#425chat Archive

This is a chat for football coaches to discuss the 4-2-5 defense on Thursday at 8PM CT
Thursday January 5, 2017
10:00 PM EST
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:00 PM EST
    welcome coach #425chat
    In reply to @Coach_JGill
  • CoachHolst Jan 5 @ 10:00 PM EST
    #425chat Michael Holst Head Coach/AD @TokayFootball
    In reply to @TokayFootball
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:01 PM EST
    Welcome coach #425chat
  • CoachBicker Jan 5 @ 10:01 PM EST
    Bill Bicker, Head Coach Plainfield South High School #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:01 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:03 PM EST
    2 minute warning until question number 1! #425chat
  • CoachAltmanWM Jan 5 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Rob Altman DL West Memphis AR #425chat
  • thomps_03 Jan 5 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Ryan Thompso HC/DC Ashland-Greenwood Ashland, NE #425chat
  • CoachJoshHadden Jan 5 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Josh Hadden. HC @ Aiken Middle School in Aiken, SC #425chat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 5 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Ben Clubb, Linebackers Coach at Balko HS (OK) I'm a 3-4 coach, so I'll treat this as a 3-4 nickel look 😂#425chat
  • CoachHesterSMHS Jan 5 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Chance Hester. LB Coach. St. Michael. Baton Rouge, LA. #425Chat
  • CoachKizer Jan 5 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Chris Kizer. DC/D Line. Arkadelphia, AR #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:04 PM EST
    haha anything we got to do to get better! #425chat
    In reply to @BenClubb32
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Chris Prewett DC Johns Creek HS GA #425chat
  • CoachGibson5 Jan 5 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Marcus Gibson DC Jackson, MS #425chat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Greg Wallis Tuttle, ok #425chat
  • CoachWoot1 Jan 5 @ 10:07 PM EST
    A1: we can line up in a three low covg with the weak safety and Rover wall off #2 on each side #425chat
  • coach_kleinhans Jan 5 @ 10:07 PM EST
    Ben Kleinhans Head Coach Metea Valley HS- Illinois #425chat
  • CoachWoot1 Jan 5 @ 10:08 PM EST
    A1: we align to the field where I'm at now. Before that to the Y, if even to the F in DBLS, if balanced to the QB throwing hand #425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:09 PM EST
    Front: 1. Game Plan Option (Big Tendency). 2. Back Set. 3. Fld/Bnd. DB's: 1. GPO, 2. Back Set, 3. Field/Bnd, 4. QB Arm #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:10 PM EST
    A1: 2 high cover 2 read. Nickel Back set to strength. Call strength based on TE. No TE, call to offset RB. Pistol, call to field. #425chat
  • CoachAltmanWM Jan 5 @ 10:11 PM EST
    A1: we can set our strength to either side. #425chat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 5 @ 10:11 PM EST
    If not in base, usually run over/under look. Base is an Okie look, ends in 4s. Depending on coverage, can roll OLbs or SS on #2 #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:13 PM EST
    Question #2 in 3 minutes! #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:15 PM EST
    Corner is 🔑 Split the diff between 1 and 2. Spend 2/3 of time taking away inside seams, cause ball to travel further to outside WR #425chat
    • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:13 PM EST
      just curious, how do you handle 4 verticals with that alignment
      In reply to @Def425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:16 PM EST
    Q2: If you are 2 hi safeties, what is your "extra" SS rules for where to align? Why? If single hi, explain why #425chat
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:16 PM EST
    cover 3 field dividers would help with that too! Just don't like banking on splitting WR's in coverage!#425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 5 @ 10:17 PM EST
    CODY G DC Park City Even front 2 High #425chat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:17 PM EST
    A1 one back gap out the run game thru movement and relay option resp #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:17 PM EST
    A1. Front is set a. TE. b. Number of receivers. c. Field. Left if balanced and middle of field because most people are right handed #425chat
  • rmacblue Jan 5 @ 10:17 PM EST
    A2: We call the extra guy our "Dude". He goes to predetermined strength/tendency/field..he's our best ATH; can line up on los vs TE #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:18 PM EST
    it's tough, but we rep the HECK OUT OF IT. If you rely on deep ball to win then most teams are outside their wheel house #425chat
    In reply to @caprewett
  • mikestauffer Jan 5 @ 10:19 PM EST
    A2. SS in boundary always opposite Sam. Moving to 2 hi always. Used to roll SS down for C3. #425chat
  • CoachBurkettSHS Jan 5 @ 10:19 PM EST
    @Def425chat Mike Burkett, HC/DC @SoutheasternFB Remlap, AL. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat, @SoutheasternFB
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:20 PM EST
    Are you run and pass strength separate coach? #425chat
    • CoachBehnfeldt Jan 5 @ 10:18 PM EST
      A2: 2-high, usually to passing/run strength, if all things even, then to the field. #425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:20 PM EST
    Back to = OS Leverage #2 up to 7 yd (Run away/RPO To) Back Away = Apex EMOL & #2 (Run To/RPO Away). Pistol = "Back To." #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 5 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A2) Extra is our Sam. 70 tech, apex 2&3, 9 tech against TE. He where a bunch of hates to keep everyone else's job(s) limited. #425chat
  • CoachWoot1 Jan 5 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A2: Rover dictates the strength so if in a 2 high look the Willie is opposite the strength apex emol and #2 #425chat
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A2: Set to strength. Apex EMOL & #2 WR. Can be head up or outside. Takes RB out. Hurts RPO plays/screens. TE, in a 9 tech. #425chat
  • CoachChadJ Jan 5 @ 10:21 PM EST
    @KSL0AN check out #425chat good stuff being talked about
    In reply to @KSL0AN
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:22 PM EST
    Q3 in 3 minutes! #425chat
  • CoachBurkettSHS Jan 5 @ 10:22 PM EST
    A1: We align very similar to 4-4 and check 1, or we drop outsde S for a 2 high look and play "combo" coverage. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CoachHop46 Jan 5 @ 10:22 PM EST
    A2: #425chat
    • CoachHop46 Jan 5 @ 10:20 PM EST
      1 high is base Robber, 2 high both safeties inside of #2 at 8-10 deep. Usually play variation of 1/4s or cov 2 in 2 high look.
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:24 PM EST
    Q3: How do you coach your safeties (contain, spill, force, etc...)? What are their run rules and pass rules in your base coverage? #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:24 PM EST
    Q3 is about how you coach the overhang or SS safety with his responsibilities! #425chat
  • coachjsam Jan 5 @ 10:24 PM EST
    A2: don't have a lot of "extra" rules for kids if you want them to play fast. Don't live & die in 1-high b/c offenses are 2 good #425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:26 PM EST
    */WS Run to = Force (unless C2/Trap) Run Away = CBR (Cutback, Boot, Reverse). FS = Alley. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A3: Love the term FORCE for that player. Force a change in direction implies attacking the blocks as opposed to running to sideline #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A3) 2Read, eyes on 2 for safeties. WS if Force will cross read backs. Try not make WS play immediate force and pass. #425chat
  • CoachCruce Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A3 In 1 high SS and WS are force/contain. 2 high all three are usually inside out spill to sideline #425chat
  • rmacblue Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A3: Like an OLB/SS - vision key is EMOL; pass drop is window/flat in zone; RB if 0, #2 or #3 man otherwise; usually leverage player #425chat
  • CoachHolst Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    #425chat A2: we set our $ to the field if on hash, to passing strength in MOF
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CoachHop46 Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachHop46 Jan 5 @ 10:26 PM EST
      A3: safeties are alley players. They are coached to make OLBs right. Flat footed read #2 come downhill like hair on fire if run read
  • CoachGibson5 Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A3) Over hang is reading the end man triangle which include tackle or TE, QB, and deepest back! One step read for read step! #425chat
  • CoachBurkettSHS Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    Excellent question! Thanks to whomever submitted this! #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CoachSReid Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    #425chat learning lots about coverage and DB play!
  • mikestauffer Jan 5 @ 10:27 PM EST
    Same here. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachGrayvold
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A2: Outside #2 is the general start place of all coverages for overhang Safety #425chat
  • CoachBehnfeldt Jan 5 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A3: SS is a force player and our WS is a force player. SS is like an OLB in our Quarters and WS is like a safety in Quarters .#425chat
  • CoachHolst Jan 5 @ 10:28 PM EST
    #425chat A3: Our Free has alley or Force, our $ has alley or force and our Weak Safety has Force in our base quarters coverage
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CoachBicker Jan 5 @ 10:28 PM EST
    Same #425chat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:28 PM EST
    So a two high look primarily coach with your WS? #425chat
    • CoachBehnfeldt Jan 5 @ 10:28 PM EST
      A3: SS is a force player and our WS is a force player. SS is like an OLB in our Quarters and WS is like a safety in Quarters .#425chat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:29 PM EST
    A3 we grill off visual key Sam and s are clear cleets read off Emol #425chat
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:29 PM EST
    A3: Depends on coverage. Cover 2, alley fill. FS HAS to make nickel back right. He wins outside, fill inside and vise versa. #425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:29 PM EST
    Base w/ * outside 2 = Robber. Will be flat defender. Base w/ * inside 2 = Palms. Will be 2 Curl/Swing/Deep 3 w back to. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CoachCruce Jan 5 @ 10:30 PM EST
    A3 cont. All read EMOL in 2 high for run/pass. In 1 high WS and SS read EMOL and FS reads strong Guard #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:30 PM EST
    love this coach! #425chat
    In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:30 PM EST
    A1. We wrong arm at the DE and spill to the SS. He keys thru EMLOS. Tracks pec vs. play at him/hip vs. wider play. BCR vs away. #425chat
  • CoachGrayvold Jan 5 @ 10:30 PM EST
    For those that are worried about getting RPO'd: Don't read the linemen, read the QB mesh point. Ball has to declare at some point #425chat
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:30 PM EST
    A3: normally two deep safeties are alley, force players. Everybody else forces to the safeties #425chat
  • coachswarers Jan 5 @ 10:30 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @coachswarers
  • CoachBicker Jan 5 @ 10:31 PM EST
    Sam and SS both have EMOLS reads; FS make the Sam right #425chat
  • CoachT_Hustle Jan 5 @ 10:32 PM EST
    A3: $ base assignments: run-to force/contain/pitch vs option, run-away cutback/boot/reverse, pass--flat defender/swing deep of #3 #425chat
  • coachjsam Jan 5 @ 10:32 PM EST
    A3: key the guy that can't lie. OLBs are force players & safeties run the alley make those guys right. We can make a call to change #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:33 PM EST
    425 playbook. DM me a mailing address and I'll get it out to you after the convention.#425chat
    • joehood2288 Jan 5 @ 10:25 PM EST
      Anybody have any notes on 4-2-5 that they would be willing to share with me? #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:34 PM EST
    Q4 cont: what do you treat those trendy "sniffer" backs everyone wants now? Fullback, TE, Hback? #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 5 @ 10:35 PM EST
    A4: If they're in the T box, treat em like a FB. Outside = Receiving threat #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:36 PM EST
    Again, notice the placement of RB by QB. Behind and opposite the sniffer back. Any impact to alignment or strength? #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A3 Cont: Make it easy on our Nickel Back. Matches up #3 his way. Changes some with scheme. The easier his job is faster he plays. #425chat
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 5 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A4: Just like you did. I'm stunting the T to the A and bringing the backer to the B. Dare them to run behind him... #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:37 PM EST
    Same philopshophy coach! Espcially dependant on type of kid in that spot! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCurran42
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A4: when scouting, why are they placed where they are and what is the purpose? Run/pass, seal edge, etc #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:37 PM EST
    Would love to see this drawn up coach! #425chat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachGibson5 Jan 5 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A4) I treat sniffer like a TE, when to the two WR side will align with slight trips rules! That guy can be in or out of the box! #425chat
  • coachswarers Jan 5 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A4: similar align, based on tendency. 1/3 based on align. Really want to know what they are trying to do with this set. #425chat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 5 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A4: Usually would run a 50 front, 2 3s and 2 5s. Roll SS in the box on sniffer and nickel on #2. Would run a 3 deep look #425chat
    • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:33 PM EST
      Q4: How would you align vs these formations w/ sniffers? Also, please list a basic coverage you would play behind the alignment #425chat
  • mikestauffer Jan 5 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A4. Treat H like a TE & align 3 tech to him. Back end is fld/boundary. DL games/stunts per game plan. Play quarters. #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:38 PM EST
    great point coach! Depends on WHY the back is there! #425chat
    In reply to @caprewett
  • Coach_Montalvo Jan 5 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A4) Set the front to the H Back/ Play quarters to the two receivers/ lock up the back side #1/ WS spy H back from 7 yards. #425chat
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 5 @ 10:38 PM EST
    Late to the party... Bobby Curran Co-Defensive Coordinator & LB Coach Loyola Blakefield Towson, MD #425chat
  • CoachGibson5 Jan 5 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A4) Just contending with him with box lbs you are outnumbered at the point of attack! Slide rules and tendencies are important! #425chat
  • CoachBurkettSHS Jan 5 @ 10:39 PM EST
    @Def425chat so much great info I can't even keep up...I'm screen shooting like crazy in case paranoid coaches delete!! #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 5 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A4) 2 back, we can go true 4-4 C3 or 2 high over to sniffer, 1wr side sky call, 2wr 2read so we are back to 8 man box. #425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:40 PM EST
    OS OT is TE or Y Off. Inside of OT is F. Would set front to run strength, DBs to twins. Robber to Twins, "Sky" to F. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A4: Nickel Back set based on tendencies. Normally to H back side. Stay 2 high. Split coverages based on tendencies. #425chat
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A4: one thing we've included on the rules for front is H Back after TE since we see so much 20 Pers. probably see it more than TE #425chat
  • CoachHolst Jan 5 @ 10:40 PM EST
    #425chat A4: Typically would treat like a 2-back set unless tendencies dictated otherwise. We'd either play 2-Read/Sky or C3
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:40 PM EST
    I know the feeling coach! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachBurkettSHS
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A4 treat it as two back have check to 1 or 2 speed WRs #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:41 PM EST
    WOW! Some of y'all tweet crazy quick! Q5 coming up in 2 minutes! #425chat
  • thomps_03 Jan 5 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A4 we would play as doubles with run strength to H, game plan may change due to tendencies on where H goes Pre/Post Snap #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:42 PM EST
    I LOVE this site. Great stuff! #425chat
  • CoachHolst Jan 5 @ 10:42 PM EST
    #425chat A4 cont: We'd also set the front to the sniffer
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:43 PM EST
    Would be based on O tendency & run schemes. Would deploy DBs to passing strength unless getting destroyed up front. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:44 PM EST
    EXACTLY! and right now NOBODY knows our personnel for next year! #425chat
    In reply to @mikestauffer, @CoachBurkettSHS
  • rmacblue Jan 5 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A5: You know, we stay base and bring the Adjuster to the TE while walking down the FS. #425chat
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 5 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A5: SLAM (2×2) the SS to TE side. Play straight up. #425chat
  • CoachBehnfeldt Jan 5 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A5: DE is head up on TE and rises him down and wrong arms to spill RB. #425chat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A4 we for a long time old school it cov 31, cov 3 to multiple WRs cov 1 to one wr #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 5 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A5) Stone is our check to bring Sam down to 9tech. Play either Under Stone 95135 or 11Stone 95115 #425chat
  • coachswarers Jan 5 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A5: the same with the front 7, may run more two high vs pro. Most of it would depend on what they are trying to do to me. #425chat
  • Coach_Montalvo Jan 5 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A5) same as above just walk the Sam down to a 9 and still play Robber. Makes it easy for the kids. Kids play faster if it's simple! #425chat
  • CoachCruce Jan 5 @ 10:47 PM EST
    7315 reacting off OL blocks and steps. Allows LBs and Safeties to flow and make tackles. #425chat
  • theCoachStokes Jan 5 @ 10:47 PM EST
    Most successful front for us would be 6, 3, 1, 5, with our $ in a loose 9. Spill with the ends, Robber coverage. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • CoachHop46 Jan 5 @ 10:48 PM EST
    A5: If the formation is run heavy, we like to play an Over or Under with a 1 or shade 0 depending on scouting. Rob cov behind it #425chat
    • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:43 PM EST
      Q5: What alignment have you had the most success with vs a pro set or 21 personnel (2 backs, 1 TE)? How is the DL play? #425chat
  • coachswarers Jan 5 @ 10:48 PM EST
    I want to keep everything as simple as possible. Want my guys to play F.A.S.T!!! Less think more play #425chat
    In reply to @coachswarers
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A5: Still 2 high. NB in a 9. DL alignment will be off tendencies. S to TE side reads him. Run block action, fly to fill. #425chat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A4 any of you cov 3 guys make an arrow call vs 2b to make fs alley immediate alley player??#425chat
  • mikestauffer Jan 5 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A5. Play an under front and quarters. Stunt T& N vs zone or E & T vs gap scheme. #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A somehwat unrelated Q6 to end the night but a hot topic coming up in 3 minutes! #425chat
  • thomps_03 Jan 5 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A5 - 6i 3 2i 4, SS 5x5 box outside TE creep WS, down a little, RAT Cover 1...LBs Read TB, Safeties Read FB #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:50 PM EST
    A4. We can also run a 2 high read roll and insert a FS at POA depending on what they do out of it. Strength is normally to the FB #425chat
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A5 cont: theres your 8 in box from 2 high look. With DL alignment, make them run in gaps they don't want to. Comes from film study. #425chat
  • CoachChadJ Jan 5 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A5 1,5,9 to TE 3,5 away 9 will be OLB or sub 5th DL. Bring ws over the ball at about 8 yds in a "lurk" #425chat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 5 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A5: Try and roll SS down on TE and still can send 4 or 5. #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:52 PM EST
    A4. We can also run a split coverage: Man on single side and zone on 2 receiver side. Depends on what they want to do. #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:52 PM EST
    Yes! Like that! #425chat
  • rmacblue Jan 5 @ 10:53 PM EST
    A6: Can't answer that: we play 0 and pressure the box - still the best option in my book. #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 5 @ 10:53 PM EST
    Anyone rolling to a hard corner & spinning the FS, WS, & other C? Or Mabel with corner? Free up the over hang? Against bubble teams #425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:53 PM EST
    Change eyes of force players, adjust LB depth, manipulate box count (pre snap RPOers), post roll (post snap RPOers). #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:54 PM EST
    A6: we teach all coverages with option/rpo responsibilities built in. Kids have to understand the throw is same idea as pitch #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:54 PM EST
    How most people play it now... That's why wanted to see if there is a black sheep that does something different lol #425chat
    • rmacblue Jan 5 @ 10:53 PM EST
      A6: Can't answer that: we play 0 and pressure the box - still the best option in my book. #425chat
  • CoachBurkettSHS Jan 5 @ 10:54 PM EST
    this one exchange was worth the time tonight! No more ELOS. They're liars! #425chat
    In reply to @coachdub2911, @Coach_JGill, @CoachGrayvold, @Def425chat
  • CoachCruce Jan 5 @ 10:54 PM EST
    A6 Tough but requires lots of film and tendencies. Change who is run/pass to keep QB guessing and not straight reading #425chat
  • clayton_morris Jan 5 @ 10:55 PM EST
    A6: our NB is aligned same side offset RB. Naturally he is an extra man in RPO passing windows/quick screens. We can play games. #425chat
  • CoachCruce Jan 5 @ 10:55 PM EST
    A6 cont. Being an option guy, if QB can easily determine read, an average QB can make stellar reads #425chat
  • CoachBehnfeldt Jan 5 @ 10:55 PM EST
    A6: we honestly do not see many RPOs, but our Quarters coverage seems to do a good job with bubble that we see. #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:56 PM EST
    If anyone is at the convention this weekend, let me know. I'd love to talk defense! #425chat
  • CoachHop46 Jan 5 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A6: Who do you want to have the ball? Take away #1 read (if you know what is). Varying/disguising split coverages help. #425chat
    • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:52 PM EST
      Q6: Since offenses want to cheat with RPOs, what ways have you been successful defending RPO besides playing cover 1 or 0? #425chat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 5 @ 10:56 PM EST
    Also find pointing out every OL was 9 yds downfield every time is illegal proves to be futile, yet therapeutic. #425chat
    In reply to @Def425chat
  • caprewett Jan 5 @ 10:56 PM EST
    Understand what the RPO is trying to accomplish and teach the players the same thing so they understand #425chat
  • CoachBicker Jan 5 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A6: Sometimes formation can give it away - in which case we scheme specific responsibilities - like facing veer or midline #425chat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A6 pressure em up know if help or no help make a 16 year old kid beat you #425chat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 5 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A6: Send pressure (playing cov 0 behind) confuse the front 5 pre-snap. Reads also change, LBs need to read mesh rather than guards #425chat
  • coachjsam Jan 5 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A6: understand who they are reading allows you to change up the look to where you dictate what they are going to do #425chat
  • CoachHop46 Jan 5 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A6 cont: Dline must help in muddying secondary run reads #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:58 PM EST
    That's all for tonight folks! Next week will be ONE HOUR EARLIER! 8CT/9Eastern. Follow fellow coaches and grow your network! #425chat
  • 3anout Jan 5 @ 10:58 PM EST
    A5. 7 tech vs. TE. 3 tech strong, 1 tech weak, 6 teach weak side end. SS aligns 4x4 off of OT's foot. Key triangles. #425chat
  • Coach_Montalvo Jan 5 @ 10:59 PM EST
    A6) Reading the #2 verical threat tells you everything you need to know. You always have #'s vs the run âž• eyes on screens/ Routes! #425chat
  • Def425chat - Moderator Jan 5 @ 10:59 PM EST
    Send in any questions that come into your mind and we can add them for next week's chat! Appreciate everyone's time tonight! #425chat
  • joehood2288 Jan 5 @ 10:59 PM EST
    I learned a lot tonight, thanks to all! #425chat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 5 @ 10:59 PM EST
    A6 we had success with fire zones vs rpos #425chat