#21stedchat Archive

Our mission for our 21st century chat is to create a positive 21st century learning environment for our students by sharing resources and ideas that has worked in our classrooms. Join us every Sunday from 8:00-9:00 PM (EST) on Twitter using the hashtag #21stedchat. All are welcome!

Sunday September 9, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #21stedchat Tonight we are discussing Makerspace 2.0 - Where is the Movement Now? Please introduce yourselves.
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    I am Jill from NC, Director Personalized Digital Learning and #21stedchat co-host.
  • faberbock Sep 9 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    I'm Karlie Faberbock and I am a student at Indiana University Bloomington studying elementary education. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hello! I am Brandon Kratz from Indiana University, and I am an English education major. #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    I am Dave from MI HS Science Teacher. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Nathan, former moderator for the #makered chat. This topic is right in my wheel house #21stedchat
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi! I'm Aaron Daggy and I am currently studying health education at IU. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hello I am Wesley Clifford and I'm a undergraduate at Indiana University. #21stedchat
  • GurlwitDatFro Sep 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hello my name is Autumn Spears I am a art education major attending Albright College #21stedchat
  • LFlemingEDU Sep 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    While anyone can create a makerspace, there are critical attributes that set apart makerspaces, and GREAT makerspaces. When we integrate these attributes, we create exponentially powerful learning environments. https://t.co/6VUR7NDTGZ #21stedchat #makingGREATmakerspaces
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Before we begin I would like take a minute of personal privilege. My father died last week at age 97 & 11 months. I wrote this for him 3 years ago. https://t.co/T7HaymHv4q #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Q1 Coming up #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Q1: How do you currently see the state of the Maker Movement and Makerspaces? #21stedchat
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Kim, a HS librarian in MD. interested for tonight’s topic! #21stedchat
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1. Multiple ways but we mainly offer professional learning experiences so educators understand how they can incorporate them into their classroom/school. #21stedchat
  • JHollandbeck Sep 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Hello, I'm Jay Hollandbeck, a Spanish education major at Indiana University #21stedchat
  • LFlemingEDU Sep 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: We are beginning to suffer from makerspace inspiration fatigue. I address this in my new blog series https://t.co/ny8rZRHhuu #21stedchat
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: I see the stare of the Maker Movement and Makerspaces slowly evolving compared to education practices inside some school facilities. I'm hoping in the future as educators we can adopt these spaces more into the classroom #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1 we are at a crossroads. #makered is about the freedom of discovery. And the sharing of what is learned. School are building #makerspaces and then placing constrains in what can be done. Teacher are doing PBL and calling it Maker. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1 I’m ready for K-12 making to be less about trends and kits and more about the students/ issues in the room. I know this is already the case in so many places #21stedchat
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: I love the idea of bringing this type of ingenuity to kids of younger ages to make them more comfortable around tech as we progress rapidly in technology. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    I completely agree! The way the education system has been working currently has demonstrated a massive reduction in progress when it comes to creating makerspaces. #21stedchat
    In reply to @LFlemingEDU
  • jnmev Sep 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    #21stEdChat Love the topic tonight. Wondering if my understanding of Makerspace is correct and I how I can incorporate it in the classroom.
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Why do you think we are, when so many still don't understand the makermovement? #21stedchat
    In reply to @LFlemingEDU
  • faberbock Sep 9 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    I think the maker movement would be helpful with getting children used to the idea of having technology in their lives since it is becoming more and more prevalent in education. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1 there is not enough writing and recording being done in the #makerspace we need students to understand the why in the choices they maker and what opportunities come from those choices #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    I see maker "making" it's way into schools. However it is at a slower rate then what would be expected and it isn't handled in the right manner in a lot of schools. I do see maker benefiting students though and helping them discover what they like. #21stedchat
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    In our situation, it has been almost the opposite. Students learning knitting, making their own inks, wood craft, etc. #21stedchat
    In reply to @faberbock
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    I agree! I believe students K-12 need to have this at their disposal so we can progress much faster in this world of technology. #21stedchat
    In reply to @BrandonKratz5
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A1 #makerspace has become one of the dreaded buzzwords where a school will take any size space and convert it. Spaces need to be bigger to invite more that one class to create. Silos still exist if one one class creates. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Q2 Coming up #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Q2: How do you define "making"? #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    But the in classroom maker boxes are becomeing too focused. Needs to be much more variety in material and tools for students to choose from #21stedchat
    In reply to @Edu_Thompson
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Making is making. No need to define it. :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    That is a great point. With all the new technology coming into education we could use this experience to benefit the students. #21stedchat
    In reply to @faberbock
  • faberbock Sep 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: I would define "making" as being able to create something of your own. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    #winning #makered #21stedchat
    • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
      In our situation, it has been almost the opposite. Students learning knitting, making their own inks, wood craft, etc. #21stedchat
      In reply to @faberbock
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Some are saying in needs to involve "technology". Yes no? #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher
  • LFlemingEDU Sep 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: How I define a makerspace. https://t.co/6VUR7NDTGZ #21stedchat
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Yes, or have student planning be part of identifying the tools and materials they need. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @Edu_Thompson
  • JHollandbeck Sep 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    R1: In the schools where the movement has been developed I find that there's been drastic improvement in student effort and participation, I am eager to see more makerspaces in larger, more urban school districts #21stedchat
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2: My definition of "making" is students putting in their own original ideas into concepts that have already been completed and improving them while also finding out more about themselves as people in a larger society. #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    I disagree with that completely. Some of the best making I do with students involves duct tape and cardboard. :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2 making is the combining of two more more knowledge streams using the best tools and materials available to create a new construct that represents the new vision #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Wasn't this the shop and home ec of the past? Have we lost something removing those classes? #21stedchat
    In reply to @LFlemingEDU
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2 making also needs to include the sharing of what is learned. We need to start having students write tutorials and keep project logs for other to improve upon #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    I like your response since it involves the thought that students can make things by not using technology or even physical material, but with the power that they hold within themselves! #21stedchat
    In reply to @faberbock
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2. A Makerspace is a learning environment where everyone can discover, collaborate, and create things. It is not defined as a certain space but rather a mindset of design thinking, exploration, experimentation and tinkering. #21stedchat
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2: Making is when someone thinks up an idea and tries to make it real and even if they fail in making it the first time they learn and go back to the drawing board to make it even better. #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Sad to me is folks want to equate "making" to something high tech. The old shop, home-ec, and vocational classes were great makerspaces. #21stedchat
  • JHollandbeck Sep 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    R2: I would say that "making" is the creation of something original, that has value to either the student or the learning process in general #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Making is making and sharing what is learned. Making is about giving back to the community #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2 I’m gonna go with Jay Silver and say it’s “not just about what we make but the meaning we make” #notanexactquote. Kids have to see the point. #21stedchat
  • cybraryman1 Sep 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Our Makerspace page https://t.co/2JZvQFsQyY… Reach out to these Makerspace mavens to enhance your space: @nathan_stevens @DianaLRendina @geekyteach @thenerdyteacher @nmhs_lms @NikkiDRobertson @ellyssa @jaymesdec @LindseyOwn @mtechman & many others #21stedchat
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2: Making is using creativity to come to meet a certain objective. However< I believe we should start the shift more towards tech as students get older. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    My only push back would be on the "original" piece. Sometimes making is taking something already created and repurposing, redesigning or innovating in a new way. #21stedchat
    In reply to @JHollandbeck
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Can't ever go wrong with duck tape. #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    I agree with you. I basically said the same thing, but your mentioning of them learning about themselves is a good addition to it. #21stedchat
    In reply to @BrandonKratz5
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    YES! I keep begging our shop teacher to do after school classes for teachers. I’d love more knowledge and hands on experience here. #21stedchat
    • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
      Wasn't this the shop and home ec of the past? Have we lost something removing those classes? #21stedchat
      In reply to @LFlemingEDU
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    The problem with this is that most people assume the any innovation has to include technology. Sometime improves come in the form of simple materials. We push tech way too often and it is harming the student’s design process #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @stumpteacher
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    I actually think we often "screw" up the maker stuff when we try to define it or scale it. #21stedchat
    In reply to @LFlemingEDU, @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Thanks Jerry #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Does it always have to be? Can it just be for the same of creating? #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    If a project doesn't need duct tape, it is not worth doing. :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Or learning processes by copying something already designed to see where improvement is needed and skill building before going out on their own. #21stedchat
    In reply to @WesleyC04626095, @BrandonKratz5
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Q3 up next #21stedchat
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @stumpteacher
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    We need students to write what they learn. Technical writing is a skill that most students will need in the future. They also need to understand the why something didn’t work. To create just create is entry level making #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Agreed. I'm just making the point that creating for sake of creating does have value as well. It's a spectrum. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    For me, everything should be bigger to include more students. I want more ideas #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @LFlemingEDU, @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Q3: Shop & home ec classes used to be required in schools - then were cut - is the maker movement a delayed response to losing these and are T's sufficiently trained in the processes required to help student be successful? #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    My philosophy is to present it to all but realize it will likely connect with few. I focus on the few and build from there. Not all kids will be into all maker activities I offer. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @LFlemingEDU, @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    I view making 51% reading and writing and 49% actually building. Students need to be able to research and report on what they do #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    I am so glad Josh is here in the chat #21stedchat
    • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
      Agreed. I'm just making the point that creating for sake of creating does have value as well. It's a spectrum. #21stedchat
      In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    @aasl National School Library Standards are broken into domains of Think, Create, Share, Grow- it makes sharing and growing through it a natural response to making #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @stumpteacher, @dprindle, @aasl
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    I am more simplistic in my approach. I expose kids to opportunities to make and run with it. I try to make it equitable in terms of making it open and accessible to all kids. But realize it won't work for all. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    We use those as well as the @iste standards. But to be honest, the standards are largely used to justify the work to admin, not always guide the work of teachers. :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @kapjohnson, @nathan_stevens, @dprindle, @aasl, @iste
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3 not really. Teachers have always been doing some form of Maker in there classrooms. Before the teacher was the decision maker and now the process and descisions have been passed down to the students. #empower #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3: I don't believe that the maker movement is quite a delayed response in a manner, instead I believe the timing is great for reviving these programs. I think teachers are sufficiently trained in these processes that are required to help students succeed. #21stedchat
  • LFlemingEDU Sep 9 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4: Every makerspace should be unique to their school community, from the vision to the execution. It is impossible to determine an accurate and appropriate answer to this question, because of that. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    But how are we getting students to share. It needs to be outside of the walls of the classroom or library. Part of being career and college ready is helping students develop their portfolios #21stedchat
    In reply to @kapjohnson, @stumpteacher, @dprindle, @aasl
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3: I think that we recognized that Shop class was not for everyone and that the maker movement made it more abstract so that students didn't have to be reduced to just one idea. I can not say that teachers are not equipped because it varies from school to school. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    This is a great response! I found it difficult to use the characters given to summarize my belief, but you did it perfectly within this tweet! I like how you mentioned that students now have this decision. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • faberbock Sep 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3: I think that the maker movement is very similar to the shop and home ec classes that used to be required. I think the maker movement just sort of takes the idea to the next level. #21stedchat
  • njkraai Sep 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Cardboard, duct tape, and hot glue have been my cornerstones and the kids love it! #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    I agree, the maker movement provides a lot more avenues for students. #21stedchat
    In reply to @faberbock
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    In my creative/maker framework, the first part or step is to allow students to explore. Knowing what a tool will do or not do is just as important as creating something #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • JHollandbeck Sep 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    R3: I would say that both Shop and Home-ec had specific skill sets that they tried to teach; as I see it, modern 'makerplaces' have a much stronger emphasis on independent learning, rather, that modern students learn skills independent of each other #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Q4 Coming up next #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    For sure. When I get something new, I just toss it to the kids to figure out. Then we run from there and see how we can connect to content or curriculum. Explore is always step one. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A3: I feel that maker has always been in the classroom in some shape or form. This is due to many teachers being crafty themselves and implement that in their classes. I feel that teachers are trained, but I feel some times that training is lost to some teachers. #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Makes sense, right? How many of us remember building a rocket ship or a fort out of a refrigerator box? :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @njkraai
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q4: I don't see much "making" in HS if does happen it is in the visual arts classes, our CAD/CNC class and electric car. We are so focused on the tests...no time for making in others. So is making more K-6. Discuss #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q4B: Is standardized testing killing making at the HS level? #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    When they figure it out, they should be making a video for younger students to be able to watch and learn #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A4. No way, the problem is many HS teachers don't have an open mind about how makerspaces can work in their classroom. I do see a lot of awesome makerspaces in HS media centers. #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    I have tried that but our kids have been so indoctrinated for bubble sheets it stuns them to try and think about real problem solving. #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @nathan_stevens
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4: I don't believe so. As a secondary education major we've been taught ideas that help illustrate how HS students can create in order to help others learn whether it's board games towards movies created for classes. #21stedchat
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4. @LisGurthie and @LisaNewburger have an amazing one at their school and it is a MS. #21stedchat
  • LFlemingEDU Sep 9 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4: I see lots happening in high schools...in libraries and across content areas. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A6 time and pace of curriculum is part of the dilemma. In the high school setting, content areas need to combine on activities to give students more time to create. My son’s high school has a project room with devices for students to create during lunch #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4 as a HS librarian I’ve had some success integrating making into the curriculum- ie making creative writing tangible, Novel Engineering, #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Yes and no. I had kids wire up and make this awesome arcade controller. I took it apart at the end of the year. I wanted next year's kids to go through the process themselves and build it themselves. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Only those who let it. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4: I think Making K-6 is more emphasized because at least when I was in HS it was very focused on just testing well. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I do some at the end of the year after testing and our LM specialist was cut long ago. #21stedchat
    In reply to @LFlemingEDU
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4B: Standardized test have killed some form of making within the HS level; however, teachers have found a way to work around this and incorporate making into their lesson plans for students who are creative (or not creative) and enjoy making things. #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    That is the beauty of my new gig in the library. I am free to dive into the problems and the making. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @nathan_stevens
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    But wouldn’t it be awesome for them to have a record what they created. Give it some sort of digital permanency #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • faberbock Sep 9 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A4 I think that in high schools it's a lot harder to get students excited to "make" since at that point a lot of students are focused on getting good grades for colleges. Testing is very important to high school students in my opinion so I believe that making is lost.#21stedchat
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    That's very strange. When it came to my high school career we focused a whole bunch on creating projects like board games for English class to creating our own society in sociology. #21stedchat
    In reply to @DaggyAaron, @dprindle
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4B: yes many teachers in my belief focus on getting good AP scores and living by the book to push kids into college. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4: As a recent high school grad I can say as much as I don't enjoy the testing I don't believe it's the issue. I see it more as teachers just don't really know how to implement it into their class. #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    For sure. We video and photograph a lot of our projects for sure. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4b I think that is a lazy excuse for not thinking creatively on how to get students making #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • turnerhj Sep 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Thanks again to @MsJachymiak for sharing her story as a new teacher with me. Check out this post as she helps leaders understand how new teachers can be best supported. #ecet2 #wiscchat #edchatri #21stedchat #TLAP #leadlap #cpchat https://t.co/zenbjTGbvc
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    You don't have a librarian? #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @LFlemingEDU
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    That works for me. Gives you an opportunity to talk about how to capture images that really speak about the build. #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • JHollandbeck Sep 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    R4: I do not think that making should exclusively be geared for younger students, but I imagine the emphasis on HS test taking is for students to move on to college, and most colleges, sadly, have yet to really consider creativity as grounds for admission #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    That was one of the point I was trying to make earlier. Many don't know how and to admin it is not a prioritiy. #21stedchat
    In reply to @WesleyC04626095
  • kapjohnson Sep 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Some might argue that this isn’t making- more like taking notes and reorganizing them. There is very little risk in these activities, no new learning #21stedchat
    In reply to @BrandonKratz5, @DaggyAaron, @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    That does make sense. We can get lost in the test scores and that can distract us from trying to making things fun or enjoying these fun things. #21stedchat
    In reply to @faberbock
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    I didn't get it until I took a class @TuftsDevTech in early childhood tech. When I worked with the Ss at their ECE summer camp (2nd gr), the lightbulb went #21stedchat
    In reply to @Edu_Thompson, @TuftsDevTech
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    #21stedchat
    In reply to @mrterborg, @LFlemingEDU
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Hold on everyone... Tweetdeck exploded on me. #21stedchat
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    There should be some pleasure in the act of creating just because one can. #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    I agree, our society had to be somewhat influenced from our readings #21stedchat
    In reply to @kapjohnson, @BrandonKratz5, @dprindle
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    I'm sorry. Your students don't know what they're missing ..#21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @LFlemingEDU
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q5 I think is coming up. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Sorry Twitter @stumpteacher and my makered Hot takes are Bogging you down #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q5: How can we help move the maker movement forward? #21stedchat
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Doesn't have to be original. Many great products weren't. #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @JHollandbeck
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    It isn't a priority for people and that's the sad thing because it can be beneficial to students at the high school level. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    All were eliminated and replaced with para's. #21stedchat
    In reply to @mrterborg, @LFlemingEDU
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A5. Help others see the importance and the why. For administrators/central office, remove any potential barriers and also work on the mindsets of staff. #21stedchat
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    No. Wait. Yes. Isn't everything tech? :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @stumpteacher
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    That is such a travesty. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @mrterborg, @LFlemingEDU
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A5 free your students to create. Combine content areas to give students more time. Think as a students, not as a teacher. Be a co-learner in the process #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Yes, but one can't have everything .. can one? #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @Edu_Thompson
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A5: As current/future educators I believe it is important that we encourage students within any subject level to be creative and make their own personal way to be creative. #21stedchat
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A5: I think the problem is that some people want measurable results and some schools like mine do not adopt the movement. I think we need to create more awareness. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    So they can check out a book or two .... ...... #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @LFlemingEDU
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5 be a model for others to see a process. When I am in a classroom, teachers and admins come I. And watch. They are amazed about how little direction I give for an experience #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • faberbock Sep 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5: I think that we can help move the maker movement forward by showing teachers how to incorporate "making" into the classroom. It would be nice to try and get away from so much focus on testing.#21stedchat
  • LFlemingEDU Sep 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5: By moving away from it being about the ‘stuff’ and to understanding that creating a unique learning environment, rooted in philosophy, data and best-practices, is what it is really about. https://t.co/mj3ZLxdMLY #21stedchat
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5: By giving teachers the training to bring it into their class. Many teachers would love to do it, but don't know where to start and by teaching the teachers to do this the students could truly benefit. #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    #21stedchat
    In reply to @mrterborg, @dprindle
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    I like how you stated that we need to think as students and not teachers, because at times I believe we forget about this ideal as we move through further schooling and into new careers. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Aren't "those kids" already comfortable? :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @DaggyAaron, @dprindle
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    I agree but part of the job is to get these students to pass standardized testing which involves simple studying. #21stedchat
    In reply to @BrandonKratz5
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    You don’t need everything. Just as many options as possible to allow students to become better judges of what works #21stedchat
    In reply to @mrterborg, @Edu_Thompson
  • njkraai Sep 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Some of my best memories. #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Q6: What are your takeaways tonight. Do we need part two of this convo in the coming weeks? #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Not all students are on the college path which means they need a portfolio to apply for jobs #21stedchat
    In reply to @BrandonKratz5, @dprindle
  • JHollandbeck Sep 9 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    R5: Aside from using opportunities like this to communicate with our peers? I would say the movement is furthered mostly at the individual level. While there will always be a curriculum to adhere to, it's on us to find new ways to implement 'making' into our classes #21stedchat
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    You said it best. We need to let everyone be creative and have some fun because it is their education. #21stedchat
    In reply to @BrandonKratz5
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    I still remember when my boys were little and we got new patio furniture. They had a small "apartment complex" in our living room for about a month. They loved it. #21stedchat
    In reply to @njkraai
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A6 I need to be in more conversations with @stumpteacher #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @stumpteacher
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I would not say so considering not everyone has access to technology like city schools do #21stedchat
    In reply to @mrterborg, @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A6: This is a great conversation and it wouldn't be a bad idea to continue on the topic again. #21stedchat
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A6: I feel like tonight there were dozens of takeaways from this conversation and some great discussion over how to improve the maker environment of classrooms. I think it would be beneficial to have a part two of this conversation next week as well! #21stedchat
  • LisGurthie Sep 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A5 We in ed need to listen the expertise of local makers at all stages - not just to train us & mentors Ss, but to tell us what to buy and make a real “shop” or studio atmosphere - not too “nice” - I learned that from Mr Gray at @MakerspaceCLT thx to @LibLilC13 #21stedchat
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    TY for joining #21stedchat. Join us next week as we discuss Mindfulness in the Classroom with @dprindle & I. Sunday 8:00PM EST.
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    You need bigger goals. :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • njkraai Sep 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    We need to promote those opportunities for students to be imaginative and have to problem-solve, not only with digital technologies, but also with our literal bare hands. #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Good point. But remember some city schools are still on 2009 macs, 2 - 3 PCs / room and a tech lab if they're lucky. #21stedchat
    In reply to @DaggyAaron, @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    You are a big deal my friend #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @dprindle
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A6: I think people value creativity in different forms but that we all want the same objective to succeed. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    For sure. I also believe in doing things just for fun. Building community and culture can be done through making so naturally. #21stedchat
    In reply to @njkraai
  • faberbock Sep 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A6: I learned some interesting things to take into consideration as I study to become a teacher. Creativity is important to incorporate into the classroom setting as the maker movement becomes more and more prevalent within schools. A 2nd part would be great! #21stedchat
  • BrandonKratz5 Sep 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Tonight's conversation went extremely well and I agree completely that it would be great to progress this topic into next week! #21stedchat
    In reply to @WesleyC04626095
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    It's not just creativity. It's team building, communication, and more. Students learn to work together instead of next to each other. #21stedchat
    In reply to @faberbock
  • DaggyAaron Sep 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    My HS did not have one mac in it nor a tech lab. #21stedchat
    In reply to @mrterborg, @dprindle
  • JHollandbeck Sep 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    R6: I would love to have a part two to this convo, it would reinforce my takeaway that the 'maker movement' is best served when we discuss how to improve our classrooms together #21stedchat
  • stumpteacher Sep 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Thanks #21stedchat for the convo tonight. Off to watch the @ChicagoBears and get my hopes up for the upcoming season. :)
  • nathan_stevens Sep 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    It is a common occurrence #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Not surprised. Though that lack of surprise scares me. #21stedchat
    In reply to @DaggyAaron, @dprindle
  • WesleyC04626095 Sep 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    That is a great way to put it. It is also a lot to take in for consideration. #21stedchat
    In reply to @faberbock
  • dprindle - Moderator Sep 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for another great #21stedchat We will continue this in the next few weeks. Have a great week.
  • mrterborg Sep 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    #21stedchat
    In reply to @stumpteacher, @ChicagoBears