#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.

Monday February 4, 2019
8:00 PM EST

  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi Susan! Yeah, Gaga did an excellent SSB. One of the few singers in recent memory to do it in 3/4 #musedchat
    In reply to @susan_turnquist
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 4 @ 8:02 PM EST
    #musedchat I'm Sandra in San Antonio, and my dream halftime show would be one that is mostly boring, to give us all a chance to get up, stretch, take a potty break, refill our plates/glasses w/o missing a thing!
    In reply to @jguarr
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    #musedchat Hi from Washington! K-6 music teacher here. My dream halftime show is Taylor Swift and/or Bastille (though I know they're not big enough).
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Kelsey, K-5 teacher. I don't really care too much about the halftime show headlines, I'd be happy with a marching band. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi Sandra, good evening to you. Thought the game last night offered plenty of chances to get up and stretch without missing anything big :D #musedchat
    In reply to @DoReMiDivnick
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Welcome to the chat! Bastille would be fantastic #musedchat
    In reply to @LindsayLuft
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Hi Kelsey, welcome. I think the Minnesota super bowl last year (?) featured the UofMinnesota marching band quite a bit. Hope that catches on #musedchat
    In reply to @SchmutzerMusic
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Joe from Metro Detroit, 7/8 band and music tech. Was desperately hoping for a surprise Outkast reunion last night. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Q1 on the way shortly #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Q1: What makes an outstanding SSB performance in your opinion? Do you consider yourself a traditionalist, or are you open to creative interpretations? #musedchat
  • kellyapetro Feb 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Hi Kelly from Rochester NY 4-6 Vocal General #musedchat
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: I'm more of a traditionalist. I expect a solo singer not to embellish a lot (if any), and traditional harmony if it's a group. #MusEdChat
    • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
      Q1: What makes an outstanding SSB performance in your opinion? Do you consider yourself a traditionalist, or are you open to creative interpretations? #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Good to see you Kelly, welcome! #musedchat
    In reply to @kellyapetro
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: I think overall just good technique and trying to enhance the song not yourself. It's not about you in this moment! Then again, Whitney's is one of my favs so I'm fairly traditional. Loved Gladys! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1: Not a huge fan of excessive embellishment, but I do enjoy some fresh harmonies. I really enjoyed John Williams' arrangement. https://t.co/Jl5LTS7qXY #musedchat
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 4 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A1: I am a fan of tuneful, evocative singing. When I teach the song, I teach the roots (to Anacreon/battle of Ft. McHenry), as well as stylized renditions. So long as it's in tune and is sung intelligently & emotionally, I'm down! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • kellyapetro Feb 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1: I don't mind when an artist puts their own stamp on it, but within reason. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Q2: Favorite anthem performance that everybody else might not be familiar with? What speaks to you about that particular performance? #musedchat
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: I'll lean on others to recommend! I liked the arrangements my HS and MS did, but haven't listened to enough solo performances. #musedchat
  • Peetafan7 Feb 4 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A1: I like a moving solo rendition with a touch of interpretation and not too many melismas. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: My favorite one to teach is by a group called Mix'd Co (and now Google has NO idea who I'm talking about!! They must have disbanded.) They arranged it in 4/4, sang it a capella, and included beat boxing. It really keeps the kids' attention. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • BandDirectorsA1 Feb 4 @ 8:23 PM EST
    #musedchat The song doesn't stretch much farther than this: https://t.co/4LQndTMSKH
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Reminds me of Jose Feliciano https://t.co/PDnfpocHch #musedchat
    In reply to @BandDirectorsA1
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2.2: I don't have a particular favorite just for the sake of listening. It seems a bit odd to have a favorite of song "owned" by so many people. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • skootergordon Feb 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A1: Ttaditionalist. Give me a band with a good arrangement and a more up-beat tempo. It’s our anthem, not a dirge. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • themusicweaver Feb 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A2: Love Jose Feliciano's and,of course, Whitney Houston's. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Whitney Houston's still stands up almost 30 years later #musedchat
    In reply to @themusicweaver
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Bookmarking all these performances to watch later! Thanks! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Related question: Why do so many vocalists choose to do it in four instead of three? #musedchat
  • themusicweaver Feb 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Yep, it was controversial at the time but I think we can now appreciate the joy of his performance. Almost breathtaking... #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @BandDirectorsA1
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 4 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A2: No favorite version here that people don't know. Arturo Sandoval did a great trumpet version. #musedchat
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Unsure! But my guess would be that they want to turn it into more of a performance than the requirement it is for a lot of events. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 4 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Hey Everyone! Sorry for the late start! My names Kyle, I’m a trumpet player and instructor from Texas! #sp19edfb4338 #musedchat
  • faizasaleh_ Feb 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Hey everyone! I’m a music ed major over at UT Tyler! This is my first ed chat so I’m really excited! #musedchat #sp19edfb4338
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    As usual, the Simpsons were ahead of their time with regards to embellishments during the SSB https://t.co/9LRdEx88KU #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Welcome to the chat Kyle, glad you could join us #musedchat
    In reply to @KyleBen74413497
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us tonight Tyler, welcome #musedchat
    In reply to @faizasaleh_
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Q3: How old were you when you learned about the other verses to the Star Spangled Banner? How would you approach analyzing them in a classroom setting? #musedchat https://t.co/l6g9fd1uBI
  • twkellyMRES Feb 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A2: I really like Marvin Gaye's version! It was so smooth! #musedchat
  • BandDirectorsA1 Feb 4 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Ok this one .... you have to listen for yourself. .... #musedchat https://t.co/IpAHx0Byy0
  • inthemiddlewith Feb 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    I think it's time to give away the MEGA Bundle of the S-Cubed Sight Singing System. Enter here: https://t.co/cr61CEMlhh #musedchat
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A3: I learned about the other verses last year! It would be a great vocabulary lesson for students, the first verse alone has a lot of unfamiliar words. I want my students to know what they're singing if they're performing for others. #musedchat
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A3: Didn't know about the other verses until I was out of college. I don't teach them or analyze them in my setting. We do a big unit in 4th grade and understanding the language and singing well is enough. #musedchat
  • skootergordon Feb 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A3: I think it was 5th grade, when social studies was dedicated to US history that year. We didn’t really sing them, but talked about the significance. I’d use a similar approach now, and address how events affect music: political, protest, folk songs. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • twkellyMRES Feb 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A3: I was in middle school when I heard the other verses. In elementary, I focus a lot on only the first verse because of the language of the day and they don't know much beyond the opening line. #musedchat
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:38 PM EST
    I have a colleague who uses "America" to teach about protest songs, and then write a protest verse on a subject the 5th grade S's choose! #musedchat
    In reply to @skootergordon, @jguarr
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A3: While I'm sure I knew there were more verses, I never really looked at them until I started teaching them - which is also precisely when I STOPPED teaching them. Now, I mention that more verses exist, but we don't spend another iota of time on them. #OldWounds #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • dan_austin76 Feb 4 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A1. Canadian 👍 #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3 I think it may have been in high school or later...some of the language in the verses might seem vague to modern students, not sure how I'd approach it with them #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Lol definitely read that in an accent #musedchat
    In reply to @dan_austin76
  • faizasaleh_ Feb 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Q 2, Beyonce Super Bowl XXXVIII!! I love her artistry. #Sp19EDFB4338 #MusEdChat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A3 : In all seriousness I was today years old when I found out about other verses. I’ve only ever played the verses that are commonly sung, I had no idea! #sp19edfb4338 #MusEdChat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Wonder if any artist would consider performing that 3rd verse as a political statement, sort of like how Childish Gambino took on minstrelsy, etc in This Is America #musedchat
  • faizasaleh_ Feb 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A 1 A 1, definitely traditionalist! My ideal arrangement would be a 3 part trumpet choir! #Sp19EDFB4338 #MusEdChat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Love a true "TIL" moment! The context for those verses is definitely complicated though... #musedchat
    In reply to @KyleBen74413497, @jguarr
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A2: Arturo Sandoval’s performance, hands down the best display of the SSB I’ve ever heard. #sp19edfb4338 #MusEdChat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • faizasaleh_ Feb 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A 2, Beyonce Super Bowl XXXVIII!! I love her artistry. #Sp19EDFB4338 #MusEdChat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • faizasaleh_ Feb 4 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A 1, definitely traditionalist! My ideal arrangement would be a 3 part trumpet choir! #Sp19EDFB4338 #MusEdChat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Would a trombone quartet be an acceptable substitute? https://t.co/JRjcVf2ZAf #musedchat
    In reply to @faizasaleh_
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    In general, I tend to be a fan of anthem performances that reflect the musical heritage of the performers and their cities, like Dr. John/Aaron Neville/Aretha Franklin https://t.co/AnJgJWVkuH #musedchat
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 4 @ 8:52 PM EST
    #musedchat Sorry late. Kathy from MI K-8 gen mus & band. A3: we’ve done 3 v in 5/6 class Love the videos tonight!!
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Good to see you Kathy, welcome #musedchat
    In reply to @Muzzikkatt
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    ...but it's also hard to argue with anything that the President's Own does: https://t.co/p0wCU2CGRQ #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Feb 4 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Question for #musedchat since you’re discussing it tonight... what do you do for Ss who can’t learn the SSB bc of their religious beliefs? What’s your justification for continuing to teach it?
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:56 PM EST
    We've had a couple JWs in our marching band. They respectfully stand at attention when we perform it during pregame. Teaching/performing it remains an expectation in the world of athletic bands. #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch
  • LindsayLuft Feb 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    I still teach it as part of an American education. However if they cannot stay in the room while we're teaching it, I try to have a vocabulary sheet of the words I'd be explaining to the S's still in the room. #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    allow those children who choose to not sing it to skip those questions on the test. Generally, they are willing to accept that as a compromise. #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    And as for learning about in a classroom setting...there are hundreds of high quality performances for us to analyze the musical elements of, for us to compare/contrast. Often those students are free to learn about it the history and musical elements, but not perform #musedchat
    In reply to @GrubersOrch
  • GrubersOrch Feb 4 @ 8:58 PM EST
    As a string teacher of many JW students I wrestle a lot with the “why am I really teaching this” question. Good answer! I don’t ever have the “athletics” reason. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • EthanDa40811167 Feb 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    A1- I'm pretty open to creative interpretation, as long as it is tastefully done... and intonation is good. Honestly I was pleased with this years SB SSB, which I typically am not. #musedchat #sp19edfb4338
    In reply to @jguarr
  • GrubersOrch Feb 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    This is extremely inclusive. Thank you! #Musedchat
    In reply to @LindsayLuft