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IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:00 PM EDT

Welcome to this week's #IOLchat :) Who's joining in today? https://t.co/kGGSeMZ5AD

ajwalshiv Mar 30 @ 12:02 PM EDT

@IOLblog Andrew Walsh, Instructional Technologist/Instructor. Will be "listening" in today. #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:03 PM EDT

Hello from Colin Easom with Pima Medical Institute Online. Finally able to re-join #IOLChat :)

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:04 PM EDT

@ajwalshiv Hello Andrew! Feel free to jump in any time. :) Thanks for listening in. #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:05 PM EDT

Calling @jshamsy for #IOLChat ... are we both gonna make it today?!? ;)

ajwalshiv Mar 30 @ 12:05 PM EDT

@IOLblog Should be an intersting topic. Will see if I can comment or ask questions. No experience switching LMS.. at least not yet. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:05 PM EDT

@ceasom Hello there, Colin! Great to have you back! #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:06 PM EDT

@IOLblog We can access Twitter on wifi at work but not the hard-wired connection. Oh well... Glad to be here for #IOLChat :)

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:07 PM EDT

@ceasom That's just crazy. #IOLchat But glad you're able to access one way or another.

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:09 PM EDT

Q1 coming up! ... Surviving an #LMS Switch #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:09 PM EDT

Will be in and out today :-). Jennifer from ATL - grad student and adjunct online learning #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:10 PM EDT

@jshamsy Hey there, Jennifer! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:11 PM EDT

Q1) How often do you experience a switch? #LMS #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:13 PM EDT

Have only ever experienced a switch in #LMS when changing jobs so far, but we've considered implications of a switch here #IOLChat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:13 PM EDT

@staceymargarita Thanks for the RT Stacey! #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:13 PM EDT

A2) about when I get settled - every couple of years unfortunately #iolchat

ajwalshiv Mar 30 @ 12:14 PM EDT

@IOLblog A1 For me, I remember when I was a student and Bb took over WebCT. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:14 PM EDT

@ceasom How long have you been using the one you are using now? #IOLchat What sparks the covo to consider a switch?

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:15 PM EDT

@jshamsy Ha! That sounds more like my experience - every 3-5 years. And with two schools, it can mean a lot of switching around. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:16 PM EDT

@ajwalshiv I remember that too! WebCT was the one I started with (way back) and then the school moved to Bb #IOLchat Everyone was confused.

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:17 PM EDT

Using Blackboard for 5 years now. I came from eCollege at my last job. Switch consideration is based on pricing, tech capabilities #iolchat

ajwalshiv Mar 30 @ 12:17 PM EDT

@IOLblog I only have experience with Bb as a student and in my work. I've "explored" or reviewed others. Nothing extensive. #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:17 PM EDT

@ajwalshiv @IOLblog WebCT was my first ever LMS experience in online learning - actually worked well! #IOLchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:18 PM EDT

@IOLblog yes! Luckily there are becoming variations on the same themes #IOLchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:18 PM EDT

@ceasom I just think with many you are paying for options that you don't or shouldn't use #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:19 PM EDT

@ceasom That's a pretty good chunk of time. Pricing seems to be a lot of the decision. #IOLchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:19 PM EDT

@jshamsy Agreed. Some options can be turned off, but you still pay for them whether used or not #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:21 PM EDT

Q2) How much lead time do you usually have? How long does the switch usually take to complete? #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:21 PM EDT

@jshamsy Q2 may be mainly for us. :) #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:22 PM EDT

@ceasom sounds a lot like car shopping - do I really need heated seats? #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:23 PM EDT

A2) I've had more than a year to prepare and a little less than a year. But that seems to be the general timeframe. #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:24 PM EDT

A2) @ceasom would know about that -- it does seem like it takes a semester or two to shake out #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:27 PM EDT

A2) I agree with @Melissa_Venable that a year is about right to choose and switch #LMS effectively. Lots of ripple effects. #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:28 PM EDT

It's common to run old and new #LMS simultaneously and transition over slowly for a semester or two #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:28 PM EDT

Q3) What are the most important features of an #LMS to focus on in a transition or when considering a switch? #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:29 PM EDT

@ceasom I've seen that, too. A slow roll-over with a final semester when the old system will be active and available. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:31 PM EDT

@ceasom wondering now about the impact of that on students - some courses in new system, others in old. #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:31 PM EDT

@IOLblog One solution would be to teach out a cohort on the old system and bring new cohorts onto the new #LMS. Avoids confusion #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:34 PM EDT

@ceasom I like that idea! #IOLchat May add to the logistical hurdles behind the scenes, but could be effective option.

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:35 PM EDT

@IOLblog It's a tracking nightmare for the operations team, but seamless for students #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:36 PM EDT

@ceasom Sometimes we need to really revisit priorities. ;) #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:36 PM EDT

Q4) What can students and instructors do to prepare for a new #LMS? #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:39 PM EDT

@IOLblog Try to be ahead of the learning curve; tutorials/workshops on new system ahead of time, practice.orientation course #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:41 PM EDT

@ceasom I think this is where the timeframe expands - on the admin side it may take more like 2 years, to build training resources #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:42 PM EDT

@IOLblog Agreed. From initial selection of new #LMS to final implementation could be two years or even longer. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:43 PM EDT

@ceasom Yes! What the faculty and students experience is just one(last) phase of the overall project. #LMS #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:45 PM EDT

@IOLblog There has to be several dry runs behind the scenes with "fake" courses receiving robust testing by admin/faculty #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:45 PM EDT

@IOLblog @ceasom This should be at the forefront! #iolchat -clear idea of what you are trying to accomplish - can get lost in bells/whistles

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:45 PM EDT

Last Q ... Q5) Are there alternatives to using an #LMS in online ed? #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:45 PM EDT

@IOLblog Be proactive - ask questions....do some research on your own - think about how this might affect you/students #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:46 PM EDT

A5) think there are lots of Web 2.0 tools that you can put together an LMS -- it is only a medium not the instruction #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:46 PM EDT

@IOLblog Yes, but depends on the purpose of your "courses". Basic training could be provided with YouTube links and Google Docs #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:47 PM EDT

@jshamsy Yup! The LMS brings everything together for progress tracking, but many tools can be used to get the job done #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:48 PM EDT

@ceasom True enough - a lot of variables here. I've known faculty members to go rogue and create their own course sites, too. #IOLchat

participatelrn Mar 30 @ 12:49 PM EDT

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ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:50 PM EDT

@IOLblog Progress tracking, "attendance" = considerations for using #LMS Integration with student info systems like CampusVue too #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:51 PM EDT

Separate tools may provide an online "course" but don't provide formal data tracking and integration for report production, etc #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:52 PM EDT

@ceasom Good point! There are a lot of "behind the scenes" connections between LMS and non-instructional functions #IOLchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:53 PM EDT

@ceasom Nice thing about LMS is keeps it simple - all in one spot w/plug-ins-good learner analysis will help determine solution #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:53 PM EDT

@IOLblog LOL I guess I have my admin & accreditation hat on today instead of an educator's ;) #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:53 PM EDT

@ceasom I rarely use those tracking tools... =( #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:55 PM EDT

@jshamsy I don't think most instructors use those tools, but admin needs the data for accreditation, state, and dept of ed reports #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:55 PM EDT

@ceasom It helps to have all of the relevant perspectives in attendance. ;) #IOLchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:56 PM EDT

We even analyse pass rates and cross ref with who taught to see if there are any correlations with grade distributions #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:57 PM EDT

We’re nearing the end of the #IOLchat hour... Thanks to @ajwalshiv @ceasom and @jshamsy for jumping in this week. :) :) :) #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:57 PM EDT

We’re nearing the end of the #IOLchat hour... Thanks to @ajwalshiv @ceasom and @jshamsy for jumping in this week. :) :) :) #iolchat

ceasom Mar 30 @ 12:57 PM EDT

LOTS data mining and analysis behind the scenes for quality assurance, retention, etc. LMS data helps that process #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:57 PM EDT

@ceasom I think this is where a more systemic/holistic plan would come into play - most aren't using that #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:58 PM EDT

@ceasom I.e..instructors just teach/IDers just design .. need to get a collaborative effort together - get rid of the silos! #iolchat

jshamsy Mar 30 @ 12:58 PM EDT

@ceasom I can totally see the use in that! #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 30 @ 12:58 PM EDT

@ceasom Wow! That's fascinating. #IOLchat Really using all the data!