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ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:01 PM EST

@lindsayhether is designing investigations considered 'creativity'? #ASEChat

Science_HOD Feb 15 @ 3:01 PM EST

@lindsayhether no.not enough anyway. #asechat certainly not in schools who are RI ot worse

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:03 PM EST

@lindsayhether look what is on #asechat tonight @Rick_Hall

Science_HOD Feb 15 @ 3:05 PM EST

@lindsayhether I think the problem is that creativity needs defining so it can be measured. Sad but elephant in the room. #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:06 PM EST

@ViciaScience I think so - depends on how structured the investigations are...#ASEChat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:06 PM EST

BTW #ASEChat peeps, I am new to twitter so apols if a bit slow...

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:08 PM EST

@lindsayhether several creative aspects to planning - linking ideas together, evaluating different approaches, deciding data needed #ASEChat

ShiftParadigm Feb 15 @ 3:08 PM EST

The choice, PUSH STUDENTS INTO HOLES THEY WILL NEVER FIT, OR CREATE HOLES THAT FIT THEM. Read more > https://t.co/7Q6C2qyKjf #asechat

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:08 PM EST

What exactly do people think creativity in science is? At a @BritSciAssoc event recently everyone was raving about STEAM #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:08 PM EST

@lindsayhether Looks fine from here! #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:08 PM EST

We don’t realise that science is a creative endeavour , bogged down by the *stuff* EUREKA! #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:09 PM EST

@lindsayhether What are your ideas about creativity and science? #ASEChat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:09 PM EST

@ViciaScience Yes, and balance needed between teacher guidance and openness for pupils #ASEChat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:09 PM EST

@lindsayhether in that case welcome to Twitter! #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 15 @ 3:09 PM EST

@JulieBrown01 creativity is discovery, experimentation, scientists think outside the box and leaps in understanding are made #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:10 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 Topical. Gravitational waves was quite creative 100 years ago! #ASEChat

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:10 PM EST

But I think of creativity in science more as pupils finding creative solutions to a problem using science skills and knowledge #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:11 PM EST

@JulieBrown01 @BritSciAssoc you have don’t have to engage with ‘creatives’ like Art & design to nurture creativity inscience #asechat #STEAM

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:12 PM EST

@doc_kristy @JulieBrown01 And pupils thinking outside the box. Need to make space for this to happen in crowded curriculum #ASEChat

doc_kristy Feb 15 @ 3:13 PM EST

@ViciaScience @JulieBrown01 indeed we do #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:13 PM EST

"Creativity is a phenomenon whereby something new and somehow valuable is formed” wikipedia #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:13 PM EST

@ViciaScience I think science is inherently creative and we need to help kids engage with that side of the subject #ASEChat

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:13 PM EST

#asechat When Harry Kroto noticed a C60 spectroscopy spike he thought of a model he'd made with his children which gave bucky ball idea

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:13 PM EST

By the way #asechat have I mentioned my son is one of the scientists who worked on LIGO and discovered gravitational waves? Creative enough?

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:13 PM EST

@ViciaScience but that SK is important foundation - shoulders of giants and all that #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:14 PM EST

@Science_HOD @JulieBrown01 @BritSciAssoc yes , putting the ARTs into STEM! #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:14 PM EST

#ASEChat https://t.co/FZDQ21tVPw

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:12 PM EST

@Science_HOD with 'little c' kids generating ideas that are novel to them - investigations an e.g. @ViciaScience

doc_kristy Feb 15 @ 3:14 PM EST

@damianainscough just throwing in there that he's an old boy of my school and I've met him quite a few times #chemistrygroupie #asechat

Stuff4TeacherUK Feb 15 @ 3:15 PM EST

Good evening #asechat, this sounds a complex area for what is very left side of brain subject.

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:15 PM EST

Wow thats great Julia, they must be feeling pretty chuffed #gravitationalwaves #asechat https://t.co/WoZWLVGhfL

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:13 PM EST

By the way #asechat have I mentioned my son is one of the scientists who worked on LIGO and discovered gravitational waves? Creative enough?

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:15 PM EST

#asechat The degree of creativity in science seems to be inversely proportional to school year.

Science_HOD Feb 15 @ 3:15 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @JulieBrown01 @BritSciAssoc haha seriously?! Bloody hell. Bacc aftermath? #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 15 @ 3:15 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @Science_HOD @JulieBrown01 I don't mind it, I work with a drama teacher to enhance literacy teaching through chem #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:16 PM EST

@doc_kristy think @damianainscough can probably beat you there on the groupie stakes! #asechat ;)

doc_kristy Feb 15 @ 3:16 PM EST

@damianainscough sadly true :( #asechat although I use my 6th formers to do creative research for me, they're cheap!

doc_kristy Feb 15 @ 3:17 PM EST

@Science_HOD @NeedhamL56 @JulieBrown01 assuming it needs to be coordinated I guess, mine is much more fluid but with defined aims #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:18 PM EST

Similarities/differences between creativity in science and in arts? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:18 PM EST

If we can do any linking it has to be a good thing. It is hard though when depts are inward looking #asechat https://t.co/UIGd0oR40U

Science_HOD Feb 15 @ 3:16 PM EST

@doc_kristy @NeedhamL56 @JulieBrown01 even so. Just thought it was hard enough to coordinate the STEM before

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:19 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat yes... Credit to @LaserLabsGames Birm Uni who also have fun apps explaining #gravitationalwaves and #black holes

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:20 PM EST

#asechat I worked with @Rick_Hall on an @IgniteFutures project years ago. Brilliant projects with artists we made beautiful DNA models

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:20 PM EST

@Science_HOD @doc_kristy @JulieBrown01 Tee Hee! #asechat

helpmeimamedic Feb 15 @ 3:20 PM EST

There are many routes to study #medicine. Find more info on each: https://t.co/ysBmgQQsJZ #futuredoctor #asechat https://t.co/997FLnvtIF

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:20 PM EST

@Science_HOD @NeedhamL56 @doc_kristy @JulieBrown01 any experience /advice in overcoming departmental introspection #asechat

Stuff4TeacherUK Feb 15 @ 3:20 PM EST

@lindsayhether from a pupil point of view is if 'safer' to be creative in arts where it is expected? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:21 PM EST

@lindsayhether a difference between creative 'solutions' drawing on knowledge and creative 'expression' drawing on emotions? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:21 PM EST

@margaretflem @Rick_Hall @IgniteFutures and Ive seen fab skull reconstructions, artist in residence working with evolution #asechat

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:22 PM EST

@Rick_Hall @IgniteFutures #asechat looking for something similar to this @edutopia site

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:23 PM EST

@ViciaScience @lindsayhether yes! #asechat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:23 PM EST

STARS project offer a link between art and sci with resources provided b4 speaker visit #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:23 PM EST

@ljrn42 @Science_HOD @doc_kristy @JulieBrown01 Force ‘em! Become a STEM (STEAM) school, everyone has to develop links in T & L #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:24 PM EST

@ljrn42 @Science_HOD @doc_kristy @JulieBrown01 Identify area of overlap between depts, e.g. colour / art, sound / music? #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:24 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat are we talking teaching creatively OR letting children be creative OR teaching children to be creative....?

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:24 PM EST

@ljrn42 do you have a link Liz? #asechat

Science_HOD Feb 15 @ 3:24 PM EST

@ljrn42 @NeedhamL56 @doc_kristy @JulieBrown01 need to get staff to see the point against their workload #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:25 PM EST

@ViciaScience Because science is about problem-solving and arts are aesthetic? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:25 PM EST

Great questions Steve, think Im a bit mixed up myself! #asechat think we should take each of these questions 1 by 1 https://t.co/MQDmqsN5ez

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:24 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat are we talking teaching creatively OR letting children be creative OR teaching children to be creative....?

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:25 PM EST

@lindsayhether oo! good question. Lots, hard to articulate in 140 characters. #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:26 PM EST

@ljrn42 As in Michael Rosen poetry with a science angle STARS? #ASEChat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:26 PM EST

@ViciaScience @Science_HOD @doc_kristy @JulieBrown01 am running sci week this year and that is already one of my focus areas #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:26 PM EST

@Stuff4TeacherUK So we don't expect kids to be creative in science? If true, should we? How could we do that? #ASEChat

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:26 PM EST

#asechat one of my other sons(lol)spent a week in hols in yr8 linking drama and science. quality of sci investigations was amazing #STEAM

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:26 PM EST

#asechat Just pondering if there's a distinction between creativity with (alongside), in, and from science....

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:26 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 We are aiming towards teaching children to be creative in science lessons #ASEChat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:27 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @stevethedoc1 different at pri and sec? At secondary only the *right* answer will do? Not that creative. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:27 PM EST

@lindsayhether @Stuff4TeacherUK Give them the tools to be free? #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:27 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat always issue, what is one person's creativity is another one's art or another one's science or ......

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:27 PM EST

@lindsayhether I think of technology as problem solving, and some aspects of science theorising as aesthetic! #ASEChat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:27 PM EST

I do enjoy the 'separate these mixtures, off you go' lesson. #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:28 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @ViciaScience In our research we are looking at/distinguishing between all 3! #ASEchat

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:28 PM EST

@lindsayhether @Stuff4TeacherUK Allow pursuit of their own questions? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:29 PM EST

@hrogerson as I said earlier we are bogged down by the *stuff* if you are only chasing right answers not working like a scientist #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:29 PM EST

@JulieBrown01 I used to have a great lesson on 'interviewing' scientists to show the development of atomic theory. #asechat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:29 PM EST

@ViciaScience no it's #astrobiology Space TARgets Science #asechat

Newmanphysics Feb 15 @ 3:29 PM EST

#asechat Thought my students were quite creative to design this experiment https://t.co/5dB1lMTFOq

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:29 PM EST

@lindsayhether @ViciaScience #asechat need to else everyone talks about different ones at same time 'very creative!!!'

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:29 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 nope, but there are a lot of people who don't think they should be before university... #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:30 PM EST

@hrogerson @JulieBrown01 used to? #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:30 PM EST

@damianainscough @Stuff4TeacherUK Some would argue they need knowledge before can generate questions #ASEChat. Balance?

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:30 PM EST

#asechat Creativity in science (e.g. devising an innovative technique) v diff from creativ alongside (e.g. writing a rap explaining osmosis)

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:30 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @JulieBrown01 a while since I had to teach it... not sure where it is saved. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:32 PM EST

@lindsayhether @Stuff4TeacherUK my point before about giving tools #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:32 PM EST

@ljrn42 Oh good - something else to look up when we finish. Do you have a link #ASEChat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:32 PM EST

@JulieBrown01 Sounds amazing - why did the link help improve quality of investigations do you think? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:33 PM EST

@hrogerson why would you want to go to uni if all you had done is memorised other people’s work, provide freedom to use K&U #asechat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:34 PM EST

@hrogerson @NeedhamL56 @JulieBrown01 have used published script for story of #eyam and #plague b4 #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:34 PM EST

@lindsayhether @damianainscough @Stuff4TeacherUK Not convinced by this argument. Children ask questions before they can talk. #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:34 PM EST

Some ideas for promoting creativity in chemistry https://t.co/OJGhMZoD0B @STEMLearningUK #asechat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:35 PM EST

@ViciaScience will find it at 9.#asechat moving fast tonight

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:35 PM EST

Make Bird snappers for Great British Bird watch https://t.co/kITFB8T7Ub #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:36 PM EST

@damianainscough Lots of opps for creative writing, planning, problem solving, presenting, measuring etc in science #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:37 PM EST

an oldie but goodie Creative & critical thinking in science https://t.co/Nc1zBAsl9C #asechat If you are stuck for what were on about

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:39 PM EST

@JulieBrown01 @ljrn42 @Science_HOD @doc_kristy link please Julia #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:39 PM EST

@ViciaScience @lindsayhether @damianainscough @Stuff4TeacherUK agree, and there is value in asking the 'wrong' questions too. #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:39 PM EST

@ViciaScience @lindsayhether @damianainscough @Stuff4TeacherUK often I just have to fill the gap not in 'what', but 'how'? #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:39 PM EST

Emotions and problem-solving together #ASEChat #STEAM https://t.co/CoORnryEsq

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:35 PM EST

@lindsayhether because they were so inspired to find solutions, and proud to share them. it was all set around living on a desert island

helpmeimamedic Feb 15 @ 3:40 PM EST

How can sch govs achieve best practice in #science #maths ed at schools? https://t.co/LtcOWApZqq via @WTeducation & @SchoolGovNet #asechat

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:40 PM EST

@lindsayhether @stevethedoc1 @ViciaScience @MillgateHouseEd #asechat will find the link!

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:40 PM EST

@ljrn42 @NeedhamL56 @JulieBrown01 that's always a good one to do! #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:41 PM EST

@hrogerson #asechat sorry No 'wrong' questions just questions waiting for someone to love them

damianainscough Feb 15 @ 3:42 PM EST

@lindsayhether @Stuff4TeacherUK Tool of enquiry. How to sample, research, test well, #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:43 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 Ha! Y6 investigating brightness vs shadow size was not loved by them when they realised their problems. #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:43 PM EST

If teaching for scientific creativity about enabling kids to ask scientifically relevant questions, how can/should teachers do it? #ASEChat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:44 PM EST

Then, how to teachers help kids answer their questions? 'Scientific method'? #ASEChat

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:44 PM EST

Should we find a 'creative' way to assess practical work and give credit for original thinking / problem solving? #ASEChat #bancompetencies

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:44 PM EST

@ljrn42 @hrogerson @NeedhamL56 @JulieBrown01 #ASEchat try this new resource James Phipps drama https://t.co/iQYwrPfZtK

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:44 PM EST

I think it is creativity where you are asking students to link lots of their ideas into a bit picture to understand a concept. #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:44 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 but I do know what you mean. *I* loved it.... I let them do it because of the effect on them. #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:45 PM EST

@lindsayhether #asechat create opportunities for lovable questions

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:45 PM EST

@lindsayhether by modelling creativity as a teacher rather than look for tried and tested? #ASEChat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:45 PM EST

#ASEchat today on creativity in science. Do teachers need to 'model' creativity?

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:45 PM EST

How about @BritSciAssoc @CRESTAwards 'CREativity in Science and Technology' pupils really get the chance to be creative #asechat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:45 PM EST

https://t.co/SpV4hMBg5T is link for STARS project #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:45 PM EST

@ViciaScience yes, but I don't think we can... teacher want box ticking. See BTEC for details. That could have been GREAT. #asechat

EllieERussell Feb 15 @ 3:46 PM EST

#asechat Our year nine enjoyed the practical action plastics challenge last summer term. Great ideas! https://t.co/Nsyhwh3k0c

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:10 PM EST

But I think of creativity in science more as pupils finding creative solutions to a problem using science skills and knowledge #asechat

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:46 PM EST

@lindsayhether #asechat @Rick_Halls lab13can do this

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:47 PM EST

@JulieBrown01 @BritSciAssoc @CRESTAwards they are really good. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:47 PM EST

@ljrn42 @margaretflem @hrogerson @JulieBrown01 Try this too https://t.co/cO4WVwyeHK #Jamesphipps #asechat

EllieERussell Feb 15 @ 3:48 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat. Too much curriculum change to focus on now! What we DO manage at our place is some more creative projects in June😉

ViciaScience Feb 15 @ 3:50 PM EST

@EllieERussell Agreed - no space for creative teaching in times of curriculum turmoil, so need to get stability first #ASEChat

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:50 PM EST

@lindsayhether #asechat here is the link to lab13http://www.ignitefutures.org.uk/ignition/lab-13/launch-day-first-lab-13/

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:50 PM EST

@EllieERussell @ViciaScience #asechat 'creative or imaginative' projects OR is there a difference

edubabbIe Feb 15 @ 3:51 PM EST

Having noted an increasingly specialized disciplines and gave meaning to culturally powerful pedagogies. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:51 PM EST

Now that is a hard question…eeeeek! #asechat https://t.co/IsJg8LyqtZ

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:50 PM EST

@EllieERussell @ViciaScience #asechat 'creative or imaginative' projects OR is there a difference

JulieBrown01 Feb 15 @ 3:52 PM EST

What about @theASE updates? ones we wrote jointly with them are really popular https://t.co/4l0r0HHf2J ( may be an s at end!) #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:52 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @EllieERussell @ViciaScience #asechat hard or creative or challenging?

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:52 PM EST

What is creativity in science? How do we teach it? #ASEChat https://t.co/KAx01eUwMK

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:44 PM EST

I think it is creativity where you are asking students to link lots of their ideas into a bit picture to understand a concept. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:53 PM EST

6 TED talks about creativity (and yes the @kenrobinson is there https://t.co/ltu7lP63rc #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:54 PM EST

When I teach kinetic theory to Y13 you can see the creativity JCM needed to come up with the maths. (I think) #asechat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:55 PM EST

Definitely creativity in Rutherford's experiment that Marsden and Geiger did to discover the nucleus and explain the results. #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:55 PM EST

What is the role of kids' dialogue with each other in teaching for scientific creativity? #ASEchat

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:55 PM EST

@JulieBrown01 @theASE just looking for the upd8 materials, but the site seems to be gone. ;-( #asechat

ljrn42 Feb 15 @ 3:56 PM EST

@hrogerson so many good stories in dev of sci it's a shame they aren't highlighted more #asechat

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:56 PM EST

BTW, before people sign out of #ASEChat, we have a live survey for a research project into teacher's views on creativity and science 1/1

stevethedoc1 Feb 15 @ 3:56 PM EST

@lindsayhether #asechat 'critical, challenging, supportive, ....'

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:56 PM EST

Teaching students to be creative in science is a luxury, not the default T & L strategy #asechat https://t.co/YdRLGQ4pvT

EllieERussell Feb 15 @ 3:48 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat. Too much curriculum change to focus on now! What we DO manage at our place is some more creative projects in June😉

lindsayhether Feb 15 @ 3:57 PM EST

Survey link is https://t.co/wevI1oBGAs would love people to take part! Should take max 20 mins. #ASEchat

margaretflem Feb 15 @ 3:57 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @NeedhamL56 @EllieERussell @ViciaScience #asechat a practical way to link music festivals and physics https://t.co/PUe8K8m6am

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:57 PM EST

https://t.co/SwgAK5JLSE << love the engage resources, adding a context can make students' thinking more creative. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 15 @ 3:58 PM EST

@hrogerson @JulieBrown01 @theASE lots f similar stuff now appearing in the Engage curriculum for @AQA KS3 syllabus and KS4 #asechat #upd8

hrogerson Feb 15 @ 3:59 PM EST

LOVED the segue scheme of work, e.g. allowing pupils to be creative with the knowledge they acquired in lessons (write film scrips) #asechat