#mdeschat Archive

A weekly chat focusing primarily on educational issues relevant to Elementary School educators based in Maryland.

Thursday May 24, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #mdeschat. Please tell us who you are and your favorite “pastime”. Don't forget to use the #mdeschat.
  • positive_arc May 24 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Good evening, sir @WalterReap 4th Grade teacher FCPS My favorite past time is seeking out the positive in every moment! #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Walter. principal and I love to read. #mdeschat
  • DeniseFaidley May 24 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Denise, AP in Glen Burnie. This time of yr~ fav pastime 🏊 #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Positive energy can be inspiring! Find it harness it and grow! #mdeschat
    In reply to @positive_arc
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Welcome, Denise. I can't swim, but if I could I would "doggy paddle" so I did not get my hair wet. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • Dale_Chu May 24 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @WalterReap leading a chat on passing vs. excelling. Follow along at #mdeschat! @mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Thank you for joining tonight. We are using the Q1/A1 format as we share. Please use the hashtag and be prepared for the Bellringer in a minute. #mdeschat #letslearn
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Activator: Please explain the difference between passing and excelling in school and whether schooling encourages students to pass or excel? #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Passing requires the demonstration of skills to meet the criteria for success whereas excelling means a student as demonstrated learning that surpasses the requirement. Schools encourage students to pass or meet the minimum requirement communicated by grades or a scale.#mdeschat
  • DeniseFaidley May 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1. Passing is achieving at the basement (bare minimum), and excelling is at or above the ceiling #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Join Mdeschat NOW for a share your knowledge about passing and excelling in schools. #mdeschat
  • DeniseFaidley May 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1 contin. Schools traditionally focus on meeting the standard, which is basement level achievement #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Does the bare minimum imply the degree of effort extended? #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Meeting the standard...we are going to talk standards. Great point. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Student complain about their workload when there is not a clear understanding of the purpose of the activity and thus shapes their effort/attempt at passing. #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Q1: If passing is "bare minimum" how can schools help students excel or think deeply expending more of an effort to achieve outcomes? #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    The goal is critical as is the “success criteria “ in a learning sequence. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • jazzmeister2013 May 24 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A1- Growth mindset. No time to get stagnant. Achieve and then push higher. Always room to grow. #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    #mdeschat
    • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:25 PM EDT
      A1: Help frame learning by establising a meaningful context with some predictability and challenges requiring Ss to build on requisite skills. mdeschat
  • jazzmeister2013 May 24 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Hey everyone! Greg, K, #TeamFelegy. Jumping in after a wonderful dance recital at a local middle school. Hope all are well. #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    The right mindset is critical! Thank you for the reminder Greg. How do you assess and develop a growthmindset in students encourage them to excel? #mdeschat
    In reply to @jazzmeister2013
  • DeniseFaidley May 24 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A1. Helping Ss meet standards requires scaffolding, posing questions where Ss have to think critically... as well as engaging, relevant instruction #mdeschat
  • jazzmeister2013 May 24 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Make it a part of the classroom lexicon. Peers motivating peers, T and S motivating one another. Using growth language. Allow for goal setting, reflection, celebration, and next steps. No time to put the car in park. #mdeschat
    In reply to @WalterReap
  • DeniseFaidley May 24 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A1b. Deep thinking not always synonymous for meeting standards. Many have abilities cognitiveky yet lack access pr specialized insyruction to bridge the gap #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Q2: Please tell whether you believe Ss strive to pass or excel and why? #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Great points Denise. In your example who is doing to work Ss or Ts? #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Goal setting is a powerful tool in classrooms! #mdeschat
    In reply to @jazzmeister2013
  • jazzmeister2013 May 24 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Pass vs. excel is a similar comparison to manage vs. lead. To manage is to maintain. To lead is to advance. To pass is to do enough to get by. To excel is to exceed expectations, to go above and beyond. #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Yes!!! Ss have cognitive abilities not always captured in the learning sequence or assessment and often fail as a result of inadequate conditions beyond their control. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • jazzmeister2013 May 24 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    If growth mindset is evident, Ss strive to excel, because they understand that point B isn't the final destination on the learning journey. There's always more to learn. #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A2: Students who understand the value of performing to the best of their ability are willing to put forth the extra effort to pass, but excelling requires Ss to look beyond the learning activity and into the future. #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Knowing the standards, the criteria for success, and feedback to move learning/thinking to the next level. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    As I read your response, I thought about modeling and how Ts and Ss can guide and demonstrate the progression. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • DeniseFaidley May 24 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A2. Most Ss strive to pass. There are some driven to excel. Sometimes harder to see in primary grades and is more prevalent as Ss get older andctake ownership of their education #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Q3: Which are most important in schools? #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Ownership is critical and a key for Ss to develop self-directedness needed to excel in school. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    We definitely needed this reminder! #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Imagine the world if we were not allowed/provided opportunities to practice and develop skills. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I vote skills too! #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q4 coming up and we are takling skills...#mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Q4: What skills could schools use to prepare students to “stand up” to standardized tests? #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A4: Teach Ss the format of summative assessments; build assessment literacy by sharing score reports and how the assessment data will be used for instruction and to determine instructional needs. #mdeschat
  • BonnieRaz May 24 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Hi #mdeschat! Having a crazy week and busy evening! Wishing everyone a restful long weekend!
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Sometimes we “release” Ss before modeling and Ss suffer cognitive atrophy; hand raised waiting to be saved. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • DeniseFaidley May 24 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A4. Ss need to learn analysis (including critical rdg), discrimination (better vs best), justification/ explanation to "stand up" to standardized tests #mdeschat
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Crazy and busy; the life of an educator. Wishing you wellness and balance. #mdeschat
    In reply to @BonnieRaz
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Great points Denise. If standardized tests open doors/opportunities, we must embed peserverance and even teach the format of the tests for pacing. #mdeschat
    In reply to @DeniseFaidley
  • WalterReap - Moderator May 24 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A4: Evidence-based reading on the new SAT is a critical skill. #mdeschat