#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.

Monday February 18, 2019
8:00 PM EST

  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to this week's #musedchat. Our topic: advocacy within your own program. Be sure to tag your tweets with #musedchat, and introduce yourself. #musiced In GIF form, how is everyone doing this week?
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hey Everyone! Kyle from Texas, #sp19edfb4338 #musedchat #YayBand
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:03 PM EST
    My Rectial bearing is in a little over two weeks. I actually feel prepared, but it’s kinda like packing for a trip, you always act like your going to forget something 😅😅 #MusEdChat #sp19edfb4338
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Andrea from Alberta, Canada. 6-12 band. #musedchat
  • TaylorTevebaugh Feb 18 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hello all. It's me again. Taylor Tevebaugh and I'm currently a music education major at UT Tyler #MusEdChat #Sp19edfb4338
  • SamuelFritz Feb 18 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Sam Fritz 6-8 Band Greenwood and I’m Super Duper! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Welcome to the chat, how are you tonight? #musedchat
    In reply to @KyleBen74413497
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Yeah, that's about right 😄 hope you've got a warm beverage #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:04 PM EST
    How are you this week Taylor? #musedchat
    In reply to @TaylorTevebaugh
  • kellyapetro Feb 18 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi Kelly from Rochester NY 4-6 Vocal General. I'm on February break so #musedchat
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 18 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Kelsey - K-5 from Wisconsin #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Good to see you as always, Sam #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:05 PM EST
    My recital Hearing is in a little over two weeks. I actually feel pretty prepared, but at the same time somewhat stressed, kind of like when your packing for a long trip and you think you’re always missing something! #MusEdChat #sp19edfb4338
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi Kelly! Any plans for break? #musedchat
    In reply to @kellyapetro
  • TaylorTevebaugh Feb 18 @ 8:06 PM EST
    I'm great. Thanks for asking. #MusEdchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Excellent gif. And welcome! #musedchat
    In reply to @SchmutzerMusic
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Good luck, hope that goes well #musedchat
    In reply to @KyleBen74413497
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Q1 coming shortly #musedchat
  • TDucassoux Feb 18 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Hi #musedchat! Sorry to be joining late. I'm Theresa, elementary band/orchestra teacher from Northern Virginia. I was off work today, which was great!
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:13 PM EST
    #musedchat
    • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:12 PM EST
      I really feel like this week is the calm before the storm. Like, really really. For us, at least. Pre-Festival tomorrow.
      In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Q1: what does parent outreach look like in your program? What about with families not yet a part of your program? #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Emily, 6-8 Band & Chorus, South Florida, and so far the week looks okay. Ask me again tomorrow night. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:16 PM EST
    You got this! #musedchat #slayallday
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach
  • TaylorTevebaugh Feb 18 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1: To me, I think that parent outreach will look like sending home welcome letters to the families with a section for them to add their contact information. Also, making phone calls to them to introduce yourself to the parents. #MusEdchat #Sp19edfb4338
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1: Parent outreach is difficult. I don’t speak Spanish or Creole, so I’m limited in what I can do. My school’s neighborhood is low on resources, so it’s tough. #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:13 PM EST
      Q1: what does parent outreach look like in your program? What about with families not yet a part of your program? #musedchat
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 18 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A1: My district has really pushed using ClassDojo for family communication. I post around once a week what we're doing or pictures of the kids. I've had a lot of positive feedback. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Does your building/district have any translators that can help out with that, or are you pretty much on your own? #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:18 PM EST
    I phone all of the beginner band students parents. Helps with communication, especially about instruments. #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:19 PM EST
    That being said, my concerts & the school’s dance performances are bursting at the seams. We get huge audiences & a lot of appreciation for performances. #musedchat
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 18 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A1: #musedchat This year, our district has implemented @Seesaw for Schools, and it has been fantastic for parent communication. The family members that have connected can see their child's work and I have sent messages (both privately and as class announcements) to them all.
    In reply to @jguarr, @Seesaw
  • kellyapetro Feb 18 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A1: I try and use a variety of ways to communicate with parents: email, paper, social media, school newsletter, @remind #musedchat
  • TDucassoux Feb 18 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A1: For me at the elementary level, parent outreach involves communicating via email and letters home in communication folders. I also share things through school Instagram and Twitter accounts, but that's more for day-to-day class happenings. #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Send email updates every so often. Not a lot though, because as a parent I find at times that you can be sent a lot from the school. #musedchat
  • FatesArrow Feb 18 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Hi #musedchat. I'm a K-5 general, vocal, and instrumental teacher from southwest PA! Better late than never!
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A1 Parent outreach really comes with the band parent association. The directors along with the BPA do a fantastic job of reaching out to parents who’s students are not yet in the high school band program #Sp19edfb4338 #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Do you find your parents tend to interact more with one method vs. another? #musedchat
    In reply to @kellyapetro, @remind
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM EST
    I also use Remind & send home lots of (translated) flyers. For our most recent Beginning Band Showcase, I made a Google Slides presentation & displayed it in English, Creole, and Spanish. #musedchat
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A1: #musedchat Not everyone is on seesaw, though, so we still have to make photocopies and phone calls, and catch parents at pick-up or drop-off...
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:23 PM EST
    For future students, I go to our 6th grade concerts, and try to follow up with an introductory letter home. #musedchat Also, older siblings are great at making those connections.
  • kellyapetro Feb 18 @ 8:24 PM EST
    #musedchat no, I've found that I need all of these to reach the maximum amount of parents. @RemindHQ wasn't used by anyone at my school until I came last year. I'm hoping that more parents will use it as I promote it.
    In reply to @jguarr, @remind, @RemindHQ
  • FatesArrow Feb 18 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A1: Parent outreach for me starts with our open house event in the early fall, and continues regularly throughout the year on bus/parking lot duty, emailing or calling home...whatever means I can to keep info about our program flowing. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Q2: How often do you talk about your program with your colleagues? In what context? #musedchat
  • kellyapetro Feb 18 @ 8:26 PM EST
    I feel like it does get easier as I get to know the families and they get to know me. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A2. I am horrible at this! I do not tell a lot of people (only close friends on staff) all that is being done in my program. #musedchat
  • kellyapetro Feb 18 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A2: I have amazing colleagues. We talk about our programs often and how we can support and help each other. #grateful #musedchat
  • TaylorTevebaugh Feb 18 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A2: I don't have a program yet, but I would like to think that we would talk about it everyday in our staff meeting to plan out the day's activities. #MusEdChat #Sp19edfb4338
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 18 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A2: I feel like I talk about what I'm teaching all the time! I want people to know that music is WAY more than just singing. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A2: I send out an open invitation at the beginning of the year for people to come visit my room at any time. Usually have only a couple of takers. #musedchat
  • TDucassoux Feb 18 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A2: I talk to my music colleagues frequently about ways we can support eachother in the music prograj. I try to also talk to non-music colleagues about the great things Ss are doing in music. #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:31 PM EST
    No one method of communication is going to get to everyone. It has to be varied. Often, you can’t lose with good old fashioned flyers (and those are the easiest to translate). #musedchat
    • DoReMiDivnick Feb 18 @ 8:22 PM EST
      A1: #musedchat Not everyone is on seesaw, though, so we still have to make photocopies and phone calls, and catch parents at pick-up or drop-off...
      In reply to @jguarr
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 18 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A2: #MusEdChat For my general music classes, I talk to the teachers on my team all the time - we see the same kids and deal with many of the same issues, so we are good sounding boards for each other. But for the after-school ensembles, I don't really share too often. Hmm...
    In reply to @jguarr
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:33 PM EST
    I don’t often talk enough. (I don’t get out of my room enough, I think.) But I do try to send schoolwide emails when we have events. #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I need to do this. #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:31 PM EST
      A2: I send out an open invitation at the beginning of the year for people to come visit my room at any time. Usually have only a couple of takers. #musedchat
  • FatesArrow Feb 18 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A2: There are only 3 music teachers in our district, so when there's a window to have a meeting and discuss our program's evolution, we take it. I try to catch up with our MHS band teacher weekly. We're always looking to move forward and improve. #musedchat
  • TDucassoux Feb 18 @ 8:35 PM EST
    That's a great idea! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • FatesArrow Feb 18 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A2: Part 2 - My non-music colleagues see and hear the happenings regularly and we often try to collaborate and support each other. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Q3: How often are you able to discuss your program with administrators? How do you convey the importance of #musiced in those discussions? #musedchat
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A2 : Almost every chance we get we discuss our program. Ways to improv what needs to stay constant and such #sp19edfb4338 #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A3. We have professional growth plan meetings with our principal twice a year. This is my opportunity to discuss my program and views on music education. #musedchat
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 18 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A3: I have always told my principals what is going on in my rooms. Explained projects, etc. I also invite them into the classroom for days when we perform our projects. I've also made sure to let them know that what I do ISN'T teach concerts! #musedchat
  • kellyapetro Feb 18 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A3: We have a new principal this year. He had meetings with all of us before school started. It was great to discuss my program with him. I also recently presented to our Board of Ed. #musedchat
  • TaylorTevebaugh Feb 18 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A3: If I were to try to convey the importance of Music Education to an Administrator I would point out the recent study posted all over Facebook about SAT test scores by TMEA. #MusEdChat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:40 PM EST
    There’s been a lot of discussion lately. It’s frustrating, because I adore my school, my admin, and most of all my kids, but our music program has not been set up effectively for 25+ years. #musedchat
  • FatesArrow Feb 18 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A3: My administrators are quite supportive of our music program's evolution. It's easy to have a conversation with any of them and for them to see that #mused is one of our district's sweet spots...that it keeps getting better! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Gotta be careful with that though. Correlation is not causation. #musedchat
    In reply to @TaylorTevebaugh
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3 - Whenever we do get that opportunity we share statistics of the most recent all state ensembles, such as average SAT score verses the national average. Super blessed that the admin is very supportive!! #Sp19edfb4338 #musedchat
  • TaylorTevebaugh Feb 18 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3 part 2: The results state that those who participated in a fine art scored higher on their SAT tests than those who didn't. #MusEdChat #Sp19edfb4338
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:43 PM EST
    It is also W-I-L-D to hear folks talk about “districts” because in Florida, every school district is set up by county. My county has absolutely incredible things going on, but it’s huge, and sometimes hard to replicate successes. #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I just had a Big Comment to someone about that elsewhere on social media. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @TaylorTevebaugh
  • skootergordon Feb 18 @ 8:44 PM EST
    #musedchat sorry I’m late to the party... A1: Mostly social media & emails thru Alma. At concerts I make it a point to mingle afterwards and say hi. Monthly booster meetings. I help w/ the elementary music programs so they can see my face before we pitch band.
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:45 PM EST
    We have districts here in MI, but also some resources exist at a county level. The exact type of county level resources varies depending on where you are #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 18 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A3: #MusEdChat We meet to discuss dates for performances / shows, but that's about all. The admin is pulled in so many directions that they don't make it to the music room for observations very often.
    In reply to @jguarr
  • skootergordon Feb 18 @ 8:46 PM EST
    #musedchat A2: I y’all a lot w/ the art teacher, helps she’s my mentor. Talk a lot with the elem music teacher as well to brainstorm ideas for growing our total music program, choir and band. Need to talk more to other teachers though.
    In reply to @jguarr
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 18 @ 8:46 PM EST
    That’s a great idea to be a fave in the crowd! #musedchat
    • skootergordon Feb 18 @ 8:44 PM EST
      #musedchat sorry I’m late to the party... A1: Mostly social media & emails thru Alma. At concerts I make it a point to mingle afterwards and say hi. Monthly booster meetings. I help w/ the elementary music programs so they can see my face before we pitch band.
      In reply to @jguarr
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Like, Miami-Dade County is the fourth largest school district in the country — behind NYC Public Schools, LA USD, and I think either Houston USD or Chicago USD. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:47 PM EST
    I get it. It looks awesome to say "music makes you smarter". But that data just as easily says "school music attracts the type of student that tends to enjoy academic success". #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach, @TaylorTevebaugh
  • skootergordon Feb 18 @ 8:48 PM EST
    #MusEdChat A3: luckily, my principal was in band at my school, even got the Band Directors Award! Her door is always open. My super played trombone in HS. He’s a lot busier, so sometimes it takes a while. Both are super supportive!
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AmyLynnRever Feb 18 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A1: (sorry I'm late, forgot it's Monday!) We start putting out info about our music programs w/ counselors on their very first visits to elem schools. Band website has FAQs about beginning band and we have active social media accounts. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Plus test scores will also show you that drama students tend to score even higher than band students on those tests. #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach, @TaylorTevebaugh
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:49 PM EST
    That's awesome! Our AP marched in college and in a small drum corps. #musedchat
    In reply to @skootergordon
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 18 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Ok I was late too, just didn’t broadcast. A1: We published at every level dates and events and shared composer video days - elem #MusEdchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:51 PM EST
    But then counties surrounded by much smaller cities — Broward (tiny Ft. Lauderdale), Hillsborough (Tampa), Orange (Orlando), Duval (Jacksonville), Palm Beach (dude West Palm Beach is eeeeetty bitty) — are almost as big as the urban behemoth school districts. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Feb 18 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A2: Often do a quick share out about events (both recent and upcoming) happening in band at out staff meetings. Also put things in the school newsletter. #musedchat
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A2 + : It’s super apparent teaching on a drum corps staff, we are consistently looking for ways to improve. We have our technique but we also always look for ways to continue to get better at what we do! #MusEdChat #sp19edfb4338
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Q4: How do you communicate about your program with the community at large? The school board? How much do your other stakeholders know about your program? #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:53 PM EST
    What I use that stuff for is to counteract bad information. Low SES families, newly upwardly mobile families, first generation & immigrant families have all been sold the perspective that ensemble music takes away from academic achievement. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @TaylorTevebaugh
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 18 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A3: Discused w admin all time. Even the PD to teach us how to make courses rigorous where the presenter declares our art and mus #MusEdchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:54 PM EST
    I saw a great quote from @berglinmusiced on FB tonight regarding that study. "parents, aren't these the type of kids you want YOUR kid hanging out with?" #musedchat
    In reply to @rebelmusicteach, @TaylorTevebaugh, @berglinmusiced
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A4. I contact our local newspaper about concerts, etc. And try to have things put in our school newsletter. #musedchat
  • kellyapetro Feb 18 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A4: Social media is key for us. Being able to share pictures and video makes a big impact. Our district recently hired a new communications director who is social media savvy and it has made a big difference. #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:55 PM EST
    If you’ve been in the US for less than your middle schooler’s lifespan (lots of my families), you’ve been pushed an NCLB-informed generation’s worth of test score importance. It’s seriously caused detriment to so many programs. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @TaylorTevebaugh
  • KyleBen74413497 Feb 18 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A4 :Honestly, because I’ve only ever been a “tech” for a high school marching band, because I haven’t graduated yet, I haven’t ever seen that side of what we do! I’m curious to see what other programs do in that aspect! #sp19edfb4338 #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:56 PM EST
    #MusEdChat find it hard to remember to get someone to take pictures for me at concerts.....because pictures speak a thousand words 😊
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 18 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A4: Local newspaper, cable channel and weekend bulletin. Now electronic sign has postings #MusEdchat
  • DoReMiDivnick Feb 18 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A4: #MusEdChat We post concert dates on social media, and sometimes send the kids home with 4-5 paper invitations to share. Each December, we tour through the city, including a stop at the district office. In the spring, we try to organize a "vertical alignment" concert, too.
    In reply to @jguarr
  • TDucassoux Feb 18 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A4: Social Media is the biggest form of communication for my elementary program. Twitter and Instagram. I would love suggestions on how to grow the (community) following for both of those though! #musedchat
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 18 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A4: My principal is great about contacting the newspaper on our behalf so we've had several articles, social media is huge with our district (we're encouraged to tweet and to send things in for the district facebook). #musedchat
  • SchmutzerMusic Feb 18 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A4.2 - I honestly don't know how to really communicate with the board. Do I just show up to a meeting? Request time? How does it work! #musedchat
  • rebelmusicteach Feb 18 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Jacob is a genius. Funny enough, a friend of mine was on the drumline in HS & says he does not want his (now 2 y-o) daughter in band under any circumstances. Oh, drumline. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @TaylorTevebaugh, @berglinmusiced
  • TaylorTevebaugh Feb 18 @ 8:58 PM EST
    I went to TJC for my Associates Degree. My old band director Jeremy Strickland used Social Media a lot to communicate in mass about the band. #MusEdChat #Sp19edfb4338
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 18 @ 8:58 PM EST
    #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • AndreaMakarchuk Feb 18 @ 8:58 PM EST
    You can send invitations to trustees, superintendents, etc to come to your concerts. #MusEdChat
    In reply to @SchmutzerMusic
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 18 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Some districts have buildings do presentations to the board, sometimes board members tour buildings during the day, you could invite them to a performance. #musedchat
    In reply to @SchmutzerMusic