#5thchat Archive

#5thchat is for people interested in chatting about topics in education, especially as they relate to Grade 5. The goal is to connect people who enjoy learning & sharing, plus supporting & creating partnerships worldwide!

Tuesday April 10, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Hello! Welcome to #5thchat I am Shanda Seibel from Andover Ks. I am so excited to be talking about my favorite subject Math! Introduce yourself and share a #gif about how you feel about Math!
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    4th grade teacher from Missouri #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    We will have 8 questions and use the Q1 A1 format!! First questioning coming up in a couple of minutes #5thchat
  • ynkgrl1 Apr 10 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    #5thchat Michele Reynolds Gr 5 Canandaigua NY Math:
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Question 1: #5thchat
  • ervin_courtney Apr 10 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    5th-grade humanities teacher in Texas! #5thchat
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Latisha from Herriman, UT #5thchat
  • Dale_Chu Apr 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @mrsseibel5th moderating a chat on math engagement. Follow along at #5thchat!
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Connie 5th gr T from Mo getting here late #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1: I feel that in past we used to say that is a "math" person, timed tests, negative feelings from parents #5thchat
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1: I think alot of students become disengaged because they don't have the opportunity to experience math or discover things on their own. Too many worksheets. Kids need hands on experiences. #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    I’m at my niece’s volleyball game and can’t make tonight’s #5thchat, but I’ll retweet questions! You’re in great hands with @mrsseibel5th!!!
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1. S are disengaged from math because they feel they can not do it, are lacking basic skills, or it’s not taught in simple enough steps. #5thchat
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: Let's face it. Math can be hard. Ss get discouraged, and after possibly years of struggling they disengage. #5thchat
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Welcome from Rib Lake, WI. I teach 5th graders. A little late is always a good thing😀😀 #5thchat
  • IgniteTheApple Apr 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1 Students feel like math, beyond basics, is not really needed or relevant to their life. Other students do not believe that they are good at math due to previous negative experiences #5thchat
  • ervin_courtney Apr 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: Math presents Ss with problems without solutions where they have to use their brain so maybe Ss disengage when problem solving gets challenging & they want to give up easily. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Agree!! I wish we could realize 30 problems on a math worksheet isn't going to create a math student #5thchat
    In reply to @dot2teach
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1b. I also feel Ss these days want to get an answer quick and when they have to think or work at it they become frustrated. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Question 2: #5thchat
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    In school we were taught inquiry math teaching and I LOVED it. It's been hard to implement, but I'm hoping to really do some more of that next year. #5thchat
    In reply to @dot2teach
  • IgniteTheApple Apr 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A2 Relevance! Make math have real implications for students and they can rise to the occasion! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A2: I use several tools I love would you rather, Which one doesn't belong @mashupmath is a great resource. We do several of our problems on @Flipgrid #5thchat
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A2. Peer discussion, group goal setting, Moby Max math, peer tutoring, differentiation. #5thchat
  • ynkgrl1 Apr 10 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    #5thchat A1. Ss can become disengaged when tasks lack purpose, tasks are at a frustrational level, choice is limited, pacing/variety/length of tasks are not adjusted, delivery model is T centered and/or Ss basic needs are not being met outside of school.
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2: A lot of manipulatives (even in 4th grade!). Activities where they have to move around the room to solve problems, @Seesaw for problem solving and explaining, @Flipgrid to share their learning with others . #5thchat
  • AssignmentHelpN Apr 10 @ 8:15 PM EDT
  • ervin_courtney Apr 10 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2: my math teacher colleagues use quizlet live to engage Ss in math terminology/vocabulary. They also use Kahoots, games, hands on manipulatives, & other technology to increase Ss engagement. #5thchat
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    We have recently discovered @SplashMath and my kids love it! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: I also love @edpuzzle they have so many great videos that can help me teach it a different way, setting different paces in class, realizing mistakes help us grow #5thchat
  • ervin_courtney Apr 10 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2: Ss like to move and socialize so finding ways to incorporate that increases level of engagement. #5thchat
  • ynkgrl1 Apr 10 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    #5thchat A2 Providing choice, movement, table talk, sharing real life/personal stories connected to math learning targets.
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    We use it to solve story problems or tell which one doesn't belong https://t.co/WDYStlvNpS #5thchat
    In reply to @tisha715, @mashupmath, @Flipgrid
  • ervin_courtney Apr 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Our Ss love Prodigy! @MsMcClintockHES @MrsFloryHES have y’all heard of @SplashMath for 5th graders? #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Question 3: #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Here is a link to our measurement problem. Helps me see how they are thinking and if they make a mistake helping guide them #5thchat https://t.co/Wq2FVGkysn
    In reply to @tisha715, @mashupmath, @Flipgrid
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Often with a short BrainPop video on the new subject or review to get them interested, then a brief lesson, then, partner them up to practice. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A3: We usually begin with an engagement piece. Students love picture problems or Which One Doesn't belong #5thchat
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3 This group LOVES mental math so we always start with that. Last year's group liked to start with a puzzle. It varies year to year. #5thchat
  • ervin_courtney Apr 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3: I don’t teach math in my role right now, but some ways to engage at the beginning of a lesson could be, story telling, math books read aloud, real life example/connections, anticipatory set, warm ups, #classroomtransformations #setthestagetoengage #5thchat
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3: I like to start with "challenge problems." (Write a problem on the board that they can solve on their whiteboards, then discuss) Occasionally, I use a song. In the past I have done inquiry math lessons to start a unit (or part of a unit). #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Most of my Ss love @ProdigyGame Too! #385edchat #5thchat
    In reply to @ervin_courtney, @MsMcClintockHES, @MrsFloryHES, @SplashMath, @ProdigyGame
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    My Ss love if I can find a song!! #5thchat
    In reply to @tisha715
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: I have also pulled up a random picture from the internet and played "Show Me the Math" (imagine my best game show voice) #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Question 4:#5thchat
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A2 we use Scootpad for pretests and then small group instruction if they don’t get a skill. If understanding Ss go right into ten marks which raises math skills with critical thinking and application of the skill. Prodigy is fav. Ss move along at own pace so not bored #5thchat
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3 Puzzles, problems from spiral math review helps get kids excited #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A4: With every lesson I find jobs and everyday application of the standard I am teaching. #5thchat
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A4: If I can relate math to cooking, food, or money, I have them hooked! #5thchat
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4 On Friday’s we have Frustration Friday where we try to stump them with real life math problems tied into the standard most are working on. Kids love it. It really challenges them and then they see the application. Strong Growth Mindset is necessary #5thchat
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    I once made a handful of videos of being doing things normal to life (baking, filling gas tank, even playing Mario!), and then posing a related story problem. It was fun! #5thchat
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4. PBLs!! #5thchat
  • ervin_courtney Apr 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4: I’m eager to learn from other responses to this ? One real life connection comes to mind for me is with the younger grades learning importance of number lines & counting by multiples & thinking about a teenage driver/any driver using the skills with a speedometer #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Do you have an example? I would love to learn more. #5thchat
    In reply to @RLvballcoach
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Recently I was thinking about doing some sort of activity where the Ss "own" a bakery, and throughout the year I invite them to do certain things to help their business, but they need to know the math first. 5th grade curriculum goes great with real life! Def an idea rn #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: My teaching partner loves to cook @panthers5th she made a great lesson and they had to convert fractions and make the recipe. One group learned what happens when you don't convert correctly! inedible cookies #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Question 5: #5thchat
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A5. I never assign math homework. I want my Ss to learn and practice math from and in front of me, and their peers. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A5: I do not assign homework in math. I feel that if they are struggling and then they hear "I don't understand why we do this" at home or "this must be that "new" math" it doesn't help #GrowthMindset #5thchat
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A5: I do not assign homework. First, it is not worth the hassle and second, kids are so busy with after school activities. #5thchat
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:38 PM EDT
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5 we have 4 problems which are in a math review which spirals. At the beginning of year it is not homework, but after Christmas it is a constant review so it becomes homework. Otherwise no homework. Also tired of parents saying the “new” math is too hard #5thchat
  • JessieRErickson Apr 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5: Sliding in late tonight. I don't assign homework. I prefer that students work hard with me where I can monitor and adjust their practice as needed. I ask that they read at home and spend some time doing "real world math (cooking, making change, etc) #5thChat
  • ynkgrl1 Apr 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    #5thchat A5 Ditch that Homework...I assign none!...and students are doing just fine!
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Question 6:#5thchat
  • Mboisclair19Bee Apr 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4: Robotics challenges are great for making concepts come to life! #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    TOPIC: "Providing a Safe Testing Environment for our Elementary Students" Please join @Peekapak TONIGHT at 8pm Central for #Peekachat - Our monthly 15 minute Social-Emotional Learning discussion! #SEL #edtechchat #kinderchat #1stchat #2ndchat #3rdchat #4thchat #5thchat #edchat
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A6 My kids recently opened an ice cream shop with all the skills focused on fractions. The end product was actually making the ice cream using milk, sugar, vanilla, ice, salt, and baggies. #5thchat
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6. It is not a lesson, but my Ss prove their learning using technology. Had a student today create a Minecraft excursion with math probs and if you chose the wrong answer you went the wrong way. Love @flipgrid. Slow motion videos, green screen presentations, animotos #5thchat
  • Mboisclair19Bee Apr 10 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6: Finding geometry in our environment, taking pics and sharing through Skitch app. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Question 7:#5thchat
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A6 continued... they love to prove using something of interest to them. Student created websites where their peers can look up and get help from them. @Flipgrid allows kids to hear how from another expert besides me:) #5thchat
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A6. Baking #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    6: We created and borrowed lesson ideas and created our volume city. We talk about making models as an architect #5thchat https://t.co/fIvZ63jSU8
  • GMcKinney2 Apr 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Hey #5thchat 👋 if you can multitask, there’s a special ed discussion happening over at #SISSchat welcome to all!
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    We are planning a lesson on building a scale house soon but haven’t done it yet. #5thchat
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A7: My resource would be advice..the teacher's manual is just a guide. Search out new strategies and activities that will help your students succeed. Don't be afraid to fail! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Question 8:#5thchat
  • ConnieLund25 Apr 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A7. Ditch the worksheets. Create a small PBL that lets the Ss explore and apply the skills. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A7: I would tell them to follow @alicekeeler she makes great points about how not to teach math and ditch worksheets :they dont work #5thchat #385edchat
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    PBL scares me a little because it seems like A LOT of work. I am more than happy to put in effort and time, but as a new teacher it seems everything demands those things, and I don't have enough (effort and time) to go around. Advice? #5thchat
    In reply to @ConnieLund25
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A8 Failure is not an option! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I think we have to find a better way to teach math and realize it is as important as reading! #GrowthMindset #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Thank you everyone who participated in tonight’s #5thchat! Especially @mrsseibel5th for moderating!!! If you have 30 more minutes, please check out #peekachat, our monthly 30 minute social-emotional skills discussion for grades K-5 starting in 2 minutes!
  • dot2teach Apr 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Great chat tonight!!! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Apr 10 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Thank you so much for joining me! Always love #5thchat! Love #math #mathchat #growthmindset #385edchat
  • RLvballcoach Apr 10 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Great chat tonight. #5thchat
  • tisha715 Apr 10 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A8: If only we could help parents see that what they call "new math" is an attempt to make math less like the negative experiences they may have had in school. #5thchat