#5thchat Archive
#5thchat is for people interested in chatting about topics in education, especially as they relate to Grade 5. The goal is to connect people who enjoy learning & sharing, plus supporting & creating partnerships worldwide!
Tuesday May 16, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome 2
#5thchat
I'm your host tonight. Our topic is "Bring Life Back 2 Writing Workshop". Introduce yourself & tell us where you're from.
participatechat
May 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#5thchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/bsl55664vz
RLvballcoach
May 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Barb Anderson from Rib Lake, WI. Love 5th chat twitter chats!!
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Welcome Barb to
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!
In reply to @RLvballcoach
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
I'm Paul Solarz, a 5th grade teacher from Arlington Heights, IL. Thanks
@ElisaW5
for moderating
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tonight!!! Looking forward to it!
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Welcome Lee! Glad you're here!
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In reply to @LeeAraoz, @Winhawk15
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:03 PM EDT
TY, Paul for opening
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to guest moderators. Looking forward to tonight's chat! A topic near and dear to my heart - writing workshop!
In reply to @PaulSolarz
ambjorkl
May 16 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Ashley, from Thunder Bay, Ontario
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Welcome, Ashley to
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In reply to @ambjorkl
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Jordan from Princeton, NJ here. Very excited about this week's
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topic!
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1 coming up!
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We'll use the A1, A2 format for answering questions.
iowajonhuebner
May 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Jon, a 5th grade teacher from Iowa ready to chat tonight!
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Yay, Mr. Ullman! Welcome!
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman
TNording
May 16 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hello, Tina from Milton, Wisconsin. I'm teaching writing again next year. Looking forward to learning tonight!
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Welcome Jon!
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One of my team members is from Iowa!
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MrBaskwill
May 16 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Nick Baskwill Grade 5 NS Canada
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
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LeeAraoz
May 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Thanks, Elisa. I’m happy to be here!
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Winhawk15
May 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Annette Lubbesmeyer Winona MN.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Welcome Nick!
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In reply to @MrBaskwill
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Welcome, Annette!
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In reply to @Winhawk15
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1 I run the
@TCRWP
Units of Study...working my way through research-based argument essays right now
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massignmenthelp
May 16 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#edulive
#2ndaryELA
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#ASCDL2L
#busedu
#DI4ALL
Top 5 Concerns Students Have While Writing Assignments
https://t.co/QNgbrlLwjX
iowajonhuebner
May 16 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Yes! It is always good to see a fellow Iowan on
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.
In reply to @ElisaW5
iowajonhuebner
May 16 @ 8:12 PM EDT
We teach six units of writing that focusing on each mode of writing twice. (persuasion/informative/narrative)
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:12 PM EDT
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1 - Writing in our classroom changes every year. This year, we focused on writing projects, with feedback on GDocs & in person.
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TNording
May 16 @ 8:12 PM EDT
1A: Lucy Calkins Units of Study is what our district adopted. I piloted the narrative unit three yrs ago.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:14 PM EDT
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Ed_Stories
May 16 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 Teaching writing is one of my passions! I use published models & break it out into doable steps; incorporate current events, too
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 - I'd increase the amount of individualized feedback I give to my students. I'm looking into
@graidenetwork
for help next year.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:15 PM EDT
What are the six units of writing that you teach,
@iowajonhuebner
?
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In reply to @iowajonhuebner, @iowajonhuebner
Winhawk15
May 16 @ 8:15 PM EDT
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I'm a Title I Teacher that will be moving back to the classroom teaching 4th gr.. Hoping to get great ideas to use next year.
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I'd like to find a way to streamline my record-keeping. Nothing seems to be that one-stop shop for everything.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Can you say more about these writing projects?
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In reply to @PaulSolarz
LeeAraoz
May 16 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1: Collaborative Writing Assignments: Pairs of Ss use the best components of their individual pieces to create exemplars.
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Ed_Stories
May 16 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Lucy Calkins works great for narrative writing, but falls short when it comes to integrating the teaching of writing mechanics.
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In reply to @TNording
MrBaskwill
May 16 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: feeling that I need all Ss to start at the same time, and more or less finish a piece at the same time
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Sure! One of our writing projects was to learn how to write scenes for an animated movie called JoonBugz:
https://t.co/cxLOg0nA8c
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In reply to @ElisaW5
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:17 PM EDT
I hear that...this is a huge issue in my class. Some kids publishing while some kids have barely started!
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In reply to @MrBaskwill
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:17 PM EDT
I'm intrigued, Andrea! How do you incorporate current events?
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In reply to @Ed_Stories
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Do you use Google Docs to provide feedback or something else?
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In reply to @PaulSolarz, @graidenetwork
MrBaskwill
May 16 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Same! And I don't have a good way to navigate that!
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman
Ed_Stories
May 16 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Short editorials on topics of interest work well as models for students to read & analyze. Great lesson on structure, too.
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In reply to @ElisaW5
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Yes, but more of it comes face to face while I read their work on GDocs and they're in the room.
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In reply to @ElisaW5, @graidenetwork
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Not sure I agree...sessions in many units focus on clear punctuation, creating manageable sentences, comma usage and verb tense...
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In reply to @Ed_Stories, @TNording
TNording
May 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
2A: Needs to be engaging for Ss. Lucy's Writers Workshop had Ss choice 20 yrs ago. Limited choice & tech intergartion now.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:14 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Record keeping is hardl! I do diff system every year! Sometimes even change 1/2 way through the year! Right now, use sticky notes.
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman
AssignmentHelpN
May 16 @ 8:20 PM EDT
#edulive
#2ndaryELA
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#ASCDL2L
#busedu
#DI4ALL
The Ultimate 60 Ways To Use an iPad in the Classroom
https://t.co/Du9eR0MYRB
iowajonhuebner
May 16 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2. I wish I had more one-on-one time with each student. Google Docs is great , but more conversation is sometimes is needed.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A1 We use the Teachers' College UOS. I find them constraining at times.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Here is one student's Human Body Research Paper:
https://t.co/W0nVHB4icY
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Organizer:
https://t.co/rxH2VVOjXe
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Yeah...
@evernote
almost worked, but would also like onboard pdf editor to keep electronic assessment records as well!
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In reply to @ElisaW5, @evernote
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Is this feeling due to internal or external pressure? Either way, how do you handle it?
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In reply to @MrBaskwill
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:22 PM EDT
It's definitely hard to not get bogged down in a unit sometimes
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In reply to @ElisaW5
HowardKiyuna
May 16 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: I think demands: fine motor, text level, short term memory, expressive language. Can I adjust for my full inclusion class?
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Woah! Interesting! Will definitely look at the Google Doc you included here. How did that go? My kids are doing ind projects now.
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In reply to @PaulSolarz
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:24 PM EDT
We recently finished a "State of Nature" story that connected with our social studies unit on government:
https://t.co/qYB5OaEXzI
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MrBaskwill
May 16 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A little of both, my district has a plan for how many pieces you should publish and some of my own - still working on doing it well
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In reply to @ElisaW5
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A familiar experience! What works for me is to let go of the pressure to have them all on the same page. It works most of the time!
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman, @MrBaskwill
Ed_Stories
May 16 @ 8:25 PM EDT
I think both approaches can be used & when possible, make it a team sport to motivate students to learn the dryer material.
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In reply to @TNording, @Mr_Ullman
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Agree...also, modifying assignments can help.
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In reply to @ElisaW5, @MrBaskwill
TNording
May 16 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Lessons should be no longer than 15 or 20 mins.Hard to accomplish when reading 10 or more pages in a lesson.Ss engagement a concern
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In reply to @ElisaW5
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Also difficult when Ss have varying levels of experience with UoS coming in...
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In reply to @TNording, @ElisaW5
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:27 PM EDT
It was my first time trying something like this, but it was fun! Probably went on too long & didn't end in a finished draft, but...
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In reply to @ElisaW5
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Sounds grat! Please share the sources you use 4 editorials. I'd really love 2 do this.
@Newsela
is 1 source, but not 4 editorials.
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In reply to @Ed_Stories, @Newsela
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Also, taking a page from the
@PaulSolarz
playbook, using hard and soft deadlines! They have to turn something in when it's due.
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In reply to @ElisaW5, @MrBaskwill, @PaulSolarz
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:29 PM EDT
I like face-2-face myself! I've been using
@JSerravallo
reading and writing strategies books
@HeinemannPub
. They are amazing!
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In reply to @PaulSolarz, @graidenetwork, @JSerravallo, @HeinemannPub
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:29 PM EDT
a4 Ss have freedom of choice w/in genre we are studying. Right now, studying argument essays. We run thru process with same topic...
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Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4...then students go thru process again on topic they choose.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:30 PM EDT
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- Sorry guys about the graphics for the questions! Have to figure out why they are not showing full screen.
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:31 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:26 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Agreed! Her professional books before UOS were beautifully written & focused on students as writers. Doesn't feel that way anymore.
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In reply to @TNording
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4 Sometimes available resources dictate amount of freedom to choose.
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Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Think it's also a function of external pressure w/student testing.
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In reply to @ElisaW5, @TNording
iowajonhuebner
May 16 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4. It is crucial for Ss to have the choice. In real life, authors get that option, and Ss need that option as well.
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Ed_Stories
May 16 @ 8:33 PM EDT
If I were doing this with 5th graders now, I would search for editorials on fidget spinners! Onilne search: daily papers,magazines.
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In reply to @ElisaW5, @Newsela
TNording
May 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
I just pulled out one of Lucy's writing books from 20 yrs ago today at school! I'll send you a picture tomorrow. ❤️ it!
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In reply to @ElisaW5
MrBaskwill
May 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A5: Sometimes they get full choice, other times I give a couple of prompts to choose from - love fun picture prompts
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bickd
May 16 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Hi
#5thchat
Sorry I'm so late. What's our topic tonight? My name is Dawn and I teach K-5 science in Indy.
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I tried
@everynote
, but I couldn't get the hang of it!
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman, @evernote, @EveryNote
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4 - Our WEX program gives prompts & focuses writing on skills and craft. Otherwise, I assign or students choose.
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TNording
May 16 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3:We need to experience the writing process as well. When I blog, I share my process with Ss. Model, model, share your struggles.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
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Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:36 PM EDT
New Uos has lots of interesting resources on many "hot-button" topics for kids...plastic, extreme sports, killer whale shows...
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In reply to @Ed_Stories, @ElisaW5, @Newsela
internet4classr
May 16 @ 8:37 PM EDT
INFO: Verbs!!
https://t.co/tMYZsqYUME
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#langarts
#ela
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:37 PM EDT
My students are writing a Travel Blog for our journey west on the Oregon Trail:
https://t.co/Q9IOWfhFc1
Just set off last week!
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Although Ss have time to do this in class, sometimes they just have to do it for HW. It's always motivating when you have choice!
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman, @MrBaskwill
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:37 PM EDT
NPR just did a story on these things recently...
https://t.co/OCf0jhbDwD
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In reply to @Ed_Stories, @ElisaW5, @Newsela
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Here's our "Fictional Travel Blog" where students can creatively embellish all the detail of our trip west:
https://t.co/zqXyrTv2Iu
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Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Can't emphasize how important this is. Ss need to see you doing it, too!
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In reply to @TNording
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Not everything has 2 be finished. In fact, most writing can be in draft form. Maybe publish 3-4/year. We are pushing kids too much!
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In reply to @PaulSolarz
Mr_Ullman
May 16 @ 8:40 PM EDT
It was almost perfect! Moving on to see what
@GoogleKeep
and
@msonenote
can do for me...
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In reply to @ElisaW5, @evernote, @EveryNote, @GoogleKeep, @msonenote
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:40 PM EDT
True!
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman
Ed_Stories
May 16 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Great idea. I think blogging can be very powerful for students. See this student blog abt
@levelupvillage
:
https://t.co/JzJ08o4ysT
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In reply to @PaulSolarz, @LevelUpVillage
TNording
May 16 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Newsela | Fidget toys are all the rage among kids, even those without ADHD and autism
https://t.co/aWM73kXGj7
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🤣😂🤔 Enjoy!
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:41 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Have you tried WriteAbout?
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In reply to @MrBaskwill
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:41 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:41 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:40 PM EDT
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Have to run, but next week
@GinetteGarrity1
&
@ChristinaSpoer
will moderate
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. Topic: "Igniting a Passion for Reading." Thx
@ElisaW5
!
FuelGreatMinds
May 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
An authentic approach to teaching adding fractions with unlike denominators
#fuelgreatminds
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#math
https://t.co/EIPEY4L9YT
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Me, too! Just like we expect Ts of reading to read, we should expect Ts of writing to write! Even if it's just journal entries!
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In reply to @TNording
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Love this, Paul!
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UrbanEdChat
May 16 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Coming to Houston, TX
#fuelgreatminds
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theignitEDteach
May 16 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Coming to Houston, TX
#fuelgreatminds
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#UrbanEdChat
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#txeduchat
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TNording
May 16 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5: Hard to manage to do this all in 45 minutes! Maybe Fridays are Author's Share? Ss ❤️sitting in special chair sharing stories.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 16 @ 8:41 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:47 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I've tried both of these & have started using
@GoogleKeep
for lesson plans, planning notes, and pics for planning purposes.
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In reply to @Mr_Ullman, @evernote, @EveryNote, @GoogleKeep, @msonenote, @GoogleKeep
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:48 PM EDT
For anyone who's interested in blogging w/Ss try
@2writingteachrs
March
#SOL
challenge! It's a great way to inspire writers!
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In reply to @Ed_Stories, @PaulSolarz, @LevelUpVillage, @2writingteachrs
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#5thchat
- Something people might be interested in to experience writing as a teacher is
@KateMessner
& TeachersWrite this summer.
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TNording
May 16 @ 8:51 PM EDT
7A: It's a process that takes time. Needs to be modified or changed as you continue to review your own writing. Again, model.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:47 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:52 PM EDT
TY, Paul! See you next week!
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In reply to @PaulSolarz, @GinetteGarrity1, @ChristinaSpoer
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:53 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:53 PM EDT
There are so many ways to break up the components of WW. No need to do everything every day. This is not realistic or helpful...
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In reply to @TNording
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@TNording
...Ss could share in small groups & not daily. Mini lessons not every day either. Small groups & one-on-one are valuable.
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:56 PM EDT
My Ss love when I model my own writing. They are really great at giving feedback. If only it would transfer easily w/their peers!
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In reply to @TNording
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Last question coming up!
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TNording
May 16 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Great point, but we must get through each specific lesson. We need to follow the manual. More autonomy would be appreciated.
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In reply to @ElisaW5
ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:57 PM EDT
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ElisaW5
May 16 @ 8:58 PM EDT
I hear you! This has been lost in WW - T & Ss autonomy - choice & voice. Highly recommend
#JoyWrite
@FletcherRalph
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