#Zonefballchat Archive
#ZoneFballChat it is a chat meant to help coaches learn all their is about the Zone play and teach them how to coach it.
Thursday January 26, 2017
8:00 PM EST
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Jan 26 @ 8:00 PM EST
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:00 PM EST
Coaches welcome to
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tonight we will be talking gameplanning and Middle Zone
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:01 PM EST
Time to check in tell us who you are where you coach and where your from
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LCGrizzlyFB
Jan 26 @ 8:04 PM EST
Sean Price, HC, Labette County, Kansas
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:06 PM EST
Coaches keep checking in remember to follow others and grow our network
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 8:07 PM EST
Brandon Behnfeldt Delphos Jefferson HS OH
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cdsamp45
Jan 26 @ 8:07 PM EST
Colton Sample OC/OL Coach Brown County HS IN
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Jan 26 @ 8:08 PM EST
Doug Greenwood Head OL Jenks America
#R4
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:08 PM EST
Ryan Mcdonald OL Mooresville HS IN
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Coach_JStewart
Jan 26 @ 8:08 PM EST
Jamaal Stewart John Overton HS Nashville TN
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jrmyhanson
Jan 26 @ 8:09 PM EST
Jeremy Hanson, HC/OC Blair-Taylor, WI
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CoachMckieJr
Jan 26 @ 8:10 PM EST
Ron Mckie OC/QB Crestwood High School Sumter, SC
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:11 PM EST
Coaches we will follow the Q1/A1 format remember to use the hashtag so everyone can follow the conversation
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CoachSMartin
Jan 26 @ 8:12 PM EST
Steve Martin HC Wichita Northwest KS
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:13 PM EST
Q1 in 2 MiNutes!
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:16 PM EST
Q1 how many of you script opening a game or a half if so do you stay on no matter what or what brings you off script
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:16 PM EST
Q1 contd do you have an uhh ohh script in case something goes wrong
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jrmyhanson
Jan 26 @ 8:18 PM EST
A1) I've tried to script, but rarely follow it because of adjustments that need to be made. I need to learn to script better
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:19 PM EST
A1 we used an opener script and had a few mini scripts of things we liked. We also had an uh oh script to get out of a hole
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CoachMckieJr
Jan 26 @ 8:19 PM EST
A1: I script the first drive, but can never stay on it. Something I need to work on.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 8:19 PM EST
A1) as a wing t team , it is hard to script because people run special defenses against us. We have ideas in place, no script
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:20 PM EST
A1 I also would get off of it to early I need to learn to trust my planning
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CoachSMartin
Jan 26 @ 8:20 PM EST
A1) I script first 5 plays of game, just to see formational adjustments
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Coach_Shea23
Jan 26 @ 8:20 PM EST
A1 no script. Have things we want to do early to see how the D responds, maybe first play scripted at the most
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cdsamp45
Jan 26 @ 8:22 PM EST
A1 only things that bring us off script are lack of productivity and a glaring hole we can exploit. Find the holes
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:24 PM EST
Q2 how many runs and passes do you take into a game. Do you go lots of plays few formations or lots of formations few plays
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slade248
Jan 26 @ 8:25 PM EST
Slade Singleton OC Madison HS Marshall NC
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:26 PM EST
welcome coach!
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In reply to @slade248
jrmyhanson
Jan 26 @ 8:26 PM EST
A2) unfortunately we are lots of plays few formations, would like to switch the few plays lots of formations
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:26 PM EST
A2 we carry five to 6 runs and 8-10 pas combos out of a lot of formations keep the d guessing
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:27 PM EST
what's your base offense
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In reply to @jrmyhanson
CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 8:28 PM EST
A2: we have about 8-10 run plays, 4 main pass concepts. Limited formations but answers to defense alignment. Wing t thinking
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slade248
Jan 26 @ 8:28 PM EST
Script the first four of each half. Then it's based on field position and what the defense is giving us.
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:16 PM EST
Q1 how many of you script opening a game or a half if so do you stay on no matter what or what brings you off script
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CoachSMartin
Jan 26 @ 8:29 PM EST
A2) We go with what we need! Few Formations push tempo!
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 8:31 PM EST
A2: our 8-10 run plays are really about 3-5 concepts of blocking for OL to learn, real easy to teach.
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slade248
Jan 26 @ 8:31 PM EST
Q1 We always base everything we do off of the Rule of 4.
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:33 PM EST
have not heard that term before care to enlighten?
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In reply to @slade248
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:34 PM EST
Q3 how many of you run Middle Zone and if so does it replace IZ or OZ
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 8:36 PM EST
A3: this is the one I am curious about, I have run IZ/OZ, not mid zone. Have read a little about it, but not familiar.
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:36 PM EST
A3 we don't run MZ but want to learn more because it can fit a lot of what I would like to do
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:37 PM EST
Thanks coach!
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In reply to @slade248
slade248
Jan 26 @ 8:37 PM EST
Q2 Again the Rule 4, can run all of these out of different Formations with window dressing
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Jan 26 @ 8:38 PM EST
A3 we run midline zone (A to BS C) and IZ (A to FS C) RB and OL all look the same. RB reads BSLB for Mid Zone and PSLB on IZ
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CoachSMartin
Jan 26 @ 8:38 PM EST
A3) curious about it but also dont want to ruin how efdective we are at IZ! Our backs are very good at keeping IZ tite
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CoachSMartin
Jan 26 @ 8:40 PM EST
A3) also concerned adding we would be average at everything and not great at something
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Coach_McKenzie
Jan 26 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1. Script the 1st 12-15 plays...try to stay on it....
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:42 PM EST
A3 from what I know of it is a wider aim pt and Back has ability to Bang Bend or Bounce takes away a true stretch
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Jan 26 @ 8:42 PM EST
A3 we run many different tags off both. Also OZ with tags
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Coach_JStewart
Jan 26 @ 8:43 PM EST
A2 : we have our 6 base runs and 6 base passes and 4 screens... We window dress (motions and shift)... Same ole play!!!
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Coach_McKenzie
Jan 26 @ 8:43 PM EST
A2. Depends on what we like vs that team... but on the average more pass than run... will window dress a lot of base runs
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Coach_Shea23
Jan 26 @ 8:44 PM EST
A2 most of playbook w/ tweaks. Few plays, lots of formations/motions. We can run majority of our plays out if any formation
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cdsamp45
Jan 26 @ 8:45 PM EST
A3 wanting to learn more about Middle Zone. Goal of the off season!
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Coach_McKenzie
Jan 26 @ 8:45 PM EST
A3. IZ and OZ haven't done much with MZ...
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:48 PM EST
Q4 most of you have talked about window dressing. What is your favorite way motions, shifts, personel
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slade248
Jan 26 @ 8:49 PM EST
Q4 love to use motions and shifts. Like to use jet, orbit and bounce motions.
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:48 PM EST
Q4 most of you have talked about window dressing. What is your favorite way motions, shifts, personel
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:50 PM EST
A4 live jet and orbit want to learn more formation shifts to unbalance formations
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slade248
Jan 26 @ 8:52 PM EST
@CoachRmcD60
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
JENKScoachGWOOD
Jan 26 @ 8:52 PM EST
A4 forms, motion, folds, pin pull, seal, swab, hit...
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CoachSMartin
Jan 26 @ 8:53 PM EST
Zip(Jet), Fly(Back Out)
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coachjteuscher
Jan 26 @ 8:53 PM EST
my very favorite is Fly motion crossing in front of the QB/RB mesh. We give the sweep 2-3 times. Keep de honest.
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
Coach_JStewart
Jan 26 @ 8:53 PM EST
A4 I like to line up in trey wit the BS T at TE and TE playing bs T then motion to him.. Seems to get lost
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cdsamp45
Jan 26 @ 8:54 PM EST
A4 used to use pre snap shift from our wishbone set. Across and jet motions
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Jan 26 @ 8:55 PM EST
not a lot
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
Coach_Shea23
Jan 26 @ 8:58 PM EST
A4 love guys that can play multiple positions (TE/FB/WR). Can run multiple formations w/o changing personnel (1/2)
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 8:59 PM EST
Next week
@JENKScoachGWOOD
is presenting a webinar on Zone Play please DM with him for a spot as they are limited (25)
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In reply to @JENKScoachGWOOD
Coach_Shea23
Jan 26 @ 8:59 PM EST
A4 also like orbit/jet motion for misdirection and an extra read. Motions can help get defense where you want them
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Jan 26 @ 8:59 PM EST
always a plus
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In reply to @Coach_Shea23
