#txhsfbchat Archive
A chat for high school football coaches. Topics discussed: coaching methods, program development, and impacting our athletes.
Wednesday March 8, 2017
9:00 PM EST
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Mar 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Mar 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
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Mar 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
My name is Chris Fisher, OL at Ridge Point HS in Mo City, TX...I am also the coordinator and founder of all
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Mar 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Carl White Carson Newman University Jefferson City, TN. Looking forward to tonight talking ball.
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Mar 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Phil vogt Palm Bay high FL
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Mar 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Chris Kizer. DC/DL. Arkadelphia, AR
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Mar 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
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Mar 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
Rules & Safety are important to the game. Love 'em or Leave 'em, we must learn to operate with them. Tonight, that is our focus
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
Andrew Atkins, Arlington HS, TN. Def coord.
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Mar 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
We will be using the Q1: A1: format for questions and responses. Let's get started!
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mk6_79
Mar 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
Michael Horton HC, Slater, MO
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Mar 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: How do rule changes impact the way football is played?
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CoachNickYork
Mar 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
Nick York, Celina, TX, Asst. OC, Passing Game Coordinator, Wide Receivers
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CoachAdams9
Mar 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
Tony Adams Portland Tennessee, olb/wr coach
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: offensive explosion of points! first the linemen rules, then the 5 yard rule etc aiding passing game, now limited tackling
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Mar 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: How do rule changes impact the way football is played?
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 definitley more of an offensive game these days
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CoachAdams9
Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1 the rule changes have forced us to coach differently making sure we don't teach something against the rules.
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1. To me, especially as a defensive coach, we have to instill some awareness in players. Have to take the time to develop.
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Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Rule changes can impact the way you teach a skill, or alter a scheme causing programs to adjust, and change the game
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Cont. less tackling or changes to tackling have weakened until coaching catches up with new rules IMHO
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CoachNickYork
Mar 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: aside from obvious answer of following rules, you can find a way to use any rule changes to an advantage if applicable
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Mar 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
are you coaching differently? or just coaching the skills in a different way?
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CoachKizer
Mar 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
Big time offensive explosion. Rules naturally protect them more. I think it makes special teams more of a factor than ever too
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Mar 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
What sort of awareness? and how do rules impact it?
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Mar 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
As the speed and force of the game increases rules have to evolve as well as does equipment. But does the later lend to former
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jrmyhanson
Mar 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
Late to the show…Jeremy Hanson HC/OC Blair-Taylor, WI
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mk6_79
Mar 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Takes what we love about football away but keeps the kids that we love more safe.
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jrmyhanson
Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
Rules changes in the game have made teaching tackling tougher. Don't want head hunter, but the target is getting smaller
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Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
Q2: What rule changes have resulted in major changes in the game?
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txhsfbchat
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Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
Tackling has definitely been impacted by rule changes and safety concerns
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CoachKizer
Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
I second this. Being defensive guy the explosion of shoulder leverage tackling is a key item here with skill taught
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
contact above shoulders, etc. We invested in tackle wheels. I think that has helped us a good bit.
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
the new rules may bring tackling and technique back into the game
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CoachSelfridge
Mar 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2 - the two rules I am interested in seeing how they are officiated are the blindside block and onside kick rule
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CoachKizer
Mar 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: With it just being changed, I'm interested to see new kickoff rules/onside kick rules and how that is dictated
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jrmyhanson
Mar 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2) targeting rules and practice contact limits have completely changed the game.
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jrmyhanson
Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2) continued I don't tackle a lot, but less tacking has made it hard to prep kids for game contact
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
Tackling and the blocking away from the play or unnecessary block rule.
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CoachSelfridge
Mar 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
Casey Selfridge - head coach Lakeside school , Seattle, WA.
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2) Rules protecting the QB has given way to faster game and once was in passing
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Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
Q2: What rule changes have resulted in major changes in the game?
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coachfisher_rp
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Mar 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Tackling has been an obvious change. Just defensive contact rules in general have changed the game the most, IMO
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tbanks1906
Mar 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: In GA we are NFHS and we are testing out face guarding. I think so far so good helping out defense.
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Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
Q2: What rule changes have resulted in major changes in the game?
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coachfisher_rp
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Mar 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 cont: WRs have an easier release, QBs have greater protection, all of this opens up the game to a faster, big play game
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coachmitchell17
Mar 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
John Mitchell DBs Midwest City HS Midwest City OK. "Back in stride again!!!" What's good fellas?!?!?!
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CoachDingus
Mar 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Tackling. Teams are really going toward Rugby style tackling.
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Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q3: With player safety being a hot button issue, are rules changes necesary or an overreaction?
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: Biggest change TACKLING safety is a HUGE concern & new methods R GREAT for safety but skill level & coaching has to catch up
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Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
Q2: What rule changes have resulted in major changes in the game?
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jrmyhanson
Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3) Both. Being safer is always good, but some rules changes make no sense in my opinion.
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CoachNickYork
Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: might not have been the biggest change, but the 40 second clock had an impact on tempos and end of game situations.
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Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3) Necessity. I think the new rules are trying to force coaches back to proper technique.
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Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q3: With player safety being a hot button issue, are rules changes necesary or an overreaction?
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coachfisher_rp
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Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Necessary because the more we know about long term impacts of injury, the more we need to protect the players
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mk6_79
Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Both! I know we gave two kids concussions with crack blocks this year but it's a tough game for tough people.
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tbanks1906
Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Both.. Needed but football on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights are physical. But longivety is important
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txhsfbchat
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Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q3: With player safety being a hot button issue, are rules changes necesary or an overreaction?
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CoachKizer
Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Some changes I understand and get. Others it just leaves me scratching my head figuring out why we need that certain rule
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Coach_Sneed_EM
Mar 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 Some rule changes were necessary, but at some point they will make rules for the outward appearance of doing "something"
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coachmitchell17
Mar 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3: Player safety is always important, but it seems we have legislated "football" out of the game of football.
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CoachSelfridge
Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 - the onside kick rules seem to be a bit extreme.
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3. Necessity, as we develop and understand effects, we should adapt to keep players safe and healthy.
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Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
Q4: Which rules do you feel are more progressive, NFHS rules or NCAA rules?
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Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4: I enjoy the game play of the NCAA rules...I think they free up the players more than NFHS, what I've read at least
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4) NCAA. NFHS more reactionary to social media mom hype
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Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
Q4: Which rules do you feel are more progressive, NFHS rules or NCAA rules?
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CoachSelfridge
Mar 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
we squib and pop and onside because typically we are outmanned on Special teams units.
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: Little bit of both in my opinion. New tackling is great, but changes to JUDGEMENT CALLS on targeting & crack back Yikes
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Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q3: With player safety being a hot button issue, are rules changes necesary or an overreaction?
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coachmitchell17
Mar 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4: NCAA rules seem 2 B more current while the NFHS is archaic in my honest opinion.
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4. NCAA rules are better, NFHS rules are too ticky tacky.
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: Contact limitations and emphasis on new tackling techniques by far most progressive.
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Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
Q4: Which rules do you feel are more progressive, NFHS rules or NCAA rules?
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CoachKizer
Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: I prefer NCAA over NFHS. More free flowing game
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
Also, forgot about the new kickoff rules for NFHS... those are definitely on the extreme side..
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chrisvIQtory
Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
Late check in from MA. Hoping the NCAA can progress with the technology (sideline mainly) this year
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tbanks1906
Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: NCAA
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Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
Q4: Which rules do you feel are more progressive, NFHS rules or NCAA rules?
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Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q5: Do safety rules regarding concussion protocol do enough to protect our players?
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
A2 defenseless player has changed it the most in my opinion
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
totally agree I truly wish my state would go NCAA
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txhsfbchat
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Mar 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
We use the same kickoff rules in Texas...we just perform the traditional onside, or quick attack
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
A5) Rules are enough. Coaches abiding not so much.
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jrmyhanson
Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
A5) they do too much, I've got kids who's parents refuse to let them see a trainer because everything is now a concussion
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Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
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Q5: Do safety rules regarding concussion protocol do enough to protect our players?
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
A5: absolutely help a great deal but must be matched great S/C & Nutrition to build a better athlete skill wise & safety wise
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Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q5: Do safety rules regarding concussion protocol do enough to protect our players?
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CoachKizer
Mar 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
A5: I believe they do. Have to be symptom free for a week and trainers/doctors have to clear have been big in that improvement
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Mar 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
This is key. The rules and procedures are in place for a reason.
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
A5) Rules are enough. Coaches abiding not so much.
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
defenseless? Like this
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Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
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Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
Agreed. Many headaches are caused by dehydration.
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
and they have to drink water all week it does not work just 24 or 48 hours before it has to be daily hydration
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
A3 I'm with my friend
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if U want safety, mandate weights don't change the rules !
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Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
Q6: What is your definition of a "defenseless player"?
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Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
exactly...proper hydration and nutrition do amazing things for the long term health of an athlete
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brgredd
Mar 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
A6 a WR who has to extend his arms high above his head over the middle
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jrmyhanson
Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
A6) never met 2 people that have the same definition. Love the concept of the rule, too vague in application though
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Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
as in weight classes of players?
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
A6) THE BOX HAS BEEN OPENED!!!
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Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
Q6: What is your definition of a "defenseless player"?
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
A 5. I think the protocol is sufficient. As soon as we here "head" they are in the trainers hands.
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
A6: player is in a body position that cannot protect himself or avoid contact & def. player intentionally lowers head to
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Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
Q6: What is your definition of a "defenseless player"?
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thecoachvogt
Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
A6 either in the air, or on the sideline
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
After talking with a top NV ref proper tackling can eliminate the "defenseless" label
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Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
Q6: What is your definition of a "defenseless player"?
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coachmitchell17
Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5: I think the rules in regards to concussion protocol have been a tremendous help & it has changed coaching fundamentals.
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CoachEmanOC
Mar 8 @ 9:49 PM EST
In all the talk, have to remember were battling moms and fear. Being proactive is our best way to keep the game alive!
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Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
Q7: What rule would you add or subtract to help improve the game?
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coachfisher_rp
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Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
A6: Any player that in the act of doing their job, cannot avoid contact, like a longsnapper snapping, kicker kicking
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Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
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CoachEmanOC
Mar 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
A2: The importance of not using the head as part of the tackle. Rugby style of often tougher but safer
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thecoachvogt
Mar 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
A7. Being in FL I'd have them adopt NCAA rules and hashes like good ole TX
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Mar 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
How do we reduce levels of fear? How do you inform the moms?
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kdawgswift
Mar 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
A7: WR crack having to lead with hands is going to get called for holding, let the offense block
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to Thighs legal
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Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
Q7: What rule would you add or subtract to help improve the game?
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
A7) leather helmets. Will lessen the number of concussions
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Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
Q7: What rule would you add or subtract to help improve the game?
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40stack4roll
Mar 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
I agree that education is the best route. Here are some risks, but here is how we reduce those
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Mar 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
I've heard people videoing every kid practicing proper tackling, inviting parents to practice witness contact level
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Mar 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
Great job tonight! Thank you for your participation!
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Mar 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
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Mar 8 @ 9:59 PM EST
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