#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday May 23, 2016
3:00 PM EDT
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:01 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@oboelizzy
@theASE
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only warranted if there was a birthday involved?!
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:05 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@oboelizzy
@theASE
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just wondering, anyone tuning in for a first time tonight, feel free to say hi
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:07 PM EDT
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apologies to anyone checking us out tonight, but feel free to share an issue re science education this moment, no promises answer
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:09 PM EDT
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what should we be exploring tonight or on the future? Raise the concerns etc
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:11 PM EDT
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are you a ks2 sci sample school this year? Concerned/ ready?
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:12 PM EDT
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have you seen exemplification material? What do you reckon? Useful?
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:12 PM EDT
@notanearlybird7
@ViciaScience
@oboelizzy
@theASE
just add
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oboelizzy
May 23 @ 3:13 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
@notanearlybird7
@ViciaScience
@theASE
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oops always forget that!
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:14 PM EDT
@notanearlybird7
easy to delete extra tags but add
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in message somewhere , hi welcome
notanearlybird7
May 23 @ 3:15 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
OK, thanks!
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:16 PM EDT
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go on be a devil, take a chance ask something
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:17 PM EDT
@notanearlybird7
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there you go almost got the whole hang of it
ASPIRES2science
May 23 @ 3:17 PM EDT
20% of the Y11 pupils we surveyed thought that scientists spend most of the time working alone
#SciComm
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https://t.co/Y1CfHDB7UK
notanearlybird7
May 23 @ 3:17 PM EDT
@oboelizzy
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Hi Liz:) Don't worry! I need a few minutes to figure it all out so I don't really mind :)
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:18 PM EDT
@ASPIRES2science
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almost feels that way tonight as well
oboelizzy
May 23 @ 3:19 PM EDT
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- where is everyone? The one night when I make an effort to be around again and no one's here!!!
ljrn42
May 23 @ 3:19 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
oh go on then Steve. new GCSE - do 6mq still exist or have they gone ?
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:20 PM EDT
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any other science at
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first Saturday in Sheffield, we played a part and in follow on at Bath Spa
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:21 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
I know it came up last week, bit how much change will we in Sec see from the KS2 changes?
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:22 PM EDT
@ljrn42
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afraid we need a GCSE geek to reply anyone help?
ljrn42
May 23 @ 3:23 PM EDT
@ASPIRES2science
@stevethedoc1
so how can we change this perception?
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SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:24 PM EDT
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
I thought they were gone from A level, but have just become spag instead of qwc!
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dave2004b
May 23 @ 3:24 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
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@ljrn42
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- Yes, Level of Response questions (6 marks) still in GCSE sciences.
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:24 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
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hope greater depth in specific topics area more awareness of some new areas & even stronger working scientifically
oboelizzy
May 23 @ 3:25 PM EDT
@ljrn42
@ASPIRES2science
@stevethedoc1
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increase focus on HSW and philosophy of sci?
edubabbIe
May 23 @ 3:25 PM EDT
Classrooms as contexts for art curriculum.
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:25 PM EDT
@dave2004b
@ljrn42
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many thanks
priscigeeks
May 23 @ 3:25 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
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#LearningFirst
me! Was great to see you Steve. I met a sec sci colleague in my pm workshops don't know his name tho
dave2004b
May 23 @ 3:25 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
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focus is more on the coherence of the answer than SPaG.
doc_kristy
May 23 @ 3:26 PM EDT
@dave2004b
@SteveTeachPhys
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
they migrated into A-level just to give me a big marking headache...
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
May 23 @ 3:26 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
@ljrn42
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they do but seem to be more focused on scientific literacy and quality of argument than simply QWC
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:27 PM EDT
@ljrn42
@ASPIRES2science
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more ops to collaborate, saw today in example Y6 conference presentation
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:27 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
will the working scientifically be using the ind., control etc variable language that we use?
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doc_kristy
May 23 @ 3:27 PM EDT
@dave2004b
@SteveTeachPhys
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
I hate 'level of response' questions... Or rather mark schemes.. Ofqual's fault
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notanearlybird7
May 23 @ 3:28 PM EDT
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Hi Everyone! I'm looking for the science comics Selenia online. I'd appreciate your help:) thanks
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:28 PM EDT
@dave2004b
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
"quality of written communication" then!!!!
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:28 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
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in fair test enquiries should be but also range of enquiry types, despite exemplification materials
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
May 23 @ 3:29 PM EDT
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
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top tip. Really get to grips with the AOs and not just the content statements. That's how they'll be assessed
teacherchalky1
May 23 @ 3:29 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
@stevethedoc1
I think so, and there is a greater emphasis on experimental data analysis
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:30 PM EDT
@notanearlybird7
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sorry forgot to check this earlier today for you hope a response in next 30 mins
dave2004b
May 23 @ 3:31 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
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The key point is that the science determines the level and quality of the response...
dave2004b
May 23 @ 3:31 PM EDT
@dave2004b
@SteveTeachPhys
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
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... determines the mark within the level.
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:32 PM EDT
@doc_kristy
@dave2004b
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
oh I so agree,
#ifIhadwantedtodothatI
'dhavetaughtEnglish
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:34 PM EDT
@notanearlybird7
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Google 'selina science comic' get to STEM science for West of England resource
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:34 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
"range of enquiry types" just seems unnecessary complication to me as a physicist!
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dave2004b
May 23 @ 3:35 PM EDT
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https://t.co/A8vaOa0V0M
dave2004b
May 23 @ 3:34 PM EDT
@doc_kristy
@SteveTeachPhys
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
they can be very effective at differentiating students
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:35 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
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so are all physics enquiries simply 'fair tests'?
doc_kristy
May 23 @ 3:36 PM EDT
@dave2004b
@SteveTeachPhys
@ljrn42
@stevethedoc1
mark schemes are often poorly planned/shoehorned in after...
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SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:36 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
at school, yep
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primary_sci
May 23 @ 3:38 PM EDT
Year 4 creating their own classification keys and justifying choice today
#scipri
#primaryrocks
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https://t.co/ElNTOSxbrj
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:38 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
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ok so challenge request examples of physics non fair tests please!!!!
notanearlybird7
May 23 @ 3:39 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
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It does come up now that I added STEM to the search box! Thanks!!!
dave2004b
May 23 @ 3:40 PM EDT
@doc_kristy
of course, MSs are finalised at standardisation after senior examiners look at candidate responses
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:40 PM EDT
@notanearlybird7
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great
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:43 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
although "good experiment", better, even P can be hard to shoehorn into "fair test" model, trivial control variables
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:44 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
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how about enquiries in the Space area , always fair tests?
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
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suspect ops for obs over time, research,even problem solving , class and is
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:48 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
Astro gcse had to be rewritten because the HSW the consultation proposed didn't work, no experiments on stars!
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:48 PM EDT
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just 10 mins of improv night, think careful last chance to ask tonight, burning issue! small audience, go on be brave
SteveTeachPhys
May 23 @ 3:50 PM EDT
@stevethedoc1
but there's so much out there a big enough telescope can probably find several natural tests of your theory
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stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:50 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
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such a shame check twinkle mission might that help?
notanearlybird7
May 23 @ 3:56 PM EDT
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I'd like to invite (free) speakers to our school.Scientists who would be happy to talk to the children about their work.
notanearlybird7
May 23 @ 3:57 PM EDT
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140 characters is a real challenge for me :D any suggestions for the above? Thank you!
stevethedoc1
May 23 @ 3:58 PM EDT
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closing moments tonight, thanks to participants, hope Qs answered, come back next week, careful Bank holiday Monday crowd in June?
physicsgirluk
May 23 @ 3:59 PM EDT
@alokjha
@BBCFOUR
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BBC4 now!