#gtchat Archive

Global #gtchat Powered by TAGT is a weekly chat on Twitter that takes place on Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT and 5 p.m. PT in the U.S. For one hour, parents, educators, advocates and experts in the field of gifted and talented gather to share resources, links, authentic life experiences and insights about gifted issues.

Thursday February 8, 2018
8:00 PM EST

  • participatechat Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #gtchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/BEJoOh0jXO
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    My tweets for the next hour will be devoted to Global #gtchat ( #gifted #talented ) Powered by #TAGT Please join the conversation!
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to Global Gifted and Talented Chat Powered by the Texas Association for the Gifted & Talented @TxGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us to chat about “Ability Grouping and Self-Esteem of Gifted Students” #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hi, parent in Connecticut. #gtchat
  • ChallengeClass Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hello everyone! GT teacher in Katy, Texas @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Please take a minute to let us know who you are and where you’re tweeting from! #gtchat
  • Giftedkidsguide Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi all... Carol Bainbridge here from Indiana. Writer about gifted kids, parent of one, and advocate for the verbally gifted. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi, Jeremy! #gtchat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • OkemaForever Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Okema | Parent | Greensboro, North Carolina #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hi, Carol! #gtchat
    In reply to @Giftedkidsguide
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hi! Jo Freitag from Gifted Resources and Sprite's Site Victoria Australia here at noon Friday for #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    I’m Lisa Conrad ~ advocate for gifted children, conference presenter, blogger and mother of two gifted adults from Pittsburgh, PA #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi, Jo! #gtchat Advisor
    • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
      Hi! Jo Freitag from Gifted Resources and Sprite's Site Victoria Australia here at noon Friday for #gtchat
  • AnnaCalven Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Anna Calven, 6-12 Gifted Facilitator, Wichita, KS Metro. #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    oops- had the wrong account up... Hi Everyone! GT teacher in Katy, Texas @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi. Gail Post from outside of Philly (although didn't go to the Eagles parade today!) Psychologist, writer, parent of two #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Jodi! #TAGT
  • KatyNRatliff Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    @gtchatmod Hi! Katy, teacher in Texas #gtchat
  • AlexandraClough Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi! Alex Clough. Educator and parent of two 2e kiddos. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi, Anna! #gtchat
    In reply to @AnnaCalven
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    #gtchat hi everyone! I’m Kelly from WA. I am teacher, mama to homeschooled 2e DS 12, author of @GiftedHF newest book!
    In reply to @gtchatmod, @GiftedHF
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Hi, Gail! #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Are you new to Twitter chats? We use the Q1) / A1) format. Please remember to use the #gtchat hashtag to participate in the conversation. This will make sure that other chat participants see your tweets.
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Katy! #TAGT
    In reply to @KatyNRatliff
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Hi, Alex! #gtchat
    In reply to @AlexandraClough
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Heather Vaughn, @ut_uths, gifted advocate and lifelong learner in Austin, TX #GTChat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Hi, Kelly! All set for next week? #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP, @GiftedHF
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Lurking to learn? Please say ‘hi’ and then view a livestream from Participate Learning at https://t.co/1zR97oWQw0 #gtchat
  • teachagiftedkid Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Hi from NW Houston. I’m a GT Specialist in a public elem school with all grown up GT children of my own. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Hi, Heather! #gtchat Advisor #TAGT
    In reply to @msheathervaughn, @ut_uths
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Enjoy the chat! All the links and a summary of this chat will be posted later on our blog at https://t.co/jUsAaBcS81 #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Hi, Angie! #gtchat Advisor
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Our first question is coming up; let’s get ready to chat! Please preface your responses with A1) #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Excited to collaborate and share ideas with you today about ability grouping and how it affects self-esteem in gifted students! #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Great to 👀 you! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod, @ut_uths
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Q1) How can ability grouping affect a gifted student’s self-esteem? #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1) Ability grouping can be a boost to a gifted student’s self-esteem by reducing exposure to bullying, name calling, and feeling like they are loners. #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1) I don't know much about ability grouping so I'm guessing here... positively and negatively. They may define themselves by where they're placed rather than their personally perceived abilities. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1) It allows them to feel accepted by like-minded peers, able to compete on even playing field, comfortable showing their strengths #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1) #gtchat when it is done well, it can be effective. However interest, class culture & social skills can impact a well intended lesson
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1. When grouped together, #gifted students can push each other further than being siloed. #GTChat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A 1) At first... GT students may identify as the smartest kid in the room. Then when grouped w/peers, self-esteem may take an initial hit. After settling in, they have peers and deeper connections. @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • Dale_Chu Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @gtchatmod leading a conversation on ability grouping and self-esteem. Follow along at #gtchat!
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    These are so important points! #gtchat
    • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
      A1) It allows them to feel accepted by like-minded peers, able to compete on even playing field, comfortable showing their strengths #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1) It also may be a reality check (i.e., not always going to be the best) when surrounded by similar peers - a valuable lesson #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1) Grouping can have positive effects on self esteem by gathering students with similar abilities or interests #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Definitely have students that will define themselves based on their groups. If grouping is flexible (aka constantly changing), this is less likely #gtchat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Ability Grouping Effects on Academic Achievement and Self-Esteem: Who Performs in the Long Run as Expected (pdf) https://t.co/h4AHY7OeKw #gtchat
  • AlexandraClough Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1) it can be positive- finding a peer group, but gifted kids are such a diverse group that it could also bring up some feelings of inadequacy/ imposter syndrome #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    So important! #gtchat
    • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
      A1) It allows them to feel accepted by like-minded peers, able to compete on even playing field, comfortable showing their strengths #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    This can't be emphasized enough; too often overlooked. #gtchat
    • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
      A1) Grouping can have positive effects on self esteem by gathering students with similar abilities or interests #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1) Ability grouping aids in placing highly-abled students together where cooperative and collaborative work result in mutual respect in pride in results. Shared work load improves student’s belief in their contribution. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1) Ability grouping is SOOO valuable to these kids; such a shame that so many schools refuse to implement it #gtchat
  • Michell65652311 Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Hi, Michelle, 5th grade math and science from Girard,Oh. Working on obtaining a gifted endorsement #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Ok, so I know something. ;) About not being the "smartest one": You know what they say about if you're the smartest one in the room. #gtchat
    In reply to @Giftedkidsguide
  • dickensoffour Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1) Definitely helps them push themselves and see that others are thinking the way they do. Also offers them a positive experience in their group. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Ability Grouping – Has its Time Returned? via @gtchatmod https://t.co/4JtAg6Z9eW #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Q2) We group athletes and musicians without charges of elitism; why not high-ability students? #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Dr Karen Rogers Grouping the gifted Myths and realities https://t.co/jetPVohkyk #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A1. When the group is the same (a pair of #gifted students for instance), they can get frustrated if their personalities don’t click and they’re always together #GTChat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    #gtchat
    • Giftedkidsguide Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
      I had the same response - could be either negatively or positively. Negatively if they discover they're not the smartest one. Positively if they are challenged and get to work with others like them.
  • kennethldeal Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A1)Ability grouping can boost their self esteem by allowing them to work with other students who are performing at a similar level. #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2) I know this is intended to be an argument for grouping, but I think there is discomfort surrounding grouping by intelligence that doesn't exist for "raw talent." Perhaps it's seen as too subjective. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Michelle!
    In reply to @Michell65652311
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Apologies for being late. Justine from Auckland, New Zealand. PhD student researching g & t. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2) because there is an old belief by some that the “high” ones can help the strugglers. That doesn’t help anyone #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • OkemaForever Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    a2| Interesting, as a P, did not know they weren't grouped, perhaps we're thinking that their acceleration rates are the same which we know isn't true from evaluations and assessments. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A2) People don't view athletes or musicians in terms of elitism; giftedness still plagued by this stereotype, & this informs policy #gtchat
  • kennethldeal Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Ken Deal from GA excited to join tonight #gtchat
  • teachagiftedkid Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Welcome! Good discussion already happening #gtchat
    In reply to @cossie29
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2) It is sometimes beyond belief that society is so accepting of the benefits of ability grouping in sports and the arts; yet expresses such anathema towards academic grouping. We can be born to be anything but intellectually gifted. #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Just catching up. It's fantastic. Thanks for the welcome. :) #gtchat
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A 2) sounds horrible, but the athletes and musicians aren't "nerds." There is a negative stereotype prevalent in the country about being smart. That has to change. @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2. Pairing ability is no different than pairing students for athletics or musical endeavors...the essence is to get those similar interests and talents working off each other #GTChat
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Well said! #gtchat
    • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
      A2) People don't view athletes or musicians in terms of elitism; giftedness still plagued by this stereotype, & this informs policy #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Justine! We're just getting started.
    In reply to @cossie29
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Ken!
    In reply to @kennethldeal
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Thanks. Looking forward to learning lots. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • kennethldeal Feb 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2) I believe that we should give all students the opportunity to be challenged and to learn with others who are working at the same level, not just high ability students. Ability instead of age. #gtchat
  • AlexandraClough Feb 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2) there’s a lack of training and understanding in terms of needs and traits of gifted learners #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Gifted Students Are Unnecessarily Sacrificed (2017) https://t.co/YQ67qNstmG #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A2) Also, athletics and music are not mandatory; academics is, so many parents want classrooms on the same academic level #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    If only we could break down the barriers to this. #gtchat
    • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
      A2. Pairing ability is no different than pairing students for athletics or musical endeavors...the essence is to get those similar interests and talents working off each other #GTChat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    So true. #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2) In the court of public opinion, the gifted community must take the high road – look for ways to improve identification, define what being gifted is and isn’t; then, focus on self-care for our kids. #gtchat
  • Giftedkidsguide Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2) We accept that not everyone has athletic or musical talent, but we don't want to accept that some might have more intellectual "talent" than others. That's somehow unfair. #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Agree! I think that's the main stumbling block globally - a lack of understanding what it means to be gifted/talented. Perceptions are not accurate. #gtchat
    In reply to @AlexandraClough
  • AlexandraClough Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    The fact that high ability is measured differently in different districts doesn’t help. 2e, ELL, and CLD learners may not appear to be “high ability” based solely on testing or written output. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Agreed! It’s on my agenda 😊 #gtchat #tagt
    In reply to @cossie29
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Effects of Ability Grouping on Math Achievement of Third Grade Students (pdf) https://t.co/Tj6R10OUjp #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    I've been using the book "I'm not just Gifted" to help with the social emotional needs of the Ss in my classroom. Great book! @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
    • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
      A2) In the court of public opinion, the gifted community must take the high road – look for ways to improve identification, define what being gifted is and isn’t; then, focus on self-care for our kids. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A2) Anti-intellectualism definitely plays a role. And BTW, musicians also disparaged if not involved in pop music (e.g. band geek) #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Q3) What are some grouping strategies? #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    I think it's about education and discussion. G & T seems all too often to be the 'hidden' area of education. #gtchat
    In reply to @msheathervaughn
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Yes, yes, yes!!! (And if we accept it, we shouldn’t mention it) #gtchat #empowerGT
    • Giftedkidsguide Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
      A2) We accept that not everyone has athletic or musical talent, but we don't want to accept that some might have more intellectual "talent" than others. That's somehow unfair. #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Columbus Cheetah Myth Buster https://t.co/4rS47ouAkT #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Grouping Gifted Children via @HoagiesGifted https://t.co/VISzrwZEwk #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Good point, Odd how we judge and classify music. #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Belonging a place of sanctuary https://t.co/3j6Rr6ADNI #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3) Grouping can take many different forms and look very different in elementary school than it does at the secondary level. Grouping strategies should be tested and adapted to specific situations when necessary. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3) #gtchat interest grouping can be great when students are intentionally taught strategies of grouping and who will take what role
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • teachagiftedkid Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    I sometimes group by interest within my GT classes. One group of second graders are researching the Titanic; the other wanted to explore rainforests. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    <3 <3 <3 #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    So true! We talk about always meeting the needs of the individual student and then go 'oh no, but you can't ability group.' Hmmm. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Ability Grouping Is Not Just Tracking Anymore (pdf 2003) https://t.co/HxB52vNSYQ #gtchat
  • AlexandraClough Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3) While not perfect, cluster grouping allows for peer groups and flexibility #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3) I teach a GT class. My favorite grouping is letting them self select who they want to partner with-if they want to partner with anyone. They always seem to pick different people depending on the assignment. They know... @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    We are already half way through our chat! Thank you for sharing so many inspiring thoughts! #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    I've often done that over the years. It makes for powerful learning. #gtchat
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid
  • kennethldeal Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3) In math you can group by readiness levels and in reading by lexile. I find that when you group by interest such as choosing a project or competion, students excel beyond subject area. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A3) Grouping may be strictly tracking (secondary) in some instances when student choice dictates a specific career path. Grouping can consist of cluster grouping in inclusive classrooms and flexible grouping when called for. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Flexible grouping at work! ❤️ (not everything needs to be based on ability) #gtchat
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    UK: What are the effects of ability grouping on GCSE attainment? (pdf 2005) https://t.co/IY33KgTbqc #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    If they were older students, I may group the rainforest with the Titanic and ask them to find connections between the two. @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
    • teachagiftedkid Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
      I sometimes group by interest within my GT classes. One group of second graders are researching the Titanic; the other wanted to explore rainforests. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A3) Small group rotations in the elementary classroom can allow teachers to differentiate the curriculum and spend time with groups who need the most intervention while allowing others more independence. #gtchat
  • benjamin_leis Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I don't think you can have this conversation anymore without addressing race. Our district certainly can't #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Flexible Groupings https://t.co/N5nncERGgq #gtchat
    • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
      Flexible grouping at work! ❤️ (not everything needs to be based on ability) #gtchat
      In reply to @teachagiftedkid
  • teachagiftedkid Feb 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    I love that idea! #gtchat.
    In reply to @jodiforeman, @TXGifted
  • dickensoffour Feb 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A2) It is important to remember that high-ability students grouped together will push them to find deeper answers. It isn’t elitism; it improves their learning. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A3)Full time ability grouping, Multi-age classes, Subject ability/achievement groups, Cluster groups, Grouping students by topic or subject, Pull out/withdrawal programs, Like ability cooperative groups, Enrichment clusters Interest groups #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I love twisting assignments up. Especially if I can turn it into something Siri can't answer for them. @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid, @TXGifted, @TXGifted
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Q4) How can teachers make grouping more effective? #gtchat
  • OkemaForever Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    RT @gtchatmod: Q4) How can teachers make grouping more effective? #gtchat https://t.co/Djk8sID26V
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Which leads to our next question. Couldn't agree more. We have to do better. #gtchat
    In reply to @benjamin_leis
  • OkemaForever Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
    a4| By grouping based on performance and ability maybe, though you may perform here that may not be your ability. #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4) Ts have to teach the social skills and strategies needed to work in a team. Some Ss don't know how. And some GT Ss don't know how to follow a group-they want to lead them all. @TXGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4) Teachers should be flexible in their approach to grouping; willing to change/tweak what might not be working. They should consider that needs of all students to see what works best. #gtchat
  • teachagiftedkid Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    I twist the rules of a game they may be playing all the time. Makes for flexible thinkers! Why not a topic? #gtchat
    In reply to @jodiforeman, @TXGifted
  • ut_uths Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Want more on types of grouping and differentiation? https://t.co/AlPk0h44Qu #gtchat
    • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
      A3) Grouping may be strictly tracking (secondary) in some instances when student choice dictates a specific career path. Grouping can consist of cluster grouping in inclusive classrooms and flexible grouping when called for. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4) #gtchat when I group students, I consider interests, introverts vs extroverts, and those who would fill needed roles well & allow all voices heard
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4. By involving students in the construction and organisation of the groups as well as the leadership. Also involvement in owning and planning the learning. #gtchat
  • dickensoffour Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A3) At the high school level, they know which students will work hard. Letting them pick their groups can be an amazing eye-opener as they choose the hardest workers, not their friends. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Grouping without Fear: Effective Use of Groups in Classrooms (SlideShare) via @gifted_guru https://t.co/kFuvlEZJCz #gtchat
  • aemcburney Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Andrew McBurney, Social Studies Dean. A4) Teachers can survey students at the beginning of the semester about learning preferences and then plan groups accordingly, either ability or diversity, depending on the need. #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Have you ever seen TerraForma cards? They are great at encouraging flexible thinking! #gtchat
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid, @TXGifted
  • AnnaCalven Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    It would be fun to group all the introverts together to see what creative way they come up with in order to get their point across. Same with extroverts. #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP, @gtchatmod
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4. Backwards design! Deciding what the outcomes are can help dictate the type of grouping that is appropriate #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4) Need to destigmatize whatever "group" students are in - sadly, stereotypes of "dumb" or "nerd" groups are pervasive #gtchat
  • kennethldeal Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4) Grouping becomes more effective when we drop labels that trigger preconsieved opinions about students' ability. Groups should be based around the outcome that you are looking for. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Andrew!
    In reply to @aemcburney
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4) Effective grouping can ensure success across the intellectual spectrum; presenting challenge at the appropriate level. Teaching how to work in a group should be the first step when introducing grouping. #gtchat
  • AlexandraClough Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4) The reason for grouping should be clear as should the measure use to form groups, whether its interest or ability. There should be some flexibility and a global look at who’s not included. There should be some analysis to make sure underserved pops are represented. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4) Districts need to "buy" in to the concept - most now are worried that any grouping smacks of elitism or tracking #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    NZ: Raising the Bar with Flexible Grouping (2017) https://t.co/B0UCmbdQ38 #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    I got mine there also! I just discovered the reason for the weird half circle pattern on the card. It matches up with another (or you can have the Ss find complimentary patterns) to put 2 very different images together. #TAGT #gtchat
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid, @TXGifted
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A4. #tbt recalls the group labels of bluebirds, crows, etc...kids still know what they mean! #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • DahlD Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Running late! GT ELAR teacher from Texas. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A4) Assessment of a student’s work should reflect each individual’s contribution; traditional grading methods may not work. #gtchat
  • dickensoffour Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A4) Having designated jobs for the group members helps them know what they need to do. It also takes the stress from the students to know they will not be penalized for somebody else not pulling their weight. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Yes! Always needs to be a clear 'why'. #gtchat
    In reply to @AlexandraClough
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Diane! #TAGT
    • DahlD Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
      Running late! GT ELAR teacher from Texas. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    True! RT @msheathervaughn A4. #tbt recalls the group labels of bluebirds, crows, etc...kids still know what they mean! #gtchat
    In reply to @msheathervaughn
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Conversation with a 9 year-old yesterday - "Learning seems to be a lot about testing." I think we're doing this wrong. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Great ideas, keep sharing! Question 5 is coming up. Preface your answer with A5) #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Q5) Can ability grouping be used to promote equity in high-ability tracks? #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    AUS: Effects of Socioeconomic Status, Class Size and Ability Grouping on Science Achievement (2013) https://t.co/0iNhBmezA4 #gtchat
  • OkemaForever Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
    a5| Not sure about that. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5) States with larger % of 8th grade Ss tracked in math had larger % of high-scoring AP students four years later. Heightened AP performance held across racial subgroups—white, black & Hispanic. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Yes, but if groups change constantly...then it’s hard to apply a label #gtchat
    In reply to @kennethldeal, @giftedchlnges
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A5) #gtchat it should be 😉
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Couldn't agree more. I think we take it for granted sometimes that they understand why we're doing something. #gtchat
    In reply to @AlexandraClough
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    How “Tracking” Can Actually Help Disadvantaged Students via @JonathanLWai https://t.co/BjwWzeM3Hv #gtchat
  • kennethldeal Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5) Yes, when students are ability-grouped it can make planning for and accessing equitable instruction more likely to occur. Teacher can focus on meeting the needs of the students. #gtchat
  • vanessa8322 Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Hello! Vanessa Blanco, First Grade Teacher from Prosper ISD! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A5) Equity has a better chance to occur when the ‘human’ factor is reduced within the identification process; reliance on universal screening is better. #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Impressive. How does the gap look between those subgroups? #gtchat
    • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
      A5) States with larger % of 8th grade Ss tracked in math had larger % of high-scoring AP students four years later. Heightened AP performance held across racial subgroups—white, black & Hispanic. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Hi, Vanessa! #gtchat #TAGT
    • vanessa8322 Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
      Hello! Vanessa Blanco, First Grade Teacher from Prosper ISD! #gtchat
      In reply to @gtchatmod
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    When the learner spectrum shrinks, customization of the learning is more easily implemented #gtchat
    In reply to @kennethldeal
  • DahlD Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Hi Vanessa! I'm a neighbor in Lovejoy ISD. #gtchat
    In reply to @vanessa8322, @gtchatmod
  • aemcburney Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A5) Yes, but each group's "zone of proximal development" would necessarily be different, and the challenge would have to be tailored, with each member pulling his/her weight, to raise the abilities of the group. I might make it 2-part with diversity grouping part. #gtchat
  • teachagiftedkid Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Have to dive off now and tend to the husband who just had surgery. He is doing great but needs a bit of help. Happy chatting. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Education for Upward Mobility – Tracking in Middle School: A Surprising Ally in the Pursuit of Equity? (pdf) https://t.co/JlaGyf1Wzc #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Final question! Please preface your responses with A6) #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    All the best to dh. #gtchat #getwellsoon
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Good luck to him and to you! #gtchat
    In reply to @teachagiftedkid
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Q6) How do you prevent grouping from replacing gifted programming? #gtchat
  • DahlD Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Very insightful response. I think that is a fantastic idea. #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6) Grouping should be considered simply another tool in the classroom teacher’s toolbox; a different strategy to be used to meet students’ needs. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    2016 Brown Center Report on American Education Part 2: Tracking and Advanced Placement https://t.co/B1TkGW0DeO #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6. I think it's about having policies and procedures in place and evaluating programmes. Grouping is one tool to meet the needs of g & t learners. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6. Grouping is a strategy, not a service or a program! #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6) Grouping should be just one of the provisions on a smogasbord of options - others could be acceleration, mentoring, social/emotional care etc #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Agreed! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6) Sprite's Site Brown Brogues: Do what is most sensible https://t.co/9iF3Vx5XHs #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6) Ability grouping is one aspect of gifted services - but an essential one #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6) Grouping should be considered in addition to other strategies as part of the student’s total educational plan. Students have different strengths and often challenges which need to be met with a variety of options. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
    In Search of Reality: Unraveling Myths about Tracking, Ability Grouping & the Gifted (pdf) https://t.co/d7681KNbjD #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Agree - and grouping doesn't always work for all g & t students either. For some it would be a nightmare. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • Giftedkidsguide Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6) GT programming should not be replaced by ability grouping. How do you prevent that from happening? I have no idea. Magic wand maybe? #gtchat
  • aemcburney Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6) I guess the easiest way would be to budget time for individual activities and pursuits. Working together is important and useful, but gifted kids need to be allowed to chase their own paths. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    We are just about at the end of #gtchat today. Please share your final thoughts and/or takeaways? #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    This #gtchat will be archived at @Storify & the link will be shared via @gtchatmod later today #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6) Gifted services address intellectual/creative growth - ability grouping addresses GT's need to learn alongside like-minded peers #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    This is great - thank you for sharing. I'll share it in our Gifted and Talented Teachers FB group if that's ok? #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • msheathervaughn Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    🙌🏼 some will struggle to go beyond working solo #gtchat
    In reply to @cossie29, @gtchatmod
  • AnnaCalven Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Thank You All!! We are trying to redesign our Gifted program and you all gave me lots of information to pass on. #gtchat
  • kennethldeal Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A6) You can have high achievers who are not gifted. Ability grouping cannot be the gifted service model...gifted programs must focus on developing critical and creative thinking, leadership skills and problem solving. Offering opportunities in fine arts and STEM #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    More links & a summary of today’s chat will be posted on the #gtchat Blog at https://t.co/jUsAaBcS81 #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thanks to the ever awesome #TAGT team @TxGifted for their input and continuing support; we couldn’t do it without them! #gtchat
  • jodiforeman Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Great chat tonight! Have a wonderful weekend! #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thank you @gtchatmod Lisa and @TXGifted advisory board, sponsors, supporters and everyone for an interesting #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Agree Anna! I've got so much food for thought and gems to pass on to our teachers' facebook group. Thank you so much everyone. #gtchat
    In reply to @AnnaCalven
  • JeremyDBond Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thank you! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod, @TXGifted
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Our next chat will be on Thurs Feb 15th at 8E/7C/6M/5P US & Fri 16th Feb at 2 PM NZDT/Noon AEDT/1AM UK for “Boost: 12 Effective Ways to Lift Up Twice-Exceptional Children” with guest Kelly Hirt @MyTBP from @GifteHF Press #gtchat
  • DahlD Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Agreed. I let my Ss have Genius Hour every Friday. They love it! #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney
  • MyTBP Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    #gtchat for grouping to work well, it needs to be intentionally taught and all students must be engaged
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • giftedchlnges Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thank you @gtchatmod Such a great topic and discussion #gtchat