#swarmfbchat Archive
The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.
Tuesday March 28, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
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Mar 28 @ 9:00 PM EDT
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome coaches to the Tuesday night
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Make sure you follow each other and like/retweet as much as possible for max exposure.
rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:01 PM EDT
We will talk about box play vs the run; see what guys like to run vs diff formations/plays. Go ahead and take a sec to say HI
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Ryan McCartney DC Seymour HS, Indiana Starting year 21... Host of
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ThompsonDub
Mar 28 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Will Thompson DC/Safties coach John Handley hs Winchester va
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NickyT4098
Mar 28 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Nick Truesdale Wapakoneta High School Ohio
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Coach_ZC
Mar 28 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Zach Carlton - DC/DBs - Palmer Ridge HS, CO
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Tough to pick a topic - seems like we've covered a lot since December. Hope we can get some good ideas flowing!
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CoachCurran42
Mar 28 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Bobby Curran Special Teams Coordinator Linebackers Coach Gilman School Baltimore, MD
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CoachTWill22
Mar 28 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Trevor Williams, DC/Safeties, South Forsyth HS. Ga.
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Vin DiGaetano Def Assistant Wagner College
@Wagner_Football
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Miles Hochard. Now swarming from Liberty North in KCMO.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome coaches to the Tuesday night
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Make sure you follow each other and like/retweet as much as possible for max exposure.
PigSkinCoach
Mar 28 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Greg Wallis Tuttle, okla
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CoachByrd_
Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Jamelle Byrd DC/LB Coach Charlotte NC
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godalwayzfam1st
Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM EDT
What's up Coaches. Kuykendall Suttles DC Northwest HS GI, NE! Excited to soak it all in
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Skillutt28
Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Jeff Lutt DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend HS, KS
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Andy Swedenhjelm DC/LBs Newton High School, Newton IA
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 28 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Ryan McDonald OL Mooresville IN
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:06 PM EDT
John Grayson Linebackers coach - Glenbard South HS. Glen Ellyn, IL
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Z_QUEZ
Mar 28 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Zane Quesenberry - DC/DBs - Auburn HS - Riner, VA
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Allen Terrell - Blue Valley High School, Stilwell, KS
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1: In general, what do you allow your ILBers to do vs the run when not blitzing? Let 'em move free, sit in gap, read OL/RB?
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thejwfoster3
Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM EDT
John Foster OC Smith Co High Carthage TN
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CoachCurran42
Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Depends on the player. Most, read flow and go when you know!
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 gap sound, flow to ball. Read guard to backfield and flow.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1: In general, what do you allow your ILBers to do vs the run when not blitzing? Let 'em move free, sit in gap, read OL/RB?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: To me, I'd love to have them move freely and key OL; gaps will move; more mature guys do it best
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CoachJoshHadden
Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Josh Hadden. RB Coach @ Silver Bluff High School in Aiken County, SC.
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 have gap responsiblity have to stay gap sound but also be able to run and make plays
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CoachTWill22
Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Eye discipline is key. They have an alignment, assignment, and key. But so much is instinct after the read.
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: ILB's read guards. Short answer lol
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1: In general, what do you allow your ILBers to do vs the run when not blitzing? Let 'em move free, sit in gap, read OL/RB?
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CarsonRileyDad
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1) align on outside half of their gap, read their keys (usually Gs), LBs should move on a "string" towards play
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brgredd
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 read the triangle of the guards and RB. Set rules allow ILB to flow where they need to be guard blocks down come up etc...
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Coach_ZC
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: In base we will have them see the 2 OL in their gap & back flow. React on what you see.
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Skillutt28
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1. Read their key, and fit the open grass to make play. Stay aggressive.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I mean - I don't like my ILBers to be statues and just sit in front of the same OL each snap (or same gaps)
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rebel4461
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
We read and shuffle fit the gap once rb commits
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PigSkinCoach
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 heels at 5, eyes thru guard, 3 flows (vertical, angle, fast)
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NickyT4098
Mar 28 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: LBs must key step, read their key and flow downhill hard. Must have an inside out pursuit angle. See ball = get ball!
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: read RBs and react
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 - agree w/ eye discipline. Read through the triangle.
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1) We talk about reading the guard to near back triangle and filling windows. Closed window scrape, open window fill
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Nate Tanner HC at Summers Co HS (Hinton,WV).. late to the show tonight
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Align and read key guard to near back. Try to play as fast a possible control c to c
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1: In general, what do you allow your ILBers to do vs the run when not blitzing? Let 'em move free, sit in gap, read OL/RB?
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1- also, fill an open window to their gap/flow side.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Yes - must have that great instinct with super vision; those EDDs of reading OL make you that much quicker to ball
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rebel4461
Mar 28 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Backside slow read to take away cutback
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Cody Gardner Park City, UT
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zachdavis24
Mar 28 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1) Triangle Read.. and we teach open / closed door
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PigSkinCoach
Mar 28 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 cont as far as pre snap know gap resp, older more exp guys bluff pre snap
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1) Read, 1000mph right or wrong play what you see!!!!
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Z_QUEZ
Mar 28 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: ILB read G to RB, fill gap window, if closed scrap to flow. Must be aggressive downhill players!
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 28 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Jake Timmerman OL coach @ Northside in GA. Just an offensive guy trying to learn more about the dark side!
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freezysmalls
Mar 28 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Freezy Smalls II, Jack Britt HS, NC special teams co. And newly appointed LB coach
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1 Cont: I've always taught read the guards but used the old adage "run to daylight", if you see it, attack it
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1: In general, what do you allow your ILBers to do vs the run when not blitzing? Let 'em move free, sit in gap, read OL/RB?
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kevinsteinfb
Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: We are really changing up what we do defensively but Invision letting ILB's have lateral alignment freedom, then read G's.
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_coachgibbslv
Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@rmacblue
how concerned are you with your DT redirecting OG on inside release? Or should your ILB be athletic enough to avoid?
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In reply to @rmacblue
rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2: From a fellow coach: In a 3-4, would you allow your 6-tech/OLB to cross the face of a TE vs 21 personnel vs run?
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freezysmalls
Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 read the triangle and flow!!!
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1:cont. playside ISB is taught to attack the outside shoulder of lead blocker (iso/wrap) backside "vices"
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: that depends on what next down lineman is doing and are they designated rusher
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2: From a fellow coach: In a 3-4, would you allow your 6-tech/OLB to cross the face of a TE vs 21 personnel vs run?
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 to trade hats if ball crosses the zero barrier, yes. Otherwise no. Squeeze TE to close gap. Make the play bounce somewhere.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2: From a fellow coach: In a 3-4, would you allow your 6-tech/OLB to cross the face of a TE vs 21 personnel vs run?
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 28 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 only if i was running a stunt and had an outside or force defender
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2) We would not have our OLB cross the face. Our OLB is usually a spill player so getting washed down inside would burn us
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2) When I coached in a 3-4, the safeties made the OLBs right. If the OLB is on the line, S should be alerted to being force
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q2 - sure, as long as we are gap sound, especially outside in D gap. Would only have a 6 if DE had reduced tho. Can be done.
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zachdavis24
Mar 28 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2) we have used a "break" technique: if you get face, cross his face,if you get butt, look to spill / tackle dive,pass = COP
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: depends if he is a contain player or a spiller.. contain- NO; spiller- attack
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_coachgibbslv
Mar 28 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2:If he's shown to be instinctive, give him a two-way go. He can always fall back inside and maintain C-gap integrity.
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PigSkinCoach
Mar 28 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 safeties are the plus one to make the dl correct
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coachstone605
Mar 28 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Ryan Stone, Jack Britt HS NC. D Line coach
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:20 PM EDT
stay as rule based as possible (especially guys closest to the 🏈🏈)
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 28 @ 9:21 PM EDT
most odd front guys are you a base cov 4?
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rebel4461
Mar 28 @ 9:21 PM EDT
We also put it on the safety to make the olb right
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CoachSimard
Mar 28 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Bob Simard O Line and Tech Integration, Sutter HS, CA
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: I read along and thought about it...and decided on no. this was a 300 level question, I had to read, think, and repeat
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2: From a fellow coach: In a 3-4, would you allow your 6-tech/OLB to cross the face of a TE vs 21 personnel vs run?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Esp in 4-2-5, got to count on those OLBer-type guys to make plays right in run game - they are your +1 so many times.
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:22 PM EDT
if zone, yes. Try to stay split safety look regardless. Roll or creep late.
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@rmacblue
we are a base cover 3. Start in a 2 high shell and rotate to fill for rushers. We do run some cox 4
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@rmacblue
usually give something to get something. Have ability to mix supports by having overhang to each side
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CoachSimard
Mar 28 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A1: I'd prefer they std still so my dudes can block them - BUT Strg rd step & particularly hard scrapers keep me up Thur nights
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rebel4461
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Just thought I'd ad nothing better than talking football with coaches from all over I love this Sh**
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:28 PM EDT
The point where the RB is committed going through a gap - no cutback possible.
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freezysmalls
Mar 28 @ 9:23 PM EDT
zero barrier?
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:28 PM EDT
yes we rush at least 4 every play. We would rather be the attacker vs the attacked
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3) 3-4 OLB & S can switch. 4-2 same unless WS is playing center seam or deep of 3. Willy will become force.
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rebel4461
Mar 28 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Spill to the force player set a hard edge and run like hell to the ball
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: We will spill all plays - typically with our 5-techs; I think squeezing keeps your feet still at ILBer.
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zachdavis24
Mar 28 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3) have done both.Depends on the structure of your defense and your personnel. I have a bunch of cutups of us doing both.
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CoachCurran42
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: always been a box guy until this past season. Love spilling and will never go back. Make them go east/west
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NickyT4098
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: We have our DEs spill.Our defense is predicated on making the ball bounce. Want to see it going east/west than north/south
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Coach__French
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: you can cross face if you are gap-sound. Don't cross face unless someone is overtaking that leverage responsibility.
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: DE's spill and OLB's squeeze.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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Coach_ZC
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: Try to have dudes do the same thing so it takes the thinking out. Do have situations where their responsibility does change
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3-1 rule,be the hammer,not the nail.Don't get kicked out,but don't get quick logged either.Cause early RB reaction for pursuit.
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 kids need to know both. There are places for both. NFL coach told me if you can hit a guy in the backfield it doesn't matter
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
We squeeze A-gap traps; spill anything wider; I think you can still get blocked easier if you squeeze long traps.
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3) We spill all plays. Would rather make them run east/west instead of north/south
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freezysmalls
Mar 28 @ 9:30 PM EDT
For Q2what do you guys think?
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: off tackle plays 4 man front spill. Immediate to backer/safety. Have to account for offset leverage
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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CarsonRileyDad
Mar 28 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Always want to spill to force this lets ILBs and Safeties run free
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 28 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Spill use Sideline as your friend
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Coach__French
Mar 28 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: spill spill spill spill spill spill spill box (just kidding) spill
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3: off tackle plays 3 man front - designated rusher spill/dropper box. Tie it into perimeter support.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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PigSkinCoach
Mar 28 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 spill and kill, any1 off the edge is the spike
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Coach__French
Mar 28 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3: box anything in the Agap obviously
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Coach_JRogers
Mar 28 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3) Depends on what we are doing if spill and box.
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_coachgibbslv
Mar 28 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3:7 & 5 r gonna squeeze if they get ⬇ block, 👀 inside looking for nxt threat OG/FB and get ready to wrong shoulder that thang!
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Coach_JRogers
Mar 28 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Jeff Rogers Late to the party. Spring Break
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 Cont: and at the end of the day, your DE's just have to be bad dudes and make great contact. "spill" is a perf world.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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kevinsteinfb
Mar 28 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: Spill everything in the box. Nothing worse than a team running it down your throat. W/S Safety must squeeze the alley.
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Any body use the "umbrella" for Force/Spill explanation ???
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CoachCurran42
Mar 28 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A2: Only if I were running Corner force and having safety roll...
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Skillutt28
Mar 28 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3. DE spills vs pullers. OLBs set the edge. ILBs run to the ball. Get the ball carrier going sideways to the sideline.
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q3: Spill with a purpose!
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TackleToday
Mar 28 @ 7:50 PM EDT
#MSU
spill blocks with a purpose!
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:36 PM EDT
All of a sudden, I'm struggling to keep up - you coaches are making me work tonight!
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coach_hughes91
Mar 28 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3) I prefer to spill. If pursued correctly the back can't turn up and the cutback is eliminated. Let the sideline tackle him.
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freezysmalls
Mar 28 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3 not to sure yet.... gonna be the first year to experience a preference for me
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q4:Run Stunts - YES or NO? Like to run DL stunts vs the run? Any issues with gap integrity?
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 yes. Yes. Yes. LBs must understand run fits with stunts.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q4:Run Stunts - YES or NO? Like to run DL stunts vs the run? Any issues with gap integrity?
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zachdavis24
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4) we are undersized, so we are at our best when we are moving. High risk, high reward
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 have to move and stunt to keep Offenses guessing i think you have to drill drill the movement to help keep gap integrity
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4) We do a lot of gap exchanges with our OLBs and DEs, especially on backside. Wrecks the backside of zone.
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Coach__French
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: love run stunts They have a time and a place. If you are controlling the LOS there isn't really a need... kids LOVE THEM.
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CoachCurran42
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: YES!! But have to be careful & use based on gameplan. A strong stunt to a power run will put your DT in the hole b4 the RB!
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: I think they have their place but in an obvious run down, Id rather play it straight up. MAYBE a slant or a pinch?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q4:Run Stunts - YES or NO? Like to run DL stunts vs the run? Any issues with gap integrity?
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Umbrella
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NickyT4098
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: Depends on run scheme we're seeing. Wing T it's not a bad idea because they hate penetration. Must stunt with a purpose
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: Personally, I enjoy stunts vs run; we've been successful with them. ILBers need to keep vision keys/reads true.
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PigSkinCoach
Mar 28 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4 our lb rules if stressed acct for 90% of our run stunts
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Coach_ZC
Mar 28 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Yes, just have to make sure LB understands what's going on in front of him.
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:41 PM EDT
4-3
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CoachCurran42
Mar 28 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4 cont: LB's need to make DL right!! If they do that, you won't be wrong.
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Skillutt28
Mar 28 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4. Most def YES!! DL hits their gap. LBs fit opposite of the guy in front of them. Keep my DL moving to keep OL wondering.
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: Absolutely make them account and protect. No 2 gap movements must train DL to convert and not be off. Backers make right
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q4:Run Stunts - YES or NO? Like to run DL stunts vs the run? Any issues with gap integrity?
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4) TGOG, 2 gap Open Gap. no real need, our rules create movement.
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4- heck yes, gap exchange vs any qb read helps slow them down. Also allows us to utilize quickness advantage over OL.
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4) Did a write up about this for xandolabs
https://t.co/nj4q9eYEM3
Had good success twisting backside of runs.
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_coachgibbslv
Mar 28 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4:YES. May not be able to get same mvmnt w/ 2s, so stunts are a go. Also may want to put pressure on the midline for example.
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rebel4461
Mar 28 @ 9:43 PM EDT
All stunts for us are run stunts pass rush once you know lbs shuffle and fit so they can adjust their gap responsibilities
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coachharang74
Mar 28 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Box vs spread and spill vs wing-t/I form
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rmacblue
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Mar 28 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q3: Vs the Run - Spill or Squeeze and WHY? Same dudes each time or can mult players spill/squeeze?
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4: in the minority here. I just like playing free on run dns. Especially ILB's. Just play it straight and let those dudes run!
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q4:Run Stunts - YES or NO? Like to run DL stunts vs the run? Any issues with gap integrity?
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Coach_JRogers
Mar 28 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4) I'd rather get movement with blitzing and bringing the chaos.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q5: How about ILB run blitzing...use it? Like it? Is this tendency driven?
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 tendency driven. We used it to create a lot of negative plays. Tendency based. used to change momentum. Sent our best player
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q5: How about ILB run blitzing...use it? Like it? Is this tendency driven?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: Honestly, we have not been very good at blitzing our ILBers between the tackles; so...like the idea, didn't have the kids
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CoachSimard
Mar 28 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4 Middle stunts not as much a bother to me as twists, bring OLB inside w/a good edge DE outside. Can be very effective
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 28 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 i think it is 2 fold tendency driven and if you are getting gashed up front gets a hard run fill
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5-tendencied. Especially vs flexbone(cheating) which we see a couple of times per year.have to gamble wisely though.
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: THIS I like so much more than stunts. Like on 4th and 1, get those dudes downhill NOW. More caps, so i clearly like it.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q5: How about ILB run blitzing...use it? Like it? Is this tendency driven?
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NickyT4098
Mar 28 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: We have one MLB stunt that I'm a big fan of vs the run. Can't make a living on it though.Have to call it at the right time
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5) Yes, we had a big physical tackler who had bad 👀 so we sent him a lot according to tendencies.
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CODY_GARDNER
Mar 28 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5) Love to, but never had a kid who cashes it in at a high enough rate. A lot of good calls get spoiled, so I'd love to but...
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q5: Use it and like it. Mostly vs spread with dual threats. Determine who you want to have the ball
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q5: How about ILB run blitzing...use it? Like it? Is this tendency driven?
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Coach_JRogers
Mar 28 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5) Like it lot can mess with zone blocking plus can get some nice run throughs.
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A3: we run the 46 bear, we squeeze everything back to the middle... ilbs and interior d line blow it up
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PigSkinCoach
Mar 28 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5 we call them forced run fits, have to stay gap sound and work as part of edd
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Skillutt28
Mar 28 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5. Blitz 1-2 of our Stack LBs every down, most times. But it is tendency driven & with a purpose. Kids love it & play faster.
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Z_QUEZ
Mar 28 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4:if our base is getting torched we must be able to use stunts. LBs must keep gap integrity & not run themselves out of play.
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coach_hughes91
Mar 28 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5)I like to blitz B gap if we think the guard is pulling. We expect our LB to be too fast through the gap for center to block
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CarsonRileyDad
Mar 28 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5) high risk high reward. Prefer to do on a first down situation to put offense into long yardage downs.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q6: Quick Bonus Q... Stemming vs Run teams...Yes or No? Snap count flexibility an issue?
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4: yes, but must rep lb fits on run stunts... like to tailor stunts towards tendencies (formation, down/distance)
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_coachgibbslv
Mar 28 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5:yes, tendency driven.
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CoachMHochard
Mar 28 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6 never done it. I've seen it@userd effectively.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q6: Quick Bonus Q... Stemming vs Run teams...Yes or No? Snap count flexibility an issue?
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5 cont: I'm partial to these because I had a freak kid that could do it for two years. This is him as frosh vs NWMS last yr.
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coach_hensley
Mar 28 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@CODY_GARDNER
makes explaining spill/force 10x easier.
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Coach_ZC
Mar 28 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5: Think you have to have it, got to be creative to get O to 3rd & L.
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5 Cont: I also know he reads along so I'm giving him a little pat on the back for creeping on the
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q5: How about ILB run blitzing...use it? Like it? Is this tendency driven?
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CoachATerrell
Mar 28 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6-totally depends on cadence tendency but prefer not to stem. Slant to mess w/ OL assignments instead.
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CoachDiG
Mar 28 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Agree but carefully. Don't want to get out leveraged so the
@CoachOsovet
RPO guys start trying to outleverage you.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q6: Quick Bonus Q... Stemming vs Run teams...Yes or No? Snap count flexibility an issue?
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kevinsteinfb
Mar 28 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Q6: Coming from an Offensive guy, small/short DL Stemming is tough on HS OL and gives DL the upper hand.
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5: we pair LB blitzes w our run stunts if we want more at the point of attack.. base a lot off tendencies
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JRGrayson
Mar 28 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: BETTER know that snap count, and BETTER not get caught. Love a little stem, but it should be practiced and done precisely
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q6: Quick Bonus Q... Stemming vs Run teams...Yes or No? Snap count flexibility an issue?
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tsbulldawgs64
Mar 28 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6) We stemmed to teams that hit LOS fast. Since we slant we can stem to our gap right before the snap so we don't get cut off
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Mr_Tanner23
Mar 28 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Q6: we stem often vs double wing/wing t teams that use a lot of motion
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rebel4461
Mar 28 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Like to seem vs veer midline teams but better know the cadence so as not to get caught
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Mar 28 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Coaches - really nice chat tonight - I was worried about the topic, but your tweets were darn good! Always a pleasure to host
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Skillutt28
Mar 28 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6. Haven't stemmed much in past. Will move LBs around to give "smoke & mirrors" appearance before snap.
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