#formativechat Archive
Discuss the implementation, impact of Formative and formative assessment.
Monday January 11, 2016
7:00 PM EST
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Feel free to join tonight! Digital Citizenship for more than Students!
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Today we are fortunate to have both + with be co-moderating with me!
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Hey Phiona! Welcome back! How's the weather where you are?
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Hello ! Chatting from West Central Indiana. COLD but no snow. :-(
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Hello ...also from West Central Indiana :)
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Welcome everyone! Please introduce yourself and let us know how the weather is where you're at!
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Thank you - it's cooollllddd! and windy. Perfect for being indoors and on :).
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Hey there ! Laura here from Florida.
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Hi all, Niko from Bangkok, it seems that winter is over and we are heading towards the hot season
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Hey Laura, great to have you with us! How's the weather in Florida? let me guess, nice!
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Hey Laura, great to have you with us! How's the weather in Florida? let me guess, nice!
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Hey . Mike from State College, PA. Cold & windy!
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My brother lives in Orlando. He loves to tell me how warm it is there!
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Great to have you with us Mike!
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Hi . Shai from State College, PA. Math teacher. Tech geek (just ordered my google cardboard) and the weather is COLD. :(
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Welcome back Niko! Does it get cold in Thailand??
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You're in the wrong location for ! :)
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Hey Shai, great to have you with us!
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Thanks David. Blog is done.
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Hello COLD sounds right! Any snow falling your way?
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Hi Mary, HS business teacher from CT
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Awesome! Can't wait to share it with others and post it on our blog!
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...welcome. CT just sounds cold!
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Hi Mary, great to have you with us! Hows the weather in CT? any snow?
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Hello ! Welcome!!!! How's the weather where you are?!
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IDK. It's dark and can't tell. I think we are suppose to get something though. It's so cold that my app says....
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We are going to get started with Q1 in a moment!
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And I'm originally from Chicago, too. Weird right? Just can't help myself. Saban is the man!
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starting to get chilly, finally the possibility of snow tmrw :)
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Q1 coming up! Remember to use the Q1 and A1 format!
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Hello ! Peter from Chicago Suburbs. Six o'clock has been tough lately but enjoyed reading conversations and glad to back.
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Hey Peter, great to have you with us! We've been sharing weather reports! How's Chicago?
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Hi everyone! I'm Jennifer from Florida. I'm a coordinator at NEFEC. The weather here is cool and sunny! I love it!
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Q1 How would you define digital citizenship in two words?
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A1: Rights and Responsibilities
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A1: responsible connections
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Genise, Administrator in Birmingham. Hello all!
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Digit Citizenship = Understanding Impact...
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A1: Responsibly connected
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just favorited that! Hope that's a good thing??
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A1: Digit Citizenship = Understanding Impact...
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Welcome Genise! How's the weather there??
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HI Maria! I'm happy to join the conversation and learn from all of you. 😊
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Q1: How do you define Digital Citizenship in two words?
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Totally agree! Our digital actions leave footprints and an impact
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Understanding impact of our decisions can be complicated!
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Two words is not enough but worth considering!
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Teaching MS, students do not always get the lasting impact they are making...
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Hi, sorry to miss great topic! ,discussd in book study last nt
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I think it's a great way synthesize things you know about it!
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even more so when we don't see immediate consequences
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and even as adults, our actions can have lasting impacts on each other!
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GREAT Point. Impact may come years later.
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I first said, "Responsibly connected." However, I love 's comment, "Understanding impact."
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Definitely. Students must understand the impact of their digital decisions.
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Would probably just say THINK!!!!!
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Q2 is up! "Should digital citizenship only apply to students?"
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A2: should apply adults = role models = teachers = trend setters! Kids will mirror our actions!
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A2: We ALL have to be accountable. As Ts we should not put things out there that we would be afraid of Ss finding.
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A2: Absolutely NOT! No, no, no!
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We can comm across time/space; we have global audiences &the perfect pulpit to preach from - our lessons should be positive
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A2 should apply to anyone & everyone in all professions. Especially critical for admins & Ts to model
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What do teachers need to consider as digital citizens?
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A2: stated "If you want to see how you act online, watch your Ss or kids!" It becomes real!
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Interesting! Ideas for modeling ?
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A2: can't say it loud enough - EVERYBODY needs to be good digital citizens
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A2: No! Guide by example!
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Ts need to consider EVERY ASPECT of being a digital citizenship. Actions speak louder than words.
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A2 Applies to all, Ss, Ts, everyone accountable, resp use, we all need to model approp use :)
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What are some things teachers can still work on learning about ?
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Everything! We need to make sure we are modeling what we would expect from everyone else.
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A2: Everyone who engages in technology use should be aware and adhere to appropriate digital communication and etiquette.
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A2: We model behavior in real life, we must do that online as well
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Love this! https://t.co/lbwo4qydI6
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A2: should apply adults = role models = teachers = trend setters! Kids will mirror our actions!
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Facebook posts. Word usage online. Images posted online. Privacy of personal life.
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A2: adults should be responsible - should teach/model appropriate use
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Completely agree! https://t.co/MztzBpOFa0
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A2: should apply adults = role models = teachers = trend setters! Kids will mirror our actions!
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Hi :) I will mostly be out tonight, but trying to follow and chime in some!
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ideas for modeling digital citizenship?
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It is just sad that the people with the most online following are often those with the worst .
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A must. We all have our digital footprints on display.
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Quite a critical issue is it not? Sends a poor message to students! Do bad and get attention.
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A2: I've seen class accounts on twitter! Seem like great ways to understand it as communities that have rules of ettiquite
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every adult should do the Google power search course
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have to keep reminding myself of this when we do projects in school; easier to say "no, don't need to cite"
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Teachers need to be held accountable to what they put out on social media. My philosophy: Would my dad like/appreciate it?
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Citing the sources we use; watching how/what we use/post; using digital platforms for good etc. https://t.co/FbbuVJN9J8
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ideas for modeling digital citizenship?
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A3: we have to be. Who knows what will go viral...good or bad behavior.
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It's different for our Ss to ask that same question though. Our parents have different thoughts often times than we do.
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A3: The actions of one teacher can change the reputation of a district in an instant! Negative PR is lethal for everyone!
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Definitely a critical issue. We are expected 2 communicate norms 2 Ss. Must model responsible behaviors
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And positive PR can really make a community/school look incredible.
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A3: same rules should apply no matter where we are and when
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A3: I am seeing younger Ts not consider such things. Is this the case everywhere?
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A3: I think so if it makes directly affects the employer.
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A3 As members of organizations charged with cultivating competent, productive & empathic citizens...? Uh, yes!
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so true - bad news/behavior is always broadcast loud and clear
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Especially since some of the Ps that my students have are younger than me. I tell my Ss, "Would grandma approve?"
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A3: I always kept my personal life private online!
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A3: Ts must understand the impact our actions do to a community. We're in a public position, fair or not,have to be mindfull.
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And also privacy with certain matters!
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A3: Ts must understand the impact our actions do to a community. We're in a public position, fair or not, have to be mindful.
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Whenever posting online as a teacher and relating to education, I thought about "How will this impact my school, staff, Ss?
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A3: Sometimes we have no idea what Ss are looking up to us.
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I loveYoung Ts but I wonder if colleges prep them to understand what Social Media does other than share things
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I keep my circle very small on social media that is personal.
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A3: Yes to an extent. If we are tagged on something that appears on our pages, no. If we post it, yes.
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A3: Accountability is essential. Digital
etiquette rules apply to Ts also. Must communicate with regard for integrity.
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Definitely! It's part of the profession!
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How much social media etiquette is taught to Ts in college?
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We are responsible to many people as Teachers posting on social media! https://t.co/KvzKvnKjaf
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Whenever posting online as a teacher and relating to education, I thought about "How will this impact my school, staff, Ss?
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Good point, Laura. Can't be responsible for other people's posts.
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Not enough but is really stepping it up with the EdTech class now.
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A3: Thoughts and pics posted online help paint a picture for others. Be careful of the pic you are painting. We are models.
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I do know tries to teach her preservice Ss proper social media etiquette.
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Integrity, great word! Represent yourself & your opinions but do so in a way that respects the opinions of others
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A4: We all get excited at the novelty of starting. We have to understand that Ss feel that same novelty.
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A4: So, I LOVE the middle. Episode Jan 6th. I laughed so hard! For copyright, we edited that text a bit.
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AWESOME point !! novelty causes excitement and sometimes blinds judgement?
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A4: I have no clue what that even means, so, maybe a feeling of confusion. What's that even mean?
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Agree Maria! As little as one tweet is so easily sent, but the impact can stick forever
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People from impressions with their eyes first. It can be hard to change that!
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Congrats for focusing on Netiquette with Social Media! Bravo!
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In the episode, dad gets a Twitter set up and has no idea how to correctly use it.
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A4: it makes me giggle a little and think of the 80 year old lady next door that got a new tablet for Christmas!
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Mike Heck just started on Twitter. He used Twittered rather than Tweeted. Hilarious! :)
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Yes, sounds like engaging in effective communication skills.
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It took me a while to think through. He's experiencing surprise at how quickly he's become a user once joining Twitter
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A4: We have to realize there's a teaching opportunity, right?
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A4: This also makes me think. Do we need proper action terminology or just the proper action?
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No TV for me, just Twitter chats
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Love the positivity! Social media can be great for self expression and connecting with others!
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At least that's the way I interpret it!
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IMHO Language provides clarity but shouldn't be like a vice-grip
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I don't even know what the middle is. So, that is my issue I think. So, stay naive and it doesn't matter, right?
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"With great power comes great responsibility"-Uncle Ben, Spiderman
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A4: The user is learning and is impressed with his ability to engage.
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In no time - he'll be tweeting
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Me too! Isn't there something important on tonight? Our TV is never on.
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I still get excited and impressed with myself sometimes when I "twitter" something!
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Any conversation that prompts Spiderman quotes is a good thing!
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Tweet of the night from David right here!
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A5 *palm to forehead*? :)
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Let's start a movement replace tweet with twitter! :-) Tweeted = Twittered
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A5: This is a tough situation!
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Heck, I was surprised. I joined twitter and right away I had 5 followers that I had no idea who they were. LOL.
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A5 Reach out to T immediately but privately & - from a place of care & concern - tactfully share your thinking
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A5: going to have to ask them what's up, can be awkward
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A5 shake my head, have seen this often, sometimes awkwd to address, but use a "hint" of some sort to guide them
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A5: let them know! delve into the impact it can have. if you know them, it's definitely easier
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I saw this over holiday break and just really did not know what to do. I felt stuck!
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what did you end up doing in the end?
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key thing you wrote, go to them privately
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A5: This actually happened (w/friend). I said something about being careful. Was told to mind my own business.
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Agree, despite your own feelings, they will only change if they learn!
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Honestly, I have yet to bring it up. Sensitive individual. Fear of causing waves bigger than I can surf.
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A5: Chat time with T. Discuss responsibility 2 adhering 2 ethical behavior, discuss footprint Question T, discuss rectifying
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A5: I would send a PM and let them know it may be seen by people not intended for, and ask if they're ready to defend it.
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A5: Proceed with caution - point out how it may be perceived & the potential repercussions
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But at least you tried...and the consequences won't be weighing on you.
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A5: Lived this w/ a new T. I offered my opinion, she considered and removed it, and we built a great friendship.
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That is all you can do. Make the effort and let it lay as it will.
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that's the best when you truly are only trying to help grrrr.....
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I did. It didn't stop the individual AND he still does. SMH.
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I dropped it. Not my problem. He is a younger/newer teacher.
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Throwing this out there, what if you are that teacher's administrator, have to do anything different?
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I cannot understd how some post pics/status during school and selfies, etc. abt Ss.
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FB during school is a tough issue. I Tweet but it is part of my job. :)
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If it falls into anyone's lap most, it would def be administrator's situation.
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Good quesiton ! I think it would be wise to offer wisdom as Admin before Super gets to it!
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A5: When it is a peer, it is so much easier when you have a good relationship. I have also ignored out of fear of reaction.
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All comes down to knowing approp uses/etc. Some miss the lessons on this
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Same here. I tweet only when I am not responsible for Ss.
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Great question. Wouldn't that admin be obligated to?
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Excited to see back in ny on Thursday! Looking forward to a fun day
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Could require written documentation.
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Depends on the admin. Some I would say something to, other's I would not. I would hope an admin knows better.
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that's what I was thinking; I am very much a gray-matter type of person, if I was Admin not sure what I'd do
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Agree..."Digital citizenship" is really just citizenship.
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A6: I address this at the beginning of the school year, and let them (and parents) know it won't happen.
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A6: Ss must graduate to be my FB friend. Church Youth Group kids can friend me but I monitor behavior and often unfriend
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Are you talking if an admin does something inappropriate or if an admin sees something being done?
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A6: Only if it is dedicated to school use. i.e. my youtube channel that is for school.
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I'm not even friends with former students! Though work email works!
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A6: no way, no how. You can't take that risk.
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A6: Ss can follow me on Twitter, I use it strictly for ed and don't follow them. FB I don't friend until after graduation.
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Admin has a responsibility to respond.
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A6: Even those who have graduated, undergo some serious scrutiny! I think I only have 8 former students right now/
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A6: I do address. No followers (when I have control over it) until the Ss graduate. I don't do instagram or snap-chat.
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A6: upfront with everyone, I tell Ss when you graduate HS, then send me the request and even then, maybe
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Most have forgotten their 8th grade math T by then! :)
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For sure! "Even then, maybe..."
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I read the question as the admin did something inappropriate. Would T say something to admin.
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They don't forget their music or tech teacher! :-)
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makes this a big point...he looks over profiles before following.
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No one ever forgets their math teacher do they? Middle School math is the best!
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I was thinking teacher - if Admin, a whole other issue!
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A6 Kidlets knew their friend request was getting declined but if they want to follow nerdy teacher tweets, party on
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Would depend upon the school climate, trust factor and the level of collaboration.
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When my son was in HS, all of his friends wanted to be my friend on FB. He would tell them they have to wait.
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A7: if you're not prepared to explain it to admin, parents and students, don't post it.
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