#swarmfbchat Archive
The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.
Tuesday May 3, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome coaches to our Tuesday ritual -
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Tonight we discuss what goes into selecting your BASE defense.
rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT
As usual - introduce yourselves; follow each other; share ideas. Q1/A1 format; use
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in your tweets! Let's have a good one!
J_E_Rogers
May 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Jeff Rogers, DC Armstrong HS, Plymouth MN
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CoachEddieYoung
May 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Eddie Young, HC/OC Lajeunesse HS, Windsor, ON
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
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Neil Novak - Safeties Black Hills State University
CoachDGibson
May 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Dalmin Gibson. OLB. Dickinson State University.
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DeanMunkers
May 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Dean Munkers OL/DL Stayton HS OR.
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CoachKelleyAHS
May 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Zach Kelley. DC and OLB coach at Dallas Adamson in Texas!
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zachdavis24
May 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Zach Davis HFC Riverside High School Belle, WV
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jeff Floyd, Independence School District, just outside of KC, Missouri
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Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Zane Quesenberry, FA relocating from TN to VA, former Bearden HS DB coach, Knoxville, TN
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Good to see you guys - love seeing our "regular" on here - welcome to the newbies - don't be shy tonight!
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Romison Saint-Louis, DC, Elkhart Memorial. Excited for 2nite. In process of updating playbook
#joysofcoaching
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Q1 will be up in 2 minutes - keep saying HI.
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ColbryL
May 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Colbry Lathan Linebacker Coach Okolona High School Okolona, MS
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Cody Gardner BASE defense aficionado Free Agent non-cert Computer Tech(no I won't look at your home pc) Host of Ironchat,
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CoachTopliff
May 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT
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Chase Topliff DC/DL/OL Goodland HS Goodland KS
ejberg45
May 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT
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Eric Bergin HC Pecatonica High School, Pecatonica, IL
rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: What is your base defense? 3-4, 4-3, 3-3, 4-2-5, other? Let's see who runs what!
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Anybody want to come to STL for a S&C clinic, with side attractions of casino and or cardinals game?
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JeremyKirt
May 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Jeremy Kirt, Baytown Sterling, Baytown Tx
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CoachNahum60
May 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Mike Nahum DC/LB Coach Butler HS
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
When you see a D you run/like - follow that guy and share ideas after the session - that's why we do this.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1) 4-3 ... Cover 2
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JeremyKirt
May 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: 3-4
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CoachKelleyAHS
May 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@rmacblue
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
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3-4 base
J_E_Rogers
May 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
3-4 defense bring the heat.
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CoachDGibson
May 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1) Base 3-4 but flirt more and more with 4-2-5
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: 3-3 (4-2-5 ) Allows flexibility for players we have in the building.
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1) even front 2 high, not being truculent but that is the best way to be verbalized
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CoachPierskalla
May 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Andy Pierskalla, DC, Jefferson HS, Bloomington, MN
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Looks like a majority ODD front going on in here...we also run a 3-4 base.
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CoachNahum60
May 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1) 4-3 Base Defense. Mostly in Nickel with Spread Offenses
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CoachKelleyAHS
May 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@CoachDGibson
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ColbryL
May 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A: 3-5-3 stack
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CoachPierskalla
May 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: we run a 3-3 defense
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ejberg45
May 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
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44 slant, bring an lb every play
youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Awesome... We can get into that look with a coverage call
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https://t.co/mM07EUBRfn
ejberg45
May 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
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44 slant, bring an lb every play
Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Most of my experience has been coaching 4-3, but started learning a lot about 4-2-5 schemes this offseason & really like it.
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1) 4-3 Press Qtrs
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Trevor Williams-DBs-South Forsyth HS, GA
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JasonConley20
May 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Jason Conley DC Batavia HS (OH) base out of 33 will dabble with 425 as a change up.
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Base out of 4-3 and a 2 shell.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Great start - lots of guys in here tonight! Q2 coming up in a few.
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coachrothar
May 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
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3-3/3-4 hybrid
CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Altus High School Altus Oklahoma
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CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
We run a 3-4
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: Now that we have those BASE fronts...what is your BASE coverage?
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2) Base is 2 shell... but with MANY variations and disguising every pre-snap...
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CoachKelleyAHS
May 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Man! Then cover 2 look...
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: Now that we have those BASE fronts...what is your BASE coverage?
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bobthomas_55
May 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: run a 3-3 base defense.
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JeremyKirt
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2:2 read and cover 3
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
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A2 - Cover 2.. really fun to coach in especially as safeties coach!
CoachNahum60
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2)Quarters with pattern matching rules
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CoachDGibson
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) cover 3 but playing with more quarters concepts
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) I would prefer 2read but not against c4
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CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
We will base out of a 2 high and mix in Man and Cover 3 depending on how many guys we bring!
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CoachPierskalla
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: we love to look like cover 3 but constantly changing between all sorts of coverages
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J_E_Rogers
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) Cover 3 is our base but will play other zone coverage and some man.
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) Press Qtrs and we stay in this as much as possible. We have our Qtrs cov adjustments and our pressures - 3 deep stuff
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ejberg45
May 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
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cover 3, we see a lot of power run offenses. Have to stop the run with and worry about play action deep shots
CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: 2 high shell. Mix of some quarters, 2 read, and man. Must be multiple against the new era passing games.
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Coverage tied to formation/ Wr displacement
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coachmilan3
May 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1) We are a 4-2-5 defense. Brian Milan DC/LBs Bearden HS TN
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AJ_Woolley
May 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Checking out this
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https://t.co/D72VtIorHU
rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: Now that we have those BASE fronts...what is your BASE coverage?
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abrim70
May 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@rmacblue
Can't follow along tonight,but very interested in the sideline tech discussion. Will a transcript be avail anywhere?
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dropmechanix
May 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@abrim70
link will pop up at the end of this chat at 10pm EST.
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bobthomas_55
May 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: cover 2 is our base coverage.
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JasonConley20
May 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2- base will be a cover 3 but will add more quarters coverage. Played some wing t teams but a few switched to spread.
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coachrothar
May 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
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base cover 3 or quarters
coachmilan3
May 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: we are split coverage, players have attached/ detached rules, but a lot of quarters/ man principles.
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Mike Stauffer, DC, Patriot HS, Riverside, CA
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Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Quarters coverage, w/ corners pressed or can off w/ corner if I want to disguise Cov 2.
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 continued: Will end up being a 2 read concept though and cover 3
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1. 425
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ColbryL
May 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Our base coverage is 3
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q3 coming up in 3 minutes!
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2. Cover 3
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coachmilan3
May 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: guys that our base cover 3, how are you teaching the overhangs to play the vertical? Do you guys get 4 verts a lot?
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CoachDcek3
May 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Shaun Danicek, OC Fruitport HS, Fruitport, MI. Like to learn about different views on D to help my adjuments on O.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Q3: Let's put it all together: BASE front/Cover & WHY you play it? What do you see is the major reason you run it?
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@coachmilan3
Re route #2, or should I say plant him him in the dirt then find work.
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CoachKelleyAHS
May 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: Multiple pressures and man coverage to put pressure on 14-17 year old kids to make plays under that pressure
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3)When we first developed everything predicated on athletes abilities and what we had to stop offensively in league play
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CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
We try and put as much speed as we can on the field is why we like the 3-4! Cover 2 we try to be physical on all WR!
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cahsfbchat
May 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A1) 3-4 or 5-2 depending on how you look at it
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CoachPierskalla
May 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: most teams we play are either 34 or 43 so we like to be different and make it harder for them to game plan against us
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AJ_Woolley
May 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@coachmilan3
pardon my ignorance (pretty much strictly been an OL guy) but what does "attached/detached rules" mean?
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3)cont. Some things I considered when selecting/ refining defense at UCM …
https://t.co/8Ev2E2vMcJ
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
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A3- 3-4 cv 2 allows us to build a wall & spill ball and then constrict with corners. creates good angles for easy angle tackles
CoachDGibson
May 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3) DL's don't grown on trees in the Dakota's. Flexibilty, disguise, and you don't usually have to sub package and Pressure!
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coachrothar
May 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
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we run head ups with the Ends and nose and we protect the B gap and cover 3
DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3) Want 4-3 press Qtrs cuz we want 9 in the box to stop the run. Force QBs to throw accurate fade/go's vs man2man & pressure!
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CoachChoateMHS
May 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Run a 3-4 base because of multiple fronts with no personnel change. Pressuring QB is key. Mainly cov 4 tite, cov 3, man 2
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3) cont..Your personnel, type of offenses facing, your philosophy, has to fit with your offense/ offensive philosophy
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3) I want to get as many guys in the box, with the minimal effect of the coverage. See mostly spread,
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cahsfbchat
May 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2) We base out of man with cover 4 as a secondary install, but last year we were only man.
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@CoachChoateMHS
be simple, appear complex. Indeed sir.
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3) Even front c3. Run heavy league, play one pass heavy team. Get a ton of reps, get good at it, work on the 3 beaters alot.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: 3-4 Cover 0; we want to apply pressure everywhere; I also allows us to be very flexible vs multiple Os
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coachtanis
May 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A1) We are a 4-3 OVer front Press CB cOVer 4... Looking to prOVe you can run it w/ success at the HS level..
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3) con't lets me get a way with playing up to 7 safety types.
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CoachChoateMHS
May 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@CoachTWill22
right. Run same coverage with multiple disguises. Helps with RPOs too.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Same reason we do what we do... simply multiple ... coaching paradox...
https://t.co/8Ev2E2vMcJ
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CoachChoateMHS
May 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Run a 3-4 base because of multiple fronts with no personnel change. Pressuring QB is key. Mainly cov 4 tite, cov 3, man 2
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Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3: I like 4-2-5 & 1/4s bc I think it gives you the best opp. to defend against the run & pass game.
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bobthomas_55
May 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: like 3-3 to confuse O with multiple schemes and cover 2 base coverage cause we can't play man.
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@coachtanis
I like it 😏
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: simple, sound, adaptable. Fits our kids and coaches. Aggressive and down hill.
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coachrothar
May 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
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we like the 3 down because we have cats that can run and it allows us to come from tons of different angles.
cahsfbchat
May 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3) Stop the run, play alot of man to keep it simple, be aggressive on blitzes to limit runs and get after the QB
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CoachNahum60
May 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3) Over/Under/In.. Line stunts to compliment. 2 High Safety for disguise and manipulate run fitters. Must win your schedule
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J_E_Rogers
May 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3) 3-4 pressure want our kids to play fast and fly around. Feel it confuses OL & QB'S.
#KISS
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CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
We will disguise all coverages and show blitzes late. Which we hope will put confusion on OL and QB!
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brady__G
May 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Most important part of this is teaching DB's to play press with more FEET movement and less hands!
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coachtanis
May 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A1) We are a 4-3 OVer front Press CB cOVer 4... Looking to prOVe you can run it w/ success at the HS level..
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3) cont In 2 seasons running press Qtrs we have allowed 21% or less on balls thrown 20 yards or more. Have been great vs run 2
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coachvint
May 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I am doing a webinar for
@GlazierClinics
Thursday, May 19th at 7pm Easter time on the 3-3 stack!
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CoachChoateMHS
May 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@youcandomore1
we use wrist plans that has the blitz and assignment on it. Don't think, play fast!
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coachtanis
May 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3) I believe in it's concrete alignment rules & ability to allow kids to play fast. Allows us to coach what the O does in fall
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coachvint
May 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
I am doing a webinar for
@GlazierClinics
Thursday, May 19th at 7pm Eastern time on the 3-3 stack!
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Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3: cont. I also like that 1/4s gets the safeties involved in run support.
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3: Multiple simplicity!!!33 and 42 gives me all I need. Flexibility and more work for O but same responsibility for D
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3) cont...and we'll run C3 about 6 different ways and play C1. Complexity by simplicity.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Q4: Do you ever adjust what you run year to year based on the skill sets of your players?
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AJ_Woolley
May 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@coachmilan3
I gotcha. So TE trips would be different than just regular WR trips?
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ColbryL
May 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: We feel like our base best fits our personnel, it also allows us to bring all kinds if pressure.
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coachvint
May 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT
When I was a DC ran a multiple front D basing out of the 3-3 stack. We played an attacking, gap sound, relentless brand of D!
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coachmilan3
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3: we run a 4-2-5 withsplit cov because it allows us to be flexible to align to everything but always be in a great coverage.
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CoachCurran42
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Sorry I'm late... A3: If I could choose to run anything, I'd be 3-4 C0. I like to press and send heat, but smart heat.
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4) We were 4-3 cov 2 base 2012/2013. We switched in 2014 cuz we felt like that gave our kids the best chance to play vs any O
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CoachNahum60
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4) Absolutely must tweek based on your personnel. Can't have a Rhino covering a Cheetah pressed up
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CoachDGibson
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4) we may adjust week to week even depending on injury, depth, opponents style of play.That's were simplicity in base comes in
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CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
We have been 3-4 last 2 years w/ a little 4 man front mixed in. We will adjust our coverages based on skill set in the back end
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
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A4- diff for us obv but you must be able to tweak your defense or kids positions to put them in a spot to be successful!
mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
We played 3-4 last two years and could never get kids coordinated with slanting and pressures. Too many moving parts.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4) evolves every year based on personnel and also end of season analysis ... talk about it here...
https://t.co/0HiVpsgJbA
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CoachKelleyAHS
May 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Can anyone draw alignment and responsibilities in press quarters in the 3-4?
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CoachPierskalla
May 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: the last 2 yrs we have been very fortunate to have db's that can play man which allows more flexibility up front
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ejberg45
May 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT
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Q4) yes, depends on whether we have more big or small. Will stay cov 3, just fronts change and drops
cahsfbchat
May 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4) if we have smart kids who can run zone than we will add it, just like we will add in stunts or fronts for a goof DE or NT
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J_E_Rogers
May 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4) Feel like what we do is very flexible for different type of personnel. But also an tweak with ease if needed.
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Yes we have to. Learned a valuable lesson this year. Don't think about the play (scheme). Think about the player.
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CoachCurran42
May 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: Absolutely! In my first DC job, I had athletes, not size. I ran a NASTY 3-4! Speed at LB kills!
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4) dont change basic philosophy, but will tweak it each year... add some-take some way...
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
You guys are making me work tonight! Great chatter going on here tonight!
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: if your base/system is not adaptable to varying personnel at the HS level, you don't have the right base/system.
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4) cont we played a team that just kicked our butts up front in 2013 semis. Didn't give up big play but lost convincingly.
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coachtanis
May 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4) I think GREAT programs have an identity. We change each yr based on blitzing ability, coverage ability, LBs coming ⬇️ hill.
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bobthomas_55
May 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4: Yes we do. Kids are changing and we have to change defenses to fit them.
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Coach_Nemeth
May 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4: Adapt or get passed by. Was a 3-4 guy playing two high.We had more LB types/less db types so we moved to 4-4 under cover 3
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4) cont we had to find an answer when we faced bigger teams up front. Qtrs has been so damn good for the type of kids we have
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4) No.........yes. Base defense is set for any level of talent, more talent more "basic"
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https://t.co/jUhP9BNfEQ
coachmilan3
May 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4: We have a 3 man package, that could become base if pers dictated so. Cov wise, EVERY DB WILL LEARN PRESS MAN. No excuses
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4)Philosophy…what is your philosophy…do you know it…do your players? What is your Elevator Speech?
https://t.co/0j6OT8hork
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CoachTopliff
May 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4: 7 yrs I've been around (3 diff HC) ran 4-3 c2, 4-3 under, 10-1, and 4-4.
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4 cont: System & verbiage stay the same. Alignment can vary within the scheme. Even/odd front. Cov. Concepts etc.
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4) We tweak and adjust.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4) have your players "bought in" have they partaken of the cool aid? makes everything easier if all on same page
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
perfect...
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4 cont: System & verbiage stay the same. Alignment can vary within the scheme. Even/odd front. Cov. Concepts etc.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q5: How many fronts/covers will you run in a season? Is that based on various offensive sets?
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coachvint
May 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4 you have to fit what you do to your kids. Structure may stay the same, but how we do things may change.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT
OR...do your rules allow you to stay simple and play ball?
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@CoachTWill22
Yep, that's why we got out of 3-4. We can plug and play now.
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4) con't having a stud that kind do everything is so tempting to draw up more stuff. But that puts pressure on the other 10.
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CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Depends on the offense we are seeing that week.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Identity=Philosophy
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coachtanis
May 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4) I think GREAT programs have an identity. We change each yr based on blitzing ability, coverage ability, LBs coming ⬇️ hill.
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
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A5- diff for us again due to time with kids but we carry most coverage and can do diff fronts based off team week to week!
Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4: If a program is begin ran the right way from top to bottom I don't think you have to completely change scheme each year
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cahsfbchat
May 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5) 3 Fronts. 1-2 Base Cov's. 1 auto check to trips. and a really simple tag system for blitzing.
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brady__G
May 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@rmacblue
master your base D and have an answer to what teams do to you. There's always checks you can make, keep it simple!
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CoachCurran42
May 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT
My first few years I had 1000 fronts. Way too much. Have gotten simpler. We'll run 3/4 fronts with small variations built in.
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coachvint
May 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT
I have never been a fan of complicated. Keeps you from playing relentless football.
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coachrothar
May 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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we will run up to 5 fronts and every coverage in a year but base is cover 3 or quarters
DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5) We run one front. Goaline we go 6-2. Coverages that differ frm base is 2 read, trips checks, 2,3 & 2/3 deep zone pressure
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J_E_Rogers
May 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5) How much we run is based on what the players can execute at a fast space. Last year had guys that could handle lot.
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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A5- we keep it as simple as possible with week to week adjustments can play fast that way! Can't think too much on D just go!
Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4: cont. bc if you're doing right all players will better understand what we're trying to do each year regardless of skills
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5) Maybe 4 fronts, C3 six different ways, C1 & robber. Blitz of the week per game plan.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5) back to that paradox... simple or multiple.. always trying to find the sweet spot
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5) fronts: over, under, 11, heads. Cover 2read,4,0 split field mixes
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CoachDGibson
May 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5) our rules have allowed us to stay simple and play.You could give us 1 formation and give you a couple diff. looks out of it
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coachmilan3
May 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Yep. The struggle.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5) back to that paradox... simple or multiple.. always trying to find the sweet spot
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6: FINAL Q: What do you see as the WEAKNESS of the Defense you run? Can you hide/cover that up with movement?
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CoachNahum60
May 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5) 3 to 4 fronts with line stunts and 3 to 4 coverage options per game.. You must be able to teach your players the why..
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CoachCurran42
May 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@coachvint
live, learn, and grow. I'm always trying to learn and modify. Always trying to gain knowledge.
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coachjsam
May 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5: run about 4-5 coverages and have change ups do kids can play fast
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CoachTopliff
May 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q5: probably more than we should. See various offenses. 2 wing T, 4 spread, 1 dbl Tight T, 1 Flexbone, 1 Pro I,
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bobthomas_55
May 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5: We'll run 2 fronts and 2 coverages, possibly 3, depending on O we face that week.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5) cont... sweet spot
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
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A6- definitely have to have DUDES at corner to play the style of cv 2 we play! Not a weakness but have to have them show up!
coachrothar
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
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trap and the flats but that is what we focus on in practice and we can tweek our coverage to adjust for it.
CoachTerry12
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Smaller DL can be a weakness for us if we play just base. We move DL constantly trying to gain adv. with speedy DE!
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
exactly...
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CoachTWill22
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@youcandomore1
have to have answers to issues. But to me, APPEAR complex, be simple.
CoachTopliff
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Yes, sir. It was a breath of fresh air. Fun to coach. Feast or famine.
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@CoachTopliff
10-1 😂😂
Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5: always think it's good to carry an even & odd front package, plus a nickel & dime package, then have 3 to 4 coverages
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CoachPierskalla
May 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@J_E_Rogers
you guys were fun to watch last year, coach!
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT
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A6cont - for us must recruit kids that fit what we are looking for! Physical/fearless corners and athletic LBs
DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6) Play action is something we rep the heck out of. Aggressive safety play is awesome, but the catch is play action
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coachjsam
May 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Your weakness is in the philosophy on defense. Have to know what you're giving up and when you dictate that, u change it up
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ColbryL
May 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A5: We mainly run 2 fronts, but have been working on adding a 3rd front this spring.
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cahsfbchat
May 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 pass coverage. most of the TD's we give up are on passes based on coverage errors
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coachsaintlouis
May 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: TE to boundary messes up our rules slightly because we align based off of field and boundary.
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CODY_GARDNER
May 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6) I think the weakness is the same for all defenses, discipline and consistency. Can you do your job correctly, every play?
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coachvint
May 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I found if we can line up right, be gap sound, have a force guy to both sides, be relentless, & tackle, we would be good on D!
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coachtanis
May 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A5) we basically play 1 front(stunts can make it into many more), 2 main coverages w/ a number of subtle tweaks.
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youcandomore1
May 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6) Every defense has strengths and weaknesses... try to school our players on both for every call... disguise helps
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Z_QUEZ
May 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A5: Ideally would love to be so go at what we do that our rules allow us to go play ball against anything out of our base!
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mikestauffer
May 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6) Money question for the lurking OCs
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CoachDcek3
May 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6) weakness in D's I see is pressure being sent in the same way. Fall into a pattern of where pressure comes from.
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cahsfbchat
May 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6 Safeties bite on play action, or they dont identify/communicate there man and we leave free WR's
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rmacblue
- Moderator
May 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Coaches - you tore it up tonight! Great sharing going on. Once again, thanks for allowing me to keep this up each week!
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CoachNovak4
May 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@rmacblue
Thanks again for putting on an awesome chat! Papers are almost done for the semester might get on some others after!
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CoachTopliff
May 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6: disciplined eyes when reading keys. Do your job.
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coachjsam
May 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6) the biggest weakness to any defense is when you try to put on too much & they struggle getting lined up and playing fast
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DCcoachV
May 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@CoachNovak4
Yes #2 or EMOL. Specifically wing t and that damn waggle pass lol
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