#swarmfbchat Archive

The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.

Tuesday December 12, 2017
9:00 PM EST

  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome Coaches to the Tuesday night #swarmfbchat Tonight we are talking all things DL. Tag a buddy and get involved. All questions come from fellow coaches. Let the Intros begin!
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  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:01 PM EST
    We use the Q1/A1 format - make sure to use the hashtag #swarmfbchat in all responses for max viewing. Follow a new friend tonight as well.
  • CoachDobbinsSE Dec 12 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Erik Dobbins HC Wichita Southeast; Wichita, KS #swarmfbchat
  • rebelzone77 Dec 12 @ 9:01 PM EST
  • Joebruneel Dec 12 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Joe Bruneel DC/OLB's Albert Einstein High School Kensington, MD #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Brad Shea - DL @ Dallas Skyline #swarmfbchat
  • PigSkinCoach Dec 12 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Greg Wallis tuttle, ok #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_ZC Dec 12 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Zach Carlton - DC/DB's - Palmer Ridge HS, CO #swarmfbchat
  • RoyCash66 Dec 12 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Roy Cash. DT’s. Palo Duro HS. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Dec 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Cody French DC Elkhart Central #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Dec 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Bobby Curran Special Teams Coordinator Outside Linebackers Coach Gilman School Baltimore, MD #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Dec 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Ryan McDonald Free Agent Indiana #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
    First Q of the night coming up in 3 minutes. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Ben Mocahbee D Line coach at West Clermont High School #swarmfbchat
  • MrCoachAustin Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Joe Austin Co-DC/DL Williamsport High in Williamsport MD #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Phillip Blacha DC/LBs #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKelleyAHS Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Zach Kelley. DC and safeties Coach in Dallas,TX. WH Adamson HS #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Vin DiGaetano Def Assistant/ILB @Wagner_Football #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue, @Wagner_Football
  • coach_harvey18 Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Adam Harvey, DBs/ST at Cibolo Steele HS(TX) First timer at #swarmfbchat.
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Cody Case, D-line Coach at East Hall High School in Gainesville, GA #swarmfbchat
  • seoleufootball Dec 12 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Jack Liegler, Youth Coach, OCYF #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBFri29 Dec 12 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Brian Frierson. DC/Secondary. Jack Britt HS, Fayetteville NC #swarmfbchat
  • BrandonSethi Dec 12 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Brandon Sethi DL / STC Mason HS (OH) #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1: Coach wants to know: BEST drill for hands on OL - from stance to end of play. #swarmfbchat Adds that kids have trouble taking drill from practice to game.
  • Dsell75 Dec 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
    David Sell Asst. HC/Co-DC Palo Duro High School, Amarillo, TX. DEs #swarmfbchat
  • coachstone605 Dec 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Ryan Stone, DL/Strength and Conditioning, Jack Britt High School, Fayetteville NC #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTew Dec 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Jeramie Tew. Safeties coach. Sapulpa Oklahoma #swarmfbchat
  • _CoachHendricks Dec 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Caleb Hendricks DC/LB @ Inman High School #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Dec 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Shock, extend, find, defeat, form tackle. DM me if you want more info on this drill. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Can't wait for the dline talk and learn a thing or two. And who wouldn't want this guy as your 1 tech. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
    We progress from a 2 pt to a 3 pt drilling hands on target then add in key reads to work block recognition #swarmfbchat
  • Joebruneel Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: I'll have my kids sit on their knees and shins to the ground and practice thumbs up (and slightly bent out) strikes to another teammates, also on his shins. Works on rolling the hips, and delivering a hard strike to the chest with proper hand placement. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachKelleyAHS Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Q1: Two OL, 1 DL and make them read the blocks. Has to start with hands on OL then using your eyes. Have one down block, down block and pull, outside step. Two birds with one stone plus they can apply to games #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Jeff Lutt DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend HS, KS #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Anthony Palladino. HC. Case high school. Swansea, MA #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Can't wait for the dline talk and learn a thing or two. And who wouldn't want this guy as your 1 tech. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: I think regardless of the drill for hand placement, you've got to emphasize the footwork. We talk about 6-inch power/read steps. Too many kids stop their feet on contact. #swarmfbchat
  • RoyCash66 Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Every drill you do should emphasize hands. 6-point hands, 6-point hands and hips, 4-point hands/hips/feet, double teams, pass rush, tackling drills. Hands should be in everything #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 start out of a six point stance to just work on solid hand placement and then go through the progression with hips and feet. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: First off, I'd hope that my guys wouldn't have their hands on the OL at the end of the play. But an EDD I did was we had a big, red ball & 2 players were on either side and had to punch it back & forth. If they were too slow, the ball would hit their knees. #swarmfbchat
  • walkertiger05 Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: It’s all about breaking it down in segments and then bringing it together. Have them watch themselves in practice by taping it and they can watch themselves later. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: any type of 6 point progression. Important and overlooked is making sure all the coaching points and angles marry up with scheme #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: 6pt explosion emphasizing hip movement & hand placement 2 start off with, then going 2 3pt drive 4 5yds + working the feet, then 3pt explosion w/ block rec, then 3pt explosion + block rec + block defeat #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBFri29 Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1. Cnt remember the name of the drill, but emphasis is on firing off the ball and making initial contact on OL. Key teaching points are Hat, Hands, Feet. Strike with your Helmet/facemask not the crown. Get hands on the inside of OL to control and drive feet #swarmfbchat
  • mrfluet Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Shane Fluet OL /OC Pinecrest High Southern Pines, Nc, have to know um to beat um #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1:put your hands where your eyes can see em! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • BrandonSethi Dec 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 we spent time on hand fighting but emphasized in every drill. Even starting with a move when running the bags. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 cont: And not necessarily a drill, but everything we did from the first day of Spring was bringing hands whether it be on a man, on dummies, or on air. Rep it until it becomes muscle memory. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: after punch.. clear hands and work to disengage. To often high school d lineman want to peak and look. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: easiest way I could do it. Would be helpful if I had a video demonstrating it #swarmfbchat
  • Dsell75 Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1: Start on their knees, hand strike on partners chest. Progress to hands and hips, get the hip roll and arm extension. We stand up and shade to the right, work on during our of stances, two quick steps and two hand strike. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I got away from emphasizing 6in step. I now teach short powerful step & make sure it’s up & down afap. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • MrCoachAustin Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A:1 definitely agree. Ran into this problem early last year. Hammered the importance of the read steps along with our stim-response progression and were much more successful #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1: I think regardless of the drill for hand placement, you've got to emphasize the footwork. We talk about 6-inch power/read steps. Too many kids stop their feet on contact. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Q2: Penetrate to heel depth of OL or gap control? Which is more effective/has greater benefit? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Me too. I preached first step contact, 2nd step disengage. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachBradShea, @rmacblue
  • Coach__French Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: tough question to answer without knowing personnel. Both can be effective. Depends on scheme and skill-set #swarmfbchat
  • seoleufootball Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1 low two point stance facing each other, working violent hands that stay inside and using hips to create the space to step into their gap. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 Gap Control build a wall of defenders offense ain’t got no where to run #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_ZC Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: Depended on the team we were facing that week. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKelleyAHS Dec 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Honestly, you HAVE to have both. If you have “gap control” but go 10 yards up field you didn’t do your job. No deeper than the heel line is ALWAYS coached up #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: I have always been a believer in movement to heel depth - we call that Level 1. DL on the move are much harder to block IMO. I think if you teach reading OL, they have to be moving and know where to look. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDobbinsSE Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: Penetrate to heal depth then control the gap; cannot control the gap if you don’t have any penetration #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: depends on scheme or call. Also on Strength/size/speed of DL. 3 man front base 2 gap. 4 man you can 2 gap inside or drive to OL heel. Smaller speed guys it’s all gap control and beating your guy there. Went through all this season. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 depends on personnel, I like the quick 1 tech that can penetrate and disrupt a lot especially going against pulling guards but the big gap sound 1 tech is awesome against zone schemes too. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Larry Johnson DL coach @ Ohio St has a great drill tape that I got when he was @ Penn St that has good bgo stuff #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @BrandonSethi, @rmacblue
  • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: with the diversity of the zone schemes more inclined to work gap control to keep reads and run throughs clean and clear #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachTew Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: always believed you get to heel of OL while in your gap. Can’t run up the field. Create too many seams and cutback lanes #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: Keep the LBs clean. #swarmfbchat
  • teshda Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Agreed you have to be able to do both, depending on what type of offense you’re going against. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • coach_harvey18 Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: Always get deep enough to force the ball carrier’s feet to stop or force him to the sideline. There are no points scored on the sidelines. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: Both. Where else would you expect them to hold their gap? Our job was gap, spill, and screen. If the back didn't run through your gap, you did your job. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Sounds like a LB coach 😂😂😂 #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Dec 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: want to penetrate and disrupt #swarmfbchat
  • coach_comptonDC Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 depends on our guys. We let our smaller and quicker guys off the chain. We like to create as much turmoil as possible. Goal being to spill #swarmfbchat
  • walkertiger05 Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: Get to where the OL heels started and control the gap. Depends on if you are slanting or not as well. DE’s on 3rd down get to QB. LB’s will make the DE’s correct. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Hahaha my LBs are just faster DL. They know to be the violator not the victim. (Probably not appropriate) but it works. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachMocahbee
  • seoleufootball Dec 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Need to get some extension and penetration but it means nothing if you at the wrong heels. Gap control first. Everyone needs to be responsible for their gap. #swarmfbchat
  • coachdavis86 Dec 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat 6 point progression from the ground. First step — punch with hands. 2 step punch. Last is hit and drive. But it all starts with a great stance
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • seoleufootball Dec 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2 Need to get some extension and penetration but it means nothing if you at the wrong heels. Gap control first. Everyone needs to be responsible for their gap. #swarmfbchat
  • _CoachHendricks Dec 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2 It depends on what you got. We dealt with a pretty undersized DL, so we tried to use quickness up front to force the big guys across to move. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Q3: Coach would like to know how you teach angle/slant tech to your DL regardless of scheme. #swarmfbchat What are your coaching points? Key words/phrases?
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2: IMO, you can do both. Emphasize bgo explosion to heel line & hands to the OL, but you have to be able to react to the block by the OL & work lateral afap. Thus why bgo explosion & hands are vital. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Coach__French Dec 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: get your second step down fast, grab the towel, rip up and threw, merge to make the play, violent, fast, physical, low #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDobbinsSE Dec 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: Indy time and pursuit drills work pretty well #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
      Q3: Coach would like to know how you teach angle/slant tech to your DL regardless of scheme. #swarmfbchat What are your coaching points? Key words/phrases?
  • CoachKelleyAHS Dec 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: yeah. I think every defense has a slant to give some change of pace to the offense. Unless you for roughly 3-4 MONSTERS up front that can dominate lol. When I coached a 3 man front it was every play we did something so it was taught everyday #swarmfbchat
  • Dsell75 Dec 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A2: I think of the d-line controls their gap and gets to the heel line to force the ballcarrier to bounce or stop their feet then they have done their job. I think they can still be aggressive as long as they do not run up field. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 read on the run, visual key is they OL your slanting towards, pressure key is the OL your slanting away from. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSimard Dec 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Coach Simard Late to the Party OLine Coach - Learning! #swarmfbchat
  • coach_comptonDC Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3. If it's a called stunt we use a knife tech. OL faces cut under OL blocks down we are thru the hip. We'll combo this with a backer or run as a solo "slant" #swarmfbchat
  • RoyCash66 Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: when we slant, I have my guys aim at the hip of the man on the outside of the gap they are attacking. This ensures they are getting across the man in front of they’d face and that they give themselves room to climb. #swarmfbchat
  • mrfluet Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3 our 3-4 slant and angle is a power step then rip same arm same leg towards hip of guard on angle side #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: get thin to get thick. Grab grass. Clear hips. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachdavis86 Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat Q2. Depends on scheme but we want to always create a new line of scrimmage 1 yard in tha backfield
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: With slanting, you've got to talk vision keys - where are your eyes...then hand placement and footwork. What is the ultimate goal? Penetrate or gap control? Always give the player a finish line. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: Going back to Q1, I wanted my guys to get hands on the guard while the first step is toward the assigned gap. Then the preferred move off and squaring up on 2nd step. We felt that if we didn't get our hands on the man in front of us, we'd get washed too easy. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: all about eyes and hands when slanting. Get eyes to near shoulder of man slanting to. If it disappears then run with. You get numbers at you, then fight to disengage because play is at you. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: all defense “hips past hips sink ships!” #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat
    • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
      A3: (1/2) tighten alignment if needed, lateral step with the foot in the direction your slanting + pushing off with other foot (think electric slide step), dip rip grabbing grass, & rip up. Key would be hip of near OL ur slanting 2.
      In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachTew Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 I like to have a lateral step and the work towards OL that I’m slanting to and reading his block. Getting hands on working to control my gap #swarmfbchat
  • coachdavis86 Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat Q3 key words (flat step. Rip. Redirect. ) flat lateral step with foot of direction you are going. The rip allows you to bring your body and second step along with arm movement. Then gain ground and redirect to the ball
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • walkertiger05 Dec 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: “rip grass” less surface area to o-line. You still need to be going upfield as you slant. Slant to the gap and eyes to that O lineman. Keep hands on him and then eyes to the backs. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: man over PS hip. rocket power. Get skinny fast. If you lose you’re fired. #swarmfbchat
  • coachjlord Dec 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
    We use a hip approach as a point of reference regardless of LOS approach or penetration style works well ... get to directional hip regardless of shade or head up alignment eliminatesthinking #swarmfbchat “slant to the hip” also focus on 2nd step as our reaction step to block
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
      Q3: Coach would like to know how you teach angle/slant tech to your DL regardless of scheme. #swarmfbchat What are your coaching points? Key words/phrases?
  • CoachSimard Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A1: Starts w/Stance, then feet. Good 3pt stance firing low - FAST. Start on sled w/small aiming pt - firing hands in to strike pt remaining LOW. Low equals leverage. Progress to 1-on-1s punch->grab clothe -> Shed #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat
    • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A3: (2/2) OL hip goes away = get flat in hip pocket eyes in gap / OL hip comes at you = engage & redirect where you came from flat
      In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3 cont: Made sure their eyes were inside, looking for first threat (on any reads) then sit in their gap. Our gaps were our lifeblood, no matter the offensive scheme. #swarmfbchat
  • Dsell75 Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: dip and rip. Grab grass and go. Just a few I’ve used in the past. Get to heel line, find the ball and make the tackle. #swarmfbchat
  • coachjlord Dec 12 @ 9:36 PM EST
    We are a hip to hip defeat team very easy and basic to visualize... my hip to you and maintain #swarmfbchat
    • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
      A3: all defense “hips past hips sink ships!” #swarmfbchat
      In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachjlord Dec 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Jacob Lord DC at Jeff Davis HS Georgia @JDfbRecruits #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSimard Dec 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A2: As an oline coach, Dlineman who maintain position in gap present more problems than those who penetrate - even heal depth - we can trap em. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q4: When facing a pulling OL - coach wants to know if you follow the puller behind LOS or attempt at running lateral down the LOS? How do you coach it? #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Dec 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: Gotta know your players. If you can get on that pullers hip it is taking you to the ball. If you can't, fight down the line. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: We always try to get in "hip pocket" of OL pulling and chase from heel depth down LOS - takes you to the ball. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDobbinsSE Dec 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: Follow him right on his tail down the LOS cause more than likely that guy will lead you to the 🧀 #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:38 PM EST
      Q4: When facing a pulling OL - coach wants to know if you follow the puller behind LOS or attempt at running lateral down the LOS? How do you coach it? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Dec 12 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4 hands should take you there if you shoot your hands correctly should take you right down the line #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: to prevent us from running up field. We crashed down LOS. Took up every cut back lane. And forced runner to his assignment or bounce. More experience guys could chase, youth crashed down LOS. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Dec 12 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: big on crushing the back block. Don’t let it lead you upfield far. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • teshda Dec 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4. If the qb is a threat to run we’re staying in our gap.... if qb is not a threat to run we’re in the hip pocket of the guard... we do half line during Indy everyday if we face a team who pulls a lot! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Dsell75 Dec 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: hip pocket of the puller and chase down the los to the ball. #swarmfbchat
  • _CoachHendricks Dec 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Pullers take you to the play. #swarmfbchat
  • Joebruneel Dec 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: I tell them follow the puller lateral to the LOS. Once again, no more than a yard upfield. If the force player can set the edge, you might get yourself a TFL because the BC should be turned back to you and you won't create a vertical seam by going upfield. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachMocahbee Dec 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4 We work to read the guy replacing the puller. If his step is too flat we will work down the line and cross face. If he steps too far foward we will follow the puller behind LOS. If its a "perfect" step you have to sink down and squeeze the gap. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKelleyAHS Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: running down LOS. That is where the back will end up running. If I follow the guard and he takes a bad/false step, or gets too deep. DL can’t make the play anymore #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: hip pocket and go! #swarmfbchat
  • coachjlord Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    have to consider the offensive split, alignment, play tendency and OL pulling if a Gaurd & center back blocking for short trap with tight split hard 2 chase cross face - pulling T or TE with RB backside seal we feel we can chase through ball then redirect but SPLITS #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:38 PM EST
      Q4: When facing a pulling OL - coach wants to know if you follow the puller behind LOS or attempt at running lateral down the LOS? How do you coach it? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: Let him go. Our job was our gap. We knew that if a guard was pulling, we had to prepare for a down block from the OT or an out block/cut from the center. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTew Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4 I like to chase OL down the LOS without running up the field. Beat the scoop block and/or try not to get pushed up field by OL blocking back #swarmfbchat
  • MrCoachAustin Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: It’s dependent upon our personnel. If we have a stud who can beat the down block we let him chase. But for the most part, I teach my guys to anticipate the down block and fight across or almost wrong arm and pursue. Especially against pin/pull OZ concepts #swarmfbchat
  • walkertiger05 Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4:Your man pulls you follow. If you can follow his butt then do so. If not then understand someone is going block down and you better be ready to rip. No excuse to not follow a puller. Explode of ball every down #swarmfbchat
  • RoyCash66 Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Depends. I’ve had kids who could cross a back blockers face with ease and kids who could hip pocket really well due to speed. Depends on the guy doing it. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_ZC Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4) Depends who is pulling and if they're reading you. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: teach it 2 ways for DTs. If the dwn block OL Head is in front of you = engage & put OL back in gap & crossface & fill 1st open gap (mainly for NT) if dwn block OL Head is behind you = turn the corner & get in hip of pulling OL flat dwn the line #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachdavis86 Dec 12 @ 9:44 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat q4: simple ... quick trap fight pressure- work across face if you have the athlete to do so. Vs puller grab cloth and look to chase down play.
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachSimard Dec 12 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: Follow definitely. If pulling a G, tackles 'typically' have hard time pull-checking for vacating guard. A quick D Lineman can all kinds of having shooting that vacated gap to mesh. I've had this type of dude pull ball carriers down from behind #swarmfbchat
  • coachjlord Dec 12 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Also LB play is a big part also in a 2 LB scheme with an even front a cross face can leave a cut back and have you 2 guys in 1 gap 3 LB set allows you to have cutback guy ... as we all know it’s one big puzzle with a bunch of pieces #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:38 PM EST
      Q4: When facing a pulling OL - coach wants to know if you follow the puller behind LOS or attempt at running lateral down the LOS? How do you coach it? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Yeah our ILBs know to not cross C until 100% know where the ball is. No easy yards. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @coachjlord
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Q5: Final one: coach wants to know how you teach to split a double team? Do any coaches teach the DE to wrong-shoulder and get vertical? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Dec 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Feel pressure get hips in hole rip and disengage #swarmfbchat
  • RoyCash66 Dec 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Attack half a man on G. When the 2nd pressure gets to you, drop uncovered knee to the ground and shoulder between the hips. If they stay, make a pile. If one releases, pop up and squeeze to ball. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Dec 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: pick a man. You vs him. Sit down on the other guy. Attack and post shoulder, rip down, punch and step through at same time. SUPER DUPER EASY. SIDE NOTE:nothing more annoying then offensive guys celebrating double team blocks... It's 2 on 1 #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Dec 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: have to defeat the base block first then throw hips into the down block. Once again key for us is teach defeat hand early. Never seen a good double team when the first guy can’t engage #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5: (1/2) depends on the kid. Big strong kid engage primary pressure, flip hips into secondary pressure when he FEELS it with eyes in gap (like boxing out) knees bent feet moving, & rip off make play if RB attacking gap #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Coach__French Dec 12 @ 9:51 PM EST
    NOW THAT WAS FUN #swarmfbchat everybody loves defense!
  • coachdavis86 Dec 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat Q5: so the DE must be in a 5 or 7 tech. If that’s the case the OLB is in blocked and he is making the play. But we teach all DL to fight through the guy you are alighted on and sit on the knee of the guy who is doubling. Finish with rip
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachjlord Dec 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
    We teach seat bench/grab cloth/ roll when we can’t split easy way to cause pile and we feel fight to grass is hard to do when you feel yourself “beat” lost leverage offense under pads already other wise split it attack post hip get skinny then hip to hip square #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
      Q5: Final one: coach wants to know how you teach to split a double team? Do any coaches teach the DE to wrong-shoulder and get vertical? #swarmfbchat
  • Joebruneel Dec 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5: In a head up technique (which we are in 95%), I keep it simple and tell my guy to still attack the man in front, and then fight to pressure, in this case, the second blocker. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • mrfluet Dec 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5 hands on and attack one, swing or drive hips through second and fight pressure with pressure if beat make a pile #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Dec 12 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5: also don’t really like to teach the pull down and pile method first. If your getting killed then I get it. But we would never teach another position to give up. Principal thing for us #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5: Be The Violator. Not the victim. Get skinny. Don’t stand up or life will be cruel #swarmfbchat
  • CoachNoSpace Dec 12 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5: Get hands on inside man like any other play, then lean into pressure until you beat first man, get hands on second man and beat his block. If they're in their gap, I consider a fight, if not a split, a win. If getting driven, sit on the barstool & make a pile. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBradShea Dec 12 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: (2/2) smaller kid. Engage primary pressure, when he feels secondary pressure dip & rip through crotch of OL (think single leg) while pulling primary pressure down with you. Create a pile & don’t get pushed back #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Hopefully, our coaches who posed questions got some helpful info - lots of good sharing tonight. Very productive staff meeting :) Keep answering and asking questions - make sure to follow each other! #swarmfbchat
  • RoyCash66 Dec 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Great chat. Got some good stuff to try during spring ball. To all of y’all. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBlacha Dec 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Always a pleasure gentlemen!! Feel free to talk ball anytime!! #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Once again, #swarmfbchat appreciates you and your willingness to help others - it's always a pleasure to bring this weekly chat to you guys!
  • seoleufootball Dec 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Missed the last two questions putting a kid to bed but looks like a lot of good stuff to read back through #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:54 PM EST
      Hopefully, our coaches who posed questions got some helpful info - lots of good sharing tonight. Very productive staff meeting :) Keep answering and asking questions - make sure to follow each other! #swarmfbchat