#ankedchat Archive
Thursday December 8, 2016
9:00 PM EST
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to
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we are really glad you’re here, introduce yourself, your content area, & share with us your favorite holiday treat.
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
Great to have you Ashley.
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In reply to @carters_class
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:01 PM EST
Megan, co-mod of
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, Alg1/Geo & my fav are almond bark covered pretzels.
MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hi
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! Megan here to chat about implementing
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:01 PM EST
Dave - SS at Centennial HS in Ankeny and co-moderator of
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- I love those chocolate star cookies with Reese's PB cups instead.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
We use Q1/A1 format. There are 8 Qs as we get into the details of standards-referenced grading (SRG). Remember
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in your tweets.
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
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Nick Covington. HS social studies
@Ankeny_Hawks
. Gotta go with pumpkin bars on this one.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
Welcome Megan - thanks fro bringing your expertise to
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
Cov is in the house! Great to see you Nick.
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
If you often forget to include the # or are challenged to follow along, try this link to follow along:
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
If you often forget to include the # or are challenged to follow along, try this link to follow along:
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xakellis
Dec 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
Mike X,
@TeacherEase
founder here. Hope to learn something new.
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In reply to @TeacherEase
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
Special
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invite to our weekly lurkers to get involved tonight.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Please read this if you’ve have trouble seeing everyone’s tweets in the chat:
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Great to have you with us Mike!
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In reply to @xakellis
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Ken O’Coonor, former HS teacher joining
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from Toronto.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
great to have you tonight!
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In reply to @xakellis, @TeacherEase
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
We're honored to have you with us tonight Ken!
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In reply to @kenoc7
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
Actually O’Connor
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q1: What are some first steps needed to implement SRG in your classroom?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
We don't deduct points for misspellings.
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In reply to @kenoc7
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1: Communicate! Make sure students and parents know what to expect - give the why and begin to massage the culture
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1: Identifying standards/skills to be assessed - top priority.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
BTW - In Ankeny we use Standards Referenced Grading (SRG) because it more accurately describes our process.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1 Standards-based instruction & assessment and a standards-based mindset.
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In reply to @DRich0696
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: Separate behavior from academic grades
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1b: Determining how to assess those stds/skills.
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: First write the strds clearly. Then write summatives. Lastly, backfill w/ formative work to support the learning of the strds
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: Willingness and vulnerability to embrace a completely different view of planning for instruction and assessment.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q1: What are some first steps needed to implement SRG in your classroom?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
Do you find that mindset is tough to instill in "old dogs"?
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In reply to @kenoc7
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
What is the difference between standards-referenced and standards-based?
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In reply to @DRich0696
MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
Very important to recognize that planning will change day to day based on Ss grasp of standards.
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: Willingness and vulnerability to embrace a completely different view of planning for instruction and assessment.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
Our building motto this year is standards first.
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: First write the strds clearly. Then write summatives. Lastly, backfill w/ formative work to support the learning of the strds
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Changes for classroom - remove behavior from academic grade, allow redos after extra practice, TALK ABOUT LEARNING everyday.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
Are these first steps?
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
Greatest realization for me this year has been how many of my students actually DO get it and need to be challenged!
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
Q2: What are the hard lines(necessary practices) for implementing SRG in your class?
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
Wonderful eye- opening benefit to SRG.
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
I love how SRG personalizes a Ss learning.
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
Greatest realization for me this year has been how many of my students actually DO get it and need to be challenged!
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2: Communication with Ss - they should know the Stds and where they stand with their progress.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2: Multiple and varied assessments are a must
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
That reflects the need to utilize our Instructional Framework - Q4, right?
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS, @MeganCMoMo
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
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Defined proficiency, standard-aligned gradebook!
MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Must separate proficiency from behavior, must allow redos for full credit, must only use summatives to determine grade.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2b: Formative assessments for Ss to demonstrate their progress.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
@PeaceLoveMHeine
do you have the 140 character answer for this one?
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In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
What is the difference between standards-referenced and standards-based?
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In reply to @DRich0696
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2 Sep. achievement from behaviour, no scores for formative assessments, no zeros, no %, multiple opportunities.
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In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine
MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: All formative work is aligned to the standards for the course.
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
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A2: Defined proficiency, standard-aligned gradebook! Both provide clear path to success for students *edited from earlier*
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
Please read this if you’ve have trouble seeing everyone’s tweets in the chat:
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
Please read this if you’ve have trouble seeing everyone’s tweets in the chat:
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2: Feedback on assessments for continued learning. No Points, No Grade on anything formative!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
We're missing our
#innov8dmps
friends tonight
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
Our district policy still allows for 20% HW/practice...
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
GoldsmithCory
Dec 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
Iowa vs Iowa state. Might take a few people away.
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In reply to @DRich0696
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q3: How do you prepare formatives, summatives, and practice & in which order are they planned?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
@GoldsmithCory
I'm doing double duty - game is on the TV but it's playing 2nd fiddle.
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Great to have you along Cory.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
That isn’t it for me. Many schools/teachers do SBG and add a % grade at the end because of policy.
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In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine, @DRich0696
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3: Formatives - Practice - Summative...it may seem odd, but as long as the standards are the focus the order is less important.
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
That's a bummer. What if a grade was withheld until xx% of HW was complete, rather than include it in the grade?
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In reply to @DRich0696
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
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A3: Big shift in social studies unit planning, huge realization for me. Assessment not unit by unit, but ongoing. 1/2
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: If summatives are common they are probably first. If responding to formatives practice will be before AND after.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
I wish there was an emoji here for sad. Need admin/p’s to look at the research.
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In reply to @DRich0696, @MeganCMoMo
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
That would be better, but BOE took a compromise stand a couple years ago.
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
then I'm not sure.
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In reply to @kenoc7, @DRich0696
MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: I write standards, then summatives, then formative work. All formative prepares for summative, and all summative assess Strds
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xakellis
Dec 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
Could demonstrated mastery on a formative ever be used to *increase* an S's grade?
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Must separate proficiency from behavior, must allow redos for full credit, must only use summatives to determine grade.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3: Currently, summatives, formatives, practice in that order.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
Diagnostic then Summative then Formative.
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In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
But remember the fight we had here 3 years ago - we've come a long way. Not perfect, but better than traditional.
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In reply to @kenoc7
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
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A3: I start w/ defining proficiency, plan backwards to build content background, plug in skill practice, move toward assessment.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3: Very excited this year for Geo that all assessments are organized by standard.
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#smallsteps
MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
maybe used in place of the summative if it assesses the standard entirely, but that's not an increase in grade, is it?
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In reply to @xakellis
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
I like to say that everything is a formative until its a summative.
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In reply to @xakellis
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
Then you have had two years to educate, so time to revisit - ??
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In reply to @DRich0696, @MeganCMoMo
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
that is very big - not being unit-based is a big shift. Way to go!
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
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I have used formative scores to assign letter grades at grade report periods in lieu of summarize assessment... 1/2
In reply to @xakellis
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
Q4: How do you manage reteaching & retakes when Ss have not mastered a standard?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
Yes and no - no revisit on the HW policy.
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In reply to @kenoc7
MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
I recommend having the assessment of the standards in place before the skill practice is designed.
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A4: My absolute FAV right now is having multiple assessments for the same std. Retakes are built in.
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
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... Knowing that additional formative assessment and summarize would be required, but "grade" based on current data.
In reply to @xakellis
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
It can be part of a holistic look but not directly. I sink great putts on practice green but not on the course.
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In reply to @xakellis
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
I think you are probably a Lone Ranger like
@MeganCMoMo
is at her school.
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS, @MeganCMoMo
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
A5: the burden goes to the students (HS) - they plan relearning and meet with me if necessary outside of class.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
and with a kid in his class, I am very grateful!
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In reply to @DRich0696, @CovingtonAHS, @MeganCMoMo
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
A4: Reassessment is based on student readiness and schedule - usually individualized based on their learning gaps.
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carters_class
Dec 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3: formative before summative. Often I change the summative based off the formative.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
I know but hasn’t there been enough water under the bridge so it can be revisited now or is it still too raw?
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
A4: I use supportive resources like IXL for math practice, Kuta Software for additional worksheets, flipped lessons to review.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
A4: For Alg1 - I have a retake checklist - test corrections, practice of the skills, appointment with me to discuss.
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
A4: Ss must do more learning and must convince me they are prepared before retaking an assessment.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
Same! We assess our standard clusters with writing prompts multiple times.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A4: My absolute FAV right now is having multiple assessments for the same std. Retakes are built in.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
good to know since I missed conferences...
#badmom
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
You'll be thrilled to know that our Geo Plc had the varied assessment conversation today. I was very encouraged!
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In reply to @DRich0696
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
I think that is getting it backward.
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In reply to @carters_class
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
Struggle w/ this b/c variable in SS is content. Assessment can look different depending on content used, tough call!
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
have you used
https://t.co/DzNcSrShi6
- for Algebra it is the BOMB!
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo
ChrisDouglas515
Dec 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
I'm a nervous and angry Hawkeye right now,
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. 😐😔
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
I vary instruction even toward the same standard so might adjust assessment midstream.
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In reply to @kenoc7, @carters_class
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:30 PM EST
Q5: How do you use formative assessments to communicate with your Ss regarding their progress toward the standard?
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:30 PM EST
Hi! Sorry I'm late!
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:30 PM EST
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A4: Been easy this year: no "tests", just assessments. Want to do better? Revisit feedback and rubric, fix/resolve and resubmit!
xakellis
Dec 8 @ 9:30 PM EST
Evidence of mastery comes as a stream of data. Most formative and some "summative." Should you ignore formative for grade?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:30 PM EST
No problem - great to have you! Hope you're doing well!
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In reply to @GroveEnglish
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5: Formative assessments are the basis for student self-assessment.
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5: FA is to provide feedback to Ss. I write words on their papers, use code for common errors and have Ss reflect on progress
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
Just glad you made it!
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In reply to @GroveEnglish
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
Super pregnant, mentally exhausted, but LOVE this topic. It's changed my whole career!
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
SA not carved in stone but planning instruction & FA should be based on what students have to do at end.
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In reply to @DRich0696, @carters_class
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A5. Isn't everything formative, technically? It all gives us insight about where to go next. Literally everything Ss do is info.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
To me, everything is evidence - if I design it as a formative and S nails it then I have the info I need.
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In reply to @xakellis
CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
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A5: Feedback on formative work based on standard rubric. Quick to tell who gets it and who doesn't. Timeliness is another issue..
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A5: I love that assessments are assessments - Ss don't freak out on test days.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A% Descriptive actionable feedback.
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In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
A5. It's gotta be responded to quickly. On the spot, if possible, so Ss can learn & grow in the moment.
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xakellis
Dec 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
If you have 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2 as data, and only the last is "summative," I think the kid should be a 3, not a 2.
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
I've been told that not having quizzes count in the grade has reduced anxiety tremendously
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A5: I love that assessments are assessments - Ss don't freak out on test days.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
Agreed - still assessing content knowledge in US Hist even as stand-alone and not applied to standards.
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In reply to @kenoc7, @carters_class
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
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Yes! If Ts comm that EVERYTHING is info about their skills, those stressful one-time moments are gone.
In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
Determination should be based on the most consistent level with emphasis on the more recent summative assessments.
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In reply to @xakellis
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q6: How does independent practice play a role in an SRG classroom?
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
Very important to get them feedback ASAP! I strive for the next day. And we spend A LOT of time reflecting & planning next steps
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
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A5: Feedback on formative work based on standard rubric. Quick to tell who gets it and who doesn't. Timeliness is another issue..
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
A5. I've found that Ss greatly respect the T that reg makes decisions based on what kids do.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
A6: For me practice takes place IN the classroom. I can control what goes on inside my room. Everything is purposeful.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
A6: Individual and group practice is offered and expected, but not graded. Collected as evidence for work habits.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
I just went 2 minutes behind...
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
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A5: Sounds cliche, but students stopped asking "when's the test" and "is this graded" when they finally realized... 1/2
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
A5. I think this is a great place for Ss to self-assess too. Not just at end or on summative.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
Things don't always move a fast as we might want them to. Moving peers who are reluctant is a challenge.
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In reply to @kenoc7, @carters_class
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
When instruction and FA r good, students r relaxed & confident for SA’s - they know what they know.
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In reply to @GroveEnglish, @PeaceLoveMHeine
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
I had a class revolt on a formative - we need more practice they said - so that's what we did.
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
A5. I've found that Ss greatly respect the T that reg makes decisions based on what kids do.
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
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... That ALL of it is evidence, and it ALWAYS "counts". No anxiety over assessment, focused on process of showing learning. 2/2
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
I have been there most of the time!!!
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In reply to @DRich0696
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
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Why do so many Ts fear this vulnerability? Changing in the moment to what kids comm they need?
In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
Afraid of not being in control?
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In reply to @GroveEnglish
mafarrace
Dec 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
@PeaceLoveMHeine
Yes& also becomes part of learning process, especially if you are one of few Ts that uses For vs Sum
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @PeaceLoveMHeine
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
@PeaceLoveMHeine
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Let me back up. Why do so many Ts fear even asking Ss what they need/think about our instruction?
In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
Welcome to
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Missie!
In reply to @mafarrace
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
“Everything counts, some as practice and some as performance/evidence of ach't.
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q7: What does your gradebook look like with SRG?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
Ts get defensive of the way they taught it. "i taught it, so they should get it"
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In reply to @GroveEnglish
kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
I’m watching Raiders/Chiefs - game started 0-0, no points for practice!!
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In reply to @CovingtonAHS
DRich0696
- Moderator
Dec 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
A7: Non-"live" columns with multiple assessment scores and cumulative columns based on mode/most recent and prof. judgment.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
Much harder in math - but I've been able to give choices about what practice they have to complete.
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
A7. All "assignments" are removed. Notes are entered for each dem in skill category (we have 11 that contain all core stds).
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
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A7: Categories are standards (form and sum), assignments are tied to skills w/ in standards. Scored 4321 for most practice.
GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
A7. Notes have date, teacher observations of skills, student comments, is applicable, and score code for that moment in learning
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
A7 Standards the set, assessments the sub-set. Enter scores for standards, so most ass'ts have multiple scores.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
A7: FAs are 1, 2, 3. Summs scores are specific to the std. And the most recent score is used. Prev score is inactive.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
All scores entered as levels of proficiency, not points or %.
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
A7: A category for FA for communication on progress (but does not calculate) & category for Summatives- each a different standard
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mafarrace
Dec 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
TY! I'm in deep for 4+ now & still searching out others views & input!
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
A7. Ss can now articulate skills they are strong and weak in so they can focus their energy in goal areas. Never could w/ points.
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
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A7: Content stuff "scored" 2-1-0: got it, need to revisit, and didnt get it. Biggest struggle is SRG in InfiniteCampus! >=[
PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
did you have to get approval for rubric grading?
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DRich0696
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Dec 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
I'm convinced that I'll never "get there" - have to keep getting new ideas from practitioners.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
R U sure it can’t do more but is limited by what your IT people allow it to do?
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DRich0696
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Dec 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
Q8: What step can you take in the near future to make a move toward SRG or to continue with SRG in your class?
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
A7. Used to have FA and SA categories but realized that was just T lingo; Ss and parents didn't get it. Convos still not on prog
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
I use MP- Making Progress and NY - not yet in Infinite Campus. No Calculation since category is not active.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
Every communication with Ps includes a definition of what a formative/summative is.
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
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What if you didn't have to do that, though? Are there other ways to comm that?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
A8: I want to offer varied assessments and an exceeding Q on a summative.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
A8 Non illegitimi carborundum
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
Probably yes - I need to look at your tweet again...I hate it when we use T lingo with non-T's.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
Meaning what's above and beyond the std? What could a S do to demonstrate exceeding on a std.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
A8: I want to offer varied assessments and an exceeding Q on a summative.
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
S & P’s understand “Practice” and “Performance.”
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
Short answer, no b/c I don't use the 4 point in grade calc! *shrug*
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
I work with new-to-profession Ts now, so goals are to facilitate convos around what they're comm via feedback and assessments
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GroveEnglish
Dec 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
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Love these categories
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DRich0696
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Dec 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
The fear is that a 3 will calculate to 75% - that's legit.
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CovingtonAHS
Dec 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
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A8: Need more prof dev in student self-assessment and tracking tools.
PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
what do you mean legit? a legit fear? or a legit score?
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
But as Guskey points out brilliantly we should NEVER relate levels to %.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
we have no choice in the matter...
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DRich0696
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Dec 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
legit fear. My 3 = 90 and 2 = 75 (proficient and developing)
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MeganCMoMo
Dec 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
Can u determine a grade w/o % then attach a % at the end to appease the powers?
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DRich0696
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Dec 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
How does one report based on letter grades tied to % and not relate levels to %?
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
No choice at end but that should be only time we use % - and only because we have to.
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mafarrace
Dec 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
A7- I teach a language so I try for proficiency scores w/everything. I also track & enter items done in class w/no score
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
that's a legit question! :-)
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kenoc7
Dec 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
You determine subject grades from summary levels for standards using a logic rule that links to %.
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mafarrace
Dec 8 @ 9:59 PM EST
Don't most info sheets about grades contain statements that could disqualify the specific # given so à T could have final say?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
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Dec 8 @ 9:59 PM EST
@MeganCMoMo
this...
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DRich0696
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Dec 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
The fear is that a 3 will calculate to 75% - that's legit.
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