#IOLchat Archive
#IOLchat meets Wednesdays at 12PM ET to discuss trends and issues in online education.
Wednesday March 15, 2017
12:00 PM EDT
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Mar 15 @ 12:00 PM EDT
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:01 PM EDT
Welcome to
#IOLchat
! Who is joining in today?
#onlinelearning
#onlineteaching
#InsideOnlineLearning
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:06 PM EDT
Paul visiting today. Hope you have a warm, sunny day. 28 degrees in NC.
#iolchat
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:07 PM EDT
Hi Paul! It's sunny here, but certainly not warm. (Brrrrrrr) Hope you are staying warm!
#iolchat
In reply to @philosophypaul
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:08 PM EDT
Hello-- Greetings from Virginia where it is very cold :-(
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:09 PM EDT
Hi Jennifer. :) Yikes! Stay warm up there.
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In reply to @jshamsy
AssignmentHelpN
Mar 15 @ 12:10 PM EDT
#iolchat
#LDchat
10 Facts you Must Know Before Choosing Fashion Designing as a Career
https://t.co/OG8sswFB3s
massignmenthelp
Mar 15 @ 12:10 PM EDT
#iolchat
#LDchat
5 Daily Habits that will Boost your GPA
https://t.co/P32ItfDV0A
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:11 PM EDT
Here we go with today's topic: online student mentoring. Q1 coming up! ...
#iolchat
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:11 PM EDT
Q1) What does (or should)
#mentorship
look like in an online program?
#onlinelearning
#iolchat
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:12 PM EDT
Leading by example-- do what you say in terms of policies/structure
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jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:13 PM EDT
Keeping an eye out for those that are struggling and offer a hand
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:13 PM EDT
Modeling good (and expected) practices is critical!
#onlineteaching
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:14 PM EDT
Are you doing this?
#OnlineEd
#Mentors
RT
@jshamsy
Keeping an eye out for those that are struggling and offer a hand
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:14 PM EDT
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A1: flexible, accessible, clearly defined (limits/access etc.) for both stu-stu & fac-fac ???
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:14 PM EDT
Really like this one - anyone can do this and provide a source of mentorship, including classmates.
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:15 PM EDT
#iolchat
apologies all - running late amid many projects - Mike from NC State College in brisk Mansfield, ohio
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:15 PM EDT
Hello, Mike! Great to see you. :)
#iolchat
In reply to @OHMWelker
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:15 PM EDT
I think the clearly defined is even more important in
#onlinelearning
#iolchat
In reply to @OHMWelker, @CenterOnlineEd
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:15 PM EDT
A1 Northcentral U uses a 1-1 instructional and mentoring model. Ideal. Mentoring dependent on status of Ts & Ss
#IOLchat
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:17 PM EDT
formative "trip wires" a big thing I preach to new eLearning faculty... for intervention triggers and customizing lrng
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In reply to @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:17 PM EDT
By status do you mean - new vs. experienced? Agreed that 1:1 can be really powerful, esp. when both parties active
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In reply to @philosophypaul
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:17 PM EDT
Are you thinking formal mentoring or as-needed mentoring?
#IOLchat
In reply to @jshamsy, @OHMWelker, @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:18 PM EDT
#iolchat
Love that
@CanvasLMS
(and other, not as cool LMS') are developing tools to harvest data for useful summaries to act on.
In reply to @jshamsy, @CanvasLMS
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:18 PM EDT
Well directed formative assessment can mentor any at any stage. Yes.
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OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:17 PM EDT
formative "trip wires" a big thing I preach to new eLearning faculty... for intervention triggers and customizing lrng
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:19 PM EDT
We can take this topic either or both directions. Merit in informal and formal connections.
#iolchat
In reply to @philosophypaul, @jshamsy, @OHMWelker
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:19 PM EDT
For me, mostly interested in what's happening out there now, where there may be gaps...
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In reply to @philosophypaul, @jshamsy, @OHMWelker
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:19 PM EDT
I think both have benefits
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In reply to @CenterOnlineEd, @philosophypaul, @OHMWelker
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:20 PM EDT
Reply: Several formal mentor rel.: Faculty - TA; Faculty -Advisee; Director - Dissertation Grad S.; Instructor - S
#IOLchat
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:21 PM EDT
We're moving into Q2) How does
#mentoring
happen in your classes, programs, institutions, organizations?
#iolchat
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:21 PM EDT
Both mentoring relations valid, valuable -- informal & formal mentoring
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:19 PM EDT
We can take this topic either or both directions. Merit in informal and formal connections.
#iolchat
In reply to @philosophypaul, @jshamsy, @OHMWelker
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:23 PM EDT
A2
#IOLchat
E.g. Senior thesis mentor, Advisor mentor, make-up mentor for S on A Warning; and general mentor -- all happen
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:23 PM EDT
#iolchat
-
@EduventuresInc
had great study finding expectations key for low & hi perf stu-
https://t.co/FTPuwnJG7K
In reply to @jshamsy, @CenterOnlineEd, @EduventuresInc
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:24 PM EDT
And these are all different roles and people? Sounds like a great collection of resources for each student. :)
#iolchat
In reply to @philosophypaul
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:25 PM EDT
#iolchat
I know our formal fac mentoring program has some gaps but embedded stu tutors working
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd, @philosophypaul, @jshamsy
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:26 PM EDT
Reply: different Ss same instructor (with my many hats).
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In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:26 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing this! Mentoring could be a factor in several of the factors listed, I think.
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In reply to @OHMWelker
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:26 PM EDT
#iolchat
A2 - Jumped gun a bit there -- we have formal fac mentor prog only for newbies and for stu an embedded tutor prog..
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:27 PM EDT
In mine very informal -- university does have some formal - advisor opportunities
#iolchat
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:27 PM EDT
#iolchat
- for embedded stu we hear that informal mentoring is happening for stu-stu...
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:27 PM EDT
Fac mentoring another great topic. Saw some of this w/new online Ts years ago, but not lately
#iolchat
In reply to @OHMWelker, @philosophypaul, @jshamsy
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:27 PM EDT
I think there is benefits w/both -- different types of mentoring
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philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:28 PM EDT
Reply again: Should mention institutional mentors who are upper class course completers who mentor lower classes
#IOlchat
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:28 PM EDT
I also let Ss know that I am them - an online student - so I understand challenges
#iolchat
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:28 PM EDT
So many hats in this kind of work! I think we all wear a few, and the trade for more at some point.
#iolchat
In reply to @philosophypaul
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:29 PM EDT
This is fantastic! A great way to connect I think. Your presence in a course is multi-faceted to say the least.
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:29 PM EDT
some courses have a post of advice/tips from former Ss--love this idea
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In reply to @philosophypaul, @CenterOnlineEd
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:30 PM EDT
Important. Valuable Build rapport w Ss as a T who is a learner.
#IOLchat
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:28 PM EDT
I also let Ss know that I am them - an online student - so I understand challenges
#iolchat
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:30 PM EDT
Are you doing this?
#onlineteaching
RT
@jshamsy
some courses have a post of advice/tips from former Ss--love this idea
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:31 PM EDT
#iolchat
in my classes - distance and non -big believer in Stu teams for peer mentoring....
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:31 PM EDT
#iolchat
sometimes just have a peer 'translate' assignment requirements or grading expectations etc. is so powerful!
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:32 PM EDT
#IOLchat
Groups collaborate and collaboration is the context for mentoring. Great.
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:31 PM EDT
#iolchat
in my classes - distance and non -big believer in Stu teams for peer mentoring....
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:32 PM EDT
Is this happening organically or are these mentoring relationships assigned?
#iolchat
In reply to @OHMWelker
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:32 PM EDT
@jshamsy
#iolchat
Right out of Chickering & gamson 7 Best practices - Encourage stu-fac interaction!
In reply to @philosophypaul, @jshamsy
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:33 PM EDT
agreed - peer feedback and such can be great if well structured
#iolchat
In reply to @OHMWelker, @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:34 PM EDT
#iolchat
-- low-no institutional costs involved and really just org time for fac to do this...
In reply to @jshamsy, @philosophypaul, @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:35 PM EDT
Q3) How can students find
#mentors
when programs aren’t in place?
#onlineEd
#iolchat
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:37 PM EDT
#iolchat
Stu teams best practice (per great work of
@TBLearning
) is fac assigned groups and tasks
https://t.co/V7mbfHVPgc
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd, @TBLearning
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:37 PM EDT
A3 Ss seeking
#mentors
must be proactive to reach out to Ts, HelpDesk, peers, TAs, or Advisors. Make need known
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In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:38 PM EDT
#iolchat
but in general within a well integrated structured teamwork, mentoring can be organic
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:39 PM EDT
Yes! Taking the initiative is key to making these kinds of connections and building relationships.
#iolchat
In reply to @philosophypaul
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:39 PM EDT
A3) A few ideas here. Plus, I always like the "work with your Career Center" suggestion. ;)
https://t.co/YQ0zFJW0Dq
#iolchat
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:40 PM EDT
#iolchat
and destigmatize that mentor need = not sign of failure etc
In reply to @philosophypaul, @CenterOnlineEd
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:40 PM EDT
With groups or collaborative collectives the design makes available peer to peer mentoring possibility
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OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:38 PM EDT
#iolchat
but in general within a well integrated structured teamwork, mentoring can be organic
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:41 PM EDT
Absolutely true -> so different, and so much more! RT
@OHMWelker
#iolchat
and destigmatize that mentor need = not sign of failure etc
In reply to @OHMWelker
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:42 PM EDT
Yes. Recognizing need for mentor may be step forward. Someone said: "when the S is prepared the T will appear."
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OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:40 PM EDT
#iolchat
and destigmatize that mentor need = not sign of failure etc
In reply to @philosophypaul, @CenterOnlineEd
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:42 PM EDT
Need to provide an opportunity/spark and then let grow on its own - little value in forced
#iolchat
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:43 PM EDT
does require some effort -- but I think Return is worth it!
#iolchat
In reply to @OHMWelker, @philosophypaul, @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:44 PM EDT
#iolchat
"trip wires" to me equal small stakes reflections and understanding checks... from small quizzes to muddiest point ref
In reply to @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:44 PM EDT
I like this aspect of mentorship specifically - right people in right circumstances, timing = mutual interest, growth
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:45 PM EDT
#iolchat
Angelo & Cross' 50 C.A.T.s is a great set of specific ideas to draw from for these:
https://t.co/Tgwt5Tadeb
In reply to @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:46 PM EDT
Last Q of this week's topic coming up ...
#iolchat
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:47 PM EDT
#iolchat
and thenrein lies the rub - think a lot of fac giveup on peer struc activities as they take iteration
In reply to @jshamsy, @CenterOnlineEd
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:48 PM EDT
Need a little analysis too - what do Ss need? Tailor programs to that - need/pref medium/etc.
#iolchat
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:49 PM EDT
But once you get the structure in place ... results! Peer activities part of all the courses I currently teach.
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In reply to @OHMWelker, @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:49 PM EDT
Great reminder to focus on learners - different at different schools, programs, courses.
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:50 PM EDT
Q4) What makes a good mentor? How can s/he assist
#onlinestudents
with school success and beyond?
#iolchat
jshamsy
Mar 15 @ 12:51 PM EDT
Someone that has best interest of S in mind and wants to help them learn-not just tell them what they know
#iolchat
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:53 PM EDT
#mentors
RT
@jshamsy
Someone that has best interest of S in mind and wants to help them learn-not just tell them what they know
#iolchat
In reply to @jshamsy
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:53 PM EDT
#iolchat
eyes on prize and long game :)
In reply to @CenterOnlineEd, @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:54 PM EDT
#mentors
RT
@OHMWelker
@CenterOnlineEd
@jshamsy
#iolchat
eyes on prize and long game :)
In reply to @OHMWelker, @CenterOnlineEd, @jshamsy
philosophypaul
Mar 15 @ 12:54 PM EDT
A4 Qualities of grt. online mentor: empathy, experience online, interest in Ss success, willing to listen; IDs need
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In reply to @CenterOnlineEd
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:55 PM EDT
#iolchat
and recasting a mentor as not an 'in trouble' BAD thing but a valuable and needed guide for every stu/ aspiring pro
In reply to @jshamsy
OHMWelker
Mar 15 @ 12:55 PM EDT
#iolchat
mentorship= every Luke Skywalker needs a Yoda :)
In reply to @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:56 PM EDT
"Guide" is a great alternative title here. :) And another characteristic: willing to show the ropes, encourage
#iolchat
In reply to @OHMWelker, @jshamsy
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:57 PM EDT
Who is your
#OnlineEd
Yoda? ;) RT
@OHMWelker
@jshamsy
#iolchat
mentorship= every Luke Skywalker needs a Yoda :)
In reply to @OHMWelker, @jshamsy
WGCompSci
Mar 15 @ 12:57 PM EDT
Q1: Mentorship can look like rolemodeling appropriate behaviors. Lead by example.
#IOLchat
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 12:58 PM EDT
Hello, Mark! Thanks for jumping in :)
#iolchat
In reply to @WGCompSci