#bcedchat Archive
This is an edchat for educators, primarily in British Columbia, Canada.
Sunday June 4, 2017
10:00 PM EDT
bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Please introduce yourself and include your subject, grade level and area of interest.
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.
participatechat
Jun 4 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#bcedchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/ENI75nCqOy
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Good evening, Welcome to
#BCEDCHAT
on Homework. I will send out the responses to the homework on homework shortly.
MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:02 PM EDT
I'm Michelle, ELL teacher in SD41
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Brigette from North Vancouver.
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:02 PM EDT
good evening. April from sunshine coast
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Good evening, friends. Doug from Boston.
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https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Hi Brigitte! Welcome to
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In reply to @brigitte2008
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Hi Michelle. Interesting to hear about homework in ELL context.
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In reply to @MsVanBalkom
CraigMah
- Moderator
Jun 4 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Craig, from Coquitlam, jumping in to
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!
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Hi April. It is a beautiful evening tonight.
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In reply to @rilmcknight
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Great to have you here, Doug. I know you will add a lot to our conversation.
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In reply to @DouglasReeves
MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Hi
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. Sally Gr 6/7
#sd36learn
teacher 🙋🏻. I'll jump in where I can but it's my nephews bday 😜
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Hi, Courtenay - middle school teacher.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Hi Craig. Glad you are in a jumping mood.
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In reply to @CraigMah
cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Chad from Maple Ridge, here at
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi Sally! Glad to see you back...and happy birthday, nephew!
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In reply to @MsSallySong
MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Olwen here from Burnaby
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi Courtenay. Welcome to
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In reply to @courtenaysee
bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:05 PM EDT
We will be using the Q1, A1 format. Please label your responses and use the hashtag
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:05 PM EDT
I would love if students would just check in with our topic of the day and be able to report back--Got it....Don't got it...
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Hi Chad! Hope it's nice out east (from me, at least).
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In reply to @cratman2
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Hi Olwen. Glad to have you here, tonight.
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In reply to @MsOlwenCowan
bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is your homework policy?
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Here's the responses to our survey
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PeterVogel
Jun 4 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Peter from Vancouver checking in for
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. Physics 12, ICT11/12. My homework for tonight is to photograph the ISS at 11:08 PM!
MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Q1: I give my 6/7s hwk to reinforce skills we've learned in class. However, struggling to make it "meaningful" & involve parents
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: Homework is never assigned but may need to be done if assignments not finished within class given time.
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In reply to @bcedchat
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: My hw policy started as all about completion of class, but then I struggled with those that struggled. needed something else.
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1 as i teach in a flex timetable I give work to last for the three non contact day. Ss work at school only
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: home is for home. School is for school, but if you dilly-dally you get to take school home.
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CraigMah
- Moderator
Jun 4 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Going to multi-task tonight!
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, working on school SEL data and listening to
@NightValeRadio
In reply to @brynmw, @NightValeRadio
cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1 - principal now but when in the math classroom, saw the inequity is caused. Seen flipped approach work better
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Cool. Love that as homework. Something that is engaging and possible and not in place of classwork.
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In reply to @PeterVogel
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1: With Gr 9 Ss, I try to always have classtime to work on it so I can assess understanding before Ss (maybe) take it home...1/2
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Flipped is an awesome way to approach the homework question. Especially those that need guided practice.
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In reply to @cratman2
brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Sometimes math homework is to go home and try out the math problem with the family and be the expert.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Yup. I wondered that, too.
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In reply to @brigitte2008
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1: HW is considered 'practice' as I am moving towards standards based grading. 2/2
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Love it. But what if they get stuck during 'practice' at home?
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In reply to @courtenaysee
MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: My worry about NOT giving hwk is that kids spend HOURS on tech/social media at home w/ little-to-no P supervision
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CraigMah
- Moderator
Jun 4 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Do you experience parent requests for more (and more) homework? How do you address?
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In reply to @MsOlwenCowan
MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A1: If students "feel" they understand the problem, do they have to complete all questions or just until they feel confident?
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In reply to @courtenaysee
DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:11 PM EDT
In “Peak” Anders Ericsson suggests “gold standard practice” has immediate feedback and moves students outside comfort zone.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:11 PM EDT
This is the type of "hw" I love. Something that enriches with connecting between home and school. and gives confidence.
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Sometimes math homework is to go home and try out the math problem with the family and be the expert.
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:11 PM EDT
In math there is as fine line between doing problems that are slightly outside of range that are doable and utter frustration.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:11 PM EDT
It’s difficult to envision Ericsson’s “Gold Standard Practice” ever happening at home.
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https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:12 PM EDT
That immediate feedback is important (or at least timely) How can that be done at home?
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In reply to @DouglasReeves
brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:12 PM EDT
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Sometimes we use the three in a row strategy. Get three in a row right and keep moving.
In reply to @MsVanBalkom, @courtenaysee
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Q2 coming up shortly.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Q2: When can homework be useful in extending the learning? Or is it never useful? always useful?
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dramaqueen4
Jun 4 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1
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Never anything new or requires support for home - usually finish what was started in class.
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courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Can ask for help-linear system works well with that. + Ss mark it themselves & self-assess. HW mark not counted in final score.
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In reply to @brynmw
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:13 PM EDT
I love that, but what if the students struggle in understanding, even though they started in class?
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In reply to @dramaqueen4, @bcedchat
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Like this idea!
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In reply to @brigitte2008, @MsVanBalkom
dramaqueen4
Jun 4 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A1
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Always give opportunities to complete at linch, learning assistance, & during silent reading if behind. Teaching ownership
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cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A2- when it engages the learner and the family
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A2 Class can be chaotic and hectic. 'working at home' provides a quiet time to check in. See what they know or need support with.
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2 Homework is very useful if the Ss choose to extend the learning or go above good enough work
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:14 PM EDT
I appreciate the self-assessment and not for marks.
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In reply to @courtenaysee
MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2: I don't like to use such inflexible terms but generally, I believe it doesn't extend learning 1/2
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In reply to @brynmw
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:15 PM EDT
Big if, though, around choice to extend. Are the routines/procedures that might help with that?
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In reply to @rilmcknight
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:16 PM EDT
I say yes, but right now I'd say I encourage most Ss to try all of them. Confidence is hard to be sure of. + depends on asgmnt!
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In reply to @MsVanBalkom
MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: I use
@FreshGrade
to set up at home conference for Ss & Ps to extend learning
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2: too often it is used to "prove" that learning is happening; Also, punishing kids who don't "get it" as quickly as others
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In reply to @brynmw
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2: It really depends on what the "HW" is...can be useful to confirm understanding of a topic, explore a topic more in depth..
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:18 PM EDT
The do better than good enough in class everyday. The view rubs off nost days
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In reply to @brynmw
MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:18 PM EDT
I like to use edmodo so Ss can contact me even outside school hours if they have questions
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In reply to @brynmw, @dramaqueen4, @bcedchat
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: Students who get it, don't need the hw, students who struggle, can't do the hw. So, why do we give hw? Who does it help? us?
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: sometimes engagement from school work turns up in home. Research, dialogue, shared interests
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MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: I really do not see hwk as punishment. As an upper-intermediate teacher, I have to teach my kids these skills for high school
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Not too often, but I have even given out my cell number if they need to text a question.
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In reply to @MsVanBalkom, @dramaqueen4, @bcedchat
DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Grading homework is one of four practices that are “worth fighting against” - May Ed Leadership
https://t.co/zMSKwzPjv6
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t
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:19 PM EDT
OMG Bryn... sorry. Got caught up doing my taxes. YIKES. Where does the time go. I'm here.
@brynmw
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:19 PM EDT
I'm going to be devil's advocate here, but why do they need these for highschool? Can't that change, too?
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In reply to @MsSallySong
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:19 PM EDT
I have used the Remind app for out of school contact or my email and that works well.
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In reply to @brynmw, @MsVanBalkom, @dramaqueen4, @bcedchat
AssignmentHelpN
Jun 4 @ 10:20 PM EDT
8 Easy Ways to Use Growth Mindset Approach in Classroom
https://t.co/9BOim8ka4a
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#CVESDChat
#TPEPchat
massignmenthelp
Jun 4 @ 10:20 PM EDT
10 Lifestyle Tips that can Help College Freshman Save a lot of Money
https://t.co/t4PuIYV8ld
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#CVESDChat
#TPEPchat
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:20 PM EDT
@ChristineYH
will be sending out Q3 shortly.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:20 PM EDT
YES. This is a fact. A TRUE FACT. I'm co-modding
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. Thank goodness for colleagues like
@brynmw
#verythankful
bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:00 PM EDT
@brynmw
and
@ChristineYH
will be our co-moderators for tonight.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:20 PM EDT
YES. Will do.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:20 PM EDT
@ChristineYH
will be sending out Q3 shortly.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Recently, I've found that most all students have smart phones (even at risk ones), but I'm urban.
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In reply to @dramaqueen4, @MsVanBalkom, @bcedchat
cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:21 PM EDT
I see that changing as society changes
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:19 PM EDT
I'm going to be devil's advocate here, but why do they need these for highschool? Can't that change, too?
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In reply to @MsSallySong
MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Yes of course, but after explaining my philosophy they often understand. I give a list of sites for skill practice if asked.
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In reply to @CraigMah
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Q3: Why is there even a debate whether homework should be used or not?
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Hello
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. Lemarr Treadwell, Fresno CA. Home the 2017 Spelling Bee Champion!
courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:21 PM EDT
The time management skills that come with completing HW/studying really helped me in university.
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In reply to @brynmw, @MsSallySong
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Wondering if anyone uses the grade X 10 for homework minutes. I've heard of it, never used it....
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:22 PM EDT
The “Getting Them Ready” myth.
https://t.co/dOS9FOok5x
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CraigMah
- Moderator
Jun 4 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Congrats! What was the final word the contestant had to spell?
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In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:22 PM EDT
I get that, but are there other ways to support this time management piece?
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In reply to @courtenaysee, @MsSallySong
CraigMah
- Moderator
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
I've used it as a guide/suggestion for time limit. Unsure of the source.
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In reply to @brynmw
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Congrats, Lemarr! I didn't spell the whole thing, as I didn't want to mess up....
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In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
---> Q3 is out!!! <
> Q3: Why is there even a debate whether homework should be used or not?
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A3: Of course! We want well-rounded Ss and if we are loading them with HW they will not develop other skills.
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In reply to @ChristineYH
brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Is there an App for that?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Q3: Why is there even a debate whether homework should be used or not?
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
but did she spell cofvefe right?
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In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A3: this is a debate of values and what people are comfortable with. Sometimes hard to change mindset
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Completely repudiated. There is zero effect in grades 1-5; minimal thereafter. See MarshallMemo.
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https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
In reply to @brynmw
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:24 PM EDT
It's interesting with Hattie's look at homework gave everyone opportunity to say: see, I was right?
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In reply to @DouglasReeves
dramaqueen4
Jun 4 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3
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There is a debate because we cannot rely on parent support at home, so removing hw removed P ownership. Real curve ball for Ts
cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:24 PM EDT
@sd42news
has iPad program for many gr 6/7 classes - families can use district tech for the year
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In reply to @dramaqueen4, @brynmw, @bcedchat, @YennCyberschool, @sd42news
technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:24 PM EDT
Ian - principal/librarian in BCs Sunny Shuswap finally at
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- oops - do I get late marks since tonights topic is homework?
MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3: I feel like this chat is becoming like more of a heated debate 😂. Honestly, I think if hwk is meaningful, it CAN be useful!
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bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:25 PM EDT
We hope you’re enjoying the chat tonight! Remember, we chat every Sunday at 7 pm PST!
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:25 PM EDT
I am still wondering what that grade 1-5 homework would be? Unless it is reading to parent/playing math games.
#NEVERWORKSHEETS
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In reply to @DouglasReeves
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A1. Marriage b/w homework and in class learning. I'm learning how to develop a BLENDED LEARNING ENVIRO in higher ed. HW required.
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bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is your homework policy?
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courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Not sure... think it depends on what the "HW" actually is. writing an essay? worksheet? 20 math q's? Reading about a current event?
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In reply to @brynmw, @MsSallySong
cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Lol - another good debate - late marks - assessment of learning or of work habits?
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In reply to @technolandy
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Is that homework that cannot be done in class? Extending your learning?
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In reply to @ChristineYH
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A2. HW can be useful in a BLENDED LEARNING environment if the intention is for learning (not redoing). Enhances F2F.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Q2: When can homework be useful in extending the learning? Or is it never useful? always useful?
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Here’s the Jan 2017 research synthesis on homework -
https://t.co/LHWdNeCD6L
¢.aspx
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A1 If it's something we can't do at school. eg family history And things students want to do as 'work at home' (read/code)
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Before Q4......Maybe we need to define homework. What exactly do you mean by homework?
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3: If Ss are going to school for 6 hours a day, 30 hours a week that is a full time job. Why are we asking for more?
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Thank you, Doug. I appreciate this. Helps in conversations with teachers in my school around homework.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Here’s the Jan 2017 research synthesis on homework -
https://t.co/LHWdNeCD6L
¢.aspx
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
What about just chilling with the adults in your life?
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In reply to @brynmw, @DouglasReeves
rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Q3. The great homework debate: Too much, too little or busy work? that is always the issues
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Homework is assigned schoolwork, extra or not, done at home.
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In reply to @brynmw
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Blended learning uses online. I see university Ss once a week. Opportunity for ongoing learning & use classtime as collab time.
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In reply to @brynmw
technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A2 I appreciate if it deepens learning. My oldest just taught herself Chem 11 bc she went to a contest but only 1/2 done course
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:28 PM EDT
My principal once told me that “homework” may or may not have anything to do with the word home. Many of our homes were chaotic.
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dramaqueen4
Jun 4 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A2
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Agreed. It punishes slower workers, weaker Ss. I would rather give less work, more class time, more review = better product 👍🏼
In reply to @MsVanBalkom, @brynmw
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A3. Intentions of HW matter. Ss need to understand purpose and how it connects to their learning. If not made explicit, then why?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Q3: Why is there even a debate whether homework should be used or not?
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:29 PM EDT
Jan dropping in
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A3. Regarding homework. With a class size of 35-40 Ss & 5 grade levels it is near impossible for me to cover everything in class.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I often differentiate "homework" vs "work at home" - usually ownership, relevance, meaning are the separators
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Before Q4......Maybe we need to define homework. What exactly do you mean by homework?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I wonder if it's values or purpose. I would agree with you about pedagogical habits or rituals. We got to tap into the why.
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In reply to @MsOlwenCowan
SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A1: I 'assign' very little. Usually only if Ss don't use their time wisely will they have it.
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In reply to @bcedchat
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:30 PM EDT
This is important. If 21st learning is about the anywhere learning,we must remember not all homes are ready for this in many ways.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:28 PM EDT
My principal once told me that “homework” may or may not have anything to do with the word home. Many of our homes were chaotic.
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A1: also trying some class flipping. Hoping to do more next year.
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In reply to @bcedchat
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Agreed. HW can be meaningful & useful. However, if no purpose beyond doing or repeating, I'd say keep the learning in class.
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In reply to @MsSallySong
JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Perhaps theres too much in curric?
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In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:31 PM EDT
If we want to each time management and personal responsibility, then let’s teach it - in school, with feedback and guidance.
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MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:31 PM EDT
I assign hwk: reading aloud to a family member, practicing a math game, working on project. I do not assign mundane worksheets etc
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A3: Ss passionate about a topic will seek out extra learning . I'd a G2 student researching Pangaea b/c we studied maps.
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cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Saw
@alfiekohn
talk about homework being the second shift.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Q4: From what is hw, then, what are some work that could be done at home that isn’t repeating schoolwork?
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:31 PM EDT
That's another reason why I like efolios based on evolution of Learners rather than report cards based on common task completion
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In reply to @DouglasReeves
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Hi Janet. good to see you. I just dropped in too.
#sad
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In reply to @JanetChowMSc
brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Can you explain further?
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In reply to @cratman2, @alfiekohn
debbiemah
Jun 4 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Ever have a S stay up all night 2 complete their project? Not 'homework'. Engaged. Meaningful. Relevant.
#learningwithoutborders
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3: If Ss are going to school for 6 hours a day, 30 hours a week that is a full time job. Why are we asking for more?
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:32 PM EDT
What Ian just said, Bada Bing, Bada Boom. Right on!
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I often differentiate "homework" vs "work at home" - usually ownership, relevance, meaning are the separators
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Before Q4......Maybe we need to define homework. What exactly do you mean by homework?
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:32 PM EDT
A4: Read a book, watch youtube about something you are interested in, tell someone what you studied today
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dssmithduncan
Jun 4 @ 10:32 PM EDT
when do we call it home learning not homework
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:32 PM EDT
I used to....now I focus more on why they aren't using their time wisely - is it a "won't"? "Can't"? Or......
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:33 PM EDT
When Ss dont understand more time at home isnt going to help.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4. Ideally. I'd rather no HW. Saying that (in higher ed or Gr 10-12) I don't want to be the TALKING HEAD. Needs to be strategic.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Following the ideation of a Gradual, Guided release of responsibility, not 'consequences to impact behaviours'
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Yes, Janet. That, plus there is a 7 year gap reading levels of the students in my class.
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Perhaps theres too much in curric?
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:33 PM EDT
That's interesting. Is it punitive to give hw to students who don't, for whatever reasons, learn in class?
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:34 PM EDT
Trying to get this video done for a project...crazy
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MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:34 PM EDT
I assign hwk incorp in-class learning like "time yourself holding a plank" or "teach your sibling 5 French vocab words we learned"
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cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:34 PM EDT
I like this term- any primary tchr will talk about the importance of reading w parents - or card games for math
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:34 PM EDT
HW can be a social justice issue. It needs to be rebranded. If Ss have an opportunity to "get things done" at school, that's ideal
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:33 PM EDT
That's interesting. Is it punitive to give hw to students who don't, for whatever reasons, learn in class?
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Some do. Some cultures promote this cramming style of studying
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4 conversations at home. Comparing similar studies like owl pellets. Exploring ways to extend knowledge like
@youtube
connections
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Well that doesnt bode well for learning. More inclined to get overwhelmed. What do yu do?
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
According to Hattie's research Homework on Classroom Learning.
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4: chill with an adult, read a book, go on a nature hunt, play basketball, make a board game then teach it to someone, skip, bike
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A2: I think many Ss benefit from some independent review of concepts - I encourage them to do 10-20 min once a week.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:36 PM EDT
That's good, but need to break down between elementary and secondary (elemen d=0.15; sec d= 69?) Don't quote, that's from memory.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:36 PM EDT
I also like the idea of reading at home. Ps can be a part of the learning process but also Ss learn reading is not just at school.
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A2: I think many Ss benefit from some independent review of concepts - I encourage them to do 10-20 min once a week.
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:36 PM EDT
What are you learning? Why does it matter? Where to next?
#noii
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:36 PM EDT
John Hattie on BBC Radio 4: “Homework in primary school has an effect of zero”
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Yes. I like the idea of play as HW. Good one.
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4: chill with an adult, read a book, go on a nature hunt, play basketball, make a board game then teach it to someone, skip, bike
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Can they do independent in the classroom? Or should it be only at home (or library...)?
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
My experience has been to use "Flipped Learning" and tech tools to support differentiation.
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Well that doesnt bode well for learning. More inclined to get overwhelmed. What do yu do?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
---> Q5 is Coming.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Sigh. Yep. Still happens at times. Not every year at least - shift happening!
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Q5: How does homework benefit student learning? Or prevent learning?
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
I get asked by parents to assign "extra" work who think if I give it to their child that gives them an edge.1/2
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#ell
dssmithduncan
Jun 4 @ 10:38 PM EDT
keeping things fresh with practice😀
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Exactly. More of the same? Hmmmm what's it called when you do the same thing hoping for a different result?
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debbiemah
Jun 4 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Sorry - was making reference to when students WANTED to keep learning...
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:38 PM EDT
I now tell Ss and parents that I will always provide feedback if Ss ask. 2/2
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#ell
JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Home play with goal to making discoveries or deepening questions.
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cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:39 PM EDT
Agreed. Although we tend to practice more if we're interested/passionate in the subject
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5. learning one topic with excessive questions destroys learning so 30 math questions gor homework makes Ss hate math
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5. Homework can be a useful tool to help Ss practice skills. However, too many Ts rely on worksheets.
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: it can be great practice of skills. It can be punishment (lack of support, knowledge, or access)
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Q5: How does homework benefit student learning? Or prevent learning?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5. It depends. I'd say HW does not benefit Ss learning generally unless it's purpose is to create class time for Ss discussion.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Q5: How does homework benefit student learning? Or prevent learning?
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Ooo...Einstein thought rising to surface.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5: creates anxiety and stress in struggling learners.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:40 PM EDT
depends on the connection with family. I have worked with some who can & some who can't help/extend time & help. I'm ok w either
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5: My concern is that homework erodes student confidence and can build a negative resiliency.....
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Christine, are you referring to Flipped Classrooms?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5. It depends. I'd say HW does not benefit Ss learning generally unless it's purpose is to create class time for Ss discussion.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Q5: How does homework benefit student learning? Or prevent learning?
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Bite size chunks of info that can be checked in formatively help.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Now, now... let's not generalize. "Practicing" the skills of math could be done differently. Also Q need to be purposeful.
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5. learning one topic with excessive questions destroys learning so 30 math questions gor homework makes Ss hate math
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debbiemah
Jun 4 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Absolutely!
#learneragency
#stuvoice
#stuchoice
Learning as a Journey. Making new connections. Constructing new insights
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:36 PM EDT
What are you learning? Why does it matter? Where to next?
#noii
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Alternatives to Homework.....
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Some of the world’s highest-performing schools have stopped grading homework. Students continued to do well.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
And equates learning at home with frustration and (at times) confusion and as a punishment
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
How about getting them to find some out of class examples or data to bring back to class to work on the concepts of math?
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dssmithduncan
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
so do we transition away from school work to school learning in a context that is driven by Ss?
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MsSallySong
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
A5: Can be a useful way to reinforce skills, build convos at home. Poor uses lead to discouragement & resentment
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
I hope that more schools will at least consider an experiment of grades and subjects without homework.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Agreed. HW can be a punishment. I just posted a video on Finland schools. NO HW. Less school for littles, 10-20 min of HW for HS.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5: I recently ask Ss to write about the reasoning for homework. Most thought it was to show teachers they were good at school.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:43 PM EDT
I wonder if they stopped giving homework, as well? The simple act of not grading is great, but not enough.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:43 PM EDT
I'm looking for more. I would like to see a restructuring of schools where we can focus on learning and not the block rotation.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
I hope that more schools will at least consider an experiment of grades and subjects without homework.
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:43 PM EDT
For decades the schools in Finland do okay with 10 minutes of HW per night. Kids need a social life too.
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Agree! concepts are processed in the brain with 'away' time. Sometimes more Qs pop up when they review later. This is good IMO
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Love that video. Saw it on Facebook, first, reposted by teacher friends from across US.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
We must differentiate clearly between homework (compliance drill) and practice (with feedback and support). Only the latter works
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
I just posted something like this (on Finland schools and 10 min of HW)
#greatminds
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:43 PM EDT
For decades the schools in Finland do okay with 10 minutes of HW per night. Kids need a social life too.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Flash card memorization: math facts/sight words vs comprehending what they mean (fluency vs phonetic repetition)
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Perhaps, especially with revised curriculum, that is the way we are moving.
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
And here is cycles back to the big question of "what do we value?" not just as educators, but as a country/society
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
What Doug just shared here, Boom Shakalaka!
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
We must differentiate clearly between homework (compliance drill) and practice (with feedback and support). Only the latter works
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:45 PM EDT
I agree with this. I like the idea of flipping the class though. Tried it a couple of times with moderate success
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hopkinsjeff
Jun 4 @ 10:45 PM EDT
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At our school homework happens if one wants to get something done before the next day. Or when collaboration synching requires it.
ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:45 PM EDT
Totally agree w/ you Douglas. Compliance does not equal learning. What does "real" learning look like? Can be done as HW.
#purpose
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
We must differentiate clearly between homework (compliance drill) and practice (with feedback and support). Only the latter works
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:45 PM EDT
If you assign it and don't check it...is it homework?
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johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:46 PM EDT
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Wondering if we ahould be connecting homework with true learning? Dig into the why and what really gaining by the work
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Christine, Finland schools are something 12:1 and there are few charter or private schools. Opposite of U.S.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:44 PM EDT
I just posted something like this (on Finland schools and 10 min of HW)
#greatminds
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:43 PM EDT
For decades the schools in Finland do okay with 10 minutes of HW per night. Kids need a social life too.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:46 PM EDT
My Ss hate those kinds of assignments. They don't see the purpose and honestly either do I.
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johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Q6: How can we overcome some of the barriers of extending the learning at home?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
It needs strong consideration as to why that happens. Definitely has to do with values. Value is where $ and intention goes.
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
And here it cycles back to the big question of "what do we value?" not just as educators, but as a country/society.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
And kids (all of us) need time to let their brains process and rethink their thinking. Time an undervalued tool.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Q6: can you clarify this question a bit more?
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Imagine if thats what yu were faced with each nite
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:48 PM EDT
A6. The barrier is our own. Do we really want to give HW to students? If yes, then why? If no, then why? Move from there.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:48 PM EDT
I have trouble with flipped classrooms and the work/life balance we were talking about a few weeks ago
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Q6: If students can't do the 'homework' at home, what can we do to support their learning elsewhere?
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:48 PM EDT
I'm listening to Olwen >>>>
@MsOlwenCowan
. It is about our culture.
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MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
And here it cycles back to the big question of "what do we value?" not just as educators, but as a country/society.
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:49 PM EDT
A6 When the learning at home is an extension of class like growing plants in various conditions or growinng crystals
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:49 PM EDT
Asked 38 math 8/9 students "why does learning matter" and they think it's mostly for the future. Interesting.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:49 PM EDT
Are there any barriers to giving homework? I guess that would be the first question. If so, how can we overcome them?
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Q6: can you clarify this question a bit more?
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ChrisMcD123
Jun 4 @ 10:50 PM EDT
When done right homework increases learning especially at secondary level.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:42 PM EDT
I hope that more schools will at least consider an experiment of grades and subjects without homework.
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johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:50 PM EDT
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@DIPLOMA_MCPS
#GrowMaury
MsOlwenCowan
Jun 4 @ 10:50 PM EDT
A6: many Ss have many barriers which is why no hwk. Instead I ask them to find joy, play, and read a juicy novel
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Q6: How can we overcome some of the barriers of extending the learning at home?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Definitely support from home matters. If HW necessary, then Ss should be able to do independently from home & be motivated.
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rilmcknight
Jun 4 @ 10:49 PM EDT
A6 When the learning at home is an extension of class like growing plants in various conditions or growinng crystals
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:50 PM EDT
I’d sure like to see the evidence of this, Chris. I know very high-performing secondary schools without homework.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A6: spend more time going in-depth on topics rather than trying to cover so many . Make sure they understand before moving on
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A6. Relevance and Rigor. Let's met them where they live.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A6 I am a firm believer of 24/7 learning - and using efolios lets that Learning be documented as more than just a letter or %
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Chris, Is that from Hattie's meta-analysis you sent earlier? diff between elem/sec?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Interesting data. Classic. When you learn more, you ask more. I wonder what they mean by "future" and how HW plays into it.
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:49 PM EDT
Asked 38 math 8/9 students "why does learning matter" and they think it's mostly for the future. Interesting.
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Dan maybe be prepared to share a nugget
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
---> Q7 is coming.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Can we change rigor to vigor, please, Lemarr? Rigor always suggest rigid and death, to me, anyway.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Q7: Is there ever an appropriate time for homework? When?
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Dan Pink, in Motivation, talks a lot about Autonomy, Mastery & Purpose. Ss & Ts want this.
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technolandy
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Zzzzzzzzzzz or 😭
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:53 PM EDT
I'm developing new resources on mat leave (balance? What's that?) and going to see if it helps. Everything is a test!
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:53 PM EDT
Future included comments like to get a good job, to make money, be successful as an adult.
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johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:53 PM EDT
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:53 PM EDT
More research on homework:
https://t.co/SEYO9qVUhe
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Absolutely. Bryn, its really up to the Ss perception and mine.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Can we change rigor to vigor, please, Lemarr? Rigor always suggest rigid and death, to me, anyway.
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
An we wonder why they dont like school
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
You're speaking my language. I totally use this video for my university Ss to discuss assessment & evaluation. HW ties in nicely.
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Dan Pink, in Motivation, talks a lot about Autonomy, Mastery & Purpose. Ss & Ts want this.
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
HI John. Long time no talk to buddy.
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johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
@LemarrTreadwell
Greetings and Happy Sunday evening Sir!
dssmithduncan
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
as you mention if Ss are passionate about learning at school they will continue with learning at home.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
More results from our poll on homework: Interesting that 46% T's don't give hw, and only 27% thought Ss didn't do hw.
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Hey John, are you prepping up for your new position?
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johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:53 PM EDT
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dssmithduncan
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
hope so.
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bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
Follow the people you have met in this chat - you will find they are the resource.
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ChrisMcD123
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
The idea that homework doesn't increase learning is incorrect and ignorant. Key is doing it effectively.
https://t.co/Ns8tufQwSC
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
The reason the research on HW is inconsistent is that articles are inconsistent in defining “homework”.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
A7. IT DEPENDS. Make sure you know why you are giving HW, how it serves Ss learning, and what the follow up will be.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Q7: Is there ever an appropriate time for homework? When?
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
Holly, just shared 3 biggest influences on Ss learning.
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hollysking
Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Feedback. Relationships. Mastery.
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
I was at a school that did this years ago. It made sense when I started but I hate it now
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cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
Seen my own kids spend hours on a video to represent their learning
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM EDT
This is my issue. So many different papers have different definitions or unclear definitions on hw.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
The reason the research on HW is inconsistent is that articles are inconsistent in defining “homework”.
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JanetChowMSc
Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM EDT
A7 HW is self driven w/ passion for discovery, a thirst to know what if.. Then theres magic. Doubt Ss wld consider that HW tho
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Q8: What role does work done at home play in your summative and formative assessments?
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Agreed. I wonder if there is a time & place students can complete "incomplete" work at school... like HW club or study block.
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM EDT
They are so fortunate to have you my friend. You will do amazing things for the Ss in your county.
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johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM EDT
I am! Start July 1
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM EDT
Many teachers I know, stay in at lunch, recess or afterschool to help students who want the support.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM EDT
A8: I am reluctant to give summative assignments at home b/c I don't want to grade parent contributions.
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM EDT
At some places I've taught there is but not always
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM EDT
A8. HW (for my classes) is content knowledge building or acquisition. The formative and summative will happen at school.
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dssmithduncan
Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM EDT
nice and they are also learning presentation skills on the side. Is this homework or home learning?
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Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Thank you for joining
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brigitte2008
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
A8 Is my class "is it for marks?" answer is always yes. Learning improves understanding and ultimately improves the 'number'.
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
That's funny.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Is there a way to give a summative home without the worry of "cheating"?
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MsVanBalkom
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
I like having the open door policy widely known for Ss .
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courtenaysee
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
We have an afterschool HW club M-F. It's voluntary, and recommended for students - not a punishment. Works well.
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DouglasReeves
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Thanks, colleagues, for a thoughtful discussion. Doug
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cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
I've seen many eg's this year in my school of engaging projects, inquiry learning - gets many students engaged
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LemarrTreadwell
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Thank you
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PLN. Last week of school for us. Thank you Bryn for moderating tonight. You
johnccarver
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
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@LemarrTreadwell
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ChristineYH
Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Exactly. Or this too.
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM EDT
Many teachers I know, stay in at lunch, recess or afterschool to help students who want the support.
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bcedchat
Jun 4 @ 10:59 PM EDT
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ItsAMrY
Jun 4 @ 10:59 PM EDT
A8: Hwk only informally assessed. Practice for in-class formal assessment. Motivation switches from extrinsic to intrinsic
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SciGeekJulie
Jun 4 @ 10:59 PM EDT
And PS - I am honestly LOVING the discussion!
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brynmw
Jun 4 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Okay. I'm following the
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cratman2
Jun 4 @ 10:59 PM EDT
#home
learning I think. They then make their own vids of bike rides- extending their own learning
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