#G2Great Archive
This chat is dedicated to continuing the conversation about teacher reflection it's based on Dr. Mary Howard's book Good to Great Teaching.
Thursday March 10, 2016
8:35 PM EST
Teach1024
Mar 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
Tara, literacy teacher from Columbia, PA! Excited for another chat!
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dubioseducator
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Faige retired kinder teacher from Los Angeles. A nice day at LACMA for me
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1 Book selection decisions are grounded in the needs of THAT child at THAT moment. Flexibility at its best!
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
@franmcveigh
Yep seeing my Long Island friends tomorrow :}
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RACzyz
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Rich from PA/NJ. Will be in and out tonight! Baths and Bedtime!
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1:Levels help Ts place Ss at their *instructional* level in order to deliver purposeful guided instruction in small groups
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dylanteut
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Fountas and Pinnell said at ILA this past summer that levels are being used in ways that they never intended them to be.
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DrMaryHoward
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Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
@Teach1024
Thanks for joining us Tara!
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Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
@ZoeRyderWhite
Me, too! And so excited about
@MrazKristine
new text supporting play. Can't wait!
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litlearningzone
Mar 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1. Leveled text is one tool to use to teach and reach readers necessary reading behaviors to be successful
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
@dylanteut
We've got to give our teachers the professional learning opportunities to better understand using leveled texts
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suzrolander
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
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hello friends! Susie joining from Manhattan
dylanteut
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Levels are for guided reading/small groups, and THAT'S IT!
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gallianstone
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Leveled texts are one way for students to more independently access literature and curriculum content.
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1: leveled texts is comparable to being in a batting cage. It's the warm-up, where you practice skills; where you learn.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1 Leveled texts level the playing field for Ss if we know how to use them. Flex a range of text bands to match intention
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hayhurst3
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Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
@suzrolander
Great to see you Susie
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MrazKristine
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
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leveled bks are just one tool in an arsenal to teach reading
room20awesome
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1 leveled text can be a tool to assists in focussed instruction on specific areas where growth and practice are needed.
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ChristinaNosek
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
I like this analogy!
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1: leveled texts is comparable to being in a batting cage. It's the warm-up, where you practice skills; where you learn.
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Teach1024
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
Leveled Texts help scaffold instruction. They can help support instruction during guided reading so Ss can apply skills in Ind Rdg
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AaronHesjedal
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1: Levels allow Ts a way to match their Ss with instructionally appropriate texts for small group learning (with flexibility).
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
@suzrolander
Hi Susie! Good to see you again!
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LisaEickholdt
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1: Actually I think leveled text often is the only tool used to create small groups. This is problematic.
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TracyLafreniere
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1: Leveled texts are used as an extension of teacher support to lift the level of student performance
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dubioseducator
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
Level quandary important topic. Are we limiting our kids? And why?
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My balancing act not always successful.
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franmcveigh
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1: When used as text band like C-D-E, leveled texts can be helpful for increasing the volume of "eyes on print" for fluency!
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1: when the strat is introduced, then let the batter face different pitchers/texts to use the skill.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1 Start w/the child not the book. What does THIS child need & what book will help me meet that need (level or not)
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
@LisaEickholdt
Yes, especially when the groups remain static.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Yes Aaron, I love that you added the key word: FLEXIBILITY. That makes it a powerful scaffold!
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AaronHesjedal
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1: Levels allow Ts a way to match their Ss with instructionally appropriate texts for small group learning (with flexibility).
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dylanteut
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Levels were meant to help the teacher, not to be conveyed to students!
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oolalume
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Gaby from IL, elem librarian K-5
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
@ChristinaNosek
Thanks! Tis the season. The weather brings it out.
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MrsSWadsworth
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Sarah from PA jumping in! Very interesting topic tonight!
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jdolci
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Justin checking in from Louisville! Sorry for the late entrance.
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ToriBachman
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
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Tori in Maine, hopping in and out! Happy to see so many friends here...huge important topic.
litlearningzone
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Yes! This is a big concern and stagnant groupings!
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LisaEickholdt
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1: Actually I think leveled text often is the only tool used to create small groups. This is problematic.
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hayhurst3
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Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
@ZoeRyderWhite
Hi Zoe how have you been?
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So nice to have you with us.
Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1. Levels are a teacher's tool for efficiently finding texts that will lift the independent level just a notch.
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Exactly!!!
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1 Start w/the child not the book. What does THIS child need & what book will help me meet that need (level or not)
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franmcveigh
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Like that metaphor - batting cage - warm up. I just used "free throw practice"
@chrisp16
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
@jdolci
It’s called FASHIONABLY late!
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Litlovegal1
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
So valuable when Ts are given professional opportunities on how to use leveled texts w Ss
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
@dylanteut
We've got to give our teachers the professional learning opportunities to better understand using leveled texts
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
@oolalume
Welcome Gaby we are talking level texts tonight.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
@ToriBachman
Thanks for coming Tori!
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Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1. Levels were never meant to be stamped on foreheads as a "stop sign".
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
@franmcveigh
Great minds!
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Lau7210
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1: Instructional Levels: for Ts to instruct sm groups based on Ss individual goals. Keep groups fluid, flexible & dynamic.
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franmcveigh
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
AMEN - not the ONE and only tool! so very important!
@MrazKristine
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
Love those descriptors Lauren (and can’t wait to see you tomorrow friend!)
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Lau7210
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1: Instructional Levels: for Ts to instruct sm groups based on Ss individual goals. Keep groups fluid, flexible & dynamic.
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MoneoShannon
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1- Levelled texts are oneway for teachers to match text to Ss needs for small group instruction, but should not be the only way.
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suzrolander
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
@girlworld4
am juggling too...ugh. 2 hungry bunnies, 1 girl with fraction hw and 2 older girls...trying
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
@suzrolander
Two chats in a week, Susie! You're superwoman :) I'm juggling dinner at the moment, plus eyeing the ILAchat w/jenn serravallo
AaronHesjedal
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
@DrMaryHoward
We need to make thoughtful decisions about texts. Levels can help that process, however, they can't do it for us.
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oolalume
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
From CCSS: choose text based on Purpose, Quantity & Quality
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1 Start w/the child not the book. What does THIS child need & what book will help me meet that need (level or not)
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ChristinaNosek
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
So wise, my friend. Sadly, it happens. Breaks my heart.
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Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1. Levels were never meant to be stamped on foreheads as a "stop sign".
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Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
@Litlovegal1
Yes. Leveled texts have a place in a wide range of texts across the literacy framework and day.
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brennanamy
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Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
A1 We must BROADEN our view of small groups. Levels have a place in the right situation but thoughtful decision-making trumps all.
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room20awesome
Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
A1 being flexible allows us to focus on individual growth, needs, interest—use all tools n toolbox—to create buy in and excitement!
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pattyvreilly
Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
A1: Levels are one tool that help us see where students can read (ind. inst). We level texts, NOT students.
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KristinHanna2
Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
Just left
#ILAchat
to check out
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for the first time. MS Literacy Specialist from WI.
franmcveigh
Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
This drives me CRAZY - love book clubs for strategy work not leveled text!
@LisaEickholdt
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DrMaryHoward
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Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
Yes & what we use at a given time always depends on our purpose & the readers in front of us
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MrazKristine
Mar 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
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leveled bks are just one tool in an arsenal to teach reading
hayhurst3
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Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
@Lau7210
that is it Lauren you said this so beautifully
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MrsSWadsworth
Mar 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
A1 levels should only be a small part of how Ss are grouped. Also need to look at writing & word study. Groups must b flexible
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brennanamy
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Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q2:
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EdCampBROOKLYN
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
Chat salad!
#BBDetails
#ILAchat
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and on the horizon
#ChristianEducators
LOVIN it!
Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@franmcveigh
@MrazKristine
Yes. Leveled texts are screwdrivers. But we need hammers and pliers and saws as well.
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Lisa_Dastous
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
Levels help the T find a starting point for the Ss, but Ss need not know because it creates a mental wall on allowing growth.
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@Kari_Yates
That just breaks my heart when Ss are prevented from rdg other texts b/c it isn't their level.
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sparka_julie
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
Yes.😊 By investing Ss we can make more skillful coaching moves to accelerate growth and joy in learning!
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1 Start w/the child not the book. What does THIS child need & what book will help me meet that need (level or not)
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@franmcveigh
@LisaEickholdt
@JSerravallo
's Reading Strategies book is a great companion to support Ts w/this!
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oolalume
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
A2: larger class sizes, lack of time to conference w Ss, not knowing any other way
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dubioseducator
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
Yes but how often do we tell students which bin to get books from. That good fit book can stop motivation
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Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1. Levels were never meant to be stamped on foreheads as a "stop sign".
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
Agreed Chris and that was never the intent. That view reflect that it has morphed into something else
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@Kari_Yates
That just breaks my heart when Ss are prevented from rdg other texts b/c it isn't their level.
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dylanteut
Mar 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
Classroom libraries should not be leveled. We limit choice and freedom. Bookstores and other libraries aren't leveled.
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DrMaryHoward
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Mar 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
A2 Doing w/o thinking. If our discussions @ guided rdg reside SOLELY in the use of levels, we rob kids of alternatives.
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dylanteut
Mar 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
When we tell students their levels, we are really crippling them.
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suzrolander
Mar 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
Agreed Dani. I LOVE this book! And, many ts I have worked with can use it right away...not overwhelming
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@franmcveigh
@LisaEickholdt
@JSerravallo
's Reading Strategies book is a great companion to support Ts w/this!
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Mar 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
Fountas & Pinnel said they are aware of no research that shows any benefit to doing so Dylan.
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dylanteut
Mar 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
When we tell students their levels, we are really crippling them.
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oolalume
Mar 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
agreed :(
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chrisp16
Mar 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@Kari_Yates
That just breaks my heart when Ss are prevented from rdg other texts b/c it isn't their level.
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girlworld4
Mar 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2 When Ts lose sight of Ss as individual readers w/individual needs groups stay static.Use r/records keeps focus on each S's needs
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dylanteut
Mar 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
When we tell Ss that they can only choose books from their level, and other Ss see them picking books, we are violating privacy.
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hayhurst3
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Mar 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
@DrMaryHoward
so right Mary a level is a way to support and stretch not to retain and label
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Kari_Yates
Mar 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2. When we lock kids into "the level" we limit their sense of possible as readers.
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gallianstone
Mar 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
Ss do not march through reading levels - They follow interests, moods, attention, as do of us, when it comes to reading choices
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litlearningzone
Mar 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2 Teach the reader -- think about student goals (Thanks
@JSerravallo
! &
#ILAchat
) Love
@FountasPinnell
Continuum for planning.
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