#LATICchat Archive

Interested in student-driven classrooms? Join Dr. Nancy Sulla @nsulla (author of Students Taking Charge, Its Not What You Teach But How, Building Executive Function: The Missing Link to Student Achievement, and more) and educators from all over in #LATICchat on Thursday nights at 8pm ET. We hope to bring together a community of educators to share insights, stories, examples, pictures from their classrooms, and more. We welcome all educators to join; no need to be running a #LATIC classroom.

Thursday November 30, 2017
8:00 PM EST

  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #LATICchat tonight! Please introduce yourself with name, school/district and role. Include #LATICchat in your responses.
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:02 PM EST
    We've got Dr. Sulla back tonight @nsulla - the FIRST mathematics #LearnerActiveTechnologyInfusedClassroom teacher and creator of #LATIC! #LATICchat
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi All!! Christina Clark, VCE/Nyack, 3rd grade teacher #laticchat
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Marjan Perry here, Nyack NY, 3rd grade . #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Our chat tonight will use the Q1/A1 format. Let's get started with intros. Remember: #LATIC + #Math = FUN #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hey Christina! Welcome back! 3rd grade is representing tonight! #LATICchat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi Marjan! Great to see you back here! #LATICchat
    In reply to @marjan_perry
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi Marjan ... how is your year going? #LATICchat
    In reply to @marjan_perry
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Speaking of #LATIC and #math ... #LATICchat :)
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Better each day with Lati model. Year 3 now:) #laticchat
    In reply to @nsulla
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Let's get going with Q1. #LATICchat #ILoveMath
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:08 PM EST
    That's awesome! But I do think year four is the best ;-) #LATICchat
    In reply to @marjan_perry
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:08 PM EST
    The best is yet to come! #LATIC #LATICchat
    In reply to @marjan_perry, @nsulla
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1 I love everything about teaching math because it was struggle for me in school. I had a teacher tell me that I just wasn’t good at math and it stuck with me. I refuse to let any student think that because math may be challenging that they are not good at it. #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: I love how #math helps out to make sense of the world & find solutions to problems, literally! But as an English T, I love that #MathIsaLanguage :) #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1) I love how powerful math is for solving real-world problems and how it builds such strong reasoning skills (executive function). #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    I love that you had the grit to push through and tackle math! How fortunate for your students who struggle with math. :-) #LATICchat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1b. I also love that the focus of math with the implementation of the CCSS is on the application and synthesis of math practices not just about teaching math procedures. Teaching kids to really understand the concepts and not just get an answer. #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:13 PM EST
    yes! moving beyond "procedural automaticity" to "novelity" -- applying knowledge to novel situations. #LATICChat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Stephanie from NJ here a little late! #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Hi Stephanie ... what do you love about math? #LATICchat
    In reply to @speducator15
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Yes! Love that! I started to struggle in 5th gr in math. My 6th gr #Math teacher convinced me I could do it and because of him, I made it to - and through! - Calculus, Trig, and Statistics in HS ... and again in college. #LATICchat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    @marjan_perry What do you love about math? #LATICchat
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1 Math was never the easiest subject for me as a student but I had some amazing teachers that still made me love it! Now I try to do that for my Ss #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Hi Stephanie, welcome back! Share your #MathLove with us! #LATICchat
    In reply to @speducator15
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Q2 is up! #LATICchat
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1) a great definition I heard about “Math” is that it’s the study of patterns. Math is a search for understanding patterns. Ss love looking for patterns #LATICChat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    love that! #LATICchat
    In reply to @marjan_perry
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Love it! #LATICchat
    In reply to @marjan_perry
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2 Why not? I see #math as the perfect opportunity because there are SO many real-life problems involving math! Clocks, money, sharing things (fractions), seeing if we have enough money to buy etc. Math is all around us! #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2a) I think people think math skills must be taught in a prescribed order with a narrow focus; I find the skills all connect and that needing one can build a felt-need for learning another ... I think math is more art than science. #LATICchat
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 Why not? I see #math as the perfect opportunity because there are SO many real-life problems involving math! Clocks, money, sharing things (fractions), seeing if we have enough money to buy etc. Math is all around us; felt need galore! #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2b) And the Learner-Active, Technology-Infused Classroom (#LATIC) is all about real world situations leading to a felt need to learn skills and having the opportunity to then receive instruction. Great for learning math! #LATICchat
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Another great early math survey is for students to record a diary of sorts “How did you use math all day?” The clock to get up,estimating how much milk to use on your cereal, counting lunch money..eat #LATICChat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Yes! Giving students the application creates the #feltneed for them to learn the skills. And the world is chock full of awesome applications to excite students about #Math #LATICchat
    In reply to @speducator15
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A great way to show students how math is all about describing the natural world #LATICchat
    • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:20 PM EST
      Another great early math survey is for students to record a diary of sorts “How did you use math all day?” The clock to get up,estimating how much milk to use on your cereal, counting lunch money..eat #LATICChat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:22 PM EST
    So let's shift our focus to the standards ... Q3 coming up. #LATICchat
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2 being able to apply the learner active style to math instruction takes a true understanding of the concept being taught. It’s not impossible but takes time. Math is sequential so you can see how topics build. Progression maps are essential when building ALUs #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3) So many problems to solve in #LATIC ... including problems within problems ... constantly challenging Ss to apply math skills to new situations ... which requires understanding! #LATICchat
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3) one of the major standards in grade 3 is to “Understand the meaning of multiplication ...” Conceptual . Ss need to know why we multiply in order to know when to. #LATICchat
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3 I'm just starting to introduce #LATIC structures in math, but an activity I've always loved is having Ss come up with problems using the skills they've learned and then solve each others' #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Q4: #LATICchat Let's keep going with the #MathStandards
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3) Have Ss launch a food drive ... counting, categorizing, < >, money, fractions ... you could build so much math into that! #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4) When Ss understand a math concept and are in classrooms where they are solving real-world problems, they will keep drawing upon their knowledge of math procedures. One path leads to another. #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4: I'm always inspired when Ts tell me Ss struggled with a procedure they need to solve a word problem in a math lesson but then apply it to their ALU. Building a golf course, designing a recipe, developing a budget, analyzing cell phone plans: #FeltNeed for #MATH #LATICchat
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4 creating an ALU focused on a felt need supports procedural fluency. Ss need to have mastered standards in order to solve the problem. The transfer task also helps to show mastery and the ability to apply knowledge to a new situation. #LATICchat
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4) Becoming fluent with math facts allows student to use that knowledge when grappling with real world problems. Fluency becomes a useful, problem solving tool. #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4) My 7th grade math Ss were having a horrible time in home arts class with recipes (converting for diff #s of servings) until I told them it was math. And then they got it! Ah the disconnects. #LATICchat
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4 Ss work through each skill is scaffolded through the same procedures--learning skills through activities, practicing those skills in activities, applying them again for the task and transferring the skills to a new problem #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Transfer tasks in #Math allowing Ss to apply their learning = powerful procedural fluency! #LATICchat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Q5 is up! #LATICchat #PBL in #math
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5) I love Designer Pizza (https://t.co/3zi1DXSI0r) ... create menus for a pizza place to sell slices of various sizes, mixing different sizes. I heard one of our schools now has a local pizza shop implementing Ss solutions. #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Building #MathematicalMindsets in Ss ensures that Ss see AND think of #math as connected to all content areas. It's all about #ConnectedLearning #LATICchat
    In reply to @nsulla
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5 Again, just starting (week 1!) but our current task is for Ss to develop their own math game that corresponds with a skill we learn! Our math program has so many that they learn to play, but why not add some of our own? #LATICchat
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5 I created a transfer task for a geometry/fractions unit that incorporated cubism. The Ss learned all about Picasso, shapes, and made beautiful art. They were so engaged they didn’t want to stop and even continued to study Picasso after the unit #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: An ES art and math teacher teamed up to have students mathematically design and then create new homes for Haiti's hurricane victims. Sent their designs to the consulate general in NYC. #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Show Ss diff "levels" of questions. This is a page from my book It's Not What You Teach But How ... when you show students diff levels of problems, they work hard to make the tougher ones. #LATICchat
    In reply to @speducator15
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Awesome real-world application and transfer of learning. #LATICchat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5) I love spending and budgeting . Ss study holiday sales flier to create a shopping list that fits in with their allowance. Now we use it with the PTAs holiday shopping day at my school. Place value, adding and subtracting #LATICChat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: I love when Ss say to Ts that they remember learning something earlier in the year/last year in the ____ ALU in math, and now they are using it for this new ALU. Helping Ss see the #coherence is critical. It's not only about the Ts owning it. #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    That is awesome! #LATICchat
    In reply to @marjan_perry
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A6) I think working backwards creates "felt need" and builds coherence. e.g. adding up diff fractional pizza slices means needing equiv fractions, which needs LCM, which needs prime #s. Why do we teach the skills in the other order? ;-) #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Q7 is up! #LATICchat #MathematicalPractices transcend the content areas. Let's discuss!
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6 coherence helps ts plan ALUs. Knowing what Ss should know, need to know now, and where their learning is going is essential to creating activities for practice and learning. I use coherence maps to plan all my instruction. https://t.co/bfGusaK7hf has a great map #LATICchat
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6 With so many opportunities to learn and apply skills, it's harder for Ss to forget; moving up from 1st to 2nd, <3 when they say "We learned this already! I remember it from 1st grade!" The felt need tasks also create they "why" of the learning #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:52 PM EST
    they do! #LATICchat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:53 PM EST
    yes yes yes that's what it's all about! If Ss engage in learning math through problems and application, they have a felt need to learn, and they learn and retain to the next year! #LATICchat
    In reply to @speducator15
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:53 PM EST
    #heartmelt And that is what positions them to get to the depth of the progression of the standards each year and build their body of #mathematicalknowledge #LATICchat
    In reply to @speducator15
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A7 The first one for me is HUGE! Sometimes I worry Ss are given the answer to even "easy" problems all too often. We need to encourage them to think critically in all subject areas/in life! There's not always an easy answer; we have to grapple! #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A7) I find that the math practice standards apply so easily across the subject areas ... it's good, however, to post them and show Ss how they are using these "math mindsets" every day. #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    CQ: Tonight's #LATICchat Challenge Question ...
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A7. I use these statements everyday in math. Ss need to hear that these are things that all mathematicians do. I need to record myself saying did you attend to precision and how did you make sense #LATICchat
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  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Yes! #ThinkLikeAMathematician #LATICchat
    In reply to @speducator15
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:57 PM EST
    CA After a coteaching session (and the first week of math #LATI style), my coteacher and I are reworking our activity lists to make more connections to our task/rubric #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:58 PM EST
    And get your Ss to say it to each other and to themselves! :) #LATICchat
  • marjan_perry Nov 30 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A7) This Q reminds me of a quote from the movie Contact. Jody Fosters character says “Math is the only truly universal language.” It is a form of communicating information and understanding in any subject area #LATICchat
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A7. I use these statements everyday in math. Ss need to hear that these are things that all mathematicians do. Even my Ss say use precision and make sense of what the problem is asking Its become second nature #LATICchat
  • nsulla - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:59 PM EST
    so true ... we talk about wait time for Ss after a T asks a question ... we need to apply the same to helping students work through problems. Use the facilitation roadmap ... guide, don't always just show them! #LATICchat https://t.co/KsSYSOqROn
    In reply to @speducator15
  • speducator15 Nov 30 @ 8:59 PM EST
    CA After a coaching session (and the first week of math #LATI style), my coteacher and I are reworking our activity lists to make more connections to our task/rubric #LATICchat
  • cclark421 Nov 30 @ 8:59 PM EST
    CA create more math ALUs. The Ss love the ones I run and I need to create more that are tied to an authentic problem to solve. #LATICchat
  • Tanya_IDE - Moderator Nov 30 @ 8:59 PM EST
    #Reflection is key! So important. Keep on keepin' on! #LATICchat