#K12talent Archive
#K12Talent chat is for K-12 HR professionals or any school leader interested in learning more about human capital leadership. Topics include: rewards/recognition, recruiting, hiring, interviewing, difficult employees.
Tuesday June 13, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
_AASPA_
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Jun 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Today we are talking hiring remorse and interviewing
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Don’t forget to respond to our Q's by using A: and
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!
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Q1. Let’s start off with introductions! Share your name, position, and location!
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Chris Wolk, k-4 principal/HR, Grayslake, IL
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1: Jon Bartelt, Supt., Bloomingdale SD 13, tweeting from the home office in Geneva, IL
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@ChrisWolk
- the honor is mine, you had the tweet of the week with Napoleon Dynamite.
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Home office, yeah me too.
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In reply to @jonbartelt
jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Sweet.
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In reply to @ChrisWolk
ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Sad thing is that's how I dance.
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In reply to @jonbartelt
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Great to have you tonight!
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In reply to @ChrisWolk
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us!
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In reply to @jonbartelt
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Q2. What are the first clues that you hired the wrong person for the job?
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: When they are more focused on salary and less on student growth after school has begun.
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: Depends on case. Most likely it begins with student relationships and how they treat students.
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2: Staff relationships and in ability to reflect comes in closely behind.
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Don't forget to add
#k12talent
. Good to see you.
In reply to @TamekaWB
jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2.2: The classroom where the door is closed not open is also a sign (not always a positive one) - are the desks in rows?
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q3. Was the reason for the bad hire skill-based, culture mismatch, criminal or other?
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A3: Most of mine have been cultural fit issues, thankfully no criminals - but if one comes in, best check with your attorney.
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A3: Yes...usually last minute hire and skill or relationship/culture issue.
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q4. How do you use pre-employment assessment tests during the interview process to ensure a better fit for the job?
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3. Jumping in late to the chat! Most bad hires have been culture mismatch.
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Glad you could make it!
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In reply to @KathleenKColgan
ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Better late than never. Good to see you
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In reply to @KathleenKColgan
jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A4:
@HUMANeX
has really helped identify those candidates where there are ?s vs. those that are destined for excellence.
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Yes sir. Sad I missed the conference but last day of school.
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In reply to @jonbartelt, @HUMANeX
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q5. Aside from skills, how can you determine in the interview if a candidate is a good fit for your organization’s culture?
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Q5 The sample lesson and doing group interviews are crucial for this in my district
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DarcyKriha
Jun 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Hiring mistakes -where to even begin? Thoroughly check references people ! ! Can't stress that enough.
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In reply to @jonbartelt
jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A5: Are they child centered in their responses? Do they make eye contact during the process (assertive, confident)?
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q6. What components of traditional interviewing are you revamping in your organization to reduce the number of bad hires?
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q6: Attempting to establish dist wide expectation, look fors, reference check process.
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A6: Using more phone screens to maximize time and to get other team members impressions B4 final candidate group made.
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A6: we finally have standard interview process/questions for all interviews...not ready to revamp yet!
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A6.2: Using exit interviews for the first time - getting great data!
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Like to pick your brain as you just went through it.
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In reply to @KathleenKColgan
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Love this! Great ideas
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In reply to @TamekaWB
DarcyKriha
Jun 13 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q5 is he/she passionate about something? anything counts. Finding joy in something and sharing it with others is critical.
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q5. Aside from skills, how can you determine in the interview if a candidate is a good fit for your organization’s culture?
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q7. How are you using technology to improve sourcing and interviews to reduce bad hires?
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Exit interviews are my current favorite thing!
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In reply to @jonbartelt
KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Any time! It's been quite a process but so worthwhile
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In reply to @ChrisWolk
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Have you checked out the exit interviews on
https://t.co/CE7GOZBvY4
? Always looking for more if you've found some that work
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In reply to @KathleenKColgan, @jonbartelt
jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A7: Not maximizing my tech resources in this area, but I am sure up for a good idea!
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A7: checking out my HR colleagues' twitter feeds for tips...
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I haven't, but I definitely will! Thanks!
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In reply to @_AASPA_, @jonbartelt
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:39 PM EDT
This is a great way to use tech and social!
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A7: checking out my HR colleagues' twitter feeds for tips...
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q8. How are you training hiring managers at your organization to be better at interviewing and selecting new hires?
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A7: Want to use
@FrontlineEdu
assessments on applitrack but as part of consortium it's not available.
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#moneyissues
ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A8: I'll let you know after tomorrow.
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
.
@FrontlineEdu
is great resource to use for hiring!
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In reply to @TamekaWB, @FrontlineEdu
jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A8: Bloomingdale is 6X trained in
@HUMANeX
so we are able to support each other in the candidate selection process.
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DarcyKriha
Jun 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes - exit interviews are a special kind of
#crucialconversation
that we all avoid but why not get to the heart of it?
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A6.2: Using exit interviews for the first time - getting great data!
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A8: By supporting them in following the process that has been established. The steps are important, not an attempt to control
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:43 PM EDT
You need to embrace feedback, no matter what it may be, in order to grow and improve as an organization.
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In reply to @DarcyKriha
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q9. Any final words of wisdom you’d like to provide on today’s topic of on hiring remorse?
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A9: Poor hires happen to everyone. Have a process to keep them at a minimum.
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jonbartelt
Jun 13 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A9: The emphasis of hiring right: do not settle! Spend your money in training your team rather than paying for it in the end.
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KathleenKColgan
Jun 13 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A9: Hire in haste, repent (or non-renew) in leisure 😉
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:47 PM EDT
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Great advice
@ChrisWolk
!
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ChrisWolk
Jun 13 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A9: Poor hires happen to everyone. Have a process to keep them at a minimum.
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_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Thank you
#K12Talent
chat participants – see you on the next
#Edchat
on June 27 / We will be talking more on hiring!
_AASPA_
- Moderator
Jun 13 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Thank you all for joining us tonight! Great
#K12Talent
chat 😃