#espechat Archive

Tuesday April 11, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hey everyone. Welcome to tonight's #espechat. Who is joining us this evening?
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Mr. Csajko here. Hey Ross! #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Matt from So Cal! No #baseball tonight so I was able to attend #espechat again!
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Mike from NY...excited for another #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    What's up buddy. Glad you could join #ESPEchat
    In reply to @MrCsajko
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Tonight, we will be discussing "fitness testing". We will use our Q/A format and don't forget to use #espechat in your tweets!
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Unexpected nights off are great. Glad you are joining us #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • GingerAaron Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Ginger from Alabama #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    What's up Mike! Thanks for tuning in #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hey hey hey @Mr_C_PE and #espechat ! Stephanie Sandino coming at ya from Southern California. MS #physed (grades 7/8)
  • DMickBeversdorf Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Darci from Wausau...finally able to join in. Of course I will be in and out over the next hour #espechat
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Been a busy day. Happy to be here and on time! #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hey Ginger. Thanks for being here this evening #espechat
    In reply to @GingerAaron
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Let's get started with Q1 in 1 minute...#espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Great to have you Darci #espechat
    In reply to @DMickBeversdorf
  • ILESPhysEd Apr 11 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Jimmy from va beach. Hey everyone #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Thanks for tuning in Stephanie! #ESPEchat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Welcome back Darci! #espechat
    In reply to @DMickBeversdorf
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Darci! One of our original presenters for our #physedsummit! #espechat
    In reply to @DMickBeversdorf
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Glad you are back Jimmy! #espechat
    In reply to @ILESPhysEd
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Q1) What is your end goal of fitness testing as you currently administer it to your students? #espechat
  • TBrodnick Apr 11 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    NC here. #espechat
  • ObiAtkinson Apr 11 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Obi is checking in from Almost Heaven West Virginia #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Thanks for tuning in! #espechat
    In reply to @TBrodnick
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Obi! Thanks for being here tonight. #espechat
    In reply to @ObiAtkinson
  • DMickBeversdorf Apr 11 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: we have went away from testing, but it was student feedback-letting students know where they are at #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    CA is required to do fitness testing in 5/7/9th grades. End goal is to send the scores to the state... #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Matt from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada in it to win it #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Interesting...why the change Darci? #espechat
    In reply to @DMickBeversdorf
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: End goal is to have students embrace keeping track of their personal fitness data and goal set to improve health FOR LIFE #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    State law Matt? #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: To have my Ss see where their fitness level may be at; as well to give them a barometer of how they may be improving #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Certainly a worthy goal #espechat
    In reply to @MrCsajko
  • DMickBeversdorf Apr 11 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    We use it as a tool to teach fitness, but not officially as a test...we don't see our Ss often and we like it used this way better #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • ILESPhysEd Apr 11 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1 have Ss understand how to set a goal and work on their fitness plan throughout the year to reach their goal and build on it #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1) teach Ss about HRFCs, HFZs, and what those concepts mean for their lives. This way their scores will mean something to them. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Yes, we have to do fitness testing in CA. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    For secondary see if there is a response to training.... No law in Michigan #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Hey a teacher can dream, can't he/she? #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Glad your district made changes to do what you felt was best for the students #espechat
    In reply to @DMickBeversdorf
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1 It's a have-to in California, but ultimately, I would hope ss are able to track their progress starting in trimester 1! #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1) so as we refer to HRFCs throughout subsequent units, it has individualized meaning for each student #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Do you feel it accomplished this Mike or is it just a pipedream? #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak
  • TBrodnick Apr 11 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Embrace the components of health related fitness, demonstrate goal setting, look for growth, provides data to admin. #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    How do you have your MS kids track their progress? #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: To have Ss understand why and how being active is important; have Ss understand where they're & where they can aim to be #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Goal setting is a great thing to weave into fitness testing. You guys use SMART Goals Jimmy? #espechat
    In reply to @ILESPhysEd
  • giveawayvedo Apr 11 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Obi is checking in from Almost Heaven West Virginia #espechat
  • TBrodnick Apr 11 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    We use the program in our county from @FocusedFitness2 #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Got to love when policymakers dictate what is done in gyms they have never stepped foot in... #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    I think it differs on grades. When I taught ES, it was more of a way for me to identify what my kids needed additional work on. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1 ss fill out baseline data coming in from summer & 2 more times after that to see how much they progressed through the yr #espechat
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Depending on grade level I am concerned if adaptation to training can even occur??? #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A few years ago they almost did away with the yearly test. Politicians realized how much $ went to CA based on scores. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: Ss also understand how to make a fitness plan or what to do to make their lifestyles healthy & active #ESPEchat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Q2 up next in 1 minute #espechat
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Ss fill these out with their parent/guardian help! #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Now in HS, the goal is to make it more student centered/driven. By referring back to HRFCs, Ss have no choice but to embrace it. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Big scope when looking at testing from elem to hs for sure and things might need to be done diff at the diff levels #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Q2) What fitness testing protocol do you use and what specific tests do students perform? #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    I like the incorporation of the parents into the process...that is something that needs to be done more often with all we do #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino, @PhysEdApps
  • ObiAtkinson Apr 11 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    I think the most important aspect is how it relates to them and how they can use the info/scores #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Providing data is a key piece as well! Between test results and the use of good HRMs, we can tangibly show our work in action #espechat
    In reply to @TBrodnick
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2) FitnessGram for me here in central MD - push up, curl up, sit and reach, trunk lift, PACER, height and weight #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    1) can I have a copy? 2) do the parents actually spend time doing this with Ss? I'm not sure I would get a lot of buy in... #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2: What he said... #espechat
    • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:15 PM EDT
      A2) FitnessGram for me here in central MD - push up, curl up, sit and reach, trunk lift, PACER, height and weight #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Rule #1 in politics...always follow the $ #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Based on our requirements, we are a FitnessGram state. #espechat 6 categories of tests. Some individual, some choices.
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2 The FitnessGram- mile run, push-ups, curl-ups, trunk lift, shoulder stretch #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    @adventure2come gave a great session on SMART goals in PE at our NYC Zone conf this past year. Def want to incorporate moving fwd #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE, @ILESPhysEd, @adventure2come
  • PelhamOaksPE Apr 11 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2) #espechat Alabama Physical Fitness Assessment-- similar to Fitnessgram- curl ups, push ups, PACER, sit/reach
  • ILESPhysEd Apr 11 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2 FitnessGram in Va Beach. Pacer, curl-ups, push-ups, trunk lift, sit and reach #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    #evilquestion For those that are teaching Fitnessgram, why do you only do one test in a category? #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Do you have any other info you can share in regards to the Alabama Physical Fitness Assessment? #espechat
    In reply to @PelhamOaksPE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Sure! Well, they do have to get a signature on it but we can't be sure parents are there to proctor. A parent emailed me about it #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2) PACER test is the only one; I am not mandated to fitness tests #ESPEchat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Asking questions regarding form and cadence so I mean we are getting some parents to participate! #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    As of now, I just do what the "higher ups" tell me to do. Not a whole lot of reasoning currently. Looking to change that next year #ESPEchat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • ObiAtkinson Apr 11 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2 Fitnessgram in WV but teachers can chose which assessment to measure health related concept #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    I'm jealous lol #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE
  • PelhamOaksPE Apr 11 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Here's our test manual, for those interested. #espechat https://t.co/MjVU2yW0Ee
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    That's great! I think its the old cynical guy in me asking that question... #espechat God forbid that I would ask kids in PE to have HW.
    In reply to @smsandino
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2) Fitnessgram and BPFT for Ss /disabilities. Pacer, S&R, push-up, curlup, shoulder stretch, trunk lift, Ht and Wt #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Once again, Canada proves to be ahead of the curve in terms of progressive physical education #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2 state law in GA to do aerobic cap, push-ups, curl ups, sit/reach, height &a weight. #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Q3 up next in 1 minute #espechat
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2) For 6-8 they do fitnessgram, no state requirement. Advanced Secondary we use specialized sports specific tests (Yo-Yo, 40y) #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    I've noticed that providing the opportunity to test at both tests in same category helps Ss succeed. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Do you agree with the fact that it is state law to do fitness testing or do you think it should be up to ind. districts to decide? #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • PelhamOaksPE Apr 11 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    #espechat Alabama is required to test 2nd-12th grade
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Q3) How do you administer the different fitness tests you are required to give? #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Interesting... #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • DMickBeversdorf Apr 11 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    I think time would be a reason to only do one, but if it is better to do more, make the time #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Looks like you are a Fitnessgram state but Alabama provides you with the directions. #ESPEchat
    In reply to @PelhamOaksPE, @Mr_C_PE
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Fitness testing needs to be more of a choice for all Ss; main goal next yr. is to add in more fitness type activities/tests #ESPEchat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    #evilquestion answer- because the ones I mentioned are required at the district. Guess I could do others but scores aren't sent in #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2 GA tests grades 4-12 #espechat
  • PelhamOaksPE Apr 11 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Yes, for the most part. #ESPEchat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A3) Push Up - I watch 2 Ss at a time. Same with Curl Up. PACER Ss partner up, 1 runs while 1 records successful/missed laps #espechat
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A3) for 6-8 we do small groups on Pacer, partners for curl-up, teacher monitors all others to maintain consistency #espechat
  • fit2Bsmart Apr 11 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Just got home from a long day at school. Hope to catch up in the conversation #espechat
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    It's true across most of the country as far as I know; Manitoba is very into skill acquisition & stages of maturity in skills #ESPEchat
    In reply to @ObiAtkinson, @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Here is the PFT information for CA on the Fitnessgram. https://t.co/79PNTD984P #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Here is my full point of view... https://t.co/Utj9Fi4peH #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak, @bdevore7
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    I don't mind. Keeps everyone on same page and gives good data. Training was set up by the state and everyone received it. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    I actually never did the PACER until university! #espechat
    In reply to @ObiAtkinson, @Mr_C_PE
  • ILESPhysEd Apr 11 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3 pacer they have a partner to count laps then switch. The other tests I take one squad to test as the others do station work #espechat
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3 My colleague and I test all the girls from all 4 classes within a period, make ts test all the boys #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    @CADeptEd created instructional videos for each test. I show Ss to explain our tests. https://t.co/IOL1dZPPNE See bottom #espechat
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3 it's the first time I've ever seen it done this way, I've always done coed testing! #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Q3a) If you use Ss to administer tests to one another, do you feel the data is valid? #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3) pacer split kids in 2 groups and they write scores for partner. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    I know that @CooperInstitute says 4th grade but research is not certain on this issue... Below is @NSCA guidelines for youth #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3 PACER done as group with partners. Rest done via stations. #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3 contd) All others, I have easy self directed stations so I can call over kids to be assessed 4-5 at a time #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Sadly, the scores to the district should be sent the same way to the state.It will not require the district to work harder for it. #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • lfpalabama Apr 11 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    #espechat We test throughout the year and Ss make benchmarks & end goals: part of fitness culture and not dreaded 2x a year. Works for us!
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3a) I'd be more apt to it being valid if I make the pairings #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Interesting way of doing things Laura.Never thought of that #espechat
    In reply to @lfpalabama
  • fit2Bsmart Apr 11 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3 #espechat I would challenge folks who use PACER 2 have Ss cont jogging in line after miss 2, so they overload cardio till last Ss done
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Curl Ups yes... everything else NO #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • TBrodnick Apr 11 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    👍@bdevore7 for the utilization of stations! #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Why do you say no for everything else JB? #espechat
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    I most def wouldn't mind either because it can be the difference between success or fail for some ss #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    CA provides training but we see teachers all the time not follow the same protocol. It drives me nuts... #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7, @Mr_C_PE
  • DMickBeversdorf Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    This is how I administered the tests too #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3a only use Ss to do informal/formative checks during the year to check progress to student goals. Pre & post done by Ts. #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Q4 up next in 1 minute #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Do you watch each S yourself Brian or do the kids administer tests to one another? #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Awesome! That is something I am looking forward to trying to achieve! Great to hear someone else is doing something like this! #espechat
    In reply to @lfpalabama
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Nevermind, you just answered that lol with 3a #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    To be fair, how many of us can prove that our program caused gains at any grade level? #anotherevilquestion #espechat
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE, @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    to many variables.. if states and local SEAs intend this to be used summative assessments then it needs to be objective as can be #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Q4) How much time does it take for a single class to complete all of the required tests?How many times/yr is fitness testing done? #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A3a) no. Maybe it's papa bear syndrome, esp early in the year, I just trust the data when I know I'm facilitating it. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A3a I would feel a little better about this if I trained my ss all yr long on peer assessment for the PFT. I second @PEbyMrEl #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    I know my answer to this...curious to hear others #espechat
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A4) I do PACER 3x/yr; otherwise I occasionally do fitness circuits/workouts w/ THRZ lessons #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    I would agree with this Mike #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Q4: 2-3 days in 1st half, 2-3 days in 2nd half #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Formal I do it. Informal Ss do it and work with each other on form breaks. Build their evaluation skills and create #teamwork #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A4) 2/semester in secondary. 3-times/yr in elementary.. Again no requirement in MI #espechat
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A3a) I think this is big flaw on the fitness testing front, many Ts don't admin the tests with fidelity/consistency. Wastes time #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A4 It took us about a week or so to complete all of the testing on the girls side #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A4) I tend to take a class period for each test (for the most part). I practice frequently but only "test" a few times. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Wow that is quick compared to how long it take me #espechat
    In reply to @MrCsajko
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    I actually have many Ss who have asked me this week when our next PACER test is; anyone else? #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Sorry, I hope I'm not coming across as #grumpyoldman tonight. :) #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PelhamOaksPE Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Q4) Takes about a week. 2 times a year; PACER 3x for 3rd-5th #espechat
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Do you admin FITNESSGRAM to gr. 3 students? #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Depends on how many years you have data and do you look at overall data to drive parts of your instruction. Have to ID weaknesses. #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @AssessLinkPE, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    How much time do you have with your classes on average? #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4 We officially test onc a year and unofficially fill out the worksheet 3 times a year #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4) 8 full class periods to do all required tests for me. We only do them once a year...used to be twice. Thank g-d that changed #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Do you see your kids every day? #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • ILESPhysEd Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A4 it takes me a week and I do the actual tests 2x a year #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    My kids who love the exercises will ask that. The kids who don't want o move will not. #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    I have in the past bc my co-worker wanted to. Next year when we are split at all times, I will not do it with my 3rd graders #espechat
    In reply to @MrCsajko
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Ultimately I think this is why here in the U.S. Shape America reduced the large emphasis on fitness testing and to a skill focus #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    All Ts don't see fitness or fitness testing the same; can make it inconsistent which helps no one, especially our Ss #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak, @Mr_C_PE
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    We can only control what we do in our gym. #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak, @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    5 days a week, 50min classes but in reality 30-35min of activity with dressing time included #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE
  • DMickBeversdorf Apr 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Great question...another reason that we don't do it anymore...the focus should be more about what we are teaching vs scores #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Do you? #espechat
    In reply to @MrCsajko
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4 5 class meetings then makeups #espechat
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Interesting. I have a mixed bag, but mostly kids who are more apt to exercise #ESPEchat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Darci I am liking you more and more with each reply lol #espechat
    In reply to @DMickBeversdorf, @PhysEdApps
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Yes, 50min classes but when it's all said and done with dress out time 30-35min #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I do some of the tests with 2nd and 3rd grade so that they learn them and it makes testing in 4th & 5th easier. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    my middle schoolers loved it, but many were below the benchmark #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Not at all. Thinking analytically and asking "why" is necessary in everything we do #espechat
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Wow, that is awesome. I have all my classes K-8 on average 150 minutes every six days but usually have to cram in the tests #ESPEchat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    How often do you see your students each week Brian? #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    I find my younger grades 3/4's really enjoyed it; mostly my "athletes" in older grades #espechat
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    2x #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    I've struggled to get Ss to improve push up scores recently. Many claim to not be upper body strong & don't practice. #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak, @AssessLinkPE, @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Q5 coming u in 1 minute #espechat
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    I remember these days, just last year I only had my ss twice a week! #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    But like Susan @fit2Bsmart said 1-2 days a week hardly constitutes regular prolonged training #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA, @fit2Bsmart
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4) grades 3-5, id say 5-6 classes as I usually do a practice pacer day. Older grades, one day per category so 4 (1 for makeups) #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Hour long classes? #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q5) How do your students respond to fitness testing? Do you feel as though they believe it to be beneficial? Why or why not? #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Thats my life. Twice a week, 45 mins a piece #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino, @PEbyMrE
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    "the commercial challenge." Find a TV commerical on youtube (appropriate) and challenge them to stay upright for whole thing. #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @AssessLinkPE, @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Hand release push-ups from #Crossfit is key. Taken 4th graders doing 0 to hitting 10 by end of 5th. Some maturity & some what i do #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @AssessLinkPE, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • fit2Bsmart Apr 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Going to make u all jealous, on deck, with bee, sitting by fire chatted with #espechat peeps nothing better!
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    50 min #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A5) the ole mile run devastated unfit kids, Pacer really helped some kids go from 11 to 27, not benchmark, but great improvement #espechat
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Tell them to challenge someone at home while they watch tv #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @AssessLinkPE, @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Interesting! Thanks for sharing! Might try that next year. #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7, @PhysEdFreak, @AssessLinkPE, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5) Doing fun, engaging fitness games before helps them to be prepared & ready to be part of it & do their best #ESPEchat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    They won't buy in unless they find it relevant. Finding a way to do this effectively varies from one S to another #noteasy #espechat
    In reply to @ObiAtkinson
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5 Ss fought it but now understand b/c we do better teaching concepts. Ps have come to expect reports and an eye opener for some #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5 I notice it's a stressor, it's something that makes them anxious. They always ask what happens if I don't pass? #espechat
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Key for any running is progression! Build them up, not just make them run a distance they cannot do. #espechat
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE
  • CoachWilliams23 Apr 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1 improvement and I use it to teach goal setting #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • ILESPhysEd Apr 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5 some of mine don't care, but the majority want to improve their scores because of the goals they set. They want to improve #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    I've always wondered #1)What % of my parents look at the reports and #2)What % of them actually do something with the info #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Helps strong kids 2. On informal assessment allow all to continue doing hand release after two form breaks #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @AssessLinkPE, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    I agree! #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE, @bdevore7
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    And when they can possibly do it w/ a T who will model how to be active throughout life; sadly I cannot do that w/ my staff #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    I have a lot of this as well Stephanie despite saying 100x that this is not a grade and this test does not define you as a person #espechat
    • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
      A5 I notice it's a stressor, it's something that makes them anxious. They always ask what happens if I don't pass? #espechat
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Get them in with the fun & get them to understand why it is fun and beneficial for life #espechat
    In reply to @fit2Bsmart, @Mr_C_PE
  • AaronBeighle Apr 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    It is impossible and research is pretty clear on improvement. Anectdotal data is dangerous and I wonder about fidelity #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @AssessLinkPE, @bdevore7, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    We use with homeroom Ts and Conf week. Admin expects them to address it. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • CoachWilliams23 Apr 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A2 This year we only did PACER test #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Maybe I'll do a survey or something fpr parents next year a few weeks after the reports go out to get some answers #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @bdevore7
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Q6 coming up in 1 minute #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    So the parents talk to their child's homeroom teacher about their fitness report? #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5) I use real life examples of what each HRFC applies to and I think it had more meaning for them. They liked comparing w/others #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    I'm leaning more towards this next year. What sparked the change Coach? #espechat
    In reply to @CoachWilliams23
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q6) In your personal opinion,do you feel that fitness testing is appropriate in your current teaching situation? Why or why not? #espechat
  • CoachWilliams23 Apr 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A3 I have Ss monitor each other and I'm observing at the same time #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Same for some; I always encourage them to try their best because if they can try they will improve #espechat
    In reply to @smsandino
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Yes. We coach the Ts but most already know. We are available for Ps with any questions. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5 contd) I also had my staff take all the tests and promoted top scores in a S vs T wall that built joy and excitement around it #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A6) For those of you wondering about my reservations with fitness testing, here's why... https://t.co/Utj9Fi4peH #espechat
  • ILESPhysEd Apr 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A5 I tell my Ss it's more important to improve on their personal goal. Don't worry about anything else except improving you #espechat
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A6) I currently teach adv HS weight training and athletic performance... Fitness/Performance Testing A MUST...K-5 NO #espechat
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A6) It isn't - getting Ss informed about fitness & healthy lifestyles is appropriate esp. w/ low socio-economic pop @ my school #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • CoachWilliams23 Apr 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A4 we had Ss perform the PACER test 3 times. The last test took the longest because we allow them to go as long they can go #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Stark contrast to how we have to do things currently in my district. Can't let anyone besides Ss/their parents see the reports #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7
  • AaronBeighle Apr 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    We used it as an introductory activity several times a year...per S idea. #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Absolutely. When I do do a Pacer Test, I usually give a challenge to beat my all-time high #espechat
    In reply to @fit2Bsmart, @PhysEdFreak
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Matt, do you have problems with your Ss not trying their best? if so, how do you help? #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE, @smsandino
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A6 it is for all I've had. Been in Title 1 & affluent. Ps want kids to be healthy and we have to generate the interest in fitness. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • CoachWilliams23 Apr 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A5 most of my Ss love doing the PACER. Many them want to be the top class or student. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    I think Universities need to prepare #PETE for fitness testing better (reflecting on my experience) & also developing Ss. #espechat
    In reply to @AaronBeighle, @PEbyMrE
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6: I believe that some tests are vital, while others fall short. As they mature in the secondary level it becomes more relevant #espechat
  • AaronBeighle Apr 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Is it a test? #espechat
    • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
      I have a lot of this as well Stephanie despite saying 100x that this is not a grade and this test does not define you as a person #espechat
      • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
        A5 I notice it's a stressor, it's something that makes them anxious. They always ask what happens if I don't pass? #espechat
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    WOW! Student data like test scores and I can see those. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    This is true of A LOT of the content PETE candidates are taught at the college level in my opinion #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @AaronBeighle, @PEbyMrE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Early fitness testing splits our children in 2 groups Fit or Unfit... Where is the learning measured? How is that learning? #espechat
  • DMickBeversdorf Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    I agree that it is more relevant at the secondary level...personal fitness and how to improve or maintain #espechat
    In reply to @MrCsajko
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    What's bad is we still have teachers who grade based on testing scores. #espechat
    In reply to @AaronBeighle
  • CoachWilliams23 Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A6 I think we would need more PE to make a major difference #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Is there any grade-appropriate fitness tests for elementary? #espechat
    In reply to @MrCsajko
  • GingerAaron Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    I agree. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Sad, but true. Very unfortunate #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @AaronBeighle
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    I had good preparation for PETE but felt we didn't do much with fitness testing. First decade was a struggle. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE, @AaronBeighle, @PEbyMrE
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A6 if they did away with it I wouldn't miss it but if they continue to keep it there's no harm in the lessons you can teach w it #espechat
  • PEbyMrE Apr 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    I do & it's mostly silliness of laziness; I always have another S model what I look for & it is motivating for others #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdApps, @smsandino
  • fit2Bsmart Apr 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    do not feel can make an improvement impact due to Ss one day per week 45 minutes but want them to goal set & challenge themselves #espechat
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Are hand release push ups allowed in Fitnessgram testing protocols?? I'd definitely suggest that to people #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7, @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Q7 coming up in 1 minute #espechat
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Good way to put it to them! 👍🏼 #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    I test my 4th graders (not mandated) but my goal is to introduce the tests so they are better prepared for 5th (mandated). #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE, @MrCsajko
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    I'm in favor of PACER for use with HRMs since most activity during this age range Ss should be getting is aerobic in nature #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE, @MrCsajko
  • MisterMessPE Apr 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Awesome idea! I've been taking the tests, and u get an appreciation when u do it to exhaustion. Imagine kids you are not in shape? #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak, @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Definitely something to keep in mind #espechat
    In reply to @MisterMessPE, @PhysEdFreak
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Q7) What changes, if any at all, would you make to how fitness testing is required to be done in your situation? #espechat
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    No I only use in fitness portion of class time or during informal assessment. Better than in knees. #espechat
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE, @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Those are not the FitnessGram protocols but are a nice progress for Ss to work on. #espechat
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE, @bdevore7, @PhysEdFreak, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A6) I think so. I think it shows Ss that we're just as serious as other subjects and shows them what their weak areas are #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Introduction to testing protocols using PACER as fun 'challenge' is awesome, exposure to tests is part of learning how to be fit #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE, @MrCsajko
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    This is why most of my Ss want to do PACER, they can quit earlier. Still need to train/develop the ability. #espechat
    In reply to @MisterMessPE, @PhysEdFreak, @Mr_C_PE
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Hand release is harder than reg in terms of progression.For Ss that can't do reg PU, I have them do it w/ hands on a mat (incline) #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7, @AssessLinkPE, @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • MisterMessPE Apr 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I was recently was told about hand release push-ups. I wish fitness gram would adopt them. #espeChat.
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE, @bdevore7, @PhysEdApps, @PhysEdFreak, @CooperInstitute, @NSCA
  • fit2Bsmart Apr 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Great chatting night all got to go #espechat
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Cooper Inst. says yes.. But not sure if the research still supports that.... #espechat
    In reply to @PEbyMrE, @MrCsajko
  • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A7 Giving ss multiple opportunities to succeed, not just a one and done. If not this take this test or choice #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Of course the Cooper Institute says yes, they want to make money and continue to get state contracts where fitness testing is law #espechat
    In reply to @AssessLinkPE, @PEbyMrE, @MrCsajko
  • bdevore7 Apr 11 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A7 I would like to be able to train Ps to help assess but student data and cannot. Would make it go quicker. Even inputting data. #espechat
    In reply to @Mr_C_PE
  • MisterMessPE Apr 11 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Conversation is awesome. Is there a PE chat for middle & high school? #espechat
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Is there more than one ❤️symbol for this response.... #espechat
    • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:56 PM EDT
      Of course the Cooper Institute says yes, they want to make money and continue to get state contracts where fitness testing is law #espechat
      In reply to @AssessLinkPE, @PEbyMrE, @MrCsajko
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    The one-size fits all model. Choice is so important in everything else we do. Why is fitness testing not in the same boat? #espechat
    • smsandino Apr 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
      A7 Giving ss multiple opportunities to succeed, not just a one and done. If not this take this test or choice #espechat
  • hotpotatotag Apr 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    I developed an app to help me input data #espechat
    In reply to @bdevore7, @Mr_C_PE
  • PhysEdFreak Apr 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Absolutely! But still don't think it's bad to start teaching those HRFC in ES #espechat
    In reply to @DMickBeversdorf, @MrCsajko
  • PhysEdApps - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Please share!!! #espechat
    In reply to @hotpotatotag, @bdevore7, @Mr_C_PE
  • AssessLinkPE Apr 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A7) I think if districts ARE doing it, a revision to how tests are given and targets for improvement over several grades #espechat
  • Mr_C_PE Apr 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Teaching concepts in elementary is necessary, but there are so many other ways to do it without the fitness testing piece #espechat
    In reply to @PhysEdFreak, @DMickBeversdorf, @MrCsajko
  • MrCsajko - Moderator Apr 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Not an easy topic to lead. Thank you @Mr_C_PE Also, not an easy topic to speak freely. Thank you #espechat for always bringing your best!