#collschat Archive
Collingswood Public Schools Book chats and other education topics.
Tuesday December 6, 2016
7:30 PM EST
msdigiambattist
Dec 6 @ 7:30 PM EST
A4: furthering education should not result in years and years of debt😥
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kysmith424
Dec 6 @ 7:31 PM EST
A4: and its not just college - pay for SAT/ACT, to send those scores to colleges, pay for applications, pay to reserve your spot!
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colls_academic
Dec 6 @ 7:31 PM EST
A4: If that 538% were proportionate to grads finding jobs and earning a living, I might be able to use a different gif but
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:31 PM EST
A5: How much?? Seriously??
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:33 PM EST
Q5: Given your college experience - What do you think of the Credentials, Competency & Individual Pathways proposals?
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mmebriggs11
Dec 6 @ 7:34 PM EST
Q5: While I support a rounded education, many "gen-eds" were irrelevant and wasted time I wanted to spend studying other subjects
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:35 PM EST
A5: We already discussed a bit - while I think things need to change, this was where Rose lost me a bit
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MsYucis
Dec 6 @ 7:35 PM EST
A5: all the ed classes I took taught me next to nothing. Including my Supervisor cert classes!
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colls_academic
Dec 6 @ 7:35 PM EST
A5: I think early undergrad is too much like HS. Let's get rid of gen ed courses and get down to business. That would help.
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MsYucis
Dec 6 @ 7:36 PM EST
some of my Core classes were so interesting though- never would have taken them if they weren't reqs. Meteorology!
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In reply to @mmebriggs11
whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:37 PM EST
A5: I loved my Core classes - one of the first times I felt a true passion for learning just to learn
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mr_dfenton
Dec 6 @ 7:37 PM EST
A5: Definitely intrigued by Rose's ideas. But would I jump at the chance to enroll in his hypothetical school? Probably not.
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:38 PM EST
A5: That said - I think grades are really silly. Like, seriously? Its just so ingrained, but means so little.
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cwahlCHS
Dec 6 @ 7:38 PM EST
A5: Measuring competency to earn credentials says you really know your stuff. Every day lately I ask, do my Ss REALLY need this??
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MsYucis
Dec 6 @ 7:39 PM EST
I went to college before it was expensive! So yes, it was worth it.
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In reply to @mmebriggs11
JB_Popliteus
Dec 6 @ 7:39 PM EST
A5: my undergrad was exercise science - I didn't go into the field, but I loved it and still use a lot of the knowledge/skills
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kysmith424
Dec 6 @ 7:39 PM EST
A5: was it necessary to take a Lit course as a business major...not really. not what I was there for. (sorry Eng teachers!)
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:40 PM EST
Q6: Rose calls out Public education as the starting point to individualize opportunity. Agree or disagree? What can we do?
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kysmith424
Dec 6 @ 7:40 PM EST
A5: I did my best and was the most motivated in classes that focused on my major or were loosely related
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mr_dfenton
Dec 6 @ 7:42 PM EST
A6: Agreed. What can we do? Start teaching kids instead of only tests and standards.
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colls_academic
Dec 6 @ 7:43 PM EST
A6: I actually this we do this better than most already. How many opportunities do our kids have bc of adults who care?
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colls_academic
Dec 6 @ 7:44 PM EST
A6: Actually,
@CollsChoirs
idea/video today is a good first step, right?
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In reply to @CollsChoirs
MsYucis
Dec 6 @ 7:45 PM EST
A6: Student choice wherever possible & allow students extended time if they need it.
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cwahlCHS
Dec 6 @ 7:46 PM EST
A6: re: Q1, our Ss know at times they need to conform, they get many opps to be individuals. Our Ts see to it, don't you think?
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:47 PM EST
Q7: Rose says American dream is to become the best we can be "on our own terms" Do you see this improving for next generation?
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JB_Popliteus
Dec 6 @ 7:47 PM EST
A6: Colls does a good job at fostering this idea - with the makerspace. I will always advocate for more PBL
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:47 PM EST
A6: I worry that the public schools that can truly individualize the way he advocates are the wealthiest
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MsYucis
Dec 6 @ 7:47 PM EST
yes! Helped students see that they are valued as individuals
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In reply to @colls_academic, @CollsChoirs
whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:47 PM EST
A6: To truly transform, we have to combat things as a community, and poverty has to be addressed
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kysmith424
Dec 6 @ 7:48 PM EST
Agree completely. opportunities that are accessible to some are not even an option for others.
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In reply to @whalen
mr_dfenton
Dec 6 @ 7:50 PM EST
A7: Definitely see this generation achieving dreams on their own terms, which is awesome. The 'gig economy' is a good example.
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colls_academic
Dec 6 @ 7:50 PM EST
A7: This will likely be difficult under soon-to-be administration. That is so sad.
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cpoole27
Dec 6 @ 7:51 PM EST
Why Teachers Don't Want To Be Rockstars :)
https://t.co/HLhfZ0rmK8
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:55 PM EST
Q8: Closing thoughts? What is your big takeaway from the book?
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mmebriggs11
Dec 6 @ 7:57 PM EST
Overwhelmed, so much needs to be tweaked
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 7:57 PM EST
A8: Really loved the book - cant recommend it enough. If nothing else it breaks apart my own thoughts and limitations on myself
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cwahlCHS
Dec 6 @ 7:58 PM EST
A8: It is possible to run a successful business without a lot of conformity. If we can, we should apply this with our Ss!
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kysmith424
Dec 6 @ 7:59 PM EST
A8: I really liked this book. It really made me rethink some things - my contribution to my job and my own career.
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colls_academic
Dec 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
A8: I had never considered my own averageness or that of the career we chose until this book. Thanks for being awesome, all.
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mr_dfenton
Dec 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
A8: This book really challenged some beliefs I've never questioned. It's def shifted my perspective!
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whalen
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:01 PM EST
Much love to every INDIVIDUAL in this
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group!! I really enjoy our discussions! Thanks for making it possible
mr_dfenton
Dec 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Thank YOU, Dan! Looking forward to our F2F next week!
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In reply to @whalen
JB_Popliteus
Dec 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
A8: I loved it! It made me think more about: success, conformity, & motivation. It supports my dislike of the focus on grades
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JB_Popliteus
Dec 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Thanks for another great
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