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Monday May 1, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
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May 1 @ 8:00 PM EDT
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Good evening and welcome to
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. Tonight we're talking about Grading Practices.
rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:02 PM EDT
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hello everyone, Joel Brown Math teacher ready to see other prospectives on grading policies.
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May 1 @ 8:05 PM EDT
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Thanks for joining. Looks like a little bit of a slow start but we'll build momentum
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1: What are grades designed to measure?
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hello everyone Joel Brown Math teacher
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hi all. Tom Panarese, in Charlottesville. HS English teacher in Greene County.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:07 PM EDT
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Grades are designed exhibit what students have learned Les and mastered
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jcbjr
May 1 @ 8:07 PM EDT
John Bennett, Emeritus Engineering; Midlothian, Virginia.
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ErinWest_ITRT
May 1 @ 8:08 PM EDT
It's was a dark and stormy night... Erin ITRT popping in to
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Ideally grades should measure levels of proficiency/mastery of content/skills
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JohnWink90
May 1 @ 8:08 PM EDT
If grading stifles the desire to learn, you have the wrong grading practice.
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:09 PM EDT
They could also measure progress toward an established goal.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Good to have you with us
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May 1 @ 8:10 PM EDT
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9 Points Professors Look for in a Term Paper
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:10 PM EDT
So true! We'll talk more about this with a later question.
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JohnWink90
May 1 @ 8:08 PM EDT
If grading stifles the desire to learn, you have the wrong grading practice.
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ErinWest_ITRT
May 1 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 grading measures mastery of topic. (Final grades should never be a surprise if feedback is given throughout the unit of study)
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Definitely something to aim for. Can be very difficult to do in some cases.
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:09 PM EDT
They could also measure progress toward an established goal.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: What type of grading system do you use? How did you come up with your grading system?
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jcbjr
May 1 @ 8:13 PM EDT
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A1: To me, I'm not a fan these days of grades at all. Students seek better numbers, not caring what they need to do to learn more.
rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1: What are grades designed to measure?
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:13 PM EDT
True. But worth trying on a small scale if you haven't done it before
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:14 PM EDT
I'm on a total points grading system, which is what everyone in my school is using.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Interesting. Is this a mandatory policy? Why was a point system decided on?
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May 1 @ 8:15 PM EDT
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Tips for Learning Mathematics to Students
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ErinWest_ITRT
May 1 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 no longer in classroom -working w/ admin &Ts on standards based rubrics k-5. district mandate coming but these Ts ahead of curve.
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Yes, although we can weigh assignments within the total points, so there's some flexibility
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2. I have used two main categories Assessment and Application
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A blog I wrote on my efforts How to Really Use Data with Students
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Some believe Ss would purposely bomb pretest to show progress
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Does application refer to things like projects?
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jcbjr
May 1 @ 8:17 PM EDT
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A2: If were in classroom, I'd have Ss journal their learning efforts w/ T feedback & with T doing course grade after T-A discussion.
rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: What type of grading system do you use? How did you come up with your grading system?
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Never had that long of a con. I have had the lazy "This pretest doesn't 'count' so I'll blow it off" thing happen.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:20 PM EDT
We'll move through the questions quickly tonight. Q3 coming up...Interesting perspectives on Grading
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Q3: How do you grade work that isn’t completed? Or is late? Or isn’t turned in?
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Inc as is w/chance to redo/finish; late w/slight deduction; not in = 0
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3. I have stopped using zeros and students have been graded on what I have received. What is not turned in is recorded.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: For most of my teaching career I gave 0's. Realized that wasn't working, went to NY=Not Yet or MI=Missing
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3. Missing assignments or practice opportunities missed are presented during parent conferences
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:25 PM EDT
And the student who consistently hands nothing in gets ...?
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Do you have a hard deadline for when those MI/NY become a number in the book? That's my conundrum with the no zero policy.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:26 PM EDT
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rggillespie
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May 1 @ 8:26 PM EDT
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Q4: How can we create a grading system that is fair to all students?
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4: This was one of my constant struggles: measuring student progress vs mastery of content
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4: I try to be clear with any criteria in rubrics, etc.
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May 1 @ 8:30 PM EDT
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Q5: Do you allow redos/retakes? If so, explain how you use them? If not, why?
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A4 that is a struggle because some students are hard workers but not great test takers and visa versa
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mrpanarese
May 1 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A5: One example -- Students can revise/rewrite essays/papers and resubmit for a higher grade
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jcbjr
May 1 @ 8:32 PM EDT
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A3: Not discreet assignments but continuous efforts to improve learning --> always incomplete --> feedback on effort that's shown.
rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Q3: How do you grade work that isn’t completed? Or is late? Or isn’t turned in?
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4. Being precise in grading practices and assignments assigned can help
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Yep! For that reason, I'd love to have 2 different grades Character and Content
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In reply to @Teach_Learn88
Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I completely agree!
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Alright, final question of the night coming up...
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jcbjr
May 1 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Checking out; on a different wavelength. Good night, Gracie!!!
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q6: Do grades encourage/discourage student perception of academic success?
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A5. Students have one time to retake assessments. They need to schedule time to come to tutoring and then they can take the retake.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Nice! Can all students retake? Even those who got a B but want an A?
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In reply to @Teach_Learn88
Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:37 PM EDT
yes it is up to them. They take control of their own grades.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A6: Some students are grade motivated (not learning motivated). Some who are learning motivated. The rest are discouraged by grades
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A6. I believe it is all in the way it is presented to the students. If they see it as room for growth compared to a isolated grade.
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wadewhitehead
May 1 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A6: Grades often do neither in the best teacher's classrooms, where students are motivated by more important influences
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Teach_Learn88
May 1 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I appreciate the chat and different perspectives on grading.
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