost its way! #g2great
    In reply to @vrkimmel
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A4: Musts: Independent reading and teacher-led read alouds (with think alouds!) #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Q4. Musts: Read Aloud; Time for Students to Read Self-Selected Text; and Time for Students to Write what they choose. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    That data might scare us! #G2Great
    • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
      A3: It would be very interesting to know how many hours/days total are actually spent on literacy, math, science, ss, CTE VS testing at the secondary level in an entire year. #g2great
  • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A3 I was so changed by reading @BurkinsandYaris Who's Doing the Work and their clear admonition to make the components of BL integrated and not disconnected bits of instruction. Kids should daily see a connection between read-aloud, shared reading, GR, IR #g2great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    #G2great A3 a narrow lens dedicated to curriculum/standards, following scripts, checklists, #s spreadsheets=passive compliance, Ts going thru motions on autopilot, and kids fall out of sight fading into the background
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Mic drop! #G2Great
    • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
      No! It’s that dependence on skills in isolation. Grammar skill instruction in kindergarten is ridiculous. The district has lost its way! #g2great
      In reply to @vrkimmel
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Oyyyy is right! Scary! Feel deeply for the children! #g2great
    In reply to @vrkimmel, @GreeneMachine82
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4: Co-planning time with colleagues that include Ss voice. Invite Ss into planning through work samples, exit tickets, think tanks with kiddos. Ask them what they need & want, they enlighten our planning every time. #G2GREAT
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4 Independent reading should go into the calendar first. We know the impact that volume plays on literacy development and yet it’s not a priority in every classroom. Why is that? #G2Great
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4 My one must would be leaving time for #IndependentReading EACH AND EVERY DAY! #g2great It’s truly the most important part of every Ss day and if we wish to create literate citizens that enjoy reading, we have an obligation to leave time for it!
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4: Read, Write and Talk Everyday. I have loved this year already as we read and discuss in pairs and groups, as we try out different quick write prompts and share our brilliance. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    YES! #G2Great
    • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
      A4 My one must would be leaving time for #IndependentReading EACH AND EVERY DAY! #g2great It’s truly the most important part of every Ss day and if we wish to create literate citizens that enjoy reading, we have an obligation to leave time for it!
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A4: Planning with the workshop model for reading, writing and word study! #G2GREAT
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    #g2great A4: MUST: Kids MUST have extended periods of time to read and write. Kids MUST have choices in what they read and write. Kids MUST trust that their voices will be heard and respected. Kids MUST be allowed to talk to their peers about all aspects of learning.
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    #G2Great I was so inspired when they hosted one of these chats. It made me really think about giving agency to kids. So hard to give up control sometimes but it’s so freeing when I do!
    In reply to @vrkimmel, @BurkinsandYaris
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Yes! We even plan our read alouds differently when we look at our day with a big picture perspective. This can tie things together and cause Ss and Ts to find connections throughout all of their learning all day and all week long. #G2great
    • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
      A3 When you look at the big picture you can include reading & writing throughout they day & in various content areas. Move away from this is reading time, this is writing time, this is science time. Instead reading & writing are all of the time. #G2GREAT
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Q4: Musts- daily read aloud, protected (no pull out/interventions) independent reading time. #G2Great
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A4: Students must be able to read self selected texts and write about meaningful topics in the mode they choose. They must also be read to every day! #G2Great
  • NancyTucc Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    No reason to use the Xerox machine when learning is through authentic reading & writing. #G2GREAT
    • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
      A3 When you look at the big picture you can include reading & writing throughout they day & in various content areas. Move away from this is reading time, this is writing time, this is science time. Instead reading & writing are all of the time. #G2GREAT
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    #G2great A4 Time, Access, Choice, & volume via Independent Rdg/Wrtg coupled with Conferring and grand conversations centered around literature
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A4: Small group learning opportunities that are planned with Ss interests, curiosities and needs in mind. And that give Ss a chance to lead their own learning. #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Yes, Kitty, because if we don't have them "try it out" how will they EVER become skilled independently? #G2Great
    • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
      #G2Great I was so inspired when they hosted one of these chats. It made me really think about giving agency to kids. So hard to give up control sometimes but it’s so freeing when I do!
      In reply to @vrkimmel, @BurkinsandYaris
  • shfarnsworth Sep 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    My favorite literacy resources: @ILAToday @ncte #g2great chat #tcrwp chat @Newsela @openupresources #ilachat
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    #G2Great Exactly Fran!!
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A4b: Every class starts with 20-25 minutes of reading while I confer. As the year moves forward and I discover areas of concern we will target the work in meaningful ways. Mini lessons and guided practice. Writing is a journey we are taking together. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4 As Steven Layne reminds us that read aloud shouldn’t need a defense – but it does. Read aloud is a professional MUST across all grades and all classrooms. It allows us to plant seeds as we create a learning community. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4: Using proximity to listen in and lean in to Ss conversations - formal and informal. This practice makes us more efficient and effective because it prioritizes using Ss voice & actions as planning tools. #G2GREAT
  • mollienye72 Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4:read aloud, shared reading, independent reading, shared writing, independent writing, and because I’m back in K, built in time for movement, purposeful play and collaboration. (Which are equally important for big kids, too!) #g2great
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Q4 Musts- daily read aloud, protected (no pull out/interventions) independent reading time, time to write, time to share and talk about thinking #G2Great
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4: Independent choice reading, student voice and choice, teacher led professional development, collaboration between colleagues, #g2great
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4. Read alouds and TIME to read and write are musts for sure. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Thanks, @shfarnsworth #G2Great
  • NancyTucc Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4: Interactive read alouds, the great equalizer. #G2GREAT
  • CRCarter313 Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    SAFE! ❤️ @teacher2teacher Create a culture of acceptance, love, and open communication! #KidsDeserveIt #TeachBetter #G2Great #TLAP
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A 4 My musts are independent reading of self selected books, daily teacher read aloud, choices in instructional reading of trade books. #g2great
  • tanyalh7 Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4 Must have...independent reading time, choice of books, small groups #g2great
  • DoctorSam7 Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    @mindi_r CHOICE is soooooo crucial. Choice leads to motivation and engagement. The new great debate in reading needs to center on the issues of engagement an creating LIFELONG readers. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Lean in and LISTEN! YES! #g2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4 Read aloud, shared reading, guided reading, independent reading, writing workshop w/ independent writing & guided writing, & interactive/shared writing. Deepen understanding about math, science, social studies, social/emotional skills through writing & great books! #G2GREAT
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4 Intentional instructional interventions that are thoughtfully embedded into the entire learning day are absolutely crucial. Sending children someplace else is the LAST resort, not the first. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4: Time to read all types of texts - different lengths, types, shapes, sizes. Time + choice = S independence & an evolving literacy narrative for each kiddo. #g2great
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    #G2Great I love it when I do a read aloud and suddenly the kids are getting that book or other books by that author from the class or school library. It makes me remember how much they are really letting it sink in.
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Yes! Read alouds and such an easy way to knit all the learning together. #G2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4 Richard Allington's 6 elements for every child, every day! Particularly ample time to read books of choice! #G2GREAT
  • OnaFeinberg Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4 Students have the place of honor. I want them to feel safe and known and loved. (And reading, writing, read aloud.... those are nonnegotiable.) #G2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Q5. Say "NO" to: AR Quizes, Round robin reading, whole videos, Whole class all the time, or Cookie cutter work! Say "YES" to mini-lessons, video excerpt or frames, choice, voice & formative work! #G2Great
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Q5: The vast majority of worksheets go in my mental (and literal) trashcans #g2great
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5 We have to be just that; hyper vigalent! We have to be critial consumers of curricular tools and resources. I always put worksheets in my trash can! Mostly, that’s where they belong. Ain’t nobody got time for worksheets! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5 Before we can fill the mental instructional “trash can” we must recognize those things that deserve to go into it first. Teachers pay teachers, fill in the blank, packets of nothing. We must be hypervigilant (or apologize to kids). #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5: Sizing up what work is “skinny” vs. “thick”. Get rid of the work that fill time and space (worksheets with no purpose) and increase work that gives Ss an authentic voice and purpose in the world - real work that lives in the real world. #G2GREAT
  • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A4 I've shared this before, but @regieroutman stated that we must prioritize so time for Ss is spent primarily on authentic tasks that readers and writers engage in. That filter would eliminate a lot of bad practice (or useless, or "cute" Pinteresty tasks). #G2GREAT
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    #G2Great I love this image!!!
    In reply to @drmollyness
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A4: I can’t forget writing!!! #literacymatters #g2great #creativity
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Yes! It is so important to protect independent reading time for ALL students. #g2great
    In reply to @GreeneMachine82
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Q5: Ditch things that aren’t in the best interest of the kids...the living, breathing ones in your room, not the names on a spreadsheet. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5 It’s hard to know what is trivial and time-wasting if we don’t have literacy knowledge that will help us to recognize it. We begin there as we make schoolwide professional learning a priority. #G2Great
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5: I love to change things up. I look back at last year and I don't think I would toss anything out. A few years ago I realized the damage that most programs do. The one sized fits all, the TPT stuff and of course AR those hit the garbage and I lit it on fire. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5. One check: Is this work that real readers and writers do in LIFE? or just in school life? Need to decrease silly school life "stuff"! #G2Great
  • dmaki15 Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Can we please get rid of all and any packets? #G2Great
  • ssvincent Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5. I’d like to see all activities that involve stopwatches (practicing words per minute) tossed in the trash can. #G2Great (I’m late tonight! Sorry!)
  • OnaFeinberg Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Q5 ask “is this a respectful task?” And “does this help my students get from where they are to where they need to be?” #G2Great
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5: Worksheets, projects that are”cute” but have no purpose, assessments used for tracking, but not to inform instruction #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Amen! #NotaSpreadsheet #NOTaDataPoint #g2Great
    • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      Q5: Ditch things that aren’t in the best interest of the kids...the living, breathing ones in your room, not the names on a spreadsheet. #G2Great
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    #G2Great Mic drop a Fran!
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5 We could start by calling publishers to task. We can’t have a knee-jerk reaction and just write a check for empty promises. The stakes are too high to allow anything into our buildings that are not worthy of kids. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    II do like to see Ss using the stopwatch on the Ts mini-lesson. "Time is up!" #G2Great
    In reply to @ssvincent
  • Mrs_Collier525 Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Ouch. This is so true! I find when I haven't planned well, I use inferior filler activities. (But I don't think having fun is ever wasted time!!!!) #g2great
    • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 8:43 PM EDT
      A1. Cannot ever ask for MORE time if we are NOT wise stewards of the precious time we already have! #G2Great
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    #G2Great Yes, much better than Ts using a stop watch for timing a kid’s reading!!!
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @ssvincent
  • BriareWynn Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A5 - I need to trash my unnecessary, non-meaningful teacher talk. I have to make sure my conversations with students are moving learning forward. Always. #g2great
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    #g2great I had this conversation with my literacy coach this morning as I was hosting a lab in my room. She was pushing me to shorten my mini lesson. I said I needed the time. Guess who was right? She was! 10 minute sweet spot left kids with 110 minutes of reading/writing.
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @ssvincent
  • ssvincent Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    This is worth reading again.... #G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
      A5 It’s hard to know what is trivial and time-wasting if we don’t have literacy knowledge that will help us to recognize it. We begin there as we make schoolwide professional learning a priority. #G2Great
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A5 Attention to national percentiles and rankings that tell me nothing about the reader sitting next to me. #g2great
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A5 We can start by asking ourselves: Is this something I do as a reader/writer? Does this reflect reading and writing that happens in the world outside of school? #g2great
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Q6: When we critically reflect on how we use our time (and the value of each activity), we will be surprised by how much opens up for independent reading. In my dissertation, I found 12% of instructional time was used for transitions! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Q6. Eliminate "Time Wasters" and use time wisely. Set priorities. Stick with them. How do you grow Readers, Writers, & Thinkers? Give them time to be Readers, Writers & Thinkers! #G2Great
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    During my last few years in 2nd grade I worked at decreasing the amt of worksheets I had my students complete especially during literacy center time. #G2GREAT
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    #G2Great And don’t forget our ole friend duct tape for T mouths! LOL
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @ssvincent
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    #G2great A5 isolated skill practice devoid of context and meaning, bell work/worksheet packets/choice menus and projects used as time fillers/killers, truly any practice that isn’t responsive to students needs & lacks meaning or engagement or opp to take ownership & transfer
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A5 Time is tricky. We don’t want time to preempt responding to students’ needs. Each day use of time will vary because our students’ show us when they need interventions, scaffolds, reteaching. #g2great
  • dmaki15 Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A5- Can we please ban packets of any kind? So many obvious reasons why, but mostly because they are so defeating for kids who already take longer than others to finish their “work”. #G2Great
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A5: Also forcing kids to write Using food shaped graphic organizers! #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6: Schedule it! Have your plans say: Students read; teachers meet with Ss in small groups or 1:1 while still prioritizing that everyone has time to read across the workshop, across the day, across the week, across the unit, across the year! #g2great
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6 It’s so simple, MAKE TIME! Authentic reading and writing is key to the development of literate citizens. We owe it to them to give them time to do what truly matters. MAKE TIME! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6 It comes back to putting things into our “instructional trash can” that will not maximize our efforts. We can’t find room to increase the volume of reading if we aren’t willing to get rid of volume sapping time-wasting JUNK. #G2Great
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    #g2great I use the question, “How will this help you grow as a reader or writer?” EVERY DAY in my literacy studio. Kids need to know the answer to the question!
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A5: Paperwork that can wait or be done at home. Sometimes it piles up but I tell myself that time with teachers and students is more important! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I have seen more than that when the whole class "waits" for one child Every Every Every Day! #G2Great
    • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
      Q6: When we critically reflect on how we use our time (and the value of each activity), we will be surprised by how much opens up for independent reading. In my dissertation, I found 12% of instructional time was used for transitions! #g2great
  • JennMBarnes Sep 13 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A5 Although I'm late (#HurricaneFlorence take-over), I've landed at this profound statement. Kids should definitely be about real work that young readers, researchers, writers do! Real life stuff. #G2Great
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • vrkimmel Sep 13 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A5 Trash can--spending too much time on attendance, lunch count, checking homework, basal worksheets, "word-finds", teacher talk that takes up the bulk of learning time, anything that is not authentic reader/writer dispositions and tasks. #G2GREAT
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A6: Just do it! The research will back you up. #g2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Be safe! #G2Great
    In reply to @JennMBarnes
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    #g2great OMG with the word find. Once I really thought about what kids got out of a word find (answer… NOTHING), I stopped giving them. Ashamed to admit they were ever in my classroom in the first place.
    In reply to @vrkimmel
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6 We put experiences that raise volume in the schedule FIRST (ie independent reading, reading/writing workshop etc.) Then we can prioritize and reorganize (or even eliminate) to ensure volume has a place of honor in each day #G2Great
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A5 As an interventionist I am working at making sure that progress monitoring assessments don't steal teaching/learning time.#G2GREAT
  • LTastor Sep 13 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6: If we’ve gotten rid of the junk, authentic reading and writing is what we have left! #G2Great
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Training Ts how to schedule time to grade and plan and not do it during class time so they are fully present for Ss but Ts still need to have a life at home too. #G2great
    In reply to @valerietilton
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A6 When something is a personal priority, you find room for it. If we all deepen our understanding of what volumes of reading per day does for children, we will find time for it no matter what. #g2great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    #G2great A6 Based on a convo I had not long ago I’d suggest we must step outside of ourselves and past what we like, what we do, how we learned and recognize while we may enjoy one book at a time, students may differ and should have the right to read many books at a time=volume!
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    #g2great Don’t be ashamed, I think every reflective teacher thinks about things they could have done better. I know I do. It’s a sign that you are continuing to grow and learn as an educator.
    In reply to @mindi_r, @vrkimmel
  • Mrs_Ennis_OMS Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A6 I am really excited to try a Friday writing day. I really want more time for Ss to write and have choice like I give for rdg-so Fridays will now be devoted to writing. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I give that power to Ss all the time - but have them stop me at 8 min. so I can wrap it up! #G2Great
    In reply to @vrkimmel, @ssvincent
  • drmollyness Sep 13 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Q7: This is the focus of my newest book - Every Minute Matters. Can't wait to see your ideas! #everyminutematters #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6 We make texts the professional heartbeat of all we do. We ensure daily choice reading & elevate the role of read-aloud, shared reading/writing & independent reading/writing. Wishing on a volume star won’t get us anywhere. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Data informed decisions are fine. But remembering there is more than ONE way! #G2Great
    • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      #G2great A6 Based on a convo I had not long ago I’d suggest we must step outside of ourselves and past what we like, what we do, how we learned and recognize while we may enjoy one book at a time, students may differ and should have the right to read many books at a time=volume!
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    PERIOD plus !!!!!!!! #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A7 I want to become more intentional about what I am giving time for. I want to help show my Ts that being intentional with your time allocations is important and I want to help them design those allocations for what Ss NEED #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Q7. Lens from Nell Duke: "Would the students be better off reading or writing?" @nellkduke Build a schedule with assemblies no more than 1 x /week. All classes still meet. Shave minutes equally - not whole periods. #G2Great
  • JennMBarnes Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A6 Authentic rdg & wrtg work is the real stuff. Someone on Twitter said that they'd rather be with doctors who had real practice in their education, not those who just read about the work. When I keep elevating real practices to Ps & community, they begin understanding. #G2Great
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Desperately needed! Need any "Don't . . . "? #G2Great
    In reply to @drmollyness
  • mrbgilson Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A6: Cut out the crap, kids don't need to do fill in the blank booklets or endless workbooks. Just stop this nonsense and let kids have a bit of that gained time to read. There is time for more targeted practice but we can spare some to love reading to read. #g2great
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A6: I agree with schedule it in first! When planning think about when and where we can have students authentically reading and writing. Reflecting and revising as the year progresses. #G2Great
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    This is true, though some things feel especially egregious. Wordfinds. “Tell the story of a day in the life of a shoe.” Spending 6 weeks teaching The Giver or The Outsiders. #6weekworksheet #g2great
    In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @vrkimmel
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A6 Look at where you lose time- get rid of mindless busy work, tighten up transition times, make sure students know classroom procedures, be proactive with any behaviorial issues. #G2GREAT
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A7 Awareness is everything. My goal is to help Ts really think about expenditure of time in the day and analyze worthy vs less worthy. With only so many minutes in a day, honesty is key! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Ah, yes. Still remember 13 weeks on Gone With the Wind. I was done during week 1. And that was DECADES ago! Scarred for life! #G2Great #NoPackets
    In reply to @mindi_r, @donohoe_kitty, @vrkimmel
  • GreeneMachine82 Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A7: I want to be able to pinpoint the why- what is the purpose of this- and try to eliminate any practices that don’t have a meaningful reason. #G2Great
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    #g2great A7: I want to be better at planning my invitational groups. This is the weakest spot in my literacy studio. I have student work to guide my instruction, but my groups last too long.
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    #G2Great I cringe when I think of some things I’ve learned not to do as an educator. All of us have those memories, it’s part of being human. I think the most important thing is kindness and an open mind to learn. All of us cringe I think over some T practices.
    In reply to @mindi_r, @vrkimmel
  • johnnydowney Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Great advice great question! Love this! #g2great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @nellkduke
  • genarcovio Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A7 Protect instructional time from distractions with a flexible approach to scheduling #g2great
  • LRobbTeacher Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    And that’s all you need plus knowledgeable and caring teachers. #g2great
    In reply to @LTastor
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Yes, important to learn and keep growing. I think all the time each day of things I could have done better. 😊#G2Great
    In reply to @vrkimmel, @mindi_r
  • mollienye72 Sep 13 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A6:start with the practice of both from day one. Your students will come to understand what you value and begin to keep you accountable! Mine already do. #g2great
  • BriareWynn Sep 13 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7 - treating all instructional time like a Reading Recovery lesson. We should strive to make every prompt, every teacher/student interaction meaningful. Intentional, informed organization of the entire school day. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7 We can’t ask Ts to use instructional time in professionally responsive & responsible ways if we’re mandating JUNK. We need to have hard conversations about what we value and evidence that our values are at the forefront. #G2Great
  • DoctorSam7 Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    @franmcveigh Be wary of the QUALITY of the data in data based decisions. We need tests that actually test comprehension. We also need to be efficient in making ongoing assessments and most especially not to over test and under teach #G2great.
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I’m too embarrassed to admit so@e of the silly things and mistakes I’ve made. LOL #g2great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @mindi_r, @vrkimmel
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    #G2great A6 Pt 1 Also...books are written to be enjoyed by students not for display in a china cabinet...what better gift could we give a student than a personal favorite...like the velveteen rabbit if it’s enjoyed it will become tattered, if it goes home & doesn’t return...
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A6. I'd love to see Ts trash structured centers with activities for students to complete and papers to fill in. #g2great
  • ShelfieTalk Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7 Being more intentional. Asking “What is my purpose here?” and “How will I know if I’m getting there?” #G2GREAT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    No more junk. Thoughtful reflection. Plan Prioritize Continually work to do better . . WHY this today? Right now? For whom? #g2Great
  • LiteracyPages Sep 13 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I ❤️ that! #G2great
    In reply to @BriareWynn
  • juliewright4444 Sep 13 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Me too…out with the centers that keep Ss busy. #G2GREAT
    • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
      A6. I'd love to see Ts trash structured centers with activities for students to complete and papers to fill in. #g2great
  • dmaki15 Sep 13 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A7: Put the needs of children before the comfort of adults. #G2Great
  • valerietilton Sep 13 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Thank you so much #G2great and @franmcveigh for a terrific chat! The wisdom of this group is infinitesimal!!
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A7 Three Plus years ago, “focusing on the literacy work that matters” gave rise to this chat. #G2Great will continue to support from-the-heart conversations in the name of teachers & kids. We are so grateful to each of you!
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    YEP! We've all had those OOPS . . .so won't do that again! #G2Great
    In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @mindi_r, @vrkimmel
  • LiteracyCoachKS Sep 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    #G2great A6 Pt well...now the S has a new best friend at home. Books are replaceable but moments that inspire and engage readers & writers in a ❤️ for literacy are priceless! #Shareyourbooks
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    #G2Great I’ll tell you mine in person! Too embarrassed to say on Twitter LOL!!!!
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @mindi_r, @vrkimmel
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    #g2great Entire premise on growing responsive, thoughtful, reflective Ts. TY @DrMaryHoward
  • NancyTucc Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    And HOW will this get Ss to the goal #G2GREAT
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • JennMBarnes Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A7 Continue listening and learning from my kids. Reading & Writing Workshops are their favorite times of the day. Period. If I were to try to shorten or skip any part, they'd take a stand. I must continue taking a stand for them. #G2Great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy, @hayhurst3
  • mindi_r Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Over drinks in Houston in November? :-) #g2great
    In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @franmcveigh, @vrkimmel
  • lisahburns Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Would add that we need to train Ts to trust their intuition a bit. so much of teaching and understanding what a student needs become intuitive when we gain experience. #G2great
    In reply to @DoctorSam7, @franmcveigh
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Yes, validating observational & formative data. What are kids really doing. Not silly stuff. #G2Great
    In reply to @DoctorSam7
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Please join #G2Great for part 2 of our new series. Next week we look at Classroom Design and how it can maximize our potential. @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy https://t.co/hQ4tKbLHvZ
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    YES! We need to make this happen! #G2Great
    In reply to @mindi_r, @donohoe_kitty, @vrkimmel
  • donohoe_kitty Sep 13 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Oh how I wish I could go to NCTE- maybe next year. That’s what you are talking about right? But I hope we can meet in person soon and have a great chat! 😊 #G2Great
    In reply to @mindi_r, @franmcveigh, @vrkimmel
  • franmcveigh Sep 13 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Thank you, #G2Great family, For your wisdom & participation in our inaugural chat for this series! @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy @hayhurst3