#TeachWriting Archive
#TeachWriting chat is where educators talk about writing instruction. Every other Tuesday @ 9pm ET/8pm CT.
Tuesday October 17, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
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- Moderator
Oct 17 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#TeachWriting
, the bi-weekly chat about writing instruction. Our moderator tonight is
@AngelaStockman
- take it away, Angela!
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Hi, all! I'm Angela from western NY. Happy to be co-moderating tonight.
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Oct 17 @ 9:00 PM EDT
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Welcome to
#TeachWriting
all! I hope you'll say hi and tell us how you feel about your current writing curriculum!
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I'm Ben - I teach 6th grade science and social studies in the Chicago area. Excited to be chatting about this.
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Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A0
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Gary from near Philly. Current Write Curric is always wrk in prog. all about process and feedback, but time consuming
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
How do you support writing in your curriculum, Ben?
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
upahk
Oct 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hello! Kaylin from Colorado. I'm worried about writing curriculum preventing Ss from being able to write authentically.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Gary! Good to see you here, and grateful for pushing my thinking on my blog, too.
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In reply to @Ed_by_design
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
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Vicki Den Ouden from Kelowna, BC, Canada
#sd23learns
We have a new curriculum here. We explore inquiry and core competencies.
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
I try to coordinate instruction with our reading/writing teacher, and offer a lot of written options for projects.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
This was always my greatest concern in the classroom. Remains a big question in my current life, too.
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In reply to @upahk
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
We also do a lot of write-to-learn stuff, including journals and quick-writes.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
I'm so glad you're here, Vicki! You have much to add to this conversation.
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In reply to @vicki_den
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What do you want your legacy to be as a teacher of writing?
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome, Vicki!
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In reply to @vicki_den
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome, Kaylin!
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In reply to @AngelaStockman, @upahk
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
This matters so much. Do you do fully processed pieces too?
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Arina Bokas Composition instructor MI
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MsDesberg
Oct 17 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: fantastic question ... I don't know but I better think long & hard about it. Looking forward to hearing what
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shares.
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What do you want your legacy to be as a teacher of writing?
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Less so. We don't often have time to workshop specific pieces. I wish.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Arina! Welcome! I'm going to retweet Q1 in a sec....
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In reply to @arinabokas
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: A protocol for defining our vision+aligning with students':
https://t.co/7giZaKaOU5
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
The first time I was asked this question, I was flabbergasted by the realization that I'd never thought on it before.
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In reply to @MsDesberg
upahk
Oct 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: I want to show Ss how writing can help them in their real lives. I want them to see it as a pleasurable craft, not a chore
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MsRutkowskiWTE
Oct 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Hello! Taylor from New Jersey! I am currently a student teacher in Pennsylvania just checking out the chat!
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@arinabokas
This protocol was powerful for me. Might help generate some good thoughts.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: A protocol for defining our vision+aligning with students':
https://t.co/7giZaKaOU5
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Welcome!
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In reply to @MsRutkowskiWTE
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
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A1. That my students learned something about the craft and that they find joy in writing
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What do you want your legacy to be as a teacher of writing?
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holley0104
Oct 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: I want my Ss to become confident in their writing for any purpose and any audience they encounter in college or career.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Q2: What matters most to the writers you support?
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Englishgeek305
Oct 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Q1: Jumping in. I want legacy to be Ss who consider themselves writers. ❤️writing and have a voice they want the 🌎 to hear.
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 - I want to know that I've helped my Ss find use and value in writing. That they don't just do it for school.
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arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
My legacy is in leaving each student with better understanding of who she/he is a human being.
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A1
MsDesberg
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: sometimes grades :(. Mostly feedback they can use to evolve :).
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Q2: What matters most to the writers you support?
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holley0104
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: Sharing their message!
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Wonder how self-aware students are. How tuned in are they, really, to own needs? I'm learning a lot about this right now.
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In reply to @upahk
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1
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Legacy--Ss see Writing as discovery. Writing as composing thoughts in surprising ways...to others as well as to self.
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Hi Taylor! Welcome!
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In reply to @MsRutkowskiWTE
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2 - Sometimes grades, sometimes having a chance to write something meaningful. Often getting stuff done.
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vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
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I read this today. Fantastic work, Angela! Student choice and voice is so important. Co-creating ... their school & learning
In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I think about community, too. More and more often...college, career, community for me.
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In reply to @holley0104
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: Launching a writing workshop unit by rooting writers in empathy:
https://t.co/B8wvyggEQY
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Yay! Hi Jill! This is a beautiful sentiment. So important.
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In reply to @Englishgeek305
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2
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I've removed "grades" & am focused on feedback. I'd like to think saying something meaningful to the world, not just me.
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
This.
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arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
My legacy is in leaving each student with better understanding of who she/he is a human being.
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A1
MsDesberg
Oct 17 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Yes! Actually, most of the writing I do now is for community -- school, neighbors, family, friends.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman, @holley0104
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Work that is relatively new to me and a little bit risky, too. Learning much.
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In reply to @vicki_den
Englishgeek305
Oct 17 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2: Being HEARD. Such excitement to share. Not being discouraged. Knowing they have something to say worthy of an audience.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q3: How do you support students, meet standards, and live your legacy, too?
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Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1a
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I want Ss who approach the world in writerly ways. The approach is impt. Not all will be "Writers" but will "write"
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Oh, yes. Sadly. How do we shift their thinking? This is a huge challenge for me as well.
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In reply to @MsDesberg
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Is this what you're noticing, Diane? Or is it what your system values, do you think?
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In reply to @danusz
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Check out
#tg2chat
and
https://t.co/6Fq6RbJaLT
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In reply to @AngelaStockman, @MsDesberg
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
What matters most to my writers is freedom to be who they are as they are discovering their voice and purpose. A2
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A3 - This is challenging, balancing these things. It helps that my legacy often fits with students. Standards stretch, though.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Yeah. I'm wondering if it does more harm than good when it's just "getting stuff done." What do you think?
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Great recs. Thanks!
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In reply to @Ed_by_design, @MsDesberg
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Yes! Being heard; authentic audience.
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Englishgeek305
Oct 17 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2: Being HEARD. Such excitement to share. Not being discouraged. Knowing they have something to say worthy of an audience.
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vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Me too. I wonder if I am doing it "right" but I'd rather make a few mistakes than keep doing same old same old.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman
holley0104
Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A3: Teaching the standards allows us to give Ss the tools they need to become advocates in their own learning.
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
There's a lot of variety in that, often little reflection. Not sure that it's harmful. . . maybe over time.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A3: I'm trying this with a few different teaching teams this year:
https://t.co/ZsxfZmdsA6
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
I honestly think this is some of the most important work we could be doing right now. Grades impede so much of what's good.
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Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2
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I've removed "grades" & am focused on feedback. I'd like to think saying something meaningful to the world, not just me.
MsDesberg
Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A3: Teach the writer (not the writing). Refer to W1, 2, 3 writing standards when planning!
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q3: How do you support students, meet standards, and live your legacy, too?
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vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
More and more I am learning how important it is to present authentic tasks where students feel heard and empowered
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Do your kids value grades too much like others are suggesting here, Jill?
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In reply to @Englishgeek305
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Right there with you.
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In reply to @vicki_den
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A3 I also agree with focusing less on grades, I provide descriptive feedback, need to work on making it more timely
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Englishgeek305
Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q#: My legacy writing w Ss & valuing writing/sharing . Meet stds. w feedback & valuing alt. forms of expression.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
How'd ya' get them to value this more than grades? Asking for a friend. :))
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In reply to @arinabokas
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Best kind, IMO. Even if it's feeling heard about something small.
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In reply to @vanderwalc
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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That it's fun! I work with elementary students ... most have a learning disability. Vulnerable readers and writers.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I like hearing this. So much about implementation isn't in what we see in the standards, but how we see.
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In reply to @holley0104
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Writing's deeply personal. Relatonships/trust are a must. Then purpose. Then technique (standards) to accomplish it. A3
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q3: How do you support students, meet standards, and live your legacy, too?
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Can you say more about this, Patrick? Interesting idea.... How to, in your experience?
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In reply to @PresidentPat
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Q4: What excites you about the idea of co-designed curriculum?
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
This is what the world will expect of them. This is our real work, in my experience. Hardest, too...perhaps.
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vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
More and more I am learning how important it is to present authentic tasks where students feel heard and empowered
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arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
By focusing on the process of writing. Everything in in this.
https://t.co/S9GHMMDgGD
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
How'd ya' get them to value this more than grades? Asking for a friend. :))
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In reply to @arinabokas
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
So challenging. I like to peer over the shoulders and provide fdbk on small bits daily, as much as possible.
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In reply to @vanderwalc
MsRutkowskiWTE
Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3 I think it's important for teachers to focus less on grades so the students are less focused on the score& more on feedback
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holley0104
Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A4: Student's voice in their own learning.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Hi Katie!! You are welcome. Hope you make it better and share again.
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In reply to @Katiemc827
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A4 - Letting them do the work! And getting more engaging results than if I did it myself (I hope!)
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Englishgeek305
Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q4: Excitement of choice. Not T directing ownership, but Ss creating own form of expression. Empower the author!
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vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Do you write on sticky notes?
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
So challenging. I like to peer over the shoulders and provide fdbk on small bits daily, as much as possible.
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In reply to @vanderwalc
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing, Arina. Bookmarking to return to.
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arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
By focusing on the process of writing. Everything in in this.
https://t.co/S9GHMMDgGD
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
How'd ya' get them to value this more than grades? Asking for a friend. :))
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In reply to @arinabokas
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:25 PM EDT
#teachwriting
A3. We have "Core Competencies" here in BC. Building communication skills in all strands, along w/ crit. & creative thinking
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q3: How do you support students, meet standards, and live your legacy, too?
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A4: I'm realizing that unless curriculum is co-designed, I'll never know if what I'm imposing is meaningful or relevant to Ss.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I often do, yes. Gives me an anchor to return to on my next visit, too. They know not to remove them. Also document in
@Seesaw
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In reply to @vanderwalc, @Seesaw
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yes! Totally agree.
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In reply to @arinabokas
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A4: So excited, when I plan with students, is when the energy in the room heightens, it is so authentic and empowering for all
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Katiemc827
Oct 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A4: The connections Ss can make if different disciplines are part of design. We need to stop writing and working in silos.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
I'm wondering what more we can do to help Ts who are locked in traditional reporting systems shift practices in healthy ways.
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MsRutkowskiWTE
Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3 I think it's important for teachers to focus less on grades so the students are less focused on the score& more on feedback
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vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Small bits ... love it!
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Feedback can be so overwhelming for kids if there's too much.
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Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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I 2 agree. But hasn't process focus been at the fore since Don Graves, Peter Elbow, Lucy Calkins, etc? That's 60s and 70s
In reply to @arinabokas
KellyTumy
Oct 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Kelly......sliding in after a devastating
@astros
loss...
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Process around the bit, not the draft. My mantra. Game changer, in my world. And it decreases paper load, too.Less HW for Ts.
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In reply to @vicki_den, @vanderwalc
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Integration is huge. Writing as part of inquiry and
#PBL
makes it more authentic
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In reply to @Katiemc827, @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Agreed. How I process+encourage kids to process has changed quite a bit, though. You?
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In reply to @Ed_by_design, @arinabokas
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Back to Houston, though, right? We Cleveland fans need you guys to finish strong!
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In reply to @KellyTumy, @astros
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q5: How might we co-design curriculum with our students?
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Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
As
@arinabokas
notes--process focus: but slow it down and provide, as she does, chances for deep observation and upfront work
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In reply to @AngelaStockman, @arinabokas
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Oh, no! Hi Kelly. I'm glad you're here. I hope we can ease your pain a bit.
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In reply to @KellyTumy, @astros
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
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continuums, digital portfolios ... modeling and mentoring ... walk through it with them ... no judgement
In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I believe so. But how often are kids at the table? In my world, not so often.
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In reply to @BenBo370
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Yes..true.
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In reply to @AngelaStockman, @arinabokas
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Now you're speaking my language . . .
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In reply to @vanderwalc, @Katiemc827, @AngelaStockman
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Good idea!
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Small morsels not the whole buffet!
In reply to @AngelaStockman, @vanderwalc
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A5 - If we're pursuing kids' interests, or they are pursuing their own, it's much easier.
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ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Hello everybody. A little late, but here nonetheless.
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I teach grade 4 in the Spanish bilingual program in Calgary, Alberta.
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Finding that our greatest challenge is accessing student voice+giving them a meaningful role in design w/out halting learning.
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In reply to @bkuhl2you, @vanderwalc, @Katiemc827
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Hi there, Elisa! Welcome!
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In reply to @ElisaW5
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:34 PM EDT
For those slipping in late....here are our previous Qs. Feel free to chime in w/your thoughts! Q6 on deck soon.
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vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A5 We need to make time to hear their voices, not rushed. Students have such brilliant ideas, but it is scary to let go
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:34 PM EDT
That's an interesting collision! What text were you discussing where this came up?
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In reply to @Englishgeek305, @vanderwalc, @Katiemc827, @AngelaStockman
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A1 She was a teacher who wrote and inspired others to write.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Jump in wherever you'd like. Would love to know your thoughts+experiences w/co-design!
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In reply to @ElisaW5
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
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one-point rubrics interest me too but I'm not there yet ... anyone tried this?
https://t.co/IIxH0A1UjJ
In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5: These methods make for a good start, in my experience. Others?
https://t.co/MTLQkRuKTU
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I love Jen's work. I worry about corrupting definition of rubric. A rubric provides a path. Levels matter, in my experience.
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In reply to @vicki_den
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A2 Space, choice and understanding their writing process. Also knowing that I know their past writing histories. Build trust.
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vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 Need to focus on depth rather than breadth
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Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Yes. Use 4 S blogs, writing pieces, & discussions. They become data points for Ss & guides for improvement.
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In reply to @vicki_den, @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
That's a beautiful point. All the more reason to encourage kids to document their learning. To share their history.
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In reply to @ElisaW5
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Co-design: we provide ss with the destination, but they choose how to get there ( with our help along the way) A5
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ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3 I keep my gaze steady on my students & what’s important. The minute I start to slip, I reign myself in, get back on track.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q6: What impedes co-designed curriculum?
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Yeah!
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In reply to @BenBo370
Katiemc827
Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Often see Ss want prompts and "right" ans. We need to bring joy/creativity back to writing. That's why I love
#MakeWriting
!
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In reply to @AngelaStockman, @bkuhl2you, @vanderwalc
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Always!
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vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 Need to focus on depth rather than breadth
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Realizing that unless I co-design w/Ss, I'm often assuming. It's been an eye opener for me.
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In reply to @BenBo370
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
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data points ... Yes! And then connect the dots.
In reply to @Ed_by_design, @AngelaStockman
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
fits w/
#inquiry
#PBL
authentic, meaningful instruction, Ss understand why they are learning and how they will apply
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arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Co-design: we provide ss with the destination, but they choose how to get there ( with our help along the way) A5
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ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5 Listen to students. They know what they need. Develop a conversation. Do a lot of observations.
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AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6: Often, the misperceptions that it's a free-for all or student-driven or that we must evade standards to do it.
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bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6 - Time concerns. Fear. Mistrust. The "I'll just do it for them to save time" mindset . . . not that I ever do that. . .
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
They want to get it right. They want to please us. They don't want to be judged. This is what I notice.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @Katiemc827, @bkuhl2you, @vanderwalc
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6 My own head space.
#teachwriting
KellyTumy
Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6: I think any curriculum that isn’t flexible fails to realize that we work with real life kiddos. You can’t script lessons.
#teachwriting
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes! I'm trying to learn about
#makewriting
, reading book now. Need to jump in!! Yes to joy of writing, always my goal
#teachwriting
Katiemc827
Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Often see Ss want prompts and "right" ans. We need to bring joy/creativity back to writing. That's why I love
#MakeWriting
!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @AngelaStockman, @bkuhl2you, @vanderwalc
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Exactly. What are OUR load bearing walls inside of curriculum frame? How might Ss rough it in? What do we control for? They?
#TeachWriting
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
fits w/
#inquiry
#PBL
authentic, meaningful instruction, Ss understand why they are learning and how they will apply
#teachwriting
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Co-design: we provide ss with the destination, but they choose how to get there ( with our help along the way) A5
#teachwriting
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A7 Great ? How do I stop taking myself seriously? Stop being the center of attention? Focus on Ss. Take a good look. Listen!
#teachwriting
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6 My own anxieties about not having enough "product" , losing confidence in what I'm doing
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6 - Oh, and control. We don't want to lose it. Feel like that's been said like 600 times already, but it's big.
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I do. Lol! That time thing is huge. My personal EQ: How might I help Ss impact curriculum w/out halting learning?
#TeachWriting
In reply to @bkuhl2you
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Yes, but how we grade the wrting process can either make it or break it. And often it is the latter
#TeachWriting
In reply to @Ed_by_design
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Don't we all! Haha!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @BenBo370
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
#teachwriting
A6 Time, pressure, fear, uncertainty, being stuck, unwillingness to try something new
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q6: What impedes co-designed curriculum?
#TeachWriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q7: How might we overcome the challenges preventing co-designed curriculum?
#TeachWriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Oh, yes. I'm right here with you.
#TeachWriting
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A7 Great ? How do I stop taking myself seriously? Stop being the center of attention? Focus on Ss. Take a good look. Listen!
#teachwriting
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Missed this post! Will definitely take a closer look. Like this after giving it a quick look.
#teachwriting
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
#teachwriting
one-point rubrics interest me too but I'm not there yet ... anyone tried this?
https://t.co/IIxH0A1UjJ
In reply to @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
This has been an issue in one of the schools I support. We're thinking deeper and wider about what constitutes "product." You?
#TeachWriting
In reply to @vanderwalc
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Mindset is the answer. Mainly, our mindset.
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6 - Time concerns. Fear. Mistrust. The "I'll just do it for them to save time" mindset . . . not that I ever do that. . .
#teachwriting
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Losing control is harder said than done. When it works it's beautiful, but hard when it doesn't,
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6 - Oh, and control. We don't want to lose it. Feel like that's been said like 600 times already, but it's big.
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I think we need to own it. We MUST control for certain things. Maybe define them, so we know where wiggle exists?
#TeachWriting
In reply to @bkuhl2you
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A7: I find it helpful to begin by getting clear about what teachers could and should control for. Then, Ss.
#TeachWriting
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6 Worry about fitting into the traditional framework that still exists beyond walls of the classroom
#TeachWriting
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#teachwriting
I feel that way too sometimes.
In reply to @vanderwalc
Englishgeek305
Oct 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: E-mail I received tonight solely focused on grade and not content or quality of work.😅
#teachwriting
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
But I think this is true only when they haven’t experienced anything else. Don’t you think?
#teachwriting
Katiemc827
Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Often see Ss want prompts and "right" ans. We need to bring joy/creativity back to writing. That's why I love
#MakeWriting
!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @AngelaStockman, @bkuhl2you, @vanderwalc
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I'm finding that it helps to define and own what Ts should control+what Ss can. Am I off?
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A7 - I think it helps, too, to recognize that one failed lesson doesn't wreck a whole year. Plan it, try it, adjust, try again
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Or when we don't provide enough time and explicit, diverse strategies for generating ideas?
#TeachWriting
@Katiemc827
In reply to @ElisaW5, @Katiemc827
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I’m in good company, then.
@AngelaStockman
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Oh, yes. I'm right here with you.
#TeachWriting
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A7 Great ? How do I stop taking myself seriously? Stop being the center of attention? Focus on Ss. Take a good look. Listen!
#teachwriting
Englishgeek305
Oct 17 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A6: E-mail I received tonight solely focused on grade and not content or quality of work.😅
#teachwriting
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:48 PM EDT
What impedes co-design is a lack of partnership and our inability to let go of how we want students to learn. A6
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Yeah, I struggle as a parent, too. Especially when GPA=big money. Grades need to be equitable, if we're using them. Hard.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @Englishgeek305
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:49 PM EDT
This is a generous share. Thanks!
#TeachWriting
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
And this is, too. I am the editor of
@KidsStandard
that publishes kids' work. Everyone welcome to submit! Free.
In reply to @Englishgeek305, @AngelaStockman, @KidsStandard
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q8: Share one idea, resource, or tool that might support curriculum co-design.
#TeachWriting
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Here's a look at 1-point feedback form for Blogs.
#TeachWriting
https://t.co/EAawOna41N
and a blog:
https://t.co/ixy2LYVfdC
In reply to @ElisaW5
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Me, too
@vanderwalc
Shouldn’t kids be producing reams of polished, perfect pieces? My blood pressure is rising as I write!
#teachwriting
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6 My own anxieties about not having enough "product" , losing confidence in what I'm doing
#TeachWriting
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:51 PM EDT
LOVE the idea of a framework being the load bearing walls!
#teachwriting
I've tinkered with ideas about code, construction & context.
In reply to @AngelaStockman
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A8 - Haven't figured it out yet, but my Ss love Kahoot - I'm looking for ways to widen its uses, i.e. student-designed quizzes
#teachwriting
EduGladiators
Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
✏️
#EduGladiators
October series Ss Engagement continues SATURDAY w/
@HeckAwesome
on
#sketchnote
#TeachWriting
#ECEChat
#worldgeochat
#xplap
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Nope. Nope, they shouldn't be. They could produce and revise bits that get better and better. Aligned to targets. IMO. :))
#TeachWriting
In reply to @ElisaW5, @vanderwalc
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Your blog!
#teachwriting
In reply to @AngelaStockman
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
We need to allow ourselves to learn with and from our students; to become co-learners in our discovery as a team A7
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A8: An idea: Affinity maps are helpful tools for co-design.
#TeachWriting
https://t.co/BX12VewW08
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:53 PM EDT
And Ts define the walls. They vary, from one to the next, often. Ts define walls. Kids rough in. Metaphor is working so far.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @vicki_den
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:53 PM EDT
YES!! Blog and
#HackWritingBook
#MakeWriting
#TeachWriting
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Your blog!
#teachwriting
In reply to @AngelaStockman
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Would love to hear initial thoughts on this...
@AngelaStockman
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
This has been an issue in one of the schools I support. We're thinking deeper and wider about what constitutes "product." You?
#TeachWriting
In reply to @vanderwalc
KellyTumy
Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A8: I think just putting student choice at the forefront w/ tenets from “The Book Whisperer” helps greatly!
@donalynbooks
#teachwriting
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
.
@pernilleripp
blog is amazing too, reading and writing.
#TeachWriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
You are kind. :)
#TeachWriting
In reply to @vicki_den
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
I use Knowledge Building Circles in my classroom.
#TeachWriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Aw, thanks :))
#TeachWriting
In reply to @vanderwalc
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Q9: What is one first step that you could take to begin co-designing curriculum with your students?
#TeachWriting
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Can you give an example of what you mean?
@AngelaStockman
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I'm finding that it helps to define and own what Ts should control+what Ss can. Am I off?
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A8 - Tools like Google Classroom that let kids comment, or create their own classrooms (if admins allow it). . .
#teachwriting
KellyTumy
Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
And this
@AngelaStockman
as well!
#teachwriting
susierw
Oct 17 @ 1:45 PM EDT
So much THIS!
@drgravityg
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
#mindsetsandmoves
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Product can be a bit that is aligned to a learning target, not the whole. We can assess products daily this way.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @ElisaW5
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A8
#TeachWriting
20time projects (see
https://t.co/AZ4vYj6ldQ
@brookhouser
)
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Elisa, drop me an email. Happy to share some units+would love your feedback! stockmanangela@gmail.com :)
#TeachWriting
In reply to @ElisaW5
ElisaW5
Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
TY
@Ed_by_design
!
#teachwriting
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Here's a look at 1-point feedback form for Blogs.
#TeachWriting
https://t.co/EAawOna41N
and a blog:
https://t.co/ixy2LYVfdC
In reply to @ElisaW5
bkuhl2you
Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A9 - I'm going to cheat. This chat! What a great first step!
#teachwriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks so much for joining us tonight - we appreciate your time and your thoughts!
#TeachWriting
vicki_den
Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
#teachwriting
A9 Schedule in time to discuss with Sts, Google Forms, surveys, exit slips, interest inventories, Wonder Walls
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Q9: What is one first step that you could take to begin co-designing curriculum with your students?
#TeachWriting
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
#teachwriting
my kids are 10th graders--I loop with them 9-10. This is the author's second year blogging.
In reply to @ElisaW5
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Here,Ts ensure Ss master critical targets relevant to form, process, craft, stds. Kids can choose everything else.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @ElisaW5
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
I really like this way of thinking. Assessment is the most overwhelming part for me, this is fantastic advice, thinking shift!
#teachwriting
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Product can be a bit that is aligned to a learning target, not the whole. We can assess products daily this way.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @ElisaW5
arinabokas
Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Not about co-designing specifically, but helps with the process and grading.
https://t.co/S9GHMMDgGD
A8
#teachwriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Oct 17 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks so much to our guest moderator,
@AngelaStockman
, and make sure you check out her book - MAKE WRITING.
#TeachWriting
Ed_by_design
Oct 17 @ 9:59 PM EDT
#TeachWriting
thnx
@AngelaStockman
for a great chat. I'm'a hav'ta read more on co-design. I get it, but need depth.
vanderwalc
Oct 17 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks so much, great learning tonight, honestly most impactful slow chat I've been in!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @TeachWriting2, @AngelaStockman
AngelaStockman
Oct 17 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks
@bkuhl2you
! Appreciated!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @TeachWriting2, @bkuhl2you