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historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:00 PM EST

Good evening #engsschat PLN! Please take a moment to introduce yourself and include where and what subject you teach. #engchat #sschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:00 PM EST

Thanks to @historytechie for hosting tonight's discussion "Civil Discussion to Promote Speaking & Thinking!" What a timely topic. #engsschat

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:00 PM EST

Welcome to tonight's #engsschat. Thanks for joining us! Please take a minute to introduce yourself, what you teach, etc. #engchat #sschat

participatechat Feb 27 @ 7:00 PM EST

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classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:00 PM EST

Hi #engsschat, this is Bill Chapman, a retired social studies teacher, checking in from Berkeley, CA

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Hello #engsschat Scott Petri, HS World History teacher checking in from La La Land. Mixing my fave pop culture refs.

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Bill, always great to chat with you! I hope you've had a great month. #engsschat

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jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Greetings from PA. 8th gr Civics/Holocaust Elective - happy to be hear to share and learn. #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Kristen. High School Latin -- not English or SS, but uses some of both subjects-- at an urban NJ charter. :) #engsschat

classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Thanks Steph, it has been fine. Hope yours has been as well. #engsschat

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Thanks for joining us tonight, Joe! Welcome to #engsschat.

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

I'm Steph. I teach HS English and Speech in the NW suburbs of Chicago. Thanks again for hosting tonight, @historytechie! #engsschat

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JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Hello my name is Jessie and I am a preservice History/Social Studies Secondary Ed. Major. #sschat #engchat #engsschat #gccedu

teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Hi #engsschat Sean Daly. HS World History teacher from the great San Gabriel Valley of California

philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Phil from Sarasota. Love the topic. Lurking tonight as dinner is around the corner. 6-8 AH #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Kristen, everyone is welcome! Thanks for joining #engsschat tonight.

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Welcome to tonigh's chat, Jessie! Thanks for joining us! #engsschat

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historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Thanks for joining Scott. Superbowl, 2016, and Oscars were definitely a topic of discussion with Ss today. #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Hello #engsschat Scott Petri, HS World History teacher checking in from La La Land. Mixing my fave pop culture refs.

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Welcome to tonight's chat, Sean! Thanks for joining in. #engsschat

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GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Joanne from Missouri. 7th grade world history and 11th grade modern global issues. #engsschat

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Chris from Bloomington, IN. Teach world history for a private online HS affiliated w/ Indiana University. Excited for this chat! #engsschat

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM EST

Hello! I'm Emily Lee, a student at the University of MO-Columbia studying secondary social studies education! #engsschat #ltc4541

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Q1: How do you use discussions in the classroom? #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Hi Phil! Thanks for joining us! #engsschat

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jcaseydesign Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Hi! Jennifer from FL. MS social studies and language arts. First time with this chat! #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Hello #engsschat Jackie from CT; former social studies, now library media

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Welcome back to #engsschat, Joanne! Always great to see familiar faces.

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Always great to chat with you on Mondays, Chris! #engsschat

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philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

Thanks Steph. glad to be here with dedicated colleagues #engsschat

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classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

A1 In my classes, they were pretty much the basis for much of the learning that went on. Small groups and whole class. #engsschat

historycomics Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

Hi - I teach high school social studies through comics to create engaged and analytical readers and writers #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

Welcome! We love having future teachers join us. #engsschat

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CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

A1) Have used one on one discussions (think pair share), small groups, large group, etc. to discuss diff issues. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

Welcome to all subjects. ALL of our classes need to engage Ss in duiscussion! #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:01 PM EST

Kristen. High School Latin -- not English or SS, but uses some of both subjects-- at an urban NJ charter. :) #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

Question 1 is already up! #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Q1: How do you use discussions in the classroom? #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:04 PM EST

Thanks for joining us tonight, Jennifer! We love having first time #engsschat people.

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travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

Hi. Travis Forney here. A social studies teacher who works in close conjunction with English teacher everyday. #engsschat #ED585q

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

Welcome, Jackie! Thanks for joining us tonight. #engsschat

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kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

A1: I use discussions to see how much Ss know about a topic after it has been lightly introduced #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

Thanks for joining us, Tim! Hope you had a great month. #engsschat

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MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

A1: like using fishbowl with a todaysmeet backchannel; good for active talkers and active thinkers; convo documented by chat #engsschat

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

#engsschat Kelly from NJ! Discussions in classroom - fishbowl, partners, to intro a topic or wrap up

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

Welcome to tonight's chat. #engsschat

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Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

Thanks for hosting tonight! #sschat #engchat #engsschat😀

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historycomics Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1 My room is set up in tables of four. Discussion is heart of my classroom environment - life and in person #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

Welcome to tonight's chat, Kelly! Thanks for joining us tonight. #engsschat

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jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1: I'm lurking on this one: want to see how to keep Ss from dominating convo. #engsschat

travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1: Discussions open up a lively debate, especially when getting students interested in content #engsschat #ED585q

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1 #engsschat used discussion today to learn about #Feminism

philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1: we discuss the material & how it connects 2 today; also discuss current events; some done as small group; mostly whole group #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1: Discussion is both informal and formal - fishbowls, Socratic seminar, speeches, and debates all have their place! #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:07 PM EST

Agree with fishbowl. I also like Twitter to have "discussions" especially for debates and POTUS addresses. #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:05 PM EST

A1: like using fishbowl with a todaysmeet backchannel; good for active talkers and active thinkers; convo documented by chat #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:07 PM EST

Brady Velikonia - World History and Gov't. I teach in a public high school in Northern California. #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:07 PM EST

A1 I have used a variety of discussion strategies. https://t.co/eZh44npbDF Still searching for more Stu part. #engsschat

jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:07 PM EST

Hi I'm Jen from FL. Q1-I use Harkness Socratic Seminars and small group discussions. #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:07 PM EST

Thanks for joining in tonight, Brady! Welcome to #engsschat.

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Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:07 PM EST

Matt from PA teach civics, government, and have taught US and World History! Excited to be learning with you all tonight! 😀 #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:07 PM EST

Thanks for joining in tonight, Matt! Welcome to #engsschat

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scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

A1 Currently using @crfusa 's Civil Conversation model, but also do small group & whole class discussions. #engsschat

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jcaseydesign Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

A1I mostly use whole group discussion due to small class size. Would love to see my students "own" their own discussions. #engsschat

travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

A1: Discussions also let teacher know what students know and don't know about topics #engsschat #ED585q

classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

These https://t.co/JcsA3wMV6I stimulated huge student participation. Can be used with lots of different content. #engsschat

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historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

LOVE this---- mine too! I LOVE a loud class of discussion. #engsschat

historycomics Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1 My room is set up in tables of four. Discussion is heart of my classroom environment - life and in person #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

Hello #engsschat! Andrew (gr.8 SocSt from Mass.) checking in

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

Connie here from Arcadia, middle school 6-7 history:) glad to be here #engsschat #t2tcollab

teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

A1) I use discussion when looking at current or past events that have multiple views often without 1 easy right answer. #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

A1 Also love using @instituteofplay 's Socratic Smackdown. https://t.co/HABRxrQFOR Always fun for Stdnts #engsschat

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Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

Welcome Steph, it's always a fun time! #engsschat

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JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

A1:We can use discussion by having s's talk to the person beside them about what was covered in the lesson #FA #engsschat #sschat #engchat

philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

keep forgetting about the fishbowl approach; saw it once & loved it, and well... #engsschat

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

Using a fishbowl or Socratic seminar can help Ss prepare and generate their own questions on a topic. #engsschat

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MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

Ask S's to submit discussion prompts in advance w/ explanation why prompt will promote discourse #engsschat

jcaseydesign Feb 27 @ 7:08 PM EST

A1I mostly use whole group discussion due to small class size. Would love to see my students "own" their own discussions. #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

Welcome to tonight's chat, Connie! #engsschat

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flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

A1 I have loved using class discussions as Eng and SocSt tchr...so many valuable elements! But helps to focus on 1 or 2 at a time #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

Hi @MsMimura Thanks for joining us tonight. Front page story about Arcadia real estate in LA Times yesterday #engsschat

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MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

A1: Just began my first @crfusa Civil Discourse lesson on Immigration. Today was the reading, tomorrow is the discussion #engsschat

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

Thanks for joining in tonight, Andrew! Welcome to #engsschat.

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historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

Talking chips help. Buy "chips" or cut paper up&give Ss 3-4 or # u wish. Once they have used them all, cant speak until all have. #engsschat

jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1: I'm lurking on this one: want to see how to keep Ss from dominating convo. #engsschat

crfusa Feb 27 @ 7:09 PM EST

A:1 Small group discussions are good. Can be less scary for students than large group discussions.#engsschat

massignmenthelp Feb 27 @ 7:10 PM EST

#engchat #engsschat #plearnchat #formativechat #kyadmin #sschat #DubChat Project based learning https://t.co/u8MMjb1Oxk

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:10 PM EST

Hard to incorporate all the great ideas & resources we come across. #engsschat

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historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:10 PM EST

Great practice of application of content to current events. #engsschat

philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:06 PM EST

A1: we discuss the material & how it connects 2 today; also discuss current events; some done as small group; mostly whole group #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:10 PM EST

A1 This grading term, we're focusing on each student improving at 1 discussion skill while we talk politics/Constitution/etc #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

Q2A: How are debates different from discussions? Q2B: How can discussions help our students? #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

Great point! Establishing focus can give Ss enough guidance to elaborate and generate a meaningful discussion. #engsschat

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Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

I use daily small group discussions in groups of 2 and 4, every other Friday we do a whole class discussion on current events! #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:03 PM EST

Q1: How do you use discussions in the classroom? #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

The backchannel is key to all S's being engaged, quiet S's contributing, giving bowl time to reflect w/o talk pressure #engsschat

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travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

A1: Discussions can also help students generate information to begin the process of writing. A brainstorming session. #engsschat #ED585q

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

A2 #engsschat @historytechie I LOVED the deliberation we did in Washington - but debates tend to have negative connotations

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bestedwards4 Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

Pre AP American History, World History and Service Learning Middle School teacher just joining chat #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

This conversation is flying - We're already on Question 2! #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

Q2A: How are debates different from discussions? Q2B: How can discussions help our students? #engsschat

philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

have to go back to understand what backchannel actually means. is it appropriate for middle school? #engsschat

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bohndrake Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

A1- we have " official discussions" once a month on unit topics, critique scholarly articles, poems, primary documents on era #engsschat

jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

A2:Discussion elict diverse perspectives whereas debate is two sided #engsschat

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

A2:SS debates often assign sides to students and they have to use proof from class to show learning rather than opinion. #engsschat #ltc4541

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

@travisforneyTotally agree with this. Easier for many Ss to talk/brainstorm ideas outloud rather than in writing. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

I like to do discussions where point is not to win, expose ideas. Also like deliberation where identify consensus. #engsschat

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

A2 #engsschat @historytechie I LOVED the deliberation we did in Washington - but debates tend to have negative connotations
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MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

A2 #engsschat debates tend to be harsh, discussions tend to be more conversational and safe... deliberations allow for collaboration

travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:12 PM EST

A1: Debates are focused on the support of facts around an opinion. Discussions can simply revolve around any question. #engsschat #ED585q

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

2B Class disc help our Ss to develop skills to communicate and be part of a civic society & in the workplace. #engsschat

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A2: Discussion can help our students understand multiple viewpoints that they may have never considered before #engsschat #ltc4541

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A2: in my mind, discussions are an exchange of ideas, whereas debates are people trying to refute each other's claims. #engsschat

bohndrake Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A1- it was cool hearing in history class students discuss poetry by Carl Sandburg ! #engsschat

historycomics Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

Q2B discussions are more student led and less structured - less #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

I think so; todaysmeet confines chat to 140 chars; public agreement about chat ground rules and protocols is key #engsschat

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kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A2a: Debates usually planned/rehearsed/have an opposition and anticipate direction. Disccussion is more free-form & off the cuff #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

March maddness brackets are also ways to get Ss to discuss topics. #engsschat

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

A2 #engsschat @historytechie I LOVED the deliberation we did in Washington - but debates tend to have negative connotations
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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A2A: Debates have a formal format w/ typically two POW. Discussion looks at an issue from multiple POV & more involves dialogue. #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A1 It helps that our dist is moving to restorative justice circles. Students are becoming used to disc format #engsschat

JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

Q2B:By having a discussion, s's hear concepts from their peers in a way that allows them to straighten out their schemas. #engsschat #gccedu

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A2 debate = pick/defend a side ... discussion = talk around a topic -- but both should require supporting one's statements #engsschat

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

#engsschat did something like that for "Greatest American debate" - bracket set-up

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teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

A2a) Debates are about winning. A2b) Discussions are about learning a position or presenting a position. A transfer of knowledge #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

A2: debates are about learning first then winning usually; discussions are about learning together, changing thinking as you go #engsschat

bohndrake Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

A2- students become more powerful citizens when they can support their discussion and/or debate with facts & evidence #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

Students also normally see debate as a time to argue, although it may be because they haven't been properly taught how to debate. #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

^^ stealing / borrowing / applying :) #engsschat

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travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

A2B: Discussions help "get the ball rolling." #engsschat #ED585q

ramosclass Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

Structure a "madness" bracket to get Ss discussing people or events! #engsschat

ramosclass Feb 21 @ 2:55 PM EST

Socratic gavel. Cabinet,POTUS, SCOTUS March Madness next month🇺🇸
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historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

A2 Debate come in eyes shut to win. Open eyes in discussion. Open eyes & find common ground in deliberation #engsschat

jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

A2A: I find debates easier to manage in the class (Ss love to argue) - discussions are more difficult for Ss #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

Oh my gosh I love these questions! #engsschat

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AssignmentHelpN Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

#engchat #engsschat #plearnchat #kyadmin #sschat #DubChat 10 Simple Ways to Use Pinterest For Classroom Teaching https://t.co/0i2sbvZqo7

bestedwards4 Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

Debates have winners and losers. While the passion often involved in debates is awesome thoughtful consensus is risked #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

A2B: Discussion implies the conversation can move in the direction that the class takes it and involves multiple perspectives. #engsschat

JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

A2B:Discussion allows s's to hear information from their peers and straighten out their schema.This allows for more area to learn #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:15 PM EST

Does that strategy lean the class more toward debate or discussion? #engsschat

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MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:16 PM EST

A1/2 Discussions around a topic of study.Debate a topic and defend position. Discuss themes & listen - more engagement #engsschat #t2tcollab

philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:16 PM EST

A2: with debates Ss seem 2 believe the goal is 2 win; discussion R 2 understand each other through clarity of points being heard #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:16 PM EST

Great point! Discussions can continue and evolve over time. There doesn't have to be a winning answer or position. #engsschat

In reply to @bestedwards4

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:16 PM EST

Project info https://t.co/SDWRx6Sk0u We are using this model https://t.co/1tKVCczcu1 #engsschat

In reply to @jharmon1972, @crfusa

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

we've used it more for debate #engsschat

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jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

Agreed - Proper debate tactics, logic, fallacies, etc should be properly taught in HS so it's not the "loudest wins" #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST

Students also normally see debate as a time to argue, although it may be because they haven't been properly taught how to debate. #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

Still think it's important for students to understand/experience mechanics of debate since that's the format of much of our gov't #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

Yeah, I thought so since it sets up a binary choice #engsschat

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Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

The point of a discussion is to learn from others and to find your own voice. The point of a debate is to win. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

Q2A: How are debates different from discussions? Q2B: How can discussions help our students? #engsschat

bohndrake Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

A2- here was our discussion today - I gave them the scholarly readings, they made their own questions to discuss w/ each other #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

Yes- Diversity of POV is important for our Ss to understand! #engsschat

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:13 PM EST

A2: Discussion can help our students understand multiple viewpoints that they may have never considered before #engsschat #ltc4541

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:17 PM EST

A2 #engsschat how do we teach discussion vs. debate? (or is that a Q?!)

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:18 PM EST

Brilliant! I use brackets so students can practice a speech in small groups before giving it to whole class. #engsschat

ramosclass Feb 27 @ 7:14 PM EST
Structure a "madness" bracket to get Ss discussing people or events! #engsschat
- ramosclass Feb 21 @ 2:55 PM EST
  
  Socratic gavel. Cabinet,POTUS, SCOTUS March Madness next month🇺🇸
  In reply to @ALHS_Library

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:18 PM EST

Welcome to tonight's chat, Becca! #engsschat

In reply to @schaeffer_ra

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:18 PM EST

... or to talk face-to-face. That's one of the biggest changes I've noticed in the student body in the past 10 yrs. #engsschat

In reply to @MrVelikonia

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

Q3A: Share a controversial issue disc you have held in class- What worked? Q3B: What insights did you gain that may help others? #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

Emilee, tonight we're using the combined #engsschat! Thanks for joining us!

In reply to @emilee_mad

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

I have a hard time with awkward silences. Not talking is the hardest part for me. #engsschat

In reply to @jharmon1972

randomawwpics Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

#engsschat

GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

Great visual. I use the term dialog for deliberation. Listening is key. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

loudest wins = #passtheadvil #engsschat

In reply to @jharmon1972

philpuzz Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

used a bracket approach to have Ss analyze the most offensive British acts on the colonists. loved the analysis. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

ramosclass Feb 27 @ 7:20 PM EST

I like to do inner/outer circle with a chair for outer circle. Discussion reviewed at beginning & guidelines displayed. #engsschat

ramosclass Feb 21 @ 3:19 PM EST

Trump's Immigration Executive Order Socratic under way💙🇺🇸❤

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:20 PM EST

A3 #engsschat we discussed #womensrights and #feminism in class today - we "faced off" like a debate, but it was more of a discussion

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:20 PM EST

So many great ideas! Keep them coming with question 3! #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

Q3A: Share a controversial issue disc you have held in class- What worked? Q3B: What insights did you gain that may help others? #engsschat

jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:20 PM EST

Silence is the best part! Thoughtfulness in action.#engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

I have a hard time with awkward silences. Not talking is the hardest part for me. #engsschat
In reply to @jharmon1972

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:20 PM EST

A3: We have discussed historiography / viewpoints that may have influenced the narrative of the Rape of the Sabine Women #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:20 PM EST

It's hard to have a real-time Snapchat debate! #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:20 PM EST

Discussions can help our students find their voice and learn from others. Kids will surprise you in discussions all the time! #engsschat 😀

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:11 PM EST

Q2A: How are debates different from discussions? Q2B: How can discussions help our students? #engsschat

classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:21 PM EST

A3 One of the hardest discussions we had followed the massacre at Columbine HS in 1999. Discussion lasted several days. 1/2 #engsschat

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:21 PM EST

Agreed! Debates allow Ss to prepare background knowledge for defense, but discussions allow Ss to be timid #engsschat

In reply to @jharmon1972

travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:21 PM EST

The most recent election was mostly controversy. Stick to facts, support with evidence. #engsschat #ED585q

The_American_A Feb 27 @ 7:21 PM EST

Today is the tomorrow of yesterday. Today is the day in history !➜ https://t.co/1nRjfLp3fW Don't stagnate - GROW with capture ! #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A3 Holy Govt Socratic.Topics: Devos/Edu, Immigration Exec Order, Session/Justice Dept. Reading 3 news #engsschat https://t.co/nBmTZF2IJp

schaeffer_ra Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A2A: Debates tend toward more structure & focus - discussions can follow the interests of the class, wherever they go #engsschat

jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A2B. Discussions can uncover different points of view. Can teach Ss to listen, not be reactive or argumentative #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A3: It was difficult for students to understand at 1dt. Using modern day examples like Stanford assault case provided context #engsschat

teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A3a) Should films be factual? A3b) That students, no matter the steps or policies, will fight just 4 fun sometimes LOL #engsschat

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A3B #engsschat I think you have to establish boundaries, if not "rules" or a protocol - otherwise it can run away from you!

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

Just finished Devos, Sessions & Immigration. I had2remind some of my evangelical Ss 2 focus on the gov/policy & less on religion #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A3: pause periodically to collect thoughts in writing; make a statement, re-make it from a diff PoV, consider how meaning changes #engsschat

classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A3 (continued) Here are some of the things I brought in for students to consider/discuss. https://t.co/QMMFctFUs9 #engsschat 2/2

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:23 PM EST

Agree- Ts may have to respectfully redirect the discussion. #engsschat

MsGrotrian Feb 27 @ 7:22 PM EST

A3B #engsschat I think you have to establish boundaries, if not "rules" or a protocol - otherwise it can run away from you!

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:23 PM EST

Excellent topics. Women's rights discussions are both important and engaging for students! #engsschat

In reply to @MsGrotrian

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:23 PM EST

A3A: Adapted from somewhere: [https://t.co/nIj6k3RUJS] Let Ss boo/hiss/huzzah in classic parliamentary style: increased particip! #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:23 PM EST

Gender issues & the election - these are certainly sensitive issues, but Ss need to discern facts & how to present evidence. #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:23 PM EST

A3: first time I tried a debate in my Gov't class, I allowed students to pick the topics using https://t.co/4gEfxdsovc #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:24 PM EST

A3: Takeaway --> I tell the Ss I'm not looking for an answer, but for them to think in new ways. takes the pressure off #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:24 PM EST

A3 Did a great videoconf w @PeterPaccone 's class. One section of students for the wall, the other against. #engsschat

In reply to @PeterPaccone

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:24 PM EST

A3b) At beginning of year, had Ss set criteria for productive discussion (what it looked & sounded like). Could refer to/edit. #engsschat

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:24 PM EST

A3: We recently discussed this past presidential election and the implications new policies had for our Ss #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:24 PM EST

Yes- We as educators need to model & teach Ss how to discuss- NOT what they see on tv & social media #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:23 PM EST

Gender issues & the election - these are certainly sensitive issues, but Ss need to discern facts & how to present evidence. #engsschat

jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

A3: Transgender issue - we focused on arguments of Dems and Reps and whether it was a 14th Am issue - many Ss changed view #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

Awesome takeaway. Take the pressure off and gets them to think! #engsschat

In reply to @kbryteaches

jcaseydesign Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

A2 I think of debates as being more polarizing (sometimes intentionally) and persuasive where discussion is more open minded #engsschat

jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

Thanks for the website tip! #engsschat

In reply to @MrVelikonia

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

A3: Although I'm not a teacher yet, I think controversial topics are some of the best to discuss to provoke the most learning. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

Yes- @procon_org is a great resource to use with Ss to examine both sides of an issue #engsschat

In reply to @procon_org

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:23 PM EST

A3: first time I tried a debate in my Gov't class, I allowed students to pick the topics using https://t.co/4gEfxdsovc #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

Did they need much guidance to generate the rules you were looking for (b/c of course you had things in mind already)? #engsschat

In reply to @CHitch94

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:26 PM EST

97% positive S feedback, followed with reflection on chat transcript; 3% chose fishbowl or chat as focus #engsschat

In reply to @jcaseydesign, @philpuzz

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:26 PM EST

AGREE! #engsschat

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

A3: Although I'm not a teacher yet, I think controversial topics are some of the best to discuss to provoke the most learning. #engsschat

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:26 PM EST

Not really. These were HS Ss so they kind of knew the drill. :) But, yes, I could offer pts as well. #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:26 PM EST

A3 We have had some informal discussion about the protests post inauguration. Asking Ss to empathize with the other side did help #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:26 PM EST

& there truly are no answers in most cases, hence why we bother discussing these things #engsschat

In reply to @Mrneilhistory

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:27 PM EST

Q4: How do you prepare students to hold discussion? Ground rules? #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:27 PM EST

A3b: If you're assessing Ss formally, then pick 1 or 2 specific skills .. not just "number of times they talked" #engsschat

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:27 PM EST

Love this! Allows them to play devil's advocate with themselves and challenge their minds to perceive opposing viewpoints #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:24 PM EST

A3: Takeaway --> I tell the Ss I'm not looking for an answer, but for them to think in new ways. takes the pressure off #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:27 PM EST

Must urge S's to avoid bias confirmation and seek new understanding, perspectives, issue nuances #engsschat

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:25 PM EST

A3: Although I'm not a teacher yet, I think controversial topics are some of the best to discuss to provoke the most learning. #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:27 PM EST

Ss Yes-Ss need to be taught to have a respectful dialogue & learn to find credible sources by discussing these topics #engsschat

In reply to @Lee_EmilyF

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

A4 Groundrules- RESPECT! Disagree with point/comment- no personal attacks. I display these guidelines #engsschat

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

Absolutely agree! If they just get credit for saying anything, what's the point? #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

Close read/watched FDR, JFK, and DJT's inaugural speeches. Discussed meaning and what was most inspiring to students and why. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:19 PM EST

Q3A: Share a controversial issue disc you have held in class- What worked? Q3B: What insights did you gain that may help others? #engsschat

JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

A4: A safe classroom environment needs to be established first so s's aren't afraid to speak up and share their input! #engsschat #gccedu

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

A4) I kind of jumped the fun on this one w/ my prev response but have Ss help set groundrules. Works well w/ HS Ss. #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

A4: I know this isn't totally original, but I've adapted the ROPES for my classroom as the groundwork: https://t.co/5QXwr6hjAo #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

A4: this is where I'm weak...I was never taught to debate. I would love to participate in some PD around debate rules/structure #engsschat

GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

What is the role of the guide? #engsschat

In reply to @ramosclass

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

Thanks for sharing so many amazing ideas! Here's question 4. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:27 PM EST

Q4: How do you prepare students to hold discussion? Ground rules? #engsschat

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

Yes! Why I love it, we need to open our eyes! #engsschat

In reply to @MsJWhiting

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

Yes, no answers and many answers! :) #engsschat

In reply to @kbryteaches

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

yeah #seewhatididthere #engsschat

In reply to @CHitch94

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:29 PM EST

A4 Teach students that the most important part of a discussion is LISTENING https://t.co/EkPtIWpprt #engsschat

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:29 PM EST

A4: Important to set expectations, but more beneficial to allow Ss to come up with rules themselves. Also more likely to follow #engsschat

crfusa Feb 27 @ 7:29 PM EST

Groundrules are impt. Sets expectations. See example from @crfusa Civil Conversation guide.#engsschat

In reply to @crfusa

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:30 PM EST

A4 Earlier this year I used Teaching Tolerance's civility contract which successfully avoided ugliness: https://t.co/AABfNLSLkr #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:30 PM EST

@historytechie's useful infographic game is strong. 🙌👊 #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM EST

A4 Groundrules- RESPECT! Disagree with point/comment- no personal attacks. I display these guidelines #engsschat

clairegartland Feb 27 @ 7:30 PM EST

A4: I think discussion rules need to be throughly talked about and its important to make sure students feel safe from judgment #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:30 PM EST

I did this today. It was pretty funny...some Ss noted they KNEW they were bad at some...especially listening! #honesty #engsschat

In reply to @crfusa

jdcicero147 Feb 27 @ 7:30 PM EST

A4: Teach Ss full body listening, language of agreement/disagreement/opinion, and accountable talk. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:30 PM EST

Yes! Teachers often set participation points by frequency Ss speak, consider having them take notes of what others say too? #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:29 PM EST

A4 Teach students that the most important part of a discussion is LISTENING https://t.co/EkPtIWpprt #engsschat

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:31 PM EST

And they can also benefit from evaluating how the rules worked & determining what, if any changes, needed. #engsschat

In reply to @emilee_mad

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:31 PM EST

A4: It’s important to lay down that we must be respectful of each others opinions and experiences before discussion. #engsschat #ltc4541

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:31 PM EST

We have now entered @scottmpetri 's wheelhouse :) #engsschat

In reply to @scottmpetri

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:29 PM EST

A4 Teach students that the most important part of a discussion is LISTENING https://t.co/EkPtIWpprt #engsschat

teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:31 PM EST

A4. Respect for peers. Discuss ideas not people. If you are going to disrespect some1 it better be me as I’m paid to handle it #engsschat

bestedwards4 Feb 27 @ 7:32 PM EST

A4 I used CRF's ground rules today... what a positive difference! #engsschat

clairegartland Feb 27 @ 7:32 PM EST

very true. you need to make sure that everyone comes together at the end and goes over what each of their groups said #engsschat

In reply to @crfusa

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:32 PM EST

The kids did an exceptional job. Most had only heard 1 or none of the speeches. They were really engrossed! #engsschat

In reply to @CHitch94

GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:32 PM EST

A4 Most important rule - listen. #engsschat

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:32 PM EST

Post-discussion, I ask Ss to write about who made the best points & pushed their thinking. #engsschat

In reply to @emilee_mad

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:33 PM EST

@scottmpetri My own teachers always indicated that contributions need to further the conversation. #engsschat

In reply to @emilee_mad, @scottmpetri

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:33 PM EST

A3 Discussed Ray Bradbury's The Vedlt & the fault of the tragic end. Impact of tech discussion was g8 @GreatBooksFnd #engsschat #t2tcollab

In reply to @GreatBooksFnd

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:33 PM EST

Like @crfusa Civ Convo discussion graphic org to prep Ss with reading & post disc reflection #engsschat

In reply to @crfusa

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:33 PM EST

"Discuss ideas, not people" People are more than one moment in time. Love this. #engsschat

In reply to @teach_4_food

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:34 PM EST

I'm totally using it! #engsschat

In reply to @jdcicero147, @historytechie

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:34 PM EST

general Q for #engsschat: How long should a good class discussion last? My 8th graders usually run low on gas in ~25 minutes.

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:34 PM EST

If my mother or wife knew I was teaching listening skills, the laughter would be deafening! #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

cheffernan75 Feb 27 @ 7:34 PM EST

A4 We introduced the "mute button" a few years ago. Ss can mute someone who might be dominating the chat. Only I can unmute. #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:34 PM EST

A4: Having a note-taking system and graphic organizer to prepare helps all Ss (Even the quiet ones) get involved in discussion. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

Q5: How do you select your discussion readings? Please share resources! #engsschat

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

A4 Socratic Seminars & Philosophical Chairs. Rules for engagement need to be taught prior according to class environ #engsschat #t2tcollab

bestedwards4 Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

A4 It's imperative that documents are the experts in the room. This helps to focus on ideas not classroom personalities #engsschat

cheffernan75 Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

that sounds about right. My 7th graders need a reboot at 20. #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

I'd say as long as they need. I'd think that 25 minutes was pretty good for middle school. #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

I generally divide the class into 1/3 and they run 20-25 min. Sometimes they really want & need more time. #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:34 PM EST

general Q for #engsschat: How long should a good class discussion last? My 8th graders usually run low on gas in ~25 minutes.

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

That's awesome! I'm a newbie and need to time to plan #engsschat #t2tcollab

In reply to @bestedwards4

classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

Length of disc depends completely on students' engagement in the topic. When engaged, discussion can go for days #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

And may help contain the overzealous ones. :) #engsschat

In reply to @Steph_Sukow

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:36 PM EST

Thoughtfulness. That's something we could all use more of. :) #engsschat

In reply to @jjolleymsd

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:36 PM EST

We are a lost cause ... these children are The Future!!! They still have a chance! #engsschat

In reply to @scottmpetri

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:36 PM EST

Yes, facilitating correctly is key #engsschat #t2tcollab

In reply to @teach_4_food

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:36 PM EST

Agreed. Start w/ small goals. 10 minutes of S-led discuss is hard for MS Ss #engsschat

In reply to @classroomtools, @flipping_A_tchr

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:37 PM EST

A5: https://t.co/4gEfxdsovc is good for getting both sides of a controversial issue. #engsschat

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:37 PM EST

depends on complexity of discussion. Simple questions get simple answers. Encourage Ss to consider opposing view #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

cheffernan75 Feb 27 @ 7:37 PM EST

A5 I try to have a text set if 2-3 articles that are somewhat connected. Has to be a topic that Ss care enough about. #notboring #engsschat

GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:37 PM EST

Agreed. The evidence is the star. #engsschat

In reply to @bestedwards4

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:37 PM EST

@nytimes and @NYTimesLearning always have great resources. Exposing Ss to current events is key! #engsschat

In reply to @nytimes, @NYTimesLearning

travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:38 PM EST

Discussions last depending on level-honors 8th could go all period. 15-20 mins is good. #engsschat #ED585q

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:38 PM EST

Okay, glad to see I'm on the general spectrum!! My goal is to hear from each of my 20 Ss for about 60 seconds --> 20 minutes #engsschat

jcaseydesign Feb 27 @ 7:38 PM EST

A2B Always amused to hear Ss surprise w/ea other's positions on disc topics. Social interaction is dif from academic discussion #engsschat

StudentsHistory Feb 27 @ 7:39 PM EST

Agree, past 25 mins drags, but brief breaks where Ss read, talk in group, watch clip, or analyze a doc is great way to extend #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:34 PM EST

general Q for #engsschat: How long should a good class discussion last? My 8th graders usually run low on gas in ~25 minutes.

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:39 PM EST

A5) https://t.co/h6muq3It6D gives stories on diff topics from variety of perspectives. Curate & tag sources in Pocket. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:39 PM EST

A5 Use @procon_org @Newsela Ss examine multiple news orgs and @crfusa deliberations https://t.co/1w4Hcp3Hbt #engsschat

In reply to @procon_org, @Newsela, @crfusa

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:39 PM EST

Give S's (primary) text with words removed that identify source; S's discuss filling in gender, race, class identifiers #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

A5 Like having Ss look at global events from intl perspective with @NewseumED Front Pages #engsschat

In reply to @NewseumED

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

Frontline documentaries from PBS are awesome for eliciting discussion and debate, too. #engsschat https://t.co/6N3LFdHBLx

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

Frontline documentaries from PBS are awesome for eliciting discussion and debate, too. #engsschat https://t.co/W52JJ8vekF

teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

A5 In the past I used primary sources from books. The internet has made it harder to find quality resources. Too much chaff #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

A5: keep the resources coming! I've also allowed students to use notes from movies and documentaries. #engsschat

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

A5: For middle school JS Magazine from @ScholasticTeach or Upfront mags are awesome! #engsschat #t2tcollab

In reply to @ScholasticTeach

StudentsHistory Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

Have to pre-plan questions and discussion starters, but need to go with flow and be ready to change on the fly #engsschat

In reply to @TemaniBeck

crfusa Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

As long as the resource presents more than one side of the issue, you can get a good discussion going! #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:40 PM EST

Remind S's if they think there are only two sides to an issue, they are likely missing a lot! #engsschat

travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:41 PM EST

Good discussions depend on teacher to "pump prime" to bring in new ideas to facilitate new/further ideas. #engsschat #ED585q

teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:41 PM EST

A5 CRF and the Stanford History project have great resources. Always looking for other high quality vetted sources. #engsschat

jdcicero147 Feb 27 @ 7:41 PM EST

2-3 high interest short texts with related subjects/theme. Love using quotes to engage Ss in historical writing. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:41 PM EST

Kids pick current event articles. They read and create discussion questions. We then discuss from those topics. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST

Q5: How do you select your discussion readings? Please share resources! #engsschat

Refthinking Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

Thought this was apt for #engsschat this week! Blog post on this at https://t.co/EJbmhOvdtI

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

Q6: What do you expect students to bring to discussions? #engsschat

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

for World History, the PBS doc. on Napoleon is great! He is such a polarizing figure. Ss have such diverse opinions! #engsschat

In reply to @Steph_Sukow

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

A5: In class, we were shown https://t.co/pd0sJHKyOj and taught to encourage Ss to "Read Like A Historian" w/ primary docs #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

CRF Civil Convo on Immigration & Syria https://t.co/gm1UE9xwwn #engsschat

grizgoat Feb 27 @ 7:37 PM EST

I realized last week that I need to do a better job with this. Any resources or ideas #PikeDLC can share with me ?

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

I usually use an excerpt from a primary text that lends itself well to close-reading to get started. #engsschat

In reply to @teach_4_food

mjahnke95 Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

my teacher said should discussion should no more than 3-5 mins bc then students get off task #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

Consider using @flipgrid and continuing discussions outside of class. It gives the introverts more control #engsschat

In reply to @flipgrid

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

A6) Preparation (have engaged w/ sources meaningfully) and an open mind. #engsschat

travisforney Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

A5: Check out https://t.co/JISVPKJQom to get awesome tiered/leveled readings to go along with class content. #engsschat #ED585q

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

Love the inclusion of student voice in selecting topics. They have found really interesting topics to get convos going #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:41 PM EST
Kids pick current event articles. They read and create discussion questions. We then discuss from those topics. #engsschat
- historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:35 PM EST
  
  Q5: How do you select your discussion readings? Please share resources! #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

Here's question 6! #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

Q6: What do you expect students to bring to discussions? #engsschat

JLukeT94 Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

and to make sure that all sources are from reliable sources when being used #engsschat

In reply to @Lee_EmilyF

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

Preparation, thoughtfulness, open hearts and minds, pen and paper, their experiences, and their opinions. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:42 PM EST

Q6: What do you expect students to bring to discussions? #engsschat

JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

A6: Expect s's to come prepared by reading the documents ahead of time. Most important: Bring their personality/unique insight #engsschat

jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

A6 I expect they'll bring opinions from home - some that need discussed and dissected #engsschat

mjahnke95 Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

I would say discussions should happen naturally then you know what they want to talk about + learning for themselves #engsschat

In reply to @TemaniBeck

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

For my students, being able to speak confidently is a triumph in-and-of-itself at times. #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

Well, it depends on the size of the crowd but 5 minutes sounds really short to me, esp to hear each S's voice #engsschat

In reply to @mjahnke95

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

Along these lines, my Ss have some meaningful discussions via GDocs comments in online courses. #engsschat

In reply to @scottmpetri, @flipgrid

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

in love with SHEG! #engsschat

In reply to @emilee_mad

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

A6: Come with an understanding, an opinion, and an open mind! #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

A6: to discussion bring open-mind, willingness to listen, empathy, desire to understand (not overpower), comfort with discomfort #engsschat

cheffernan75 Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

A6 EVIDENCE AND IDEAS! Nothing worse than a discussion without preparation! #engsschat

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

A6: A unique perspective. I'm always amazed by the ideas that come up that I never would have considered. Always raise more ?s #engsschat

inpul001 Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

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JLukeT94 Feb 27 @ 7:44 PM EST

I think the more relevant you make it to the students is important. Good quality can be quantity #engsschat

In reply to @flipping_A_tchr

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

A6: Notes, evidence, and quotes are key to discussion prep. This helps all Ss engage in and share ideas during discussion. #engsschat

jcaseydesign Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

A4 Evaluating someone's position is different from judging someone's person. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

A6 Open minds, ears open, respect, complete the reading, research/evidence-- no alternative facts is the buzz word these days. #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

Is a game changer for me. Putting the kids and their interests (with guidance) at the center of the discussion. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

Bringing opinions from home and talking them out can also fix misconceptions! #engsschat

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cvarsalona Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

Post on #CriticalThinking https://t.co/Z5dmpJqpit #engsschat

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emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

LOVE Gdocs and the collaboration is allows Ss to participate in! #engsschat

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CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

That is so true! I love learning from my Ss - and try to make obvious when that happens. #engsschat

In reply to @kbryteaches

jdcicero147 Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

RESPECT for others thoughts/opinions, preparedness, and an open mind! #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

10-15 minutes to prep, 20-25 to talk, 5-10 to debrief ... that's a full class period for us!! #engsschat #pleasenofirealarm

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scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:45 PM EST

This @erik_palmer article can make speaking less anxious for introverts https://t.co/HhqgMxPSGM #engsschat

In reply to @CHitch94, @erik_palmer

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

A6: open mindedness, willing to listen to ideas that are in contrast to their own RESPECTFULLY. #engsschat

MrsMurat Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

A6: facts, stats, critical thinking, listening skills, respect. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

YES_ media literacy and reliability of sources is IMP for us to teach our Ss... reliable and fact check! #engsschat

JLukeT94 Feb 27 @ 7:43 PM EST

and to make sure that all sources are from reliable sources when being used #engsschat
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historycomics Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

Sorry - kid issues - had to bow out. I'll catch up later - good night all! Great topic. #engsschat

jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

Me too! #engsschat

In reply to @MrVelikonia, @emilee_mad

mjahnke95 Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

good point!If students seemengaged you can make the discussion golonger bcyou want tomake sure they can enjoy the topic #engsschat

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Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

Do any of you have student teachers now or have you had them in the past? I'm going to encourage mine to check out #engsschat

cvarsalona Feb 27 @ 7:47 PM EST

Great answer. I especially want Ss 2 listen well, think thoroughly about the topic, effectively collaborate, share #engsschat

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Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:47 PM EST

Thanks for joining us tonight, Tim! Have a good one. #engsschat

In reply to @historycomics

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:47 PM EST

I use so many in my World History class! #engsschat

In reply to @jjolleymsd, @emilee_mad

TemaniBeck Feb 27 @ 7:47 PM EST

I agree 100%. Plans should determine ⏱. Also think Ts should consider daily objective in planning discussions. #engsschat

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jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:47 PM EST

Love @SHEG_Stanford #engsschat

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jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:46 PM EST

Me too! #engsschat
In reply to @MrVelikonia, @emilee_mad

Lee_EmilyF Feb 27 @ 7:47 PM EST

A6: I expect them to bring their open minds ready to participate thoughtfully! They need to be ready to listen and learn.. #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:48 PM EST

Thanks Carol! Listening, thinking, collaborating, and sharing are huge too! :) #engsschat

In reply to @cvarsalona

cpoole27 Feb 27 @ 7:48 PM EST

feel free to have them check out this private FB group for Ts as well for encouragement https://t.co/DzncJ4uf08 #engsschat

In reply to @Mrneilhistory

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:49 PM EST

Any advice on how to teach listening skills? #engsschat

jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:49 PM EST

I also use @TeachAmHistory resources in my World History/Gov classes. #engsschat

In reply to @MrVelikonia, @emilee_mad, @TeachAmHistory

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:50 PM EST

Thanks Andrew! I love #sschat and #engsschat too! This topic tonight is crazy good and I think he's going to love it!

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historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:50 PM EST

When having Ss bring in news articles, have them complete these steps to evaluate if info is credible. #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:50 PM EST

Takes some practice to design good open-ended topics. I've seem some fall flat that I thought were great #engsschat

In reply to @bestedwards4, @mjahnke95

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:50 PM EST

#engsschat #t2tcollab @Mrneilhistory Thanks! I'll request to join:)

In reply to @cpoole27, @Mrneilhistory

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:51 PM EST

Q7A: What are potential issues w/whole class or small group discussions w/students? Q7B: How can teachers deal w/these issues? #engsschat

jdcicero147 Feb 27 @ 7:51 PM EST

Create a culture where Ss are comfortable challenging each other's thinking in non threatening environment! #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:51 PM EST

What do you think you heard? Does body language confirm that? What question do you want to ask about what you heard? #engsschat

In reply to @kbryteaches

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:51 PM EST

This chat is winding down! The hour has gone so fast. Here's question 7. #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:51 PM EST

Q7A: What are potential issues w/whole class or small group discussions w/students? Q7B: How can teachers deal w/these issues? #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:51 PM EST

I just got my Checkology premium code this weekend! Very excited to explore.... #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:52 PM EST

Here's another current event graphic org to use with Ss when they are sourcing articles via @TheNewsLP #engsschat https://t.co/PfBeYi8Py5

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jcaseydesign Feb 27 @ 7:52 PM EST

A7 That emotions will run high OUTSIDE the classroom. #engsschat

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:52 PM EST

A7) W/ small group discussion, can be hard to monitor to ensure Ss are staying on task. Having good ?s helps. :) #engsschat

jharmon1972 Feb 27 @ 7:52 PM EST

A7: Oh so many - off topic, dominating Ss, disengaged Ss, heated discussion, offending Ss, --- but it's worth it! #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:52 PM EST

A7 I worry about quieter Ss. They often have great evidence & insights to share. Teaching Ss to encourage others to share is key #engsschat

JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:52 PM EST

A7A Students talking over one another and not listening to each other could be some problems #engsschat 1/2

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:53 PM EST

You will LOVE it! Getting my students back on it next week after the CCSS conference #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:51 PM EST

I just got my Checkology premium code this weekend! Very excited to explore.... #engsschat
In reply to @historytechie

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:53 PM EST

Thank Liz! Is this on the website #engsschat #t2tcollab

In reply to @historytechie

cpoole27 Feb 27 @ 7:53 PM EST

just accepted you in. Welcome to the group Connie! #engsschat

In reply to @MsMimura, @Mrneilhistory

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:53 PM EST

Here's an article I just finished. https://t.co/EkPtIWpprt #engsschat

flipping_A_tchr Feb 27 @ 7:50 PM EST

@scottmpetri
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JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:54 PM EST

A7B Ts can fix this by establishing clear boundaries and rules that demonstrate respect to one another and enforcing those rules #engsschat

teach_4_food Feb 27 @ 7:54 PM EST

A7a Getting participation from everyone is a challenge A7b I use dice to randomly select. Get a D&D set d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20 #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:54 PM EST

@dcd711 This chat #engsschat is in our wheelhouse. Civil discussions in English & Social Studies. :) Think you'll love it. Great resources!

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MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:54 PM EST

I second this tweet! #engsschat

In reply to @jharmon1972

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:54 PM EST

A7: I want Ss to take ownership. Establishing structure (ie: seminar or fishbowl) has helped Ss prepare & generate their own ?s. #engsschat

MsJWhiting Feb 27 @ 7:54 PM EST

Ask S's to list possible discussion probs, then S's develop convo rules to keep probs in check; self-accountability #engsschat

classroomtools Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

What worked for me was having each group report the results of its disc to the class, followed by full class disc. #engsschat

In reply to @CHitch94

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

A7 Remind Ss to disagree with statements, NO personal attacks. Sources and cite evidence. #engsschat

jdcicero147 Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

A7: In gr 5, whole class discussions work better for modeling expectations, small group better for ind practice. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

Wonder if doing an online discussion is possible for those kids. Depends on whether you're going for content/skill #engsschat

In reply to @Steph_Sukow

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

Thanks for sharing this great article, Scott! https://t.co/XZDnfb5hQE #engsschat #listening

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GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

A7 There is always the issue of including everyone, regardless of size of group. Limit time or # responses. Pt1 of 2 #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

Thanks for sharing this great article, Scott! https://t.co/F2ukPAISMY #engsschat #listening

In reply to @scottmpetri

MrVelikonia Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

@Hippycatlover join in the fun of #engsschat next week!

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CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

Yes! This is a great strategy. And then reflect afterwards to see how things work & refine for next time. #engsschat

In reply to @MsJWhiting

MsMimura Feb 27 @ 7:55 PM EST

A6/7 Ss should be prepared to discuss topics ahead of time 4 MS. Issue with going off topic or hogging 2 much time #engsschat #t2tcollab

GeoJo22 Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

A7. Take turns. If you only have 1 shot, better pay attention & make it good. Pt 2 of 2 #engsschat

emilee_mad Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

This was me as a student, I'd rather do a paper or project than debate. Remember to offer a variety of platforms for Ss to share #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:52 PM EST

A7 I worry about quieter Ss. They often have great evidence & insights to share. Teaching Ss to encourage others to share is key #engsschat

cvarsalona Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

I am glad that I joined #engsschat if only for a few moments.

In reply to @Mrneilhistory

DillanFord5 Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

Thought this was apt for #engsschat this week! Blog post on this at MORE >> https://t.co/YhfI0K4bqX

DillanFord5 Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

Q6: What do you expect students to bring to discussions? #engsschat MORE >> https://t.co/YhfI0K4bqX

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

I've tried @TodaysMeet & the question feature in Google Classroom. I still want Ss to practice F2F engagement, too. #engsschat

In reply to @kbryteaches, @TodaysMeet

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

Or something like VoiceThread or Flipgrid to develop vocal speaking skills. #engsschat

In reply to @kbryteaches, @Steph_Sukow

jjolleymsd Feb 27 @ 7:56 PM EST

I have my student write an exit slip: "Name one student you learned from today." "What questions do you still have?" #engsschat

historytechie Feb 27 @ 7:57 PM EST

Q8: What questions do you have about engaging students in discussions? Controversial issues? #engsschat

jdcicero147 Feb 27 @ 7:57 PM EST

A7B: Teach Ss to agree/disagree w/ ideas NOT people. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie

scottmpetri Feb 27 @ 7:57 PM EST

Thanks @Steph_Sukow @historytechie & @crfusa Great topic. Lot's of info to read through later. #engsschat

In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @historytechie, @crfusa

kbryteaches Feb 27 @ 7:57 PM EST

yeah, definitely a skill they will need, and often! #engsschat

In reply to @Steph_Sukow

WDbeGDgUWb57ZES Feb 27 @ 7:58 PM EST

تصوير خليجية وهي تتناك في طيزها علي الواقف https://t.co/99bIXIKcU0 hyr #engsschat

Mrneilhistory Feb 27 @ 7:58 PM EST

Gotta run shortly here, my wife is awesome and said "go for it" when I told her the topic. We pushed back dinner! #Iamaluckyguy #engsschat

CHitch94 - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:58 PM EST

Love this! Part of each lesson for my online courses, Ss describe how another S's work influenced their thinking. #engsschat

In reply to @jjolleymsd

hackmylearning Feb 27 @ 7:59 PM EST

One chapter from each Hack Learning book is shared. Digital version is free. https://t.co/Xgnck5DYTy #engsschat #kyadmin #leadwithgiants

JessieJPyle Feb 27 @ 7:59 PM EST

A8: How do you get a class engaged that doesn't enjoy discussion or the "I don't know"ers? #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:59 PM EST

We're looking for awesome #engsschat topics & people to host in the coming months. Fill out this form if interested: https://t.co/JM0rYKMe40

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 7:59 PM EST

I love the idea of pairing classes together with @TodaysMeet. I'll have to check out @flipgrid. #engsschat

In reply to @historytechie, @CHitch94, @TodaysMeet, @flipgrid

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 8:00 PM EST

Thanks for joining us tonight. The archives will be up soon. Keep the conversation going with #sschat & #engchat all month long! #engsschat

Steph_Sukow - Moderator Feb 27 @ 8:00 PM EST

Thanks to our guest host, @historytechie for such a lively and inspiring discussion! #YouRock #engsschat

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