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Welcome to Global Gifted and Talented Chat Powered by the Texas Association for the Gifted & Talented @TXGifted#TAGT ~ Thanks for joining us to chat about “Procrastination and Gifted Students” #gtchat
I’m Lisa Conrad ~ moderator, advocate for gifted children, conference presenter, blogger and parent of 2 gifted adults from Pittsburgh, PA. Please take a minute to let us know who you are and from where you’re tweeting! #gtchat
Happy to be back in the moderator’s seat and ever so grateful to @FarleyJeffrey for filling in last week. Enjoyed some time in the sun with family and friends. #gtchat
Just real quick. I speak for piano tuners everywhere. Please do not let kids abuse pianos in your schools. You may not know how long it takes to go through the (begging) process to get new ones. Thanks! #Masterychat#gtchat@antraasa (Yes, that is a Steinway)
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I’m Lisa Conrad ~ moderator, advocate for gifted children, conference presenter, blogger and parent of 2 gifted adults from Pittsburgh, PA. Please take a minute to let us know who you are and from where you’re tweeting! #gtchat
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I’m Lisa Conrad ~ moderator, advocate for gifted children, conference presenter, blogger and parent of 2 gifted adults from Pittsburgh, PA. Please take a minute to let us know who you are and from where you’re tweeting! #gtchat
A1 Procrastination can begin very early for gifted children and be due to multiple reasons; such as, distraction when have already mastered the work presented to them and find it lacks challenge. #gtchat
A1) Possible reasons for procrastination are perfectionism, trying to build in an element of challenge to a dull task, being distracted, disorganized or depressed or hiding ability #gtchat
I'm from Michigan with 3 kiddos. I have a gifted 11 year old who we are really struggling with. She gets up early before school to start her homework. She's late to school and it leads to stress, so she can't sleep at night. This is my first time really using Twitter! #gtchat
A1) Perfectionism and dwelling upon unimaginable minutiae rather than realistically mapping out the larger scope of a project and holding to a timeline. #dreamers#gtchat
A1) Possible reasons for procrastination are perfectionism, trying to build in an element of challenge to a dull task, being distracted, disorganized or depressed or hiding ability #gtchat
I'm from Michigan with 3 kiddos. I have a gifted 11 year old who we are really struggling with. She gets up early before school to start her homework. She's late to school and it leads to stress, so she can't sleep at night. This is my first time really using Twitter! #gtchat
A1 ... because they would rather do what they are passionate about than do what we require them to do. They have to be taught to play the school game, unfortunately. #gtchat
A1) Perfectionism and dwelling upon unimaginable minutiae rather than realistically mapping out the larger scope of a project and holding to a timeline. #dreamers#gtchat
A1 Gifted children are often faced with high expectations; they may procrastinate because they do not believe they can meet those expectations. Goals for these kids should be within reason and have meaning for them.
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EU: An Investigation of Self-Efficacy, Locus of Control, and Academic Procrastination as Predictors of Academic Achievement in Students Diagnosed as Gifted and Non-Gifted https://t.co/vm58MK9yEl#gtchat
A2 According to Dr Gail Post @giftedchlnges – gifted children may ‘self-sabotage’ their own work in an attempt to ‘fit in’ socially with peers. #gtchat
A2) Procrastination can involve delaying the start, becoming distracted, giving priority to other things, extreme data gathering before making a start #gtchat
A2 Procrastination can be a response to Impostor Syndrome; lacking self-confidence. It is often seen with perfectionism; delaying tasks because they may not be good enough. Being disorganized or distracted may also lead to procrastination. #gtchat
A2) daydreaming; taking on new projects or digging into ongoing passion projects; cracking jokes and goofing off; reading; video games; physical activity #gtchat
self isolation ... not knowing how to work with peers for a communal decision ... not knowing one's strengths, only weaknesses ... Overly self critical (to an extreme fault) #gtchat
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-Disorganization or spending too much time organizing.
-Disengagement or over committing.
-Work done with a lack of quality or work never getting done because bits never good enough.
A lot of what adults call procrastination is inexperience plus needing the optimum level of stress. I see this all the time with adult clients, too, but there's often more acceptance of it with adults. "It's their process." #gtchat
#gtchat A2 It can look like this ... the child who did this as a toddler, is now in your classroom. This made sense to him and now you "have added so much to his plate". Where to put everything now? If I ignore it, will it go away? Mind racing, overdrive, & break down ...
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A3) Pressure from adults that they aren't doing work to the level they are capable of can lead to distrust of authority (they feel they did the best they could with the knowledge and skills at their disposal; the adults just don't understand). #gtchat
A3 Unidentified causes of procrastination do not go away at the end of the school day and may lead to conflicts at home when parental expectations replace classroom expectations. #gtchat
A3 When gifted kids grow up, chronic procrastination can have devastating effects on their ability to complete work assignments; eventually affecting their career status. #gtchat
Linda Autrey, Director of Advanced Academics in Nacogdoches ISD in deep east TX joining a little late tonight (bc my kid has to karate, lol). #gtchat@gtchatmod
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A misunderstanding by others. I've had many teachers tell me that a student can't be gifted and question the testing because they procrastination and exhibit other 'undesirable' behaviors.
Absolutely. I see all this stuff in adults all the time. And they interpret it as a character flaw and permanent because it is all they have ever known. And then grief when they realize fundamental things they should have been taught a long time ago. #gtchat
Linda Autrey, Director of Advanced Academics in Nacogdoches ISD in deep east TX joining a little late tonight (bc my kid has to karate, lol). #gtchat@gtchatmod
A3) Many times procrastination in #GT students comes from fear- of failure, of not knowing, of ridicule. This is why teaching growth mindset is so important early on. #gtchat
So much of procrastination is actually about self-regulation, lack of information and experience, and interpersonal relationships. If motivation is an issue, it usually is a byproduct of past failures. #gtchat
A3) Many times procrastination in #GT students comes from fear- of failure, of not knowing, of ridicule. This is why teaching growth mindset is so important early on. Otherwise the consequence is lack of growth, disengagement, disconnection. #gtchat
Over thinking, high standards, stops kids / people in their tracks. #gtchat Pleases others .. not knowing how to follow / find their own interests. Must complete everything because it must be done that way. Black / white thinking ...
A4) Perfectionists may delay starting or not finish because they feel that if they cannot do it perfectly they would prefer not to do it at all #gtchat
A4 Procrastination can become a coping mechanism for dealing with perfectionism. When worried about the quality of their work, gifted children may simply not do the work. #gtchat
A4) I'm gifted so my work should be perfect & I have a perfect idea but I'm worried about executing it perfectly so I'll wait & wait & wait & when it's too late, I can either not do it & say that it WOULD have been perfect or slap it together & blame it on lack of time. #gtchat
Start looking for the missing skills as soon as we see kids not starting work when assigned. Teach self-regulation. Validate their experience of trying and failing and being frustrated. #gtchat
A4 Too, too many times adults expect perfection; especially with identified GT kids. Don’t do it. Be honest and realistic with the child. Consider ‘less than best’ as a path to learning. #gtchat
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Habits can befome lifestyles. Gifted children need the opportunity to learn how to cope and develop skills to persist and understand the difference between excellent and perfect.
Teach interpersonal relationship skills explicitly to all kids like we teach kids on the autism spectrum. Though at a cognitive level that respects their ability. So much of social skills training assumes cognitive disability as well as social weaknesses. #gtchat
#gtchat they're quick thinkers, yet may not have the vocabulary, they may not know how they process things and get to answers, they may jump around a lot. They may have fears of commitments.
Yeah. It really is. I mean, the stakes are higher, but in many ways there's a lot more slack unless you work for a psychopathic trillionaire or some such. #gtchat
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Need to trust people to help break this ... isolation prevents this ... habits are safety mechanisms .... keeps the thoughts under control? does this make sense? #gtchat
Except many of them already have the weight of the adult world on their shoulders as young kids. Here is Canada, kids as young as 3 are being taught Flanders Field and the Graves of war dead. #gtchat
The best things we have we have because a gifted person broke the mold, broke the deadlines and timelines, and dared to dream. To follow it no matter what it cost or how long it took. Thank goodness they refused to be put in a box or a corner or anything other. #gtchat
A4) Perfectionism & procrastination are like the #GT see-saw & the #gifted student rides it back/ forth, up/down. (Add to that hyper-focus once they do get rolling & one can easily see how the anxiety level of a GT student can ratchet up very high & quickly.) #gtchat
A5 Parents and teachers can work with gifted children to realistically assess their abilities, set reasonable goals, develop planning strategies and teach organizational skills. #gtchat
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Breaking down tasks into manageable steps. We often think about doing that for SPED kids and assume that gifted kids are born with organizational skills.
A5) Encourage work habits that don't exclusively focus on work. It's ok to start slowly and beneficial to give yourself breaks. #procrastination#gtchat
A5) #gtchat Clear routines have helped my students and my own daughter. Laying out calendars with pieces of tasks and checkpoints so that the larger tasks doesn’t overwhelm is also good. No surprise deadlines.
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Breaking down tasks into manageable steps. We often think about doing that for SPED kids and assume that gifted kids are born with organizational skills.
A4) they need to develop the understanding that the drive for perfection is what helps them achieve great things and that fear of not being perfect paralyzes them. Acknowledge how frustrating it is. #gtchat
Kids need to be told that learning IS uncomfortable - if it isn't, you aren't learning. Be with them in their disappointment of not ever reaching their standards. #gtchat
So many of us in general are prone to this. Feels better to imagine greatness that you don't actually produce than to do it and it's seen as mediocre. #gtchat
A4 Procrastination can become a coping mechanism for dealing with perfectionism. When worried about the quality of their work, gifted children may simply not do the work. #gtchat
A6 Procrastination in and of itself should not be cause for worry about a child’s well-being. When in response to specific situations, it is something we all experience at times. #gtchat
One of the most powerful things you can do when you struggle with the same things as your kids is be open about your challenges. Make it a joint problem and ask for their advice about what you could do. #gtchat
A6 When procrastination is combined with other factors such as changes in eating or sleeping habits, withdrawing from friends, expressing overwhelming sadness … then it may be wise to consult a professional for guidance. #gtchat
A6) #gtchat 2 things I see most often are withdrawn behaviors and distracted behaviors (going on to something else unrelated or tangential.) I have spent a lot of time gently redirecting with Socratic style questions to bring them back.
I "suffer" from both #procrastination and impostor syndrome but hadn't connected the two. Now I realize they're both about the fear of not rising to expectations. #gtchat
A2 Procrastination can be a response to Impostor Syndrome; lacking self-confidence. It is often seen with perfectionism; delaying tasks because they may not be good enough. Being disorganized or distracted may also lead to procrastination. #gtchat
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Withdraw from passions, interests and hobbies. Lack or sleep or other physical ailments. Bigger dangers could be distructive behaviors like cutting, dangers risk taking, or even suicide.
A6) when consulting professionals about procrastination, it may be good to consult the professional on behalf of your child to learn what you can do before you take a child in. The act of seeing a professional may reinforce their inner sense that they are broken. #gtchat.
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Right! Many have not felt true challenge that when they first encounter it (in high school or later) they haven't developed the skills to deal with it.
A6) The procrastination can lead to the result they were trying to prevent in the first place: Feeling like they can't do it, that they were never up to the task. #gtchat
A6) #gtchat 2 things I see most often are withdrawn behaviors and distracted behaviors (going on to something else unrelated or tangential.) I have spent a lot of time gently redirecting with Socratic style questions to bring them back.
Our next chat will be on Thursday November 1st at 8E/7C/6M/5P US and Friday 2nd November at 1 PM NZDT/11 AM AEDT/Midnight UK. Our topic: “Authentic Learning to Create 21st Century Learners”. Our guest next week will be author, Todd Stanley @the_gifted_guy#gtchat
And then they learn that they need psych support and then the cycle continues because brokenness leads to more brokenness? As in they overanalyze and go black/white thinking? #gtchat
Can procrastination lead to pleasing others .. meaning that they're subservient ... as in avoiding their own decisions because others need them? #gtchat
